NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $17!

Ron Rajan · 07-12-2009, 08:24 AM

Its been more than a week and all PMs and email to seller are being ignored...have just filed a Paypal dispute...

Ron

Steven Fullman · 07-12-2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhollar

Its been more than a week and all PMs and email to seller are being ignored...have just filed a Paypal dispute...

Ron

Regretably, I've done the same. It's the first dispute I've ever made.

But I had several videos tied up here, and...well...I gave the guy several chances.

Nath -- if you're reading -- I can still reverse my dispute...there's still time.

Steve

Sid Kaplan · 07-13-2009, 12:58 AM

Anybody, other than Big Mike, get their money back or their videos delivered?

Peter Helps · 07-13-2009, 09:46 AM

Hi Digitips,

This is peter. You did a video for me couple of weeks ago. I sent you a pm. Let me know if you can do that job.

Peter

mentor4u · 07-13-2009, 04:09 PM

Alas i paid for 5 videos almost 3 weeks ago.

yes by now we know he is gone. if he didnt make my 5 videos from
3 weeks ago i doubt he will make anyones.

File a claim with Paypal..and if they dont hurry will do a charge back on my credit card.
Anything i do on the internet i use credit card for quick charge back.

Paypal will sometimes stroke you and let you lose everything.
Chargeback is immediately.

We are assuming he gave the one back and took the rest .

Well Nath , you blew a good thing..You could have built a good business and raised your prices.
So everyone should stand in line at paypal today.
Don

Scott Logan · 07-13-2009, 06:19 PM

All I can say is man if I had the skills to crank these videos out. I would

I know there is a line up of clients ready to go based on reading this thread

Can anyone step up and fill some orders at a decent price point???

- Scott Logan
Night Owl Marketing

Wishing You Whole Life Success!

new guy · 07-13-2009, 08:12 PM

Dispute filed, I had no choice. Too bad...

Kevin Lam · 07-13-2009, 08:35 PM

2 weeks is long enough. I submitted my dispute. We'll see what happens.

DaveLloyd · 07-13-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scottie_Logan

All I can say is man if I had the skills to crank these videos out. I would

I know there is a line up of clients ready to go based on reading this thread

Can anyone step up and fill some orders at a decent price point???

- Scott Logan
Night Owl Marketing

Wishing You Whole Life Success!

Hi Scott,

Sadly, if it seems too good to be true, then it probably is!

If you think about it, say you use twenty or more images for a video, these will probably cost upwards of $60.00. Then the soundtrack - at least another $20.00! Then you would have the cost of labour and profit on top!

The videos offered in this WSO were made using Animoto (an automated system), and they were made in direct violation of Animoto's TOS.

You can read the pertinent part of their TOS here:
animoto - frequently asked questions

Quote:

Can I resell Animoto Videos?
The Terms of Service allow for you to re-sell videos to individuals, but not to other businesses.

Each business using Animoto commercially must have their own Animoto for Business account. However, feel free to re-sell videos to individual people (for example, a videographer selling a video to a couple who just had a wedding).

A Licence costs $99.00 for a three month trial, or $249.00 per annum.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings, but, if you require several videos, you could always sign up and make them yourself. No skills are required Animoto does it all for you!

Dave

Vocalines · 07-14-2009, 04:49 AM

Hello everyone,

I can help doing videos... what I do is scrowl down a written article with my url in the video and that's it.. the goal is to drive traffic not to be the new Martin Scorcese or Francis Ford Coppola...

I even had a WSO a while ago about creating videos with text only...

Let me know if I an help

To your success

Alex

Scott Logan · 07-14-2009, 09:35 AM

thanks for the heads up Dave

very unfortunate that this hyper WSO ended this way

thanks for the nice resource

Scott

DaveLloyd · 07-14-2009, 11:00 AM

Hi Scott,

Glad to be of assistance!

Animoto is quite widely known about. I hope you find it useful!

I agree with you about the WSO

Dave

Kevin Lam · 07-15-2009, 08:51 AM

I don't mind using animoto... but one thing that sucks about it is the branding that comes with it. You can't just remove their logo. I knew it looked like the animoto style, but I figured people just found a way to recreate it using a different program.

I have a yearly subscription... probably ending soon so I'd better check. I know I didn't pay THAT much.

Sid Kaplan · 07-15-2009, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Lam

I don't mind using animoto... but one thing that sucks about it is the branding that comes with it. You can't just remove their logo. I knew it looked like the animoto style, but I figured people just found a way to recreate it using a different program.

I have a yearly subscription... probably ending soon so I'd better check. I know I didn't pay THAT much.

I think if you pay for the business edition there is no animoto branding which is one of the reasons for the higher price!

Here is what they say on their site

"Unlimited full-length videos, each licensed for commercial use with no Animoto branding. Takes just minutes to create one. Easily update it anytime. Hassle-free pre-licensed music. Embed it to your site or share it."

Much success to you.

Sid

Kevin Lam · 07-15-2009, 10:43 AM

Well, crap! I'll head on over that way! LOL

cherylwright · 07-15-2009, 07:06 PM

I know everyone is upset, but Nath has been a member of the WF since 2007. I can't see a long-standing member skipping town over a few dollars.

In my opinion, something serious has happened.

I'm waiting a bit longer...

Cheryl

Kevin Lam · 07-20-2009, 09:06 AM

I ordered this thing June 29th. Opened PayPal dispute July 13th. It's now 7 days later. This guy needs to just be banned. This is ridiculous. I don't know how people can slip through the cracks like this. I mean, I'm sorry if someone in the family died and I feel bad, but all it takes is ONE post: Hey 'someone died', I'll be back guys. That's all it takes.

webdiva · 07-20-2009, 10:43 AM

I've NEVER lodged a PayPal dispute before. Nor escalated it to a 'claim'. This is a first for me in over 10 years full-time online. I likely would have just let it go if I hadn't purchased multiple videos. Even though it was a matter of principle all along, with more dollars invested it became worth my time to try to DO Something about it.

Anyway....

My PayPal dispute has gone 9 days with NO reply from Nathe, so I bumped up to a claim. What happens then, if Nathe has no response whatsoever?

Kevin Lam · 07-20-2009, 11:11 AM

If there's money in his account, PayPal will just take it. Hopefully, they'll freeze it and close it if there's no money left.

Sid Kaplan · 07-20-2009, 11:13 PM

I am supposed to have a resolution tomorrow (July 21) but I noticed his PayPal is registered to Emma Nicole... I hope he did not burn someone else's good credit.

I don't think Nath is short for Emma!

Jeremy Kelsall · 07-20-2009, 11:42 PM

Looks like this one is a goner.

Sid Kaplan · 07-22-2009, 06:26 PM

Well folks, PayPal ruled in my favor but guess what - surprise - no money in his account. BOINK! Thanks for playing though!

Here is the crux of the message:

Quote:

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

Please know that we will make our best effort to recover the funds in
question if they become available in the seller's account in the future and
will take appropriate action against the seller.

Looks like he did burn a bunch of us but you know, I love the WF and sh_t happens. Thankfully we are not all like Nath.

Time to move on!

Sid

cherylwright · 07-25-2009, 05:07 PM

Okay, so I have egg on my face.

I've just done a Whois search, and surprise, surprise, his domain details are private.

But... his domain supplier is namecheap, and he's hosted by Hostgater. Not sure if either of these can help.

BTW, the site is still up and running.

Has anyone placed an infraction against this guy? I'm going to check because at the very least it will get the mods investigating him, with a possible ban as the result.

I am so shocked

, and thoroughly annoyed.

Cheryl

cherylwright · 07-25-2009, 05:09 PM

Okay, just went to check about an infraction -- he's already been banned.

Cheryl

Sid Kaplan · 07-25-2009, 06:14 PM

Hey Cheryl

Thanks for making the attempt. Time to let go. What goes around comes around and he really shot himself.

He could have made a lot of money and had a great following here at the WF but he is done on this forum.

No egg on your face - you gave a lot of trust and were very good at playing devil's advocate. Sometimes nice people get burnt. But in the end we hang on to our values and something like this just reinforces that it does not take much to treat folks as you would like to be treated.

I wish you much success.

Sid

Jeremy Kelsall · 07-25-2009, 06:23 PM

The bad part is...chances are, he will be back under a different username.

cherylwright · 07-25-2009, 06:42 PM

The worst part is that most of us on this thread will now be so much more wary in future. That's not only bad for us, but bad for those with WSO's.

That's twice I've been burned through WSO's now, but with the first I was able to get a full refund - nearly $90. It took six months, but I did finally get it. (And he's at it again.

)

Cheryl

aclacy · 10-15-2009, 08:52 PM

I ordered 2-3 months ago, still waiting for my video...

cherylwright · 10-15-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aclacy

I ordered 2-3 months ago, still waiting for my video...

As we all are.... he skipped town with all our money.

Cheryl

Kevin Lam · 10-15-2009, 10:04 PM

My offer is now gone.

07-12-2009, 08:24 AM	#101
Ron Rajan HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 422 Thanks: 41 Thanked 112 Times in 40 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Its been more than a week and all PMs and email to seller are being ignored...have just filed a Paypal dispute... Ron

07-13-2009, 12:58 AM	#103
Sid Kaplan HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 396 Thanks: 71 Thanked 41 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Anybody, other than Big Mike, get their money back or their videos delivered?

07-13-2009, 09:46 AM	#104
Peter Helps Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 958 Thanks: 40 Thanked 46 Times in 40 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Hi Digitips, This is peter. You did a video for me couple of weeks ago. I sent you a pm. Let me know if you can do that job. Peter

07-13-2009, 04:09 PM	#105
mentor4u HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: , , USA. Posts: 262 Thanks: 67 Thanked 83 Times in 71 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Alas i paid for 5 videos almost 3 weeks ago. yes by now we know he is gone. if he didnt make my 5 videos from 3 weeks ago i doubt he will make anyones. File a claim with Paypal..and if they dont hurry will do a charge back on my credit card. Anything i do on the internet i use credit card for quick charge back. Paypal will sometimes stroke you and let you lose everything. Chargeback is immediately. We are assuming he gave the one back and took the rest . Well Nath , you blew a good thing..You could have built a good business and raised your prices. So everyone should stand in line at paypal today. Don

07-13-2009, 06:19 PM	#106
Scott Logan Night Owl Marketing War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 342 Thanks: 28 Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ All I can say is man if I had the skills to crank these videos out. I would I know there is a line up of clients ready to go based on reading this thread Can anyone step up and fill some orders at a decent price point??? - Scott Logan Night Owl Marketing Wishing You Whole Life Success!

07-13-2009, 08:12 PM	#107
new guy HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: , , Canada. Posts: 162 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Dispute filed, I had no choice. Too bad...

07-13-2009, 08:35 PM	#108
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ 2 weeks is long enough. I submitted my dispute. We'll see what happens.

07-14-2009, 04:49 AM	#110
Vocalines HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , , France. Posts: 194 Thanks: 5 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Hello everyone, I can help doing videos... what I do is scrowl down a written article with my url in the video and that's it.. the goal is to drive traffic not to be the new Martin Scorcese or Francis Ford Coppola... I even had a WSO a while ago about creating videos with text only... Let me know if I an help To your success Alex

07-14-2009, 09:35 AM	#111
Scott Logan Night Owl Marketing War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 342 Thanks: 28 Thanked 22 Times in 12 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ thanks for the heads up Dave very unfortunate that this hyper WSO ended this way thanks for the nice resource Scott

07-14-2009, 11:00 AM	#112
DaveLloyd HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 483 Thanks: 34 Thanked 41 Times in 26 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Hi Scott, Glad to be of assistance! Animoto is quite widely known about. I hope you find it useful! I agree with you about the WSO Dave

07-15-2009, 08:51 AM	#113
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I don't mind using animoto... but one thing that sucks about it is the branding that comes with it. You can't just remove their logo. I knew it looked like the animoto style, but I figured people just found a way to recreate it using a different program. I have a yearly subscription... probably ending soon so I'd better check. I know I didn't pay THAT much.

07-15-2009, 10:43 AM	#115
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Well, crap! I'll head on over that way! LOL

07-15-2009, 07:06 PM	#116
cherylwright Writer& Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 620 Thanks: 160 Thanked 110 Times in 88 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I know everyone is upset, but Nath has been a member of the WF since 2007. I can't see a long-standing member skipping town over a few dollars. In my opinion, something serious has happened. I'm waiting a bit longer... Cheryl

07-20-2009, 09:06 AM	#117
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I ordered this thing June 29th. Opened PayPal dispute July 13th. It's now 7 days later. This guy needs to just be banned. This is ridiculous. I don't know how people can slip through the cracks like this. I mean, I'm sorry if someone in the family died and I feel bad, but all it takes is ONE post: Hey 'someone died', I'll be back guys. That's all it takes.

07-20-2009, 10:43 AM	#118
webdiva HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 489 Thanks: 1 Thanked 32 Times in 26 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I've NEVER lodged a PayPal dispute before. Nor escalated it to a 'claim'. This is a first for me in over 10 years full-time online. I likely would have just let it go if I hadn't purchased multiple videos. Even though it was a matter of principle all along, with more dollars invested it became worth my time to try to DO Something about it. Anyway.... My PayPal dispute has gone 9 days with NO reply from Nathe, so I bumped up to a claim. What happens then, if Nathe has no response whatsoever?

07-20-2009, 11:11 AM	#119
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ If there's money in his account, PayPal will just take it. Hopefully, they'll freeze it and close it if there's no money left.

07-20-2009, 11:13 PM	#120
Sid Kaplan HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 396 Thanks: 71 Thanked 41 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I am supposed to have a resolution tomorrow (July 21) but I noticed his PayPal is registered to Emma Nicole... I hope he did not burn someone else's good credit. I don't think Nath is short for Emma!

07-20-2009, 11:42 PM	#121
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 6,797 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 3,672 Times in 1,256 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Looks like this one is a goner.

07-25-2009, 05:07 PM	#123
cherylwright Writer& Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 620 Thanks: 160 Thanked 110 Times in 88 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Okay, so I have egg on my face. I've just done a Whois search, and surprise, surprise, his domain details are private. But... his domain supplier is namecheap, and he's hosted by Hostgater. Not sure if either of these can help. BTW, the site is still up and running. Has anyone placed an infraction against this guy? I'm going to check because at the very least it will get the mods investigating him, with a possible ban as the result. I am so shocked , and thoroughly annoyed. Cheryl

07-25-2009, 05:09 PM	#124
cherylwright Writer& Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 620 Thanks: 160 Thanked 110 Times in 88 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Okay, just went to check about an infraction -- he's already been banned. Cheryl

07-25-2009, 06:14 PM	#125
Sid Kaplan HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 396 Thanks: 71 Thanked 41 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ Hey Cheryl Thanks for making the attempt. Time to let go. What goes around comes around and he really shot himself. He could have made a lot of money and had a great following here at the WF but he is done on this forum. No egg on your face - you gave a lot of trust and were very good at playing devil's advocate. Sometimes nice people get burnt. But in the end we hang on to our values and something like this just reinforces that it does not take much to treat folks as you would like to be treated. I wish you much success. Sid

07-25-2009, 06:23 PM	#126
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 6,797 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,050 Thanked 3,672 Times in 1,256 Posts	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ The bad part is...chances are, he will be back under a different username.

07-25-2009, 06:42 PM	#127
cherylwright Writer& Internet Marketer War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 620 Thanks: 160 Thanked 110 Times in 88 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ The worst part is that most of us on this thread will now be so much more wary in future. That's not only bad for us, but bad for those with WSO's. That's twice I've been burned through WSO's now, but with the first I was able to get a full refund - nearly $90. It took six months, but I did finally get it. (And he's at it again. ) Cheryl

10-15-2009, 08:52 PM	#128
aclacy Australian Marketing Coac War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 368 Thanks: 13 Thanked 62 Times in 56 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ I ordered 2-3 months ago, still waiting for my video...

10-15-2009, 10:04 PM	#130
Kevin Lam Dare To Dream War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas, USA. Posts: 986 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 179 Thanked 229 Times in 154 Posts Social Networking	Re: NOW CLOSED! Why Pay $97 For Crappy VIDEO CREATION When You Can Get It Done Here TODAY For Just $ My offer is now gone.
	Last edited by Kevin Lam; 10-20-2009 at 12:30 PM. Reason: offer closed.