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review: i just purchased. this is a review of the workbook mainly. i skimmed through the video, which was the other part of the basic wso download.

up front, i was expecting info from Rob re the market in terms of short stories vs. novellas/novels, as the stories are much easier and faster to write. did not see that.

ditto on pricing. nothing about pricing or any aspect of marketing Kindle books.

even a short two page pdf separate from the romance writing tips workbook by Rob on pricing and the market would have really added.

ok, on to the "workbook." big header and big letters and only 20 pages, but... Lina T does absolutely deliver the goods in terms of how to prepare the characters, the plot, how to think about this from the beginning. she provides a plot formula that is absolutely dynamite, and i can tell, as one writer to another, that she knows her stuff.

the video is an amplification of the workbook. apparently the workbook is exactly that -- you use it by filling out the "blanks" so it is a "cheat sheet" in the best sense of the word. the video is excellent from a writer pov, goes into much more depth in terms of character development and plot design than a certain other wso re fiction kindle. so for me, an excellent value all around.

perhaps outsourcing is addressed by Rob at some point, but my reaction is that this wso still has considerable value even for the non-writing Kindle marketer for outsourcing to fiction writers eager to write romance, since the workbook tells all you need for that (HINT... HINT...)!

speaking as a writer who may outsource this to fiction writers, or as one who will do his own writing (when i find the time), i can tell you this: the workbook gives you all the essentials to plot out a successful romance genre short story or novel.

with the video, you will know enough to become some kind of expert, since this is the "street smart" romance writer secrets that only somebody who has been there and did it, all the hard work, can teach. its hard to find this really practical stuff at any price (trust me, ive looked). writer courses and retreats cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, youre getting this for proverbial peanuts.

that said, probably best to start with the short stories, sell them as singles, then bundle 3 to 5 of them for a discount, then go to novellas (short novels) if it pays off -- and write a series. these readers love to gobble up a series of books about the same heroine etc.
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Hi Rob,

I just bought your WSO, downloaded everything, went through the video and read the workbook all the way through - fascinating.

Here is an excerpt of the review that goes out to my subscribers:

Overall rating:
This is an excellent WSO. You are going to learn how to write a romance story that you can publish on the Kindle. It is shown step-by-step so that even I can do it (and I have never even attempted to write a love story).

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Just got done going over the material...good stuff...

I am sure people will get a lot out of it and am positive that it will help people be able to write romance books a lot easier and faster...

Recommending this to my list...

Cheers,
Sam

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Thank you for your inquiry. If you follow my work on WF, you may know that I am a coder and designer by trade and that has been my career focus over the last 15 years (check out my design portfolio at http://www.bluelotusprod.com/portfolio/ ). However I have many talents that I have explored within that time and prior to that time (check out my life portfolio at Lina Trivedi - Creative and Professional Portfolio for a snap shot of some of my life experiences up to about 4 years ago when I stopped updating that site, if you are really interested in things I have done and where I have been acclaimed as an author, and awards and media recognition I have received for my writing).

If you research my work, you may see that I have been a columnist for a newspaper that has a readership of 250,000 people for nearly 10 years. Through this I have published many non-fiction works and these novels that I wrote over 10 years ago have social messages that conflict with my non-fiction writing, therefore, it does not make sense for me to publish it. I could publish under a pen-name, however I am very passionate about my non-fiction topics and subject matter and making a few extra bucks on Kindle to project social messages that I just do not believe in any longer just does not make sense when you see the full picture. As any author can attest to, I have grown as a person since decades ago when I wrote my love stories and how I see love today is different than how I saw love in 1999. If I were to critique the book that I wrote in the paper I write for, I would rip my books to shreads because I am essentially degrading my culture in my plot.

Does that diminish the value of my writing? No. In fact, you probably fall within the demographic of people that loved my novels in my market tests. Unfortunately, I was not trying to appeal to that demographic.



I am only attempting to share my knowledge as a writer and how I produce my fiction work. I apologize if you felt that this product was promising you the world of Kindle on a platter - that was not my intent. I would be the FIRST person to tell anyone that any success is hard work. I have word hard for every piece of success I enjoy in my life and for every success, I have experienced about 100 failures. I would never make those sorts of promises and I apologize if you interpreted otherwise. If you were our customer, I would offer you a refund, however our records show that you never bought our product, so all I can do is say I am sorry if you feel misled.



Barry - as I indicated in my previous post, please feel free to PM me your address and I will send you a copy of one of my books, or if you would like to see non-romance examples, I have tons of that too - just PM me and I can point you to examples of my writing in a variety of niches.

Most likely my writing has touched you at some point in time - have you ever bought a Beanie Baby? I wrote all those poems published inside their tags between 1994 and 1997, during the height of the craze.



Thanks for your support, Sam!



Hi there - I understand - as I previously stated, my novels were written in 1998-2000 - I am happy to send you a hard copy in the mail - just PM me your address. Or, if you would like non-fiction examples of my writing, I can send you some links - just PM me ... also know that if you get our WSO and you find that my style of approaching plot development is not for you, you can always ask for a refund as well.



Thanks Mike - It never crossed my mind that some people may have ill intentions in wanting to dilute someone's reputation for some or other ill-purpose ... interesting! If I knew the reasons behind the seemingly ill-placed bashing, who knows, maybe I would be able to contribute to whatever the overall cause was, but you can only get so far with hate and spite. [shrugs]



There are loads of ideas, however the truth of the matter is that many people look for easy routes to publication because even tho there are endless ideas, writing 50,000+ words still takes work - even if you type 50 words a minute, you are still looking at about 17 hours of straight typing, not counting thinking about what you are writing. This is a legitimate concern for authors, in an effort to protect their work in such an open forum, however it actually was not my concern as I have indicated. Furthermore, this product is not promising sales or success - the sales copy merely points out the potential of the romance niche and how promising it is and how the odds of success are greater than other niches if you do the math, and this WSO offers the formula to produce a product so that you can try your efforts in this niche. I hope that clarifies our claims, as I am not trying to sell you a formula that will sell tons of copies despite your level of creativity and writing abilities. This WSO is intended for people who are intelligent writers that understand how to generally engage people that just may not be familiar with how to write romance.



That is right, as I previously indicated, my novels were written between 1998-2000 and I chose not to publish them beyond the run I did back then for the reasons I mentioned. Send me your address and I am happy to send you a copy of one of my books and I will even send you a Beanie Baby that has one of my penned poems in it, as well as some of my non-fiction work that broaches topics of social marginalization and race relations. My writing and my ability to break down a formula to produce high quality writing is not diminished by choices I have made on which readers I seek to appeal. Please consider comments from my readers of my non-fiction work:

: : : DESI generation NEXT : : :

All those newspapers cited, I actually have hard copies of and I am happy to scan them for you if you feel that is necessary.



Thank you so much for your in depth review. I really appreciate you acknowledging my efforts and finding my formulas helpful to you Thank you!



Brad, I completely agree with you - I do not want people who feel they can not put 2 sentences together think that my formula is going to lead them to publishing success, LOL One needs to come to the table with some level of skill and creativity, but if you have an ability to write and convey ideas and have a creative bone somewhere in your body, this WSO can help you make an interesting romance fiction story ...



Thanks again for recognizing my effort, buddhabux - I have to say that was a rather offensive comment, because my information is NOT a simple Google search! This area of my life, I consider myself an artist and as with any artist, it is a struggle to not take those sorts of attacks personally - thank you for your kind words But I guess I have haters in every other area of my life, so why should WF be any different?!

What should I post now, pictures of my books, or a video of me reading my book? LOL

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If you want a copy of this book, I have about 25 of them left - PM me your address - first come, first served, LOL If you actually listen to my first few pages, you will see that I actually follow my formula in my writing.

Thanks for all the support everyone and I appreciate your comments and I look forward to the Webinar where we can hash out some creative ideas together and help you guys make some great story lines

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OK Rob and Lina, bought it and the OTO! As a guy who writes Erotic Romance in partnership with my wife, and starting to see some success, this one seemed like a must buy! (aka Victoria Heywood on Kindle) Looking forward to going through the material, will come back with a review when I have been through the initial stuff.
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Hi Rob,

I just bought your WSO, downloaded everything, went through the video and read the workbook all the way through - fascinating.

Here is an excerpt of the review that goes out to my subscribers:

Overall rating:
This is an excellent WSO. You are going to learn how to write a romance story that you can publish on the Kindle. It is shown step-by-step so that even I can do it (and I have never even attempted to write a love story).

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Hi,

Is there a certain time period that affects sales bestor does it matter if the story is current day or historical?

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Is there a certain time period that affects sales bestor does it matter if the story is current day or historical?

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Any timeframe. In any setting - fantasy, sci-fi, historical/future.

Look at what is big right now - Twilight (Vampire romance...) is huge. And it's involving Vampires.

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What are some of the titles of Lina's published romances?
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Any timeframe. In any setting - fantasy, sci-fi, historical/future.

Look at what is big right now - Twilight (Vampire romance...) is huge. And it's involving Vampires.

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Okay great. You you mind telling what your OTO involves?

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What are some of the titles of Lina's published romances?
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She told me that she wrote "Debbie Does Dallas", but I don't believe her...
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Okay great. You you mind telling what your OTO involves?

Thanks much.

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It's an eclass. We are going to write (as best possible in an hour) a romance book taking the classes ideas. We'll also answer questions and give you more ideas.

It'll be recorded and available for playback later on.

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It's an eclass. We are going to write (as best possible in an hour) a romance book taking the classes ideas. We'll also answer questions and give you more ideas.

It'll be recorded and available for playback later on.

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Okay thanks. I'm in for the basic WSO.

I'll decide on the OTO after seeing your price to attend.

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Could we have some examples of Lina's books?
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Is anyone else having problems getting through to Paypal. I keep getting a "Error Detected" message from Paypal telling me to try again later. I would really like to purchase this now.
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Never mind! I'm in and I have purchased it. Thanks!
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My romance work is self published and the books I wrote were written in 1999, well before Kindle was even in existance, however a romance book is a romance book, regardless of the sales platform.

This WSO simply shows how to write a romance book. You can sell it on kindle, in stores, hard copies directly to your own readers, as e-books, or whatever you feel is the best medium for the resources you have available ... Rob and I chose Kindle as the suggested platform here because that's the easiest and quickest way to get published (and that goes for any niche).

If you are interested in my writing specifically, PM me your mailing address and I can send you a copy of one of my books. Good luck with your publishing efforts - you will find this formula helps you produce romance works easily and effeciently, and you will also find that it is a lot of fun to write
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Uh ... I do not think it was ME that told you that, I think you have me mixed up with ... someone else? LOL
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Got it Rob!

Very nice and relevant bonus items by the way.

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Lina,
I bought the package primarily to help my writers since I'm a book publisher--with more than 100 titles--and a published novelist. And also, having run a university graduate writing program, I can assure you that it's more than "a romance book is a romance book," when it comes to guiding a writer to publishable status. So that's why I wondered why the expert we are listening to (I bought the webinar also) didn't list her published works.

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Just got done going over the material...good stuff...

I am sure people will get a lot out of it and am positive that it will help people be able to write romance books a lot easier and faster...

Recommending this to my list...

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Just got done going over the material...good stuff...

I am sure people will get a lot out of it and am positive that it will help people be able to write romance books a lot easier and faster...

Recommending this to my list...

Cheers,
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Thanks Sam!

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Sounds pretty good but wouldn't mind reading a response from you in regards to post #17 & 18 first...
Just want to make sure this is right for me.
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PS. The only reason I'm responding here is because you did and I don't know what your agenda is but why should they have to reveal their Titles? So someone can go copy them?
Why would they copy them if this WSO does what it says? There are loads of story ideas for romance novels, so I think your 'excuse' doesn't really hold water.

I too am concerned that despite all the claims of this WSO, one of the authors doesn't seem willing to provide evidence that they 'walk the talk'.

Why should we believe we can "set our kindle sales on fire" if the authors fail to prove that they are doing it themselves?

This looks, on the face of it, a great WSO. I just want some evidence that the authors can stand by their claims.
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as a writer of both fiction and non-fiction AND a Kindle publisher, i can tell you that the market on Amazon is gobbling everything up in this niche. it doesnt matter if you are the best romance writer in the world or not. it is more about trends.

the real question you should be asking is whether or not Lina T can TEACH writing. and altho i dont know her, i can tell that she can. plus with Rob involved, you know its real, okay?

so if you want to be in this hot K niche fine, or not, fine. but a good fiction teacher can help enormously, because writing even mediocre fiction -- still quite salable as Kindle -- is not as easy as it looks!
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review: i just purchased. this is a review of the workbook mainly. i skimmed through the video, which was the other part of the basic wso download.

up front, i was expecting info from Rob re the market in terms of short stories vs. novellas/novels, as the stories are much easier and faster to write. did not see that.

ditto on pricing. nothing about pricing or any aspect of marketing Kindle books.

even a short two page pdf separate from the romance writing tips workbook by Rob on pricing and the market would have really added.

ok, on to the "workbook." big header and big letters and only 20 pages, but... Lina T does absolutely deliver the goods in terms of how to prepare the characters, the plot, how to think about this from the beginning. she provides a plot formula that is absolutely dynamite, and i can tell, as one writer to another, that she knows her stuff.

the video is an amplification of the workbook. apparently the workbook is exactly that -- you use it by filling out the "blanks" so it is a "cheat sheet" in the best sense of the word. the video is excellent from a writer pov, goes into much more depth in terms of character development and plot design than a certain other wso re fiction kindle. so for me, an excellent value all around.

perhaps outsourcing is addressed by Rob at some point, but my reaction is that this wso still has considerable value even for the non-writing Kindle marketer for outsourcing to fiction writers eager to write romance, since the workbook tells all you need for that (HINT... HINT...)!

speaking as a writer who may outsource this to fiction writers, or as one who will do his own writing (when i find the time), i can tell you this: the workbook gives you all the essentials to plot out a successful romance genre short story or novel.

with the video, you will know enough to become some kind of expert, since this is the "street smart" romance writer secrets that only somebody who has been there and did it, all the hard work, can teach. its hard to find this really practical stuff at any price (trust me, ive looked). writer courses and retreats cost hundreds or thousands of dollars, youre getting this for proverbial peanuts.

that said, probably best to start with the short stories, sell them as singles, then bundle 3 to 5 of them for a discount, then go to novellas (short novels) if it pays off -- and write a series. these readers love to gobble up a series of books about the same heroine etc.

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review: i just purchaed. this is a review of the workbook only. i have not watched the video, which was the other part of the basic wso download.

up front, i was expecting info from Rob re the market in terms of short stories vs. novellas/novels, as the stories are much easier and faster to write. did not see that.

ditto on pricing. nothing about pricing or any aspect of marketing Kindle books.

even if it is in the video i have not watched, i would much prefer that to be in a pdf, even a short two page one separate from the romance writing tips workbook.

ok, on to the "workbook." big header and big letters and only 20 pages, but... Lina T does absolutely deliver the good in terms of how to prepare the characters, the plot, how to think about this from the beginning. she provides a plot formula that is absolutely dynamite, and i can tell, as one writer to another, that she knows her stuff.

perhaps outsourcing is addressed by Rob at some point, but my reaction is that this wso still has considerable value even for the non-writing Kindle marketer for outsourcing to fiction writers eager to write romance, since the workbook tells all you need for that.

speaking as a writer who may outsource this to fiction writers, or as one who will do his own writing (when i find the time), i can tell you this: the workbook gives you all the essentials to plot out a successful romance genre short story or novel. probably best to start with the short stories.
Hey, thanks for your review and suggestions.

I actually do have an outsourcing WSO about Kindle (which is why it wasn't included).

However, I'm going to be adding to it, so you had better wait to grab it at that time.

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Hey Rob,

i amended my review since i felt bad about reviewing without looking at the video. so the review got even better... take care, david
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Sounds pretty good but wouldn't mind reading a response from you in regards to post #17 & 18 first...
Just want to make sure this is right for me.
Hey buddy...I got this earlier...

To be honest, you should be skeptical of any income proof or whatever anyone would ever give you.

Here's why (good lesson from 4 years of marketing)

1. 99.9% of income proof is out of context b/c people comingle their businesses through one paypal account.

2. No way to prove what outside factors they have with income proof

(i.e. facebook fan page product saying they make tons of moeny but not stating that they buy 10-20 fiver gigs to get it going to income, etc)

3. Most products don't require income proof to be valuable. It's usually the lowest form of proof b/c you should care more about the teaching style of the vendors (and their sales copy proves they can write entertainingly or this wouldn't be selling like it is).

Not trying to call you out just pointing out the fact that I personally know Rob and have bought MANY products from him over the last 2 years and he is an AMAZING product creator who way undercharges. He's also a really nice guy to boot.

Plus with a Lifetime guarantee on this product you truly have nothing to lose if the product sucks in your opinion (which it doesn't...none of his stuff ever does).

Please dont' be offended by this...but as a fellow product creator who DESPISES income proof due to reasons stated above just wanted to share another perspective.

Have a great day!

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Agree. This stuff can be found on any search engine under How To Write a Romance novel. Newbies be aware there are a lot of affiliate marketers promoting this - Think About It.
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i am just a buyer of this wso, i am not pimping for Rob or anybody else. i bought this wso and i 100% DISAGREE. the plot and character development provided by Lina T is not common knowledge and you will not get it by googling how to write a romance novel.

plus i have personally read several leading books on that same subject as a fiction writer and i can tell you from reading these books this information is NOT in there. i find it fascinating that this wso thread has produced such controversy.

which is it -- the love? -- the sex? -- the money? oh, i think thats the beginning of a romance novel... see ya later... back to my writing!
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So, you are offering to teach people how to "churn out" romance novels ... If your romance work was self-published, why haven't you moved it to the Kindle?
Thank you for your inquiry. If you follow my work on WF, you may know that I am a coder and designer by trade and that has been my career focus over the last 15 years (check out my design portfolio at http://www.bluelotusprod.com/portfolio/ ). However I have many talents that I have explored within that time and prior to that time (check out my life portfolio at Lina Trivedi - Creative and Professional Portfolio for a snap shot of some of my life experiences up to about 4 years ago when I stopped updating that site, if you are really interested in things I have done and where I have been acclaimed as an author, and awards and media recognition I have received for my writing).

If you research my work, you may see that I have been a columnist for a newspaper that has a readership of 250,000 people for nearly 10 years. Through this I have published many non-fiction works and these novels that I wrote over 10 years ago have social messages that conflict with my non-fiction writing, therefore, it does not make sense for me to publish it. I could publish under a pen-name, however I am very passionate about my non-fiction topics and subject matter and making a few extra bucks on Kindle to project social messages that I just do not believe in any longer just does not make sense when you see the full picture. As any author can attest to, I have grown as a person since decades ago when I wrote my love stories and how I see love today is different than how I saw love in 1999. If I were to critique the book that I wrote in the paper I write for, I would rip my books to shreads because I am essentially degrading my culture in my plot.

Does that diminish the value of my writing? No. In fact, you probably fall within the demographic of people that loved my novels in my market tests. Unfortunately, I was not trying to appeal to that demographic.

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It sure sounds like the WSO is promising more than "simply how to write a romance book." So, which is it?
I am only attempting to share my knowledge as a writer and how I produce my fiction work. I apologize if you felt that this product was promising you the world of Kindle on a platter - that was not my intent. I would be the FIRST person to tell anyone that any success is hard work. I have worked hard for every piece of success I enjoy in my life and for every success, I have experienced about 100 failures. I would never make those sorts of promises and I apologize if you interpreted otherwise. If you were our customer, I would offer you a refund, however our records show that you never bought our product, so all I can do is say I am sorry if you feel misled.

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I bought the package primarily to help my writers since I'm a book publisher--with more than 100 titles--and a published novelist. And also, having run a university graduate writing program, I can assure you that it's more than "a romance book is a romance book," when it comes to guiding a writer to publishable status. So that's why I wondered why the expert we are listening to (I bought the webinar also) didn't list her published works.
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Barry - as I indicated in my previous post, please feel free to PM me your address and I will send you a copy of one of my books, or if you would like to see non-romance examples, I have tons of that too - just PM me and I can point you to examples of my writing in a variety of niches.

Most likely my writing has touched you at some point in time - have you ever bought a Beanie Baby? I wrote all those poems published inside their tags between 1994 and 1997, during the height of the craze.

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Sounds pretty good but wouldn't mind reading a response from you in regards to post #17 & 18 first...
Just want to make sure this is right for me.
Hi there - I understand - as I previously stated, my novels were written in 1998-2000 - I am happy to send you a hard copy in the mail - just PM me your address. Or, if you would like non-fiction examples of my writing, I can send you some links - just PM me ... also know that if you get our WSO and you find that my style of approaching plot development is not for you, you can always ask for a refund as well.

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Hey Dan, this little rant of yours is more than just a question that could have been asked in a PM as not to break the WSO rules but then again I looked at your WSO on product creation and realized there may be more to this story.
Thanks Mike - It never crossed my mind that some people may have ill intentions in wanting to dilute someone's reputation for some or other ill-purpose ... interesting! If I knew the reasons behind the seemingly ill-placed bashing, who knows, maybe I would be able to contribute to whatever the overall cause was, but you can only get so far with hate and spite. [shrugs]

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Why would they copy them if this WSO does what it says? There are loads of story ideas for romance novels, so I think your 'excuse' doesn't really hold water. This looks, on the face of it, a great WSO. I just want some evidence that the authors can stand by their claims.
There are loads of ideas, however the truth of the matter is that many people look for easy routes to publication because even tho there are endless ideas, writing 50,000+ words still takes work - even if you type 50 words a minute, you are still looking at about 17 hours of straight typing, not counting thinking about what you are writing. This is a legitimate concern for authors, in an effort to protect their work in such an open forum, however it actually was not my concern as I have indicated. Furthermore, this product is not promising sales or success - the sales copy merely points out the potential of the romance niche and how promising it is and how the odds of success are greater than other niches if you do the math, and this WSO offers the formula to produce a product so that you can try your efforts in this niche. I hope that clarifies our claims, as I am not trying to sell you a formula that will sell tons of copies despite your level of creativity and writing abilities. This WSO is intended for people who are intelligent writers that understand how to generally engage people that just may not be familiar with how to write romance.

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I have purchased products on writing and book marketing, and I have yet to come across fiction authors that don't want to publicly reveal what books they've written.
That is right, as I previously indicated, my novels were written between 1998-2000 and I chose not to publish them beyond the run I did back then for the reasons I mentioned. Send me your address and I am happy to send you a copy of one of my books and I will even send you a Beanie Baby that has one of my penned poems in it, as well as some of my non-fiction work that broaches topics of social marginalization and race relations. My writing and my ability to break down a formula to produce high quality writing is not diminished by choices I have made on which readers I seek to appeal. Please consider comments from my readers of my non-fiction work:

http://www.desigenerationnext.com/comments/

All those newspapers cited, I actually have hard copies of and I am happy to scan them for you if you feel that is necessary.

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ok, on to the "workbook." big header and big letters and only 20 pages, but... Lina T does absolutely deliver the goods in terms of how to prepare the characters, the plot, how to think about this from the beginning. she provides a plot formula that is absolutely dynamite, and i can tell, as one writer to another, that she knows her stuff.
Thank you so much for your in depth review. I really appreciate you acknowledging my efforts and finding my formulas helpful to you Thank you!

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To be honest, you should be skeptical of any income proof or whatever anyone would ever give you.
Brad, I completely agree with you - I do not want people who feel they can not put 2 sentences together think that my formula is going to lead them to publishing success, LOL One needs to come to the table with some level of skill and creativity, but if you have an ability to write and convey ideas and have a creative bone somewhere in your body, this WSO can help you make an interesting romance fiction story ...

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i am just a buyer of this wso, i am not pimping for Rob or anybody else. i bought this wso and i 100% DISAGREE. the plot and character development provided by Lina T is not common knowledge and you will not get it by googling how to write a romance novel.
Thanks again for recognizing my effort, buddhabux - I have to say that was a rather offensive comment, because my information is NOT a simple Google search! This area of my life, I consider myself an artist and as with any artist, it is a struggle to not take those sorts of attacks personally - thank you for your kind words But I guess I have haters in every other area of my life, so why should WF be any different?!

What should I post now, pictures of my books, or a video of me reading my book? LOL


If you want a copy of this book, I have about 25 of them left - PM me your address - first come, first served, LOL If you actually listen to my first few pages, you will see that I actually follow my formula in my writing.

Thanks for all the support everyone and I appreciate your comments and I look forward to the Webinar where we can hash out some creative ideas together and help you guys make some great story lines

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Why would they copy them if this WSO does what it says? There are loads of story ideas for romance novels, so I think your 'excuse' doesn't really hold water.

I too am concerned that despite all the claims of this WSO, one of the authors doesn't seem willing to provide evidence that they 'walk the talk'.

Why should we believe we can "set our kindle sales on fire" if the authors fail to prove that they are doing it themselves?

This looks, on the face of it, a great WSO. I just want some evidence that the authors can stand by their claims.
I am one of the people who asked for titles. I didn't do it for 'evidence' that the system works. I merely wanted to have a look at Lina's style. My wife and I already have one Erotic Romance novel published via kindle under the pen name Victoria Heywood, with 3 more going up.

I bought the WSO yesterday and have already gone through the material once. This is a superb WSO, if your interested in the genre, buy it!
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Oh and by the way. A note to all the detractors and skeptics. Writing this stuff WELL is NOT easy. We know, we have need writing it for a long time without publishing. It is however a very lucrative market. But only something you should attempt if you 1) Enjoy writing fiction, 2) Are capable of writing at least the first 3 or 4 books yourself (And writing them well) so that your ghost writer can understand your style and writing voice.

If you are just looking at this as a pure money making exercise and your going to 'churn' out trash then you are wasting your time. If you are in the genre, or want to get into the genre, or your writing any kind of fiction for Kindle then buying a WSO like this and just getting 3 or 4 pointers will be worth its wait in gold.

As I have said previously in this thread, this WSO is excellent. Tyre kickers and non believers should maybe go back to their 3rd rate recipe books?
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"Can your formula be applied to erotica?" I have no inclination toward romance novels, but I have some experience in certain genres of erotica.
Hm. Possibly - romance/erotica can be closely related. If you put a plot in it, it can become slightly more than just erotica.

However, we didn't create the material with erotica in mind, so you may find some crossover that will help you, or not.

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Thanks Rob.
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I bought this earlier today.

First off, I want to say that I have quite a few non-fiction books on kindle and am doing quite well with them, so I really wasn't interested in the kindle aspect of this. I was more interested in the "how to write fiction" aspect and after Lina put up her video and explained more about her books, I felt like she might have some good advice.

Now, I consider myself to be a halfway decent writer - been doing articles, ebooks, reports etc… for years now. The problem is, when I try to write something that is fiction, I just sit and stare at a blank page. Its really quite different than writing non-fiction and, even though I have read a few books on writing fiction, it really isn't sinking in.

I've even read a few books on how to write fiction and I know there is a certain process and the steps you must go through but still I just can't seem to get going. I know what the steps are, but I have a hard time figuring out how to do them.

In Linas workbook, there are some really great examples of how to accomplish some of these steps. What I liked is that she gave a couple of examples for each step and that really seemed to help me a lot. The workbook has several ideas that you could probably put into practice right away to start to develop your book.

The video had some interesting ideas and parallels that they made between different movies and such that could be helpful with figuring out a plot but I think the workbook is what will help me the most.

I also think the webinar where they write a book in "real time" will be really helpful- thats actually why I bought this in the first place.

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Hi, Is there an OTO to this product? Thank you...
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I just bought this for my girlfriend. She read every post in this forum and is sooo excited to get started. She has wanted to be a writer since she was a teenager. Maybe this will be the start she needs to actually DO it!
I just wanted to thank you for offering this. I haven't seen this look on her face in quite a long time.
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Hello folks, I just bought this wso and I will come back and leave an honest opinion after reading the content.
About me: I've been a member of this forum for over a year, bought over 30 products and asked for a refund on 1.
The reason why I bought this is because I am working on a novel named "Thorns Of A Thief" which you can find by just googling.(Is there such a word?)
This book is about a character who is a victim of genocide who goes through different experiences in life.
My second book will be the second part of my first book and this is about my characters son and his love life hence the purpose of this wso.

As I indicated before, I will be back to leave an honest review.
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Just looked over the material or actually read it and watched the video. Here is my honest opinion:
It's guideline that can help a CREATIVE person write a good romance novel. You must have good content though.
She does put out good ideas that will help you develop your storyline and build your character.
I would strongly recommend this wso if you have a good story to tell.

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Hm. Possibly - romance/erotica can be closely related. If you put a plot in it, it can become slightly more than just erotica.

However, we didn't create the material with erotica in mind, so you may find some crossover that will help you, or not.

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Absolutely it can be applied to Erotica. Romantic Erotica that is. So long as you have a story line, this will work for you.
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Absolutely it can be applied to Erotica. Romantic Erotica that is. So long as you have a story line, this will work for you.
You answered that better than I. lol

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I just bought this WSO a couple of hours ago, because I saw one of its creators were Rob Howard, and because it's a very old dream of mine to write a novel.

I've written two short stories that have been published in two of the largest Danish magazines eons ago, but I've never figured out how to write a novel, even after exploring a lot of books about the topic.

This WSO does a great job of explaining the basics of how to write a story (shorter or longer), and lots of ideas popped up, while I was watching the video.

In the end of the movie, Lina says something about not putting too much pressure on ourselves, and I think that is one of my weak spots. I have too high ambitions. I want to write the perfect novel that becomes the best-seller above all best-sellers, praised by critics as well as by the readers. Or write no book at all. Ha!

You're right, Lina. That's not the way to go if you want to get published. I think I'll easy the pressure on myself by starting out with novels written under a pen name. And should one of them end up being the book that changed the world, I will leak the news to the press about who the real author is and ... Right! Enough dreaming ;-)

I might get the OTO, too. It looks interesting and useful.

Rob and Lina - this is good! Thank you Could I have a copy of the Mind Map you use in the video, please?

Oh, I almost forgot! The two surprise bonuses were really surprises and much appreciated! Thanks a lot!
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Just purchased this WSO. What's up with the video? I have to download a codec from GoTo Webinar to play it? Did that. It still doesn't play. I've purchased a lot of products over the years and this is the first one delivered this way. Strange way to deliver a product. I did submit a support ticket. Hope you can shed some light on this.
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Just purchased this WSO. What's up with the video? I have to download a codec from GoTo Webinar to play it? Did that. It still doesn't play. I've purchased a lot of products over the years and this is the first one delivered this way. Strange way to deliver a product. I did submit a support ticket. Hope you can shed some light on this.
Yes, it was the first time that happened to me, too, but I didn't think much about it. Just took it as a natural part of the flow, since the file was a Windows video file of a kind, and my Mac should use this codex to play it.

After I've installed the Flip For Mac (I think it was called - the file you received), I could play it with both QuickTime and Real Player. If you're on a Windows box, I guess it should play with the integrated Windows player as well.
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Hi Guys...... I purchased this product over 2 hours ago and STILL haven't recieved the download link and I havent been sent a receipt either, which usually happens when you buy any WSO and it ALWAYS contains a backup download link in case somwething went wrong during the transaction, as it DID today.

The purchase was for USD$8 .15 -- and my PayPal receipt states, -transaction ID :8B969311G574853M.

What actually happened was that following advice from PayPal that the transaction HAD indeed gone through I WAS actually taken to the normal download page - which stated ----- " waiting for PayPal to CONFIRM transaction, - with a countdown of 60 seconds, - at the conclusion of which it THEN stated, - "Confirmation has timed out " which was largely superflous information, as EVEN I - could see that - even "Blind Freddy could see that as well, -- then ALL activity simply CEASED !

Couldn't these transactions be made a bit more secure ? - I mean - after all -- Rocket science - It AINT - not THESE days anyway ! my past experience has been that WSO downloads are USUALLY instant.

I had the same thing happen purchasing a WSO just YESTERDAY - but thankfully the receipt showed up im my email inbox - complete with duplicate link, so I was at least able to access the product - about 10 minutes after I purchased it - Unfortunately NOT so today.

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Hi Guys...... I purchased this product over 2 hours ago and STILL haven't recieved the download link and I havent been sent a receipt either, which usually happens when you buy any WSO and it ALWAYS contains a backup download link in case somwething went wrong during the transaction, as it DID today.

The purchase was for USD$8 .15 -- and my PayPal receipt states, -transaction ID :8B969311G574853M.

What actually happened was that following advice from PayPal that the transaction HAD indeed gone through I WAS actually taken to the normal download page - which stated ----- " waiting for PayPal to CONFIRM transaction, - with a countdown of 60 seconds, - at the conclusion of which it THEN stated, - "Confirmation has timed out " which was largely superflous information, as EVEN I - could see that - even "Blind Freddy could see that as well, -- then ALL activity simply CEASED !

Couldn't these transactions be made a bit more secure ? - I mean - after all -- Rocket science - It AINT - not THESE days anyway ! my past experience has been that WSO downloads are USUALLY instant.

I had the same thing happen purchasing a WSO just YESTERDAY - but thankfully the receipt showed up im my email inbox - complete with duplicate link, so I was at least able to access the product - about 10 minutes after I purchased it - Unfortunately NOT so today.

peterinperth@bigpond.com

This is a process that has run effectively for years and tens of thousands of transactions by this seller and other sellers.

Two days ago, PayPal began having issues.

The issue is PayPal is not forwarding the API data accurately, thus breaking the payment process.

I am aware of dozens of sellers seeing the problem right now, and their Help Desks have been inundated with support requests as a result.

Everyone is being forced to manually process a large number of transactions. I am confident that Rob will get you taken care of as soon as he gets in his help desk software.
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Hi Guys...... I purchased this product over 2 hours ago and STILL haven't recieved the download link and I havent been sent a receipt either, which usually happens when you buy any WSO and it ALWAYS contains a backup download link in case somwething went wrong during the transaction, as it DID today.
PayPal has been having issues along with WSO Pro - if you open up a support ticket here:

Rob The Warrior Support Desk

And copy/paste your paypal receipt into the ticket, my staff will get you the download link quickly.

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Have done Rob ----- So PayPal strikes AGAIN Eh ?

Thanx very much !

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I wanted to come back and give a little update.

I went to the webinar that Lina and Rob had and it was a lot of fun and very informative. I was a bit intimidated though because so many people had some great ideas and I didn't have any. Apparently I am not very creative or imagnitive and I was beginning to wonder if I would have to give up on the idea of writing fiction.

But then this afternoon an idea popped into my head for a story so I forced myself to get "in the mode" and I sat down and fleshed out some of the characters and the plot for a romance novel according to Lina's formula. It was actually very easy and once I had an initial idea, the rest of the ideas started flowing out easily. I was pretty surprised at how quickly I came up with something - in about an hour I had a pretty good story figured out. I never could have done that without Lina's formula though and I think seeing it "in action" during the webinar really helped.

I've handed the characters and plot off to a ghostwriter and I should have my first romance story up on the kindle sometime next week.
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Hi I have been trying to purchase this product since yesterday. I sumitted a ticket and was told to use Paypal.(which is not accepting payments) or use a Credit Card. Is the Credit Card an option.

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I just bought this and it's brilliant. I wish I could quote from it, it's really making me laugh (because I keep having 'aha' moments).

I've written a fair bit of fiction and I've recently been writing in a certain romance subgenre, planning to start publishing on Kindle. This report crystallises the process and sets out easy steps where I always assumed I had to hope for flashes of inspiration. It makes it a lot easier for me to plan and also to figure out where I've gone wrong in the past.

It takes the stress out of the writing process, because if you follow this plan, you know that your story is not going to die on you on page 30. There are some great examples that you could easily use as-is. The advice is very specific to the romance genre and different from anything I've read in 'how to write' books.

Recommended for anybody who wants to write romance fiction or outsource/publish it. For the latter it will help you spot whether the story follows a pattern that will be popular.

It is quite short and simple but well worth the few dollars that it costs.
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