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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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| Update #1: A bunch of Warriors who bought this course are already hitting profitable campaigns, and some are already scaling up, making high 3-figure per day profits. A few of them have posted their progress in the Support Forum inside member's area for all to see. Update #2: This WSO will be closed very soon. It'll be moved to its own new "home" (much higher prices). It's been a few of months running at this low price just for the Warriors, time to reprice the valuable contents. Be aware of copycats trying to swindle a quick buck or two out of you with their cheap knock-offs. What I teach in this course, the "in-the-trenches" details, and especially those in the Package #2, are not available anywhere else except in this course. Not to mention the Support Forum in the member's area, with constant posts, new and additional contents... ================================================== ============== Q & A section here. Ok, some questions coming... ====================== Please post presale question here below on the open thread (not through PM), appreciate it! ====================== Q1. Domain: what domain should I use for my landing pages? Answer: I've used various domains, mostly non-descriptive, unassuming ones, and then just put my landing page on a subdomain, or subdirectory. I'll give you some examples (not the real domains I used, but to give you some idea): wordpath.com, blogtalkpoint.com, talkingpointx.com... you get the idea. Then I'll put my landing pages on subdomains, such as: realfundate.wordpath.com datingpleasure.blogtalkpoint.com These work very well. A tip when targeting other countries. I always use a country-specific domain, such as : .de for German, .es for Spain, .co.uk for the UK... You can use an existing domain to test that country, if you see potential, then go to buy a generic domain for that country. Then set up your landing pages using a subdomain or subdirectory. Bottomline, you don't have to use a dating related domain for your landing pages. Q2: Some adult sites are blocked in my country, can I sitll do this? Answer: Yes, you can, for three reasons: 1) It's not necessary to view the adult sites to buy traffic from there, since in MOST cases, you will be buying traffic through a third party, either self-serve networks or others. 2) You don't actually need to see what the site look like, because you do NOT need to make specific banners to "suit" a certain sites. It's actually a bad idea (I've tried) to "customize your banners" and say something like... "Special for Pornhub.com visitors" blah blah type of "call outs", these may be good for Facebook or Pof, but not on adult sites. 3) You can pretty much view any adult sites using either a proxy or VPN (many free ones) to get an idea what it's about. ====== More will be posted |
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this is pure gold....hard to come across such solid products that lay out media buying strategies in such detail... I commend the OP on an extremely good product that anyone can use - newbie to advanced marketer - and figure out how to make adult traffic work, for any kind of CPA offer. well done! Gets two thumbs up from me. |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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Zen, interested in chatting with you. got skype. let me know.
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Sounds very interesting. Is it possible to outsource it? How much time is required to work on it? |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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As for time, depending on your experiences, you do need to devote some time to edit the landing pages, banner ads (which I've given the full templates), and of course set them up and run the campaigns. Does this help? | |
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OK, so I shelled out for this puppy. And... it's a damn fine piece of work. It's got a mapped-out workflow, viable ad examples, exact URLs to use-- at different steps in the process--, and fine-grained $$ estimates. It's basically a business-in-a-box... but unlike quite a few b-in a-b offers, there's not a long run-up time implied. Instead... invest cash; plug in the provided elements A, B, C; optimize; repeat. This is quite the deal. |
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This is a new area to me Should I expect to see a return on the $500 at all? Can it be left running or do I need to be in front of the PC a lot? Thanks |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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You will most likely make quite some back. Actually, for $500, you should already have a profitable campaign going by the time you are through with it. The detailed workflow I provided in the course should see you getting a profitable campaign with less than $200 spend, not loss mind you, since you should have conversions during the testing and optimzing process. Set a low daily budget while testing and optimizing, I got it all covered in the course. Thanks! | |
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How long is this wso running for? I want to pick it up but can't because I have to finish other projects. If I get it now I'll be tempted to dig in. Sarge |
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Sounds interesting. My question has to do with ROI, for example with a successful campaign, what kind of returns per dollar are typical (understandably ball park figures with no guarantees)? Say for every $100 spent on Ad buys, typically what is an anticipated and expected return? Thanks Jim R |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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Jim, ROI on adult traffic can be very good (as compared to that of mainstream media buys) once you've optimized your eCPM. However, the first $100 is pretty much testing and optimizing, so the ROI is hard to predict. It's the "stablized" ROI that's important - the ROI you can get after your initial testing and optimization - can be very good, can be as high as 30% on a rather large buy which is almost impossible on large mainstream media buys. On smaller buys, it can be as high as 100% (after optimization). Hope this makes sense to you. | |
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Hi, Does your WSO take care of 'mobile' dating offers? G B |
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Do the dating offer vendors allow you to advertise on adult sites or does this depend on flying under their radar? David |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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| G B, No, this WSO doesn't cover mobile dating offers per se, but you can use the exact same traffic sources, which all have huge mobile traffic. You do need to "mobilize" the landing pages if you use landing pages at all. But do understand that I don't cover mobile per se in particular, so I don't have real life data to back it up, as I do with normal sites. |
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| Name's Zen. Lead Gen Ace War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Honolulu, Spain, Germany
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Most dating offer vendors will NOT want you to promote their offers DIRECT LINKING from adult sites. In our case, we have "free rein" so to speak for two reasons: 1) We drive traffic to our landing pages; 2) We generate leads that back up for the dating vendors, which is very important. It doesn't matter where you traffic come from, if your leads don't back up for the vendors, you will be kicked off the offers anyways. Thanks | |
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Hi, I just purchased both your WSOs and sent you a PM regarding them. Looking forward to your response. Kind Regards, Mark |
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Zen, just sent you a PM. Didn't want to ask the question in thread. I think you will understand. Look forward to your reply. Thanks! |
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purchased package #2 holly F#$k Crap I'm getting goose bumps down my spine not many WSO's can do that Nigel |
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Hi Sirox When you mention you average $27,000 per month, how much on average would I invest to see that kind of income? I have a $5000 budget. Any ballpark on how far that will get me. Thanks! James |
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Follow the step-by-step workflow to test/optimize to profitability, then take it to scale, split it up on a few placements... then roll your profits back in, renew the buy with more impressions, while keep testing new (small-budget campaigns)... you will build up faster than you think once you get something profitable. The workflow, coupled with the "3 conversion secrets", and the (proven) landing page and banner templates, is designed to get to profitable campaigns with less than $200 spend. It's all about following a proven, duplicable, systematic workflow, and with $5,000, you will get there faster than you think. | |
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Just bought this, could you send me a PM please ? ![]() Thanks, looks great btw just a few questions |
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I noticed you showed your results up until June and showed the total revenue. Are these campaigns you are currently still running? If not, why? Also, can you explain how much you spent on a monthly basis to achieve your monthly revenue? Thanks! |
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Ok I will bite... I am not suppose to be buying any more shiny objects, since I am working at building my own business, but this looks like an Idea I tried to do in the past... I know there is money in the Adult field, but on WF it seems like taboo to talk about it. I also am going to send you a pm of my past Idea see what you think.
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I don't quite understand why a "large buy" might give you a 30% ROI but a "smaller buy" might give you 100% ROI. Shouldn't the ROI be the same no matter the size of the buy? Thank you very much in advance. | |
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do you need to put lot of porn video on the website?
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The tactics and systematic workflows (processes) taught in this WSO are evergreen, "robotically" duplicable from one campaign to another. There are many different campaigns, all can rake in the money, understand that they don't have to be hugely different in style and design. The WSO gives the "process" to churn out them fast. The actual campaign files provided are just two of them that you can model after to have a great head start. It's a simple matter of testing (and I show exactly how to do that without spending a fortune). Hope this make sense. | |
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Thanks a lot man. True that there are obscene (no pun intended) amount of money to be made in "Adult field". However, this WSO is not about doing "adult stuff", it's about taking advantage of the huge and often very cheap adult traffic and convert them into high quality dating leads. I've replied to your PM. | |
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However, if you do a buy say $50,000 on one placement that last for 4 - 6 weeks, then your ROI will level out to a lower one as the campaign progresses. But your ROI will still be much higher than what you would get from mainstream media buys. In the WSO, I show strategies how to minimize campaign burnouts and maintain profitability (on profitable campaigns). Naturally, you should always be testing new campaigns all the time while scaling and maintaining the profitable ones. It's all about having a "robotically" repeatable process, it can get boring. p.s. just to clarify, you don't need to have $5000, $6000 or anything like that to do the "buys". That's another good thing about adult media buys, you can do a buy with just a few hundred dollars, or you can do a buy with $100K. | |
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| No, nothing of that sort. This is about promoting mainstream CPA dating offers by buying adult traffic. The only thing "adult" about it is where we promote (the traffic sources), not what or how we promote. p.s. you do need to fight off the "distractions" though...- |
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.....serious question. Have you had problems with attacks on your pc, malware etc. dealing with these sites? Frank |
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I've never encountered anything like that. I know for sure that the big tube sites (< Alexa 2000) are as clean as Yahoo, or Google. They've built their sites into multi, multi million dollar businesses, they are as vigilant to keep malware stuff off their sites as any other multi-million dollar web properties. But if you browse some small odd ball adult sites (I don't do that myself - just saying ), you may encounter malware and stuff on some of those adult sites.But that's quite irrelevant to what we do. | |
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sent up a PM |
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hi I'm in the members area and would like to know if you can create an area where we can chat with others or to you - for question or whatever - thanks
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This is a great suggestion. Yes, I will open up a forum in the member's area so that everyone can "talk shop", share stuff. | |
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But why mainstream CPA and not adult dating CPA ? There is also many adult CPA offers...or they converts not that good? I haze zero experience with CPA and run a campaign. From your experience, how long it will take to get your results? (i have a lot of money to invest), but unfortunately, i don't have a lot of free time, so the question is,if it's possible to get to this goal - working only 10 hours a week? I am going to buy in a few minits. |
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Personally, I never promoted adult CPA, so I can't say much if they convert or not. Maybe because I started with the mainstream offers and made them work so I never took interest in adult cpa offers. So I think it's more of a personal choice than other reasons. As for the time it would take for someone who never ran a cpa campaign, working 10 hours per week, I'd say if you can bury your head down and devote that 10 hours to it, you can get a few campaigns up and running in 2 weeks max. Once you get to that point, then your BIG advantage (lots of money to invest) will come into play big time to "shorten" the time to profitability. Make sure you follow the workflows and the how to craft each elements of your campaigns so you don't throw money away (even if you have lots to invest), and as soon as you reach your "goal" - as taught in the WSO - you can take it to scale right away (in the way I show how to in the WSO). So, if you really bury your head down into it, then with the level of details and the step by step workflows I laid out in the WSO, plus your amble funds, you'll go very, very far within 4 weeks. | |
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