Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included!

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 07:47 AM

Tired of failing online, sick of not making enough money? Well forget online and try offline – it works.

Everyone is talking about Offline marketing being far more profitable (and easy) than online, with every online marketer after each others business!

It takes a minimum of time and effort for maximum results!

For sure, it’s the easiest business opportunity around; the reason is that most business owners don’t have a clue how to manage their online presence. I will tell you how to use their lack of knowledge and your wealth of knowledge (even if you're a newbie) to reel in the customers. It’s as easy as 1-2-3. If I can do it, I am sure you can.

Well, I started on 30th June and by the 28th July, I had made $24,553.71 (£13,332), proof below, this was taken from my bank statement, (I have removed any sensitive information such as bank account, etc for obvious reasons)

My ebook is 12 pages long; it’s not full of any filler or BS! It goes through how I get business, each way is legal…when you put them all together, they are a fantastic arsenal for attracting customers like a magnet attracts steel fillings.

If you are considering Offline work, this is a must for you, for only $19.99, you will discover how easy it really is.

As for guarantee – if you follow my instructions for 28 days and do not make half as much ($12,000) email me and I will refund you. As a side note, if you can’t make $12,000 offline with these strategies, you need to through out your computer and get a regular job.

Click ==> Show Me How To Make Money!

For personal use only. All purchases will be sent manually to your email address with paypal.

Glenn72 · 09-01-2008, 09:18 AM

I was wondering how much cold calling, selling or visiting businesses would be involved also.

I'm imagining it could possibly be something like maybe setting up e-commerce stores, domains and hosting that wouldn't cost much at all (maybe $20 on GoDaddy etc), and selling them to businesses for a lot more?

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Hi I am quite interested. Just a couple of questions...

"How long does it take till we see results?"

Is this cold calling or going to local businesses ? Do you give examples of businesses you worked with? Do you offer to build them websites?

Thanks

To see results, is a matter of hours. I don't cold call now I don't need to using my strategies.

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glenn72

I was wondering how much cold calling, selling or visiting businesses would be involved also.

I'm imagining it could possibly be something like maybe setting up e-commerce stores, domains and hosting that wouldn't cost much at all (maybe $20 on GoDaddy etc), and selling them to businesses for a lot more?

I spend around 4 hours per day with businesses, then 2 hours sorting their requirements out. I even give $150 of free hosting with this WSO.

mysticboy · 09-01-2008, 10:03 AM

Does this method work in other countries except U.S? I live in Pakistan, will this work for me?

Joseph Then · 09-01-2008, 10:08 AM

Paid but download link not found.

Please check.

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 10:10 AM

It works in the UK, USA and Europe as far as I know. There should be no reason that it wouldn't work in your location.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticboy

Does this method work in other countries except U.S? I live in Pakistan, will this work for me?

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 10:11 AM

Please check your inbox, as it has been manually sent.
Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joseph Then

Paid but download link not found.

Please check.

Dan DaSilva · 09-01-2008, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

To see results, is a matter of hours. I don't cold call now I don't need to using my strategies.

Alan, I don't quite get whether you now use cold calling as an acquisition strategy in your ebook or not. You only say that you don''t need to use your strategies, which confuses me additionally. Do you show other WORKING methods besides "walking into a store" and the likes?

Thanks for your update!
Dan

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan DaSilva

Alan, I don't quite get whether you now use cold calling as an acquisition strategy in your ebook or not. You only say that you don''t need to use your strategies, which confuses me additionally. Do you show other WORKING methods besides "walking into a store" and the likes?

Thanks for your update!
Dan

Dan, yes I do show you methods other than walking into a shop.

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Any reviews on this?

I got this from Keith, who has his own forum for offline businesses.

I just read your "offline" WSO.

It is short and concise and easy to read and understand.

Keith Boisvert

Internet Income · 09-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Just been PM'd this.

Quote:

For

No Fluff
Money Is There
Step By Step Guide
Many Pictures And Screenshots
Easy To Follow
Provides Tools Needed

Against

Offline Business
Will Not Work If You Are Shy
Must Be Willing To Work!

Summary

Overall i think this is a good book for any person who wants to look into the offline internet marketing niche. Guide is very easy to follow step by step. Although this method requires some degree of professionalism and confidence its a flawless guide. There is a profit potential of well over 30,000 depending on where you live.

eshera · 09-01-2008, 02:41 PM

Hey and Happy Holiday Weekend, everybody..
Say Alan...

I just ordered through paypal, but the download link also gave me a 404.

Dan DaSilva · 09-01-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

Dan, yes I do show you methods other than walking into a shop.

Alan, seriously, can you please answer the question whether your WSO uses methods of cold calling to get clients. This is important since cold calling is already forbidden in some counties.

Also, I would be interested in knowing why you - according to your own words - don't use your own strategies. This got me confused.

Thanks,
Dan

braver55b · 09-01-2008, 07:53 PM

I would be interested in this, if you could say definitively that there is no cold calling or having to do mass mailings and if there is no large investment needed to get things rolling?

shareitall · 09-01-2008, 08:54 PM

Just purchased, got this message:

The requested URL ...oFFlinegold.pdf was not found on this server.

Please send to: allissaandersen@gmail.com receipt is below, thanks!

Transaction ID:

1UM4837231299480V Item Price:

$19.99 USD Total:

$19.99 USD Order Description:

Offline Gold - The money Magnet Buyer:

Allissa Andersen

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan DaSilva

Alan, seriously, can you please answer the question whether your WSO uses methods of cold calling to get clients. This is important since cold calling is already forbidden in some counties.

Also, I would be interested in knowing why you - according to your own words - don't use your own strategies. This got me confused.

Thanks,
Dan

I do not use cold calling.

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 12:22 AM

I have sent your link manually, as stated in the WSO.

Please check your inbox.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shareitall

Just purchased, got this message:

The requested URL ...oFFlinegold.pdf was not found on this server.

Please send to: allissaandersen@gmail.com receipt is below, thanks!

Transaction ID:

1UM4837231299480V Item Price:

$19.99 USD Total:

$19.99 USD Order Description:

Offline Gold - The money Magnet Buyer:

Allissa Andersen

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by braver55b

I would be interested in this, if you could say definitively that there is no cold calling or having to do mass mailings and if there is no large investment needed to get things rolling?

No cold calling
No mass mailings (SPAM!!)
No large investment, can be started with $50

lakshaybehl · 09-02-2008, 12:38 AM

I will consider invesating... but let's first see some reviews by the buyers posted here right in this thread...

Lets see...

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 01:45 AM

So the 2 reviews I've posted aren't enough...I'd love to hear from others!

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

I am not totally convinced to be honest. I need better reviews than this for the price

I am going to pay.

Imran, I have a review from a guy who has his own forum on offline opportunities, he's even offered to do a JV with this product! It must be good otherwise he wouldn't ruin his reputation with anything less.

If you aren't convinced, don't buy I will not hold a gun to your head...

As a side note, it's been nearly 1 hours and Imran hasn't paid.

graphicsgenie · 09-02-2008, 07:06 AM

Just purchased

Unique Transaction ID #XXXXXXXXXXX95824W

Thanks

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graphicsgenie

Just purchased

Unique Transaction ID #XXXXXXXXXXX95824W

Thanks

I've sent the download manually. Please check your inbox.

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

Good Luck on the sales but until I see a proper review I will buy..

Thanks for that Imran, that's your choice.

abundantliving · 09-02-2008, 08:25 AM

People are asking for reviews of this WSO, so here goes...

I, personally, have a workshop teaching people how to start an internet consulting business... that is, acting as a consultant to offline businesses (see Instant Internet Consultant)

I purchased this WSO out of curiosity, and I must say I am VERY impressed.

It contains some of what I teach in my workshop - but, this WSO is priced at just $19.99 (as opposed to the $297 I charge for my workshop).

Plus, it contains an ingenious twist that (a) establishes your credibility, and (b) has potential clients swarming you.

I strongly recommend this WSO to anyone who is interested in earning money as a consultant to offline businesses.

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 08:34 AM

Thank you very much for your kind words.

Quote:

Originally Posted by abundantliving

People are asking for reviews of this WSO, so here goes...

I, personally, have a workshop teaching people how to start an internet consulting business... that is, acting as a consultant to offline businesses (see Instant Internet Consultant)

I purchased this WSO out of curiosity, and I must say I am VERY impressed.

It contains some of what I teach in my workshop - but, this WSO is priced at just $19.99 (as opposed to the $297 I charge for my workshop).

Plus, it contains an ingenious twist that (a) establishes your credibility, and (b) has potential clients swarming you.

I strongly recommend this WSO to anyone who is interested in earning money as a consultant to offline businesses.

Keith Boisvert · 09-02-2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

I got this from Keith, who has his own forum for offline businesses.

I just read your "offline" WSO.

It is short and concise and easy to read and understand.

Keith Boisvert

Not to be a pain in the ass here, but usually a PRIVATE MESSAGE means private, not copy and pasted into the forum and used as a testimonial.

Don't take it down or anything, as I didn't say anything of value in it, but next time just ask. If I wanted what I said to you made public, I would have posted it in this thread.

Again, just making note. Someone else might not be as forgiving as I am next time.

Keith

Internet Income · 09-02-2008, 09:42 AM

Sorry...I will ask in future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Boisvert

Not to be a pain in the ass here, but usually a PRIVATE MESSAGE means private, not copy and pasted into the forum and used as a testimonial.

Don't take it down or anything, as I didn't say anything of value in it, but next time just ask. If I wanted what I said to you made public, I would have posted it in this thread.

Again, just making note. Someone else might not be as forgiving as I am next time.

Keith

klandino · 09-02-2008, 01:52 PM

Is this a complete system? I want to order but also want to make sure it takes me from A to Z.

Thanks,

Kevin

Bayo · 09-02-2008, 04:12 PM

I think as with all things finacial reward related, there is no guarantee whatsoever because success depends on individual abilities and inputs outside the control of the product developers.

Internet Income · 09-03-2008, 12:22 AM

Kevin,

Yes, it's totally complete, no stone has been left un turned!

Quote:

Originally Posted by klandino

Is this a complete system? I want to order but also want to make sure it takes me from A to Z.

Thanks,

Kevin

Internet Income · 09-03-2008, 12:24 AM

You're quite right, if you sit on your arse, you get no where...if you get off it and apply my strategies you WILL make lots of money, with my product.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bayo

I think as with all things finacial reward related, there is no guarantee whatsoever because success depends on individual abilities and inputs outside the control of the product developers.

Bayo · 09-03-2008, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

You're quite right, if you sit on your arse, you get no where...if you get off it and apply my strategies you WILL make lots of money, with my product.

Interpretation: (a) "Arse" = (b) Butt

We just like the sound of (a) better to keep it real!

I've read the book and my review is that it will help anyone entering the market get to grips with the offline business model in a way that reaches out to new entrants.

klandino · 09-03-2008, 12:17 PM

Just paid.
Can't wait to read this.

Thanks,

Kevin

Internet Income · 09-03-2008, 12:30 PM

I've emailed everyone their link - thank you.

proscoonie · 09-03-2008, 04:12 PM

Just purchased and came up with an error message that link was not found.

Here's my Transaction ID: 82R660641U8637419

cheers

Internet Income · 09-04-2008, 12:36 AM

Hi,

all links have been manually sent as described in the WSO, to all buyers with cleared funds.

Thank you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by proscoonie

Just purchased and came up with an error message that link was not found.

Here's my Transaction ID: 82R660641U8637419

cheers

proscoonie · 09-04-2008, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

Hi,

all links have been manually sent as described in the WSO, to all buyers with cleared funds.

Thank you.

I've received your email with the link, unfortunately the link doesn't work. Would you be able to send the PDF attached to my paypal email? Thanks Alan.

proscoonie · 09-04-2008, 03:18 AM

Don't worry, all good. Link finally works.

RC7000 · 09-04-2008, 03:48 AM

Paid and got 404 error. Sent private message and got no reply.

Internet Income · 09-04-2008, 04:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC7000

Paid and got 404 error. Sent private message and got no reply.

RC7000,

the link is sent manually as stated in the WSO. Please check your inbox, also I responded to your PM, go and check...

Quote:

For personal use only. All purchases will be sent manually to your email address with paypal.

Steve Peters Benn · 09-12-2008, 10:23 AM

Hi,

Can I ask if the evidence you show is a scan of a UK bank account (with personal details removed), or is it something you made to show the amount?

montero · 09-12-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Internet Income

It works in the UK, USA and Europe as far as I know. There should be no reason that it wouldn't work in your location.

It seems to me there is a very good reason why it might not work. Doesn't the entire opportunity rest on the fact that countries like the US have an enormous number of prospective clients who are online and who look for businesses online? I doubt that is the case for Pakistan, or for many countries that do not have the economic profile of the US or of Western European countries. For example, do you think a Pakistani dentist will really experience an increase in business thanks to his website, because many Pakistanis are looking online for the right dentist in their area. I doubt it. It's not the website or the marketing technique that are fundamental, it's the actual size or even existence of the market, of the potential customers.

Richard Tunnah · 09-22-2008, 07:01 AM

In my view this report is not the sellers own and may have utilized other people's work. I requested a refund on the 12th September but heard no more since. Maybe the seller is ill or something but waiting over a week for a refund doesn't impress me!

Rich

adiknight · 06-03-2010, 02:02 PM

Hey is this still for sale? Links are invalid....

09-01-2008, 07:47 AM	#1
Internet Income HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 220 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Tired of failing online, sick of not making enough money? Well forget online and try offline – it works. Everyone is talking about Offline marketing being far more profitable (and easy) than online, with every online marketer after each others business! It takes a minimum of time and effort for maximum results! For sure, it’s the easiest business opportunity around; the reason is that most business owners don’t have a clue how to manage their online presence. I will tell you how to use their lack of knowledge and your wealth of knowledge (even if you're a newbie) to reel in the customers. It’s as easy as 1-2-3. If I can do it, I am sure you can. Well, I started on 30th June and by the 28th July, I had made $24,553.71 (£13,332), proof below, this was taken from my bank statement, (I have removed any sensitive information such as bank account, etc for obvious reasons) My ebook is 12 pages long; it’s not full of any filler or BS! It goes through how I get business, each way is legal…when you put them all together, they are a fantastic arsenal for attracting customers like a magnet attracts steel fillings. If you are considering Offline work, this is a must for you, for only $19.99, you will discover how easy it really is. As for guarantee – if you follow my instructions for 28 days and do not make half as much ($12,000) email me and I will refund you. As a side note, if you can’t make $12,000 offline with these strategies, you need to through out your computer and get a regular job. Click ==> Show Me How To Make Money! For personal use only. All purchases will be sent manually to your email address with paypal.
	Last edited by Internet Income; 09-01-2008 at 09:03 AM.

09-01-2008, 09:18 AM	#2
Glenn72 Music video beat maker Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 153 Thanks: 35 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! I was wondering how much cold calling, selling or visiting businesses would be involved also. I'm imagining it could possibly be something like maybe setting up e-commerce stores, domains and hosting that wouldn't cost much at all (maybe $20 on GoDaddy etc), and selling them to businesses for a lot more?

09-01-2008, 10:03 AM	#5
mysticboy Pro Article Writer Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: , , Pakistan. Posts: 40 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Does this method work in other countries except U.S? I live in Pakistan, will this work for me?

09-01-2008, 10:08 AM	#6
Joseph Then Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 35 Thanked 237 Times in 141 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Paid but download link not found. Please check.

09-01-2008, 02:41 PM	#13
eshera Official Goofball War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Twin Cities, MN Posts: 151 Thanks: 75 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Hey and Happy Holiday Weekend, everybody.. Say Alan... I just ordered through paypal, but the download link also gave me a 404.
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09-01-2008, 07:53 PM	#15
braver55b Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: St.Louis, USA Posts: 923 Thanks: 10 Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! I would be interested in this, if you could say definitively that there is no cold calling or having to do mass mailings and if there is no large investment needed to get things rolling?

09-01-2008, 08:54 PM	#16
shareitall HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Chandler, AZ , USA. Posts: 329 Thanks: 4 Thanked 25 Times in 22 Posts Contact Info	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Just purchased, got this message: The requested URL ...oFFlinegold.pdf was not found on this server. Please send to: allissaandersen@gmail.com receipt is below, thanks! Transaction ID: 1UM4837231299480V Item Price: $19.99 USD Total: $19.99 USD Order Description: Offline Gold - The money Magnet Buyer: Allissa Andersen

09-02-2008, 12:38 AM	#20
lakshaybehl Business Man War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Globe Trotter from Delhi, India Posts: 1,963 Blog Entries: 12 Thanks: 266 Thanked 452 Times in 145 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! I will consider invesating... but let's first see some reviews by the buyers posted here right in this thread... Lets see...

09-02-2008, 01:45 AM	#21
Internet Income HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 220 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! So the 2 reviews I've posted aren't enough...I'd love to hear from others!

09-02-2008, 07:06 AM	#23
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09-02-2008, 08:25 AM	#26
abundantliving Holly Cotter War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Shady Side, MD, USA. Posts: 1,884 Thanks: 2 Thanked 348 Times in 248 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! People are asking for reviews of this WSO, so here goes... I, personally, have a workshop teaching people how to start an internet consulting business... that is, acting as a consultant to offline businesses (see Instant Internet Consultant) I purchased this WSO out of curiosity, and I must say I am VERY impressed. It contains some of what I teach in my workshop - but, this WSO is priced at just $19.99 (as opposed to the $297 I charge for my workshop). Plus, it contains an ingenious twist that (a) establishes your credibility, and (b) has potential clients swarming you. I strongly recommend this WSO to anyone who is interested in earning money as a consultant to offline businesses.

09-02-2008, 01:52 PM	#30
klandino Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 568 Thanks: 28 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Is this a complete system? I want to order but also want to make sure it takes me from A to Z. Thanks, Kevin

09-02-2008, 04:12 PM	#31
Bayo BAYO aka Mr B War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, IL, USA. Posts: 1,405 Thanks: 96 Thanked 252 Times in 143 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! I think as with all things finacial reward related, there is no guarantee whatsoever because success depends on individual abilities and inputs outside the control of the product developers.

09-03-2008, 12:17 PM	#35
klandino Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 568 Thanks: 28 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Just paid. Can't wait to read this. Thanks, Kevin

09-03-2008, 12:30 PM	#36
Internet Income HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2008 Location: Manchester, UK Posts: 220 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! I've emailed everyone their link - thank you.

09-03-2008, 04:12 PM	#37
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09-04-2008, 03:18 AM	#40
proscoonie Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 73 Thanks: 7 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Don't worry, all good. Link finally works.

09-04-2008, 03:48 AM	#41
RC7000 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 142 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Paid and got 404 error. Sent private message and got no reply.

09-12-2008, 10:23 AM	#43
Steve Peters Benn Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Leeds, United Kingdom. Posts: 3,519 Thanks: 598 Thanked 334 Times in 165 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Hi, Can I ask if the evidence you show is a scan of a UK bank account (with personal details removed), or is it something you made to show the amount?

09-22-2008, 07:01 AM	#45
Richard Tunnah Just hitting the mouse! War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Puerto Calero, Lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 1,935 Thanks: 334 Thanked 204 Times in 164 Posts Social Networking	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! In my view this report is not the sellers own and may have utilized other people's work. I requested a refund on the 12th September but heard no more since. Maybe the seller is ill or something but waiting over a week for a refund doesn't impress me! Rich

06-03-2010, 02:02 PM	#46
adiknight Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 48 Thanks: 20 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Make $24,533 in 28 days, I did! Newbies Included! Hey is this still for sale? Links are invalid....