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Old 06-12-2012, 08:11 PM   #1
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Hey I think that you need some reviews.....
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Definitely. I don't give out a bunch of review copies to get some yes men. You buy it then leave a review. For sure.
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Ok, I admit I'm interested. Oh so naughty
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Well just purchased this cant wait to see what this is like...
also why was i rejected as an affiliate like instant second i applied??
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James Think Outside The BOX Renouf has struck again...

Listen if you have never met James then you need to know this guy is so innovative that everytime I have a conversation with him I walk away pondering in amazement...

And here he goes and has done it again...BLOWN AWAY by this.

FULL Disclosure: This was not given to me as a review I actually invested in it.

Thanks For Revealing This James...I'll be using this in my business.

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also why was i rejected as an affiliate like instant second i applied??

My VA rejects affiliates that have applied for 4 or more offers without any sales. PM me if this is incorrect.
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James Think Outside The BOX Renouf has struck again...

Listen if you have never met James then you need to know this guy is so innovative that everytime I have a conversation with him I walk away pondering in amazement...

And here he goes and has done it again...BLOWN AWAY by this.

FULL Disclosure: This was not given to me as a review I actually invested in it.

Thanks For Revealing This James...I'll be using this in my business.

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Thanks a lot Anthony for everything. The kind words, the investment and the review. I feel like this product is going to polarize people and great to start off with an amazing review.
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Hey James, Blackhat...does that stand for Thieves?..I just thought they were creative and found loopholes...BUT maybe I was wrong...When people take your work, that has a price tag, and spread it around a community...isn't that like STEALING? Not sure how anyone makes any money if it's FREE, perhaps the Blackhatters, or men with ski masks have an explaination.. Just see nothing NOBLE about thieves or stealing...BUT who knows, Maybe I need to be enlightened by some WISE one...
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I definitely do not find black hatters noble. This product AND this thread is not a debate on the ethics and validity of this section of the IM community. This is about realizing this exists and how you can use this fact to your benefit. This is not about learning how to be a black hatter but how to take advantage of this niche.
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How much i have to invest in order to get $100 per day? also the time invest it to implement the strategies.... Also can you tell if you still use these techniques and you are making money, and also you can record a video logging to your account showing the earning proved....Sorry but we need to know if you are really making money from this not just making money ideas that can work...

Please let me know asap in order to buy this....
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How much i have to invest in order to get $100 per day? also the time invest it to implement the strategies.... Also can you tell if you still use these techniques and you are making money, and also you can record a video logging to your account showing the earning proved....Sorry but we need to know if you are really making money from this not just making money ideas that can work...

Please let me know asap in order to buy this....
Due to paypal I make no guarantees of your income. The course shows what i was doing LAST NIGHT.
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But how much you made last night....
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Not going to discuss that. Pm me for further communication.
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This is not only a really cool idea to release this information, BUT I actually have experience, and proof that you are right about this.. here's what happened.

I discovered that one of my products was on a black-hat site and a ton of people were downloading, and ripping me off. My assistant got angry and decided to throw up an opt-in form that "lead to nowhere" as people came in to steal the product. I don't remember the details of how she did that, but.. listen to this -

The list that I built of these black-hatters, with names such as "Ronald Reagan, and Mickey Mouse" actually became active members of my email list who responded to subsquent offers! How's that for ironic?

Great work James!
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James - Purchased earlier today and just finished ALL of the videos. Nice way to break them down into short videos to keep me from falling asleep. Excellent and informative videos! Like Anthony said, "outside of the box" thinking for sure. Good luck with this WSO!!
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This is not only a really cool idea to release this information, BUT I actually have experience, and proof that you are right about this.. here's what happened.

I discovered that one of my products was on a black-hat site and a ton of people were downloading, and ripping me off. My assistant got angry and decided to throw up an opt-in form that "lead to nowhere" as people came in to steal the product. I don't remember the details of how she did that, but.. listen to this -

The list that I built of these black-hatters, with names such as "Ronald Reagan, and Mickey Mouse" actually became active members of my email list who responded to subsquent offers! How's that for ironic?

Great work James!

Thanks todd but fyi to everyone you don't have to be a product creator to do this
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James - Purchased earlier today and just finished ALL of the videos. Nice way to break them down into short videos to keep me from falling asleep. Excellent and informative videos! Like Anthony said, "outside of the box" thinking for sure. Good luck with this WSO!!
Thanks so much !
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Love it!! I don't know where you come up with these profit pulling systems James but you have peaked my curiosity once again..lol.. Anything to profit from them is worth the effort as I have had my WSO's ripped and was not a happy camper..

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Love it!! I don't know where you come up with these profit pulling systems James but you have peaked my curiosity once again..lol.. Anything to profit from them is worth the effort as I have had my WSO's ripped and was not a happy camper..

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Thanks a lot Kim. This really is a fun product to even up the game a bit.
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Maybe this is off topic...NOT really... I would personally like to know how these sites can do this to begin with..are they outside FTC range... enlighten us...I'm sure you looked into this..
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Hey James, Blackhat...does that stand for Thieves?..I just thought they were creative and found loopholes...BUT maybe I was wrong...When people take your work, that has a price tag, and spread it around a community...isn't that like STEALING? Not sure how anyone makes any money if it's FREE, perhaps the Blackhatters, or men with ski masks have an explaination.. Just see nothing NOBLE about thieves or stealing...BUT who knows, Maybe I need to be enlightened by some WISE one...
There is a HUGE BH "business model"... just as one example, a person acquires a legitimate copy of your software (They buy it)...they then sell it to the BH "crackers" to be reverse engineered ("cracked or "nulled") and those people include it on their BH membership sites...the people that provide the legitimate copies are paid handsomely...This is just the tip of the iceberg...Believe me, your product creates quite a bit of financial motivation for BH'ers if it's a product worth having...If your product and 99 others are available for say $40/mo, that is more appealing than buying each one individually, hence you LOSE a lot of money, and they gain it.

I agree with James (and have had conversations with him about it)...It's not about anything more than acknowledging their existence and "turning the tables" on their activities.

I personally have been victimized by them, and effectively won the battle by preventing more loss...But the fact that I can profit from their activities is much more appealing than trying to stop them. (You will NEVER be able to stop them or prevent them from doing what they do).

So in short, they are making HUGE profits from plain and simple theft. They pocket money that should have been in your pocket, not theirs...

I hope that makes sense.

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There is a HUGE BH "business model"... just as one example, a person acquires a legitimate copy of your software (They buy it)...they then sell it to the BH "crackers" to be reverse engineered ("cracked or "nulled") and those people include it on their BH membership sites...the people that provide the legitimate copies are paid handsomely...This is just the tip of the iceberg...Believe me, your product creates quite a bit of financial motivation for BH'ers if it's a product worth having...If your product and 99 others are available for say $40/mo, that is more appealing than buying each one individually, hence you LOSE a lot of money, and they gain it.

I agree with James (and have had conversations with him about it)...It's not about anything more than acknowledging their existence and "turning the tables" on their activities.

I personally have been victimized by them, and effectively won the battle by preventing more loss...But the fact that I can profit from their activities is much more appealing than trying to stop them. (You will NEVER be able to stop them or prevent them from doing what they do).

So in short, they are making HUGE profits from plain and simple theft. They pocket money that should have been in your pocket, not theirs...

I hope that makes sense.

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Mr Renouf you have done it again! Love your products, I loved your natural approach to the videos, no reading from a script, it was like you were sat in my living room talking to me! lol. Really informative, I learned a lot from this. Thanks James.
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Thanks a lot. I really do appreciate it.
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Well just purchased this cant wait to see what this is like...
also why was i rejected as an affiliate like instant second i applied.
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Did you actually made money with your system?
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I have restrictions set up that if you have mailed before with no sales you are rejected from further mailings.
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Yes I have. And will continue too. Wide open.
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I'm getting this. I can't wait to see how you position Blackhats in a positive light
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Thank you, for not having an OTO upsell with this.

Is it about list building?

Is it something that needs to be monitored 24/7?

Do proxies have to be used for "it" to work?

Does it involve forum posting, using a fake persona?

What do you think the FTC might have to say about this method?

Do you offer a guarantee, so, if after I buy it, to see what it really is about, (it could be too risky for me), that I can get my money back?
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Can you go more what is about.

How much investment is needed. to start out.

How much money are you making with this mehtod
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What do you need to do this?
A list? A website?(or can you direct link).
Time needed to do this? Do daily, or once a week, or what?
Can this be done for any product/service? Once each is done is it set and forget for that one? Time commiettment to earn say 100 dollars a day after expense and tax?
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I got your email the other day and saved the information so I could pick this up today. First, ALL of James' products are top notch; he's one I will pretty much purchase from just because he put it out. But I'm excited about this course...looking forward to seeing how we can make money off the blackhatters.

Just an off-topic observation: I used to think "black hat" meant trying to find a work-around to Google's algorithm rules. I now know it means outright thievery.
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How much investment is needed. to start out.

How much money are you making with this mehtod

You don't need any money to start out.
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What do you need to do this?
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Time needed to do this? Do daily, or once a week, or what?
Can this be done for any product/service? Once each is done is it set and forget for that one? Time commiettment to earn say 100 dollars a day after expense and tax?

don't need a list or website.

Put in as much or as little time as you want.

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Old 06-13-2012, 06:28 PM   #43
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I got your email the other day and saved the information so I could pick this up today. First, ALL of James' products are top notch; he's one I will pretty much purchase from just because he put it out. But I'm excited about this course...looking forward to seeing how we can make money off the blackhatters.

Just an off-topic observation: I used to think "black hat" meant trying to find a work-around to Google's algorithm rules. I now know it means outright thievery.

You are correct Angela.The vast majority of the time Angela Black Hat means cutting the throat of other Imers. That is why it brings me joy to put this out.
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I used to think "black hat" meant trying to find a work-around to Google's algorithm rules. I now know it means outright thievery.
Exactly.... my thoughts as well...Also, It's amazing to see some asking question after question in here...Almost as if...They are making James work... Like they may be part of the DARK community.. ya think?
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Exactly.... my thoughts as well...Also, It's amazing to see some asking question after question in here...Almost as if...They are making James work... Like they may be part of the DARK community.. ya think?
Makes you wonder, doesn't it?
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Have you ever made a purchase, it delivers what it says, but then you realize that what you thought it was...it wasn't? That is exactly this. James does what he says but, it is not worth $.01. He tells the truth but nothing revealed that is new. just like the No Green/Blue screen, it is what he says but it is not with it.
This is my opinion. I would never buy it knowing what I do now.

James you are a good guy and very likeable but your products leave a lot to be desired.
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hi james really imterested in this product. but i really want question #36 answered before i jump in. thx
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Have you ever made a purchase, it delivers what it says, but then you realize that what you thought it was...it wasn't? That is exactly this. James does what he says but, it is not worth $.01. He tells the truth but nothing revealed that is new. just like the No Green/Blue screen, it is what he says but it is not with it.
This is my opinion. I would never buy it knowing what I do now.

James you are a good guy and very likeable but your products leave a lot to be desired.
Very interesting coming from someone with ZERO posts. I got quite a bit out of the course, myself. There were things in it that I personally did not know and that I found to be super beneficial information. But a WSO seller can't guarantee that their information is going to all be brand new to every, single buyer. I'm surprised that you purchased this course since you're apparently so knowledgeable about monetizing black hatters.
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Very interesting coming from someone with ZERO posts. I got quite a bit out of the course, myself. There were things in it that I personally did not know and that I found to be super beneficial information. But a WSO seller can't guarantee that their information is going to all be brand new to every, single buyer. I'm surprised that you purchased this course since you're apparently so knowledgeable about monetizing black hatters.
I am really not sure why it says zero posts, since I have been posting on here for just over 3 years. I did not say i was so knowledgeable about blackhatters, what I said was I did not find anything new. and I believe that anyone with ANY knowledge of forums will find it all as re-hashed info. Yes I was hoping for something new so I did purchase it.
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Brilliant!
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