[WSOTD] Lead Gen Legend

[lousilva]

Andrew-

Are your Lead Gen strategies applicable to something else other than SEO (i.e. SMS, Mobile Apps, Mobile Websites, etc.)?

Thanks.

Lou

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by lousilva

Andrew-

Are your Lead Gen strategies applicable to something else other than SEO (i.e. SMS, Mobile Apps, Mobile Websites, etc.)?

Thanks.

Lou

Hey Lou,

Are you asking if you can use this method to land clients for SMS, Mobile Websites etc??

[BJOcampo]

Andrew & John,

I bought this WSO and the upgrade based on Daniel Steven's recommendations. Looking forward to learning and earning from your WSO.

Thank you,

B.J.

[lousilva]

Originally Posted by MitchKid

Hey Lou,

Are you asking if you can use this method to land clients for SMS, Mobile Websites etc??

Andrew, that is correct.

Lou

[lousilva]

Originally Posted by lousilva

Andrew, that is correct.

Lou

Hey Andrew-

Just based on what I see for this WSO, looks to good to pass up either way.

It would be nice to get your response to my question, but not necessary anymore.

Thanks.

Lou

[TimD]

Hey Andrew,
There have been a fair number of WSOs over the past year based on finding niches, ranking sites, and selling the sites, leasing the sites, selling advertising on the sites, or selling the leads.

The two areas that I've seen as real weaknesses in the past have been:
1. targeting niches - In my experience you need to find a niche that a) has enough traffic to generate leads, and b) is vulnerable enough that you can rank quickly. Most previous WSOs haven't provided enough guidance on how to find those niches. They haven't said how many searches of what kind you really need to find, for example. The niches they've recommended have been all over the board, either very few niches or dozens. And they haven't said what to do when you find a niche and one, or two, or three of the top 10 sites on page one are already lead gen sites.

2. Selling/Leasing the site, or advertising, or leads - Most previous WSOs have focused on how to set up the site. They don't give realistic advice on how to sell the leads. It's generally "write an email copying all the major competitors, offering leads, and saying you'll only work with one of them." There's been a lot of feedback on the offline forum that this is a weak way to sell leads or sites and often doesn't work.

How does your WSO take care of these issues? Thanks in advance.

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by lousilva

Hey Andrew-

Just based on what I see for this WSO, looks to good to pass up either way.

It would be nice to get your response to my question, but not necessary anymore.

Thanks.

Lou

Lou, thank you for your kind words first off, we are happy to have you on board bud. To answer you question, this can be used to upsell the services that you mentioned (mobile websites, sms etc). There are also ways that you would be able to incorporate them into generating more leads for yourself. Bring this up on the Q&A webinars and we will discuss in detail bud. Thanks!

-A

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by TimD

Hey Andrew,
There have been a fair number of WSOs over the past year based on finding niches, ranking sites, and selling the sites, leasing the sites, selling advertising on the sites, or selling the leads.

The two areas that I've seen as real weaknesses in the past have been:
1. targeting niches - In my experience you need to find a niche that a) has enough traffic to generate leads, and b) is vulnerable enough that you can rank quickly. Most previous WSOs haven't provided enough guidance on how to find those niches. They haven't said how many searches of what kind you really need to find, for example. The niches they've recommended have been all over the board, either very few niches or dozens. And they haven't said what to do when you find a niche and one, or two, or three of the top 10 sites on page one are already lead gen sites.

2. Selling/Leasing the site, or advertising, or leads - Most previous WSOs have focused on how to set up the site. They don't give realistic advice on how to sell the leads. It's generally "write an email copying all the major competitors, offering leads, and saying you'll only work with one of them." There's been a lot of feedback on the offline forum that this is a weak way to sell leads or sites and often doesn't work.

How does your WSO take care of these issues? Thanks in advance.

Tim, good questions and thanks for your interest!

1. We go into detail about what the "profile" of your idea niche should be and give examples of them. John will also get into keyword research and how to identify opportunities for easy ranking.

2. We don't recommend selling or leasing ad space in this course. Also, we go in depth on how to approach businesses and sell leads as well. I don't waste time writing emails to competing businesses hoping to get business that way. We are much more proactive than that.

-A

[Luifej]

this work with mlm`s

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by Luifej

this work with mlm`s

This has absolutely nothing to do with MLM and I wouldn't have the slightest clue if it will work, I would pretty much guarantee that it wouldn't.

[TinMan100]

OK, I am in at $15.02. Also bought the OTO at $27.00

While going through one of the many videos, I had a question and emailed the support address. I got an answer 4 minutes later! Pretty impressive.

[Garth8]

Extremely tempting, since I'm inclined to the lead gen model, and Andrew's been pretty good so far. Would like to know more about the OTO before purchasing. I can't PM you (I'm not active enough), but I'm sure you can me. Also, can I upgrade to the OTO later if I want, at whatever the current deal is?

[cnwoods303]

Is there a theme included?

[AussieT]

Originally Posted by Garth8

Extremely tempting, since I'm inclined to the lead gen model, and Andrew's been pretty good so far. Would like to know more about the OTO before purchasing. I can't PM you (I'm not active enough), but I'm sure you can me. Also, can I upgrade to the OTO later if I want, at whatever the current deal is?

DITO

I also have a question regarding the reply you made in post #43

The question was

"can we have the website ranked before we call prospective clients"

your reply was

"you can have the site ranked first, but i like to go at it the other way just b/c of all the content that has to be done."

This suprises me and I find it hard to reconcile with the sales copy which says

1.

It became inscreasingly apparent that they [businesses] were extremely interested in one thing: Instant, Immediate Results

. If the sites are not pre-ranked and generating leads how can we offer them instant and immediate results?

2.

What if you could easily approach local businesses with these leads, pre-qualified and ready to be turned into sales.

Again how can we approach them with pre-qualified leads if we build the sites after we get their content?

3.

Module2: Here you'll get in-depth look at how to put together these simple lead gen sites.

This sound like a contradiction, you don't build them upfront because of all the content vs they are simple to build!

4.

Module 5: Your site is now ranked, which means your (sic) are going to start getting leads, Now all you have to do is find a business to work with

Again here you said you suggest that we build, rank, generate links and THEN approach clients.

Could you please explain the above seeming contradictions for me please.

AussieT

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by AussieT

DITO

I also have a question regarding the reply you made in post #43

The question was

your reply was

This suprises me and I find it hard to reconcile with the sales copy which says

1. . If the sites are not pre-ranked and generating leads how can we offer them instant and immediate results?

2. Again how can we approach them with pre-qualified leads if we build the sites after we get their content?

3. This sound like a contradiction, you don't build them upfront because of all the content vs they are simple to build!

4. Again here you said you suggest that we build, rank, generate links and THEN approach clients.

Could you please explain the above seeming contradictions for me please.

AussieT

Aussie, I appreciate you're comments and I'd be happy to address them.

Look, either way you put it, its really a chicken/egg scenario. There is nothing wrong with building and ranking the site first. There is nothing wrong with seeking out a business first before your site is ranked. There are pro's and con's to both, and let's face it, nothing in business is 100% perfect.

If you build a site first and start getting leads, you'll need to hurry up and find someone to work with quickly, otherwise you'll be losing money if you can't fulfill orders.

If you get a commitment first from a business, and then have to start building a site and ranking it, you may have a commitment, but you'll be losing out on time.

The point here is that you can do this either way. The above scenarios matter, however is is so insignificant compared to the bigger picture here, which is the fact that this is a legitimate, viable business model.

Hope that helps.

-Andrew

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by Garth8

Extremely tempting, since I'm inclined to the lead gen model, and Andrew's been pretty good so far. Would like to know more about the OTO before purchasing. I can't PM you (I'm not active enough), but I'm sure you can me. Also, can I upgrade to the OTO later if I want, at whatever the current deal is?

Garth, PM Sent!

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by cnwoods303

Is there a theme included?

Nope, but we suggest several that are affordable and or free that can get the job done.

-A

[garymac101]

Hello,

I was on this thread when it was $7.15, saw that there was no real info being shared about the OTO and am quite honestly over being surprised and played games with. I came back from a long night out having fun and not thinking about it, but figured I would jump back in here to see if any real info about the OTO yet. It's now up to almost $16...which is great for you guys...but still no info on OTO other than $27 and two pages of marginal answers and put offs, everything is "you'll see when you get inside" or "that will be covered on the Q&A webinar". Word on the videos is that they're marginal. Don't think I missed much, so I'm gonna pass, but appreciate the try. One last question...what are you and some of the other wso people taking lately...I gotta get some of that, it's obviously high strength!

[cwinters2]

Honest Review

Lead Gen Legend Honest Review - YouTube

[JorgeD]

Just my opinion here, but I don't think AussieT's questions were answered well. It was as if a politician was answering, the reply was basically waffling. The conclusion that this is a viable business model is not an answer, it is an opinion and, besides, the opinion is so general that it is worthless--a bit like saying that affiliate marketing is a viable business model.

I also agree that it is strange that the OTO is such a mystery. Why can't you just say what it is, and in what ways it would enhance your WSO? You have only to gain by being a little more transparent here.

Also, Modules 3 and 4 are supposed to reveal great secrets about ranking, and yet you backpedal when someone asks you about this and say it all depends on your ability to rank. But that ability is precisely what you are supposed to be teaching, otherwise why bother with the WSO? Leads are a function of people arriving at a site that is ranking. No rank, no leads. Without the leads a commitment on the part of a prospect doesn't put a nickel in your pocket.

Anyway, all this just to say I found the replies a little unsatisfactory, but that says nothing about the course itself, which may be very good, and going by cwinter2's video--good review--it sounds as though it is well worth it.

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

Honest Review
Lead Gen Legend Honest Review - YouTube

Hey Chris!!

Thank you for taking the time to make this review, John and I truly appreciate it, especially from someone like yourself.

Thanks so much!

-Andrew

[cwinters2]

OTO is not a mystery it ROCKS... I know I bought it.. NOTE: the course itself stands on it's own. The OTO is accelerated training and these guys went way over board.... here is just some of what you get... 1.) behind the scenes look into a real world case study detailing the making of a lead generation site that John and his partner built less that two weeks ago. 2.) They are going to do a live call where they sell the leads to prospects WOW!! NOTE: in the course they give their money site as the case study and the OTO is yet another case study.. .. there is more to the OTO .. but you know what start by getting the course then read thru their OTO .. it is killer... ***Don't come back and ask "What is the price.. why? This kinda education (real classroom real life) is priceless and they should charge you $197 for it..

YES module 3 and 4 they show EVERYTHING they did to rank a real life money site that it ranks on page one for many keywords.... dude what more do you want.. they pull back the curtain nothing is held back...come on.. give them a break...

Just looking at your past comments it seems there is a pattern going on here... what do you think?

Originally Posted by JorgeD

Just my opinion here, but I don't think AussieT's questions were answered well. It was as if a politician was answering, the reply was basically waffling. The conclusion that this is a viable business model is not an answer, it is an opinion and, besides, the opinion is so general that it is worthless--a bit like saying that affiliate marketing is a viable business model.

You find most replies unsatisfactory just look at your history....



I also agree that it is strange that the OTO is such a mystery. Why can't you just say what it is, and in what ways it would enhance your WSO? You have only to gain by being a little more transparent here.

Also, Modules 3 and 4 are supposed to reveal great secrets about ranking, and yet you backpedal when someone asks you about this and say it all depends on your ability to rank. But that ability is precisely what you are supposed to be teaching, otherwise why bother with the WSO? Leads are a function of people arriving at a site that is ranking. No rank, no leads. Without the leads a commitment on the part of a prospect doesn't put a nickel in your pocket.

Anyway, all this just to say I found the replies a little unsatisfactory, but that says nothing about the course itself, which may be very good, and going by cwinter2's video--good review--it sounds as though it is well worth it.

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by JorgeD

Just my opinion here, but I don't think AussieT's questions were answered well. It was as if a politician was answering, the reply was basically waffling. The conclusion that this is a viable business model is not an answer, it is an opinion and, besides, the opinion is so general that it is worthless--a bit like saying that affiliate marketing is a viable business model.

I also agree that it is strange that the OTO is such a mystery. Why can't you just say what it is, and in what ways it would enhance your WSO? You have only to gain by being a little more transparent here.

Also, Modules 3 and 4 are supposed to reveal great secrets about ranking, and yet you backpedal when someone asks you about this and say it all depends on your ability to rank. But that ability is precisely what you are supposed to be teaching, otherwise why bother with the WSO? Leads are a function of people arriving at a site that is ranking. No rank, no leads. Without the leads a commitment on the part of a prospect doesn't put a nickel in your pocket.

Anyway, all this just to say I found the replies a little unsatisfactory, but that says nothing about the course itself, which may be very good, and going by cwinter2's video--good review--it sounds as though it is well worth it.

Jorge, We are not trying to make the OTO a mystery. Here is exactly what it is:

A live case study of a lead generation site that John started building two weeks ago. He documents everything behind the creation of the site, how he did his research, on page, off page, content, etc. I also and doing a live call where I will actually be calling businesses to get business for this site. You will hear how the conversation with potential clients goes and how I handle that. This also will come with scripts you can use as a general guideline when contacting those businesses.

Hope this helps!

-Andrew

[MitchKid]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

OTO is not a mystery it ROCKS... I know I bought it.. NOTE: the course itself stands on it's own. The OTO is accelerated training and these guys went way over board.... here is just some of what you get... 1.) behind the scenes look into a real world case study detailing the making of a lead generation site that John and his partner built less that two weeks ago. 2.) They are going to do a live call where they sell the leads to prospects WOW!! NOTE: in the course they give their money site as the case study and the OTO is yet another case study.. .. there is more to the OTO .. but you know what start by getting the course then read thru their OTO .. it is killer... ***Don't come back and ask "What is the price.. why? This kinda education (real classroom real life) is priceless and they should charge you $197 for it..

YES module 3 and 4 they show EVERYTHING they did to rank a real life money site that it ranks on page one for many keywords.... dude what more do you want.. they pull back the curtain nothing is held back...come on.. give them a break...

Just looking at your past comments it seems there is a pattern going on here... what do you think?

And yea, I couldn't have said it better myself

[montero]

Cwinters2,

It's nice that you bought the WSO and that you're happy with it. It is also clear that you are defending your purchase. Fine and dandy. I see this oversensitivity to any critique or observation all the time in the forum, and it is really irritating. If you take the trouble to read the contexts, Jorge is generally agreeing with and supporting people in the thread. I think his point is consistent throughout--you're right about that--and correct. In his last post he says that the WSO looks very good--not exactly the attitude of a crank. None of his posts are on threads by well-known marketers here with sterling reputations--because they don't whine when people express a doubt and have a question, and they don't waffle either. Caveat emptor is a universal rule. Have you ever been in sales? I doubt it, because if you have, then you know you have to sell people, gain their trust, etc. No pro salesman ever took offense because he wasn't believed just because he said something. Just common sense too.

That aside, Jorge's post on this thread is just logical, there is no need to react emotionally to it, all the more so in that he says that the product may be perfectly good and that the video review of it was a good one.

Now maybe Mitch and company weren't trying to make the OTO a mystery, but it seemed like it. Why do you think people kept asking about it? Hello!! They just weren't paying attention or being sensitive to the matter. Finally, Mitch makes it clear--and it took Jorge to get him to do it.

Here is the truth: there are a great number of WSO's that are simply not good at all--in various ways--and a much smaller number that are very good. It's just the 80-20 rule. Therefore, people ask questions, and they have a perfect right to ask questions--this forum is not a bookstore, it sells digital products that cannot be examined before buying, and which are a hassle to get refunded if they are crap. That is the function of guarantees here--to inspire trust and to get the sale. Nor is this a religious organization that frowns on lack of faith.

The best marketers here have no problem answering questions--some of the best products have threads many pages long, and often even give away free valuable info in the process. All of them offer no questions asked guarantees--sometimes even without a time limit. They know their stuff is good and they have lots of happy customers to prove it and who happily testify to it.

And frankly, I find going back to comb someone's posts out of pique is sheer pettiness and a little mentally abnormal, not to mention the final kick by Mitch at the end. Personally, I would hesitate to buy this product just on the basis of the attitudes here.

[Angels&Demons]

Bought based per Chris Winters and the fact that even if the course wasn't absolutely 100% of what is purported to be, I can certainly pick up more than a handful of golden nuggets that would more than pay the price of the WSO.

Chris review is rather detailed and he provides some very candid commentaries.

Glad to be aboard.

Ken

[YellowGreenMedia]

Can this be done anywhere or do you use twilio for call tracking (which means it is us/uk only)

Dave

[cwinters2]

Dave ~ I cannot speak on behalf of the product creators but I if you will hear me out I will share my opinion based on how I run my lead gen business and after carefully studying Lead Gen Legend course.

Yes you could do this anywhere as long as you had a means of capturing the leads by e-mail, phone, and/or contact form. I would suggest a combination of phone and online contact form. There are prospect that will only call and others that will only fill out a form and want someone to contact them if you don't offer both options you are just leaving money on the table.

Any virtual phone system where you have the ability to leave a recorded voice message and forward the phone calls will do. Not sure of the options available in your area but if you cannot find any you may want to look into buying a Skype number, Google Phone #, and even getting a cheap throw away phone with a month to month calling plan. **Keep in mind that just one lead gen site could replace a J.O.B. so don't let the price of a phone number to manage leads stop you***

There are many ways to run a local lead gen business. One business model is to never meet your clients in person. I don't meet or speak to my US based customers and my sales staff is in Melbourne. The ascent and fact that we don't have a US based office does not effect our ability to sell leads to US companies.

Lead Gen conversations with a prospect is pretty straight forward as it cuts right to the heart of what the business owner wants... live customers. We never talk about SEO, Google Plus, Social Media, Facebook, Online Reputation Management, etc... Just about my company delivering live leads.. if the lead does not work they don't pay. So it is also risk free to the prospect.... Pretty easy sell and since the only thing I can close is a door...makes for perfect business model for me.

Wish you the best and may you take massive imperfect daily action

Originally Posted by YellowGreenMedia

Can this be done anywhere or do you use twilio for call tracking (which means it is us/uk only)

Dave

[papeter]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

Dave ~ I cannot speak on behalf of the product creators but I if you will hear me out I will share my opinion based on how I run my lead gen business and after carefully studying Lead Gen Legend course.

Yes you could do this anywhere as long as you had a means of capturing the leads by e-mail, phone, and/or contact form. I would suggest a combination of phone and online contact form. There are prospect that will only call and others that will only fill out a form and want someone to contact them if you don't offer both options you are just leaving money on the table.

Any virtual phone system where you have the ability to leave a recorded voice message and forward the phone calls will do. Not sure of the options available in your area but if you cannot find any you may want to look into buying a Skype number, Google Phone #, and even getting a cheap throw away phone with a month to month calling plan. **Keep in mind that just one lead gen site could replace a J.O.B. so don't let the price of a phone number to manage leads stop you***

There are many ways to run a local lead gen business. One business model is to never meet your clients in person. I don't meet or speak to my US based customers and my sales staff is in Melbourne. The ascent and fact that we don't have a US based office does not effect our ability to sell leads to US companies.

Lead Gen conversations with a prospect is pretty straight forward as it cuts right to the heart of what the business owner wants... live customers. We never talk about SEO, Google Plus, Social Media, Facebook, Online Reputation Management, etc... Just about my company delivering live leads.. if the lead does not work they don't pay. So it is also risk free to the prospect.... Pretty easy sell and since the only thing I can close is a door...makes for perfect business model for me.

Wish you the best and may you take massive imperfect daily action

Cwinters...you say: "if the lead does not work they don't pay". It sounds an attractive proposition for the buyer, but what if the buyer doesn't always tell the truth and he actually converts your leads, how can you check upon this? Thanks.

[baby_butler2002]

Originally Posted by garymac101

Please tell us about the OTO, how it will help with main product implimentation and price of it?

i would like to know the answer to this question also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[john Roberts]

Originally Posted by baby_butler2002

i would like to know the answer to this question also !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello baby_butler,

The oto is a live case study that I'm doing right now from start to finish. I go over everything I do to build a gen site.

[cwinters2]

papeter ~ I charge on per call bases the it is up to the business owner if they close the lead or not. For example, if towing company average net is $140 USD per tow and the business owner nets $80 per tow, if they close 40% of qualified calls and I charge $10 per call the towing owner would profit $220. In other words they hand me $100 and I give them back $320. How many times would they do that transaction? Answer: As many times as they can Since it based on per call there is no room to lie...if you charge weekly and at the end of week 1 they are not happy with the calls (not profitable to owner) they do not have to pay their bill.. I charge them nothing. Would they lie about that and take 1 weeks worth of calls for free? Not if they are generating a profit.

Now for higher end leads where 1 transaction is worth $5-20K to business owner you might want to follow up on the leads yourself and see if the business owner closed it or not..

There are many ways to runs Lead gen business ... I highly recommend the course plus the OTO where you get to have all your business questions answered via 3 webinars..from guys who are in the trenches and feeding their families thru lead gen business.

Final note.. I operate from a position of trust and providing massive value... which attracts like minded clients... will someone try to cheat me. sure.. but that is the 3% and I stay focused on the 97%.

[BizGrabbers]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

papeter ~ I charge on per call bases the it is up to the business owner if they close the lead or not. For example, if towing company average net is $140 USD per tow and the business owner nets $80 per tow, if they close 40% of qualified calls and I charge $10 per call the towing owner would pr

I must be missing something here....I usually do....but I'm totally lost with that scenario. I've read it more than three times and I'm still just as lost as I was the first time I read it.

Please don't get me wrong...I'm not criticizing or being negative...it's just that I don't understand the explanation. I would appreciate it if someone can set me straight. I really do want to understand it.

[cwinters2]

BizGabber ~ I am afraid in my passion for Lead Gen Legend and the business of selling leads to local business owners I might of added to much information and caused confusion. Here is bottom line to keep things focused:

* Lead Gen Legend is step by step working business model that works
* The guys are teaching their existing business to you.. nothing is held back.. they share it all in the course..
*They teach proven methods that is generating full time income today (this is not a theory WSO it is the real deal)
* Get the course.. and take massive imperfect daily action..

Quickly to try and answer you question directly.... think of pay per click with Google, Bing, and Yahoo, Take that same business model now think pay per call or Pay per lead. It is really that simple... to end any further confusion get the course... attend the webinars... and get the OTO if your serious about committing yourself to building a lead gen business.

I wish you the very best.

[BizGrabbers]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

BizGabber ~ I am afraid in my passion for Lead Gen Legend and the business of selling leads to local business owners I might of added to much information and caused confusion. Here is bottom line to keep things focused:

* Lead Gen Legend is step by step working business model that works
* The guys are teaching their existing business to you.. nothing is held back.. they share it all in the course..
*They teach proven methods that is generating full time income today (this is not a theory WSO it is the real deal)
* Get the course.. and take massive imperfect daily action..

Quickly to try and answer you question directly.... think of pay per click with Google, Bing, and Yahoo, Take that same business model now think pay per call or Pay per lead. It is really that simple... to end any further confusion get the course... attend the webinars... and get the OTO if your serious about committing yourself to building a lead gen business.

I wish you the very best.

Thanks for the reply. I already have the WSO but I'm smack dab in the middle of moving from one city to another. I'll dive in when I get settled down a little.

I think I missed the part in the example where the calculations were based on 10 tows? and I couldn't figure out what it meant by netting an average of $140 per tow and netting $80 per tow.

Thanks again.

[cwinters2]

BizGrabbers ~ Net = total money generated from one customer. Gross = total money generated from one customers after expenses (gas, employees, taxes, etc) it is the sum you actually take home

[BizGrabbers]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

BizGrabbers ~ Net = total money generated from one customer. Gross = total money generated from one customers after expenses (gas, employees, taxes, etc) it is the sum you actually take home

Apply what you just wrote above (quote) to the scenario in your original post below (quote) and show the calculations based only on the the information in the post below.

"if towing company average net is $140 USD per tow and the business owner nets $80 per tow, if they close 40% of qualified calls and I charge $10 per call the towing owner would profit $220. In other words they hand me $100 and I give them back $320."

For some reason, my +'s, -'s, x's, and /'s just aren't working out with only the information given.

By the way, I know what gross and net mean but your original post does not have the word "gross" in it anywhere. It also doesn't say how many "calls" or "tows" are being considered. I also can't figure out the difference between the "towing company" and the "business owner" if there is one at all.

I apologize for getting off the track of the WSO, but this information is in response to a question and the answer.

[NetDame]

Hi,
I wanted to buy the OTO, but I get a Paypal error message : "the vendor cannot received payment".

Can you please check and let me know when it is possible to buy again?

Thanks in advance and best regards,
Sophie, aka NetDame

[cwinters2]

Customer A grosses $140 per customer
Customer A nets $80 per customer
If 100 people call Customer A looking for Customer A services. Customer A can convert on average 40 of those calls.
I charge Customer A $10 per call ($10 X 100 calls = $1000)
Customer A nets $80 X 40 = $3,200
I charged Customer A $1000
Customer A net profit = $2,200

Originally Posted by BizGrabbers

Apply what you just wrote above (quote) to the scenario in your original post below (quote) and show the calculations based only on the the information in the post below.

"if towing company average net is $140 USD per tow and the business owner nets $80 per tow, if they close 40% of qualified calls and I charge $10 per call the towing owner would profit $220. In other words they hand me $100 and I give them back $320."

For some reason, my +'s, -'s, x's, and /'s just aren't working out with only the information given.

By the way, I know what gross and net mean but your original post does not have the word "gross" in it anywhere. It also doesn't say how many "calls" or "tows" are being considered. I also can't figure out the difference between the "towing company" and the "business owner" if there is one at all.

I apologize for getting off the track of the WSO, but this information is in response to a question and the answer.

[xichabodx]

I think they were getting confused seeing you used "net" on both figures, when the $140 amount should have been "gross".

Thanks for the insight, Chris!

Originally Posted by cwinters2

papeter ~ I charge on per call bases the it is up to the business owner if they close the lead or not. For example, if towing company average net is $140 USD per tow and the business owner nets $80 per tow, if they close 40% of qualified calls and I charge $10 per call the towing owner would profit $220. In other words they hand me $100 and I give them back $320. How many times would they do that transaction? Answer: As many times as they can Since it based on per call there is no room to lie...if you charge weekly and at the end of week 1 they are not happy with the calls (not profitable to owner) they do not have to pay their bill.. I charge them nothing. Would they lie about that and take 1 weeks worth of calls for free? Not if they are generating a profit.

Now for higher end leads where 1 transaction is worth $5-20K to business owner you might want to follow up on the leads yourself and see if the business owner closed it or not..

There are many ways to runs Lead gen business ... I highly recommend the course plus the OTO where you get to have all your business questions answered via 3 webinars..from guys who are in the trenches and feeding their families thru lead gen business.

Final note.. I operate from a position of trust and providing massive value... which attracts like minded clients... will someone try to cheat me. sure.. but that is the 3% and I stay focused on the 97%.

[TrueNLP]

This is a REFUND REQUEST.

Its a great course. It's just not a match with what I am looking to do.

I sent two emails but have not received any response.

I want to try posting my Refund Request here in the forum before taking a next step such as Filing a Dispute with Paypal.

Below is my info. for a Refund Request:


1) Lead gen Legend course

Paypal ID #6YH5887379298523G
$13.84
Sept. 18
Lead Gen Legend

2) Lead gen Legend Upgrade (OTO)
Paypal ID #3UP73566EC071634P
$27.00
Sept 18
Lead Gen Legend Upgrade Offer

Thank you for your immediate response.

[john Roberts]

Thank You Chris for your help.

you are a Rockstar

[svalegria]

Great course. I highly recommend it. And yes I paid for my course.
Dan

[YellowGreenMedia]

Originally Posted by cwinters2

Dave ~ I cannot speak on behalf of the product creators but I if you will hear me out I will share my opinion based on how I run my lead gen business and after carefully studying Lead Gen Legend course.

Yes you could do this anywhere as long as you had a means of capturing the leads by e-mail, phone, and/or contact form. I would suggest a combination of phone and online contact form. There are prospect that will only call and others that will only fill out a form and want someone to contact them if you don't offer both options you are just leaving money on the table.

Any virtual phone system where you have the ability to leave a recorded voice message and forward the phone calls will do. Not sure of the options available in your area but if you cannot find any you may want to look into buying a Skype number, Google Phone #, and even getting a cheap throw away phone with a month to month calling plan. **Keep in mind that just one lead gen site could replace a J.O.B. so don't let the price of a phone number to manage leads stop you***

There are many ways to run a local lead gen business. One business model is to never meet your clients in person. I don't meet or speak to my US based customers and my sales staff is in Melbourne. The ascent and fact that we don't have a US based office does not effect our ability to sell leads to US companies.

Lead Gen conversations with a prospect is pretty straight forward as it cuts right to the heart of what the business owner wants... live customers. We never talk about SEO, Google Plus, Social Media, Facebook, Online Reputation Management, etc... Just about my company delivering live leads.. if the lead does not work they don't pay. So it is also risk free to the prospect.... Pretty easy sell and since the only thing I can close is a door...makes for perfect business model for me.

Wish you the best and may you take massive imperfect daily action

Thanks,but it looks like twilio is now also available in Holland