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I just check. He already removes his money back guaranteed from the salespage This guy is an asshole.
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| | #752 |
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| | #753 |
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We may as well conclude that this guy will use any excuses for not refunding our money despite stating a 90 days no question asked money back guarantee. He said he had never said that he would provide live links reports oh yea thats right. However he also said "This will take much longer and I would of had to charge a lot more money to do this. This was always the case as this isnt possible. No-one does this for that amount of money." This is funny as there are lots of other WSO under 30usd that offers live link reports.
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| | #755 |
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I think we may need to consult the lawyer. Does anyone here know the lawyer and be able to waive the consultation fee ? ![]() I'm sure there must be something we can do about this guy. |
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| | #757 |
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The guy thinks we can't chase him for the money because we are in the different side of the world. Nobody will pay a thousand for air ticket to go to Australia just for seeing him.
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i was thinking of going to a local police station, but didnt get a chance to do that last week. | |
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Now lets stretch our imagination to breaking point and suggest our con-man was genuine. His business has a host of guarantees including a refund policy. Now lets say his business genuinely ceases trading - he is in debt and has no assets. Where would that leave us as customers? In exactly the same position has we are in now with no chance of getting our money back. At best we would be creditors. But, and I think it is a big BUT, although we would be angry and disappointed about losing money we wouldn't be calling him a cheat. We would just have to put it down to experience and move on. As I said previously, I believe this guy is no idiot and he knows what he is doing. He may be a b*st*rd, a con-artist and a thief but he is no idiot. I think it would be extremely difficult to bring him to justice for his actions on this one WSO alone since he would deny any wrongdoing. He would state his business just didn't work out and that he was very sorry blah blah blah - which is what his emails seem to be saying. In other words, he is claiming he is a victim too and unless their was evidence to the contrary (i.e. intent to defraud at the outset) I believe the authorities would have to believe him too. However, if it was possible to gain evidence of similar scams that he has operated in the past where he has used similar techniques to con money out of the public then we may have a chance. But I think that would be expensive to prove. I like the idea of trying to find a lawyer who would be able to offer an initial consultation for free. Once we had a definitive answer about possible courses of legal action, perhaps we could band together as victims to persue this d*ckh**d. But it also brings me onto another question. Where was the offence committed? In Australia where we assume he lives, or in the USA where the WSO (and his business) is hosted. I'm sure the lawyers would fight that one out too. Or are their any mods on this thread that could answer this one?? Neill | |
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| | #760 |
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Don't worry this guy does not know what he is doing. The only reason he has came back and replied with emails is that he is worried about all the people putting in complaints to the relevant Authorities. We may have lost our money , but you can still get pay back by reporting him to the scam watch links and the tax man. There are strict laws in Australia when you are registered with an ABN business number, about how you conduct yourself in Business. He also never sent out any invoices showing if he is registered for GST, which a business must do when trading in Australia. You may not get your money back but report him to the links put up before, that is what this Benji is most worried about... they will bring him down. Keep all your emails that he may have sent us ,to show proof of his Scamming ways. |
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| | #761 |
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I paid through 'paymate' and have sent two email's requesting a refund and they haven't responded at all. Anyone else, actually got a refund here? |
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I appreciate your response on this one. I think I will just spend the next decade trying to figure it out on my own, as I fail to have much faith in most WSO's (sorry to those of you that do offer a great product, nothing personal, just beginning to get a nice chip on my shoulder from all the money wasted). So, I heard from ben/beau/trevor/douchebag.....whatever his name really is and basically it was an email stating what work he had completed. Not exactly the 'report' I had hoped for. I have also not heard back from paymate at all which really 5hit5 me. Anyway, this one has been one of the more frustrating lessons for me, but hopefully this will be the last time I get duped like this. Cheers | |
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| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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In case anyone who downloads it is wondering, it's a bitmap file. After unzipping, just add the .bmp extension. | |
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| | #767 |
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Unable to unzip since file name is too long. Can you rename it to shorter and attach again. Regards, Ramesh |
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Oh no I paid him on july 12th via paypal. I lost my hard earned $97 to this bull s**t scammer.
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| | #770 |
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I just found out about this. Another 97$ waisted! I am about to give up this affiliate stuff. Before this I spend $350 on a coming product launch which they cancelled too (Thanks to Rob Benwell scamartist)....Too much to handle |
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| | #771 |
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Mmmm great Idea, I should really stop doing affiliate marketing and focus on these scams. Pays way more |
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| | #772 |
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I wrote in to my credit card company requesting a charge back/ credit on this transaction and they reversed the transaction. So looks like i can get my money back. I reported this to them as a likely scam and they would chase it up. Never use your Paypal Balance to make any payments , i will always now use credit card payment as hopefully the credit card company can always reverse fraud transactions. |
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| | #773 |
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Hi Guys, I managed to get a full refund for $150USD. I was emailing him on his Gmail account. I basically just told him I would report him to the ATO because he did not provide an invoice and is unlikely to be reporting his income. I also quoted from the consumer protection in Australia that he violated terms and also his quotes from his original sales page with the money back guarantee. Hope it helps. |
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I think the lesson learned here is to never buy an SEO service unless its been around for a long time with good reviews. | |
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| greg Join Date: Dec 2010
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I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and stayed out of it, but now I see you are not working on the campaings anymore so would please like a refund. Paymate Transaction ID: 19012258624 This was for the 20keyword package |
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| Trying to make a living!! War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Traveling
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Elliot8, can you tell us which consumer protection in Australia clause that you quoted? I am going to email him.
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| | #781 |
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I wonder if the authorities are doing anything with this guy yet.
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| | #782 |
| Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2011
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Where is my refund? 1DX56490YW342483B
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| | #784 |
| Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I just got a full refund of $320 for 4 campaigns.
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| | #785 |
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| | #786 |
| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Ireland
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I also received a full refund $168 ten keyword package
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| | #787 |
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I sent him an email two days ago threatening ATO and Scamwatch. got my refund yesterday. |
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| | #788 |
| Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010
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never got mine.. paypal dispute went nowhere..
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| | #789 |
| Warrior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia
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| | #790 |
| Warrior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia
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I take back my earlier comments. I received a full refund.
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| | #792 |
| Warrior Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Australia
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I sent it to: seolinkshark@gmail.com |
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Thank you i will try that. | |
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| | #794 |
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I have also recieved a full refund- had to pay paypal fees on the $322 but that was okay after thinking my $$$ was gone.Good Luck on getting yours back.
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| | #795 |
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ok have emailed to him and hope to have luck in getting our money back
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| | #796 |
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I also received a full refund.
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| Trying to make a living!! War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Traveling
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Received a full refund.
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I too got refund. I paid thru regnow and opened a ticket for refund request and they reversed my transaction. Regards, Ramesh |
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| | #800 |
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I also got a refund from paypal, but still tossing up about going to his wedding anyway as its been booked.
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