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Unread 30th Sep 2012, 02:33 PM   #351
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This product gives very detailed guidance to get you started in CPA. Also, great tips on joining networks. I am glad that I purchased!
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I bought this system and found that there was nothing new here. Its basically placing a cpa offer on the POF website using ppc. There may be some useful info included but overall it lacks content.
I also purchased the upgrade which was described as 500 "done for you campaigns". What I got was 4 sample ads, 125 images of smiling women and several suggested offers ( some of which were no longer current) The idea must be, that I perm any combination and promote. That is not what I call "done for me campaigns". I e-mailed support 3 times but just got canned type replies back which did not address my concern. Eventually Jason replied with a curt e-mail informing me that 4 ads and 125 images, thats 500 sir.
The sales copy states "exact campaigns" Jason.
I would also urge caution regarding advertising with ppc. If you are inexperienced, you could end up spending a fortune without making a dime.
My main gripe with this product is the mis-leading sales copy, but make no mistake you do not get 500 exact done for you campaigns.
There is also so a give-away bonus of a further 100 DFY campaigns, if once purchased, you review here on this forum. I wonder what I will get, but I for one do not want to do business with people that dont deliver what has been purchased.
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One word AWESOME

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Originally Posted by Kezam View Post

Firstly ... NO OTO...WoW. Full disclosure upfront in the WSO sales page is rare these days. Granted, there is an "Done 4 You" time saver offer but its. not a 'must have' to make the system work. Plus you can always take up the offer later if you like so I hit the BUY NOW button. After the usual run around I was in.

The member area is nicely set out. Clear instructions, a simple process that is very do-able, even for someone new to the CPA game. In fact especially for CPA newbies. Just stick to the plan and when you hit a winner, rinse and repeat. I noticed Azsno's short video showing the results of his first campaign. Very encouraging. Can't wait to get the ball rolling.

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Thanks great job!
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This product gives very detailed guidance to get you started in CPA. Also, great tips on joining networks. I am glad that I purchased!
Great stuff guys!
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hi
just wanted to say it's a very good course. If u want to know how to get accepted into cpa network and make money just buy it. Believe me you will not be disapointed
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Sadly, I think I can sum up the content of this entire WSO in a few short bullet points.

- Making money with paid traffic -> CPA is possible.
- Plenty of fish is dating site with advertising, and dating ads/offers are popular there.
- You can create a POF advertiser account and start running ads very quickly and easily.
- You have to test and track combinations of images, headlines, landers, offers, etc. in order to find winners and profit.

This is absolutely nothing new.

The problem I have with this WSO -
Please don't try to trick people into thinking that paid traffic->CPA can be profitable like an on/off switch. You have to test, test, test, track, optimize, and practice at it.
Even with the "done for you" ads, which is 4 headlines/copies and 125 so-so images, you're just setting people up for failure by getting them to expect to be making 100/day instantly and for everything to be easy.

ALSO...
You suggest to start bidding very low at 0.20, then come down to 0.02 if you aren't getting conversions. This is just horrible advice.
First off, 0.16 is the MINIMUM bid on POF and has been for some time now, so you can't bid lower than that. Second, 0.20 will get you very little traffic, most likely not "enough", like you said, to get sufficient data to make crucial decisions on within a reasonable time.
Bid high first to collect data, optimize, then lower your bid.
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A most useful post, Devin.
Good to hear from some more seasoned folk who have been in the CPA trenches.

Anybody else, seasoned or otherwise, making any headway with this product or just in general with POF and dating campaigns?

Thanks for that.
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Originally Posted by Devin2290 View Post

Sadly, I think I can sum up the content of this entire WSO in a few short bullet points.

This is absolutely nothing new.

The problem I have with this WSO -
Please don't try to trick people into thinking that paid traffic->CPA can be profitable like an on/off switch. You have to test, test, test, track, optimize, and practice at it.
Even with the "done for you" ads, which is 4 headlines/copies and 125 so-so images, you're just setting people up for failure by getting them to expect to be making 100/day instantly and for everything to be easy.

ALSO...
You suggest to start bidding very low at 0.20, then come down to 0.02 if you aren't getting conversions. This is just horrible advice.
First off, 0.16 is the MINIMUM bid on POF and has been for some time now, so you can't bid lower than that. Second, 0.20 will get you very little traffic, most likely not "enough", like you said, to get sufficient data to make crucial decisions on within a reasonable time.
Bid high first to collect data, optimize, then lower your bid.
Thanks Devin - you appear to be an experienced CPA'er so thank you for taking the time to review.

Sadly I think you are making a review without having read thoroughly what we have set out in this system, because there are some factually incorrect statements in your review.

First, you are dead right there is nothing new in the initial purchase. We never said it was! Does it need to be new to make money? I think not.

What is perhaps new is the simplicity of this course in that we focus on a simple POF/dating CPA strategy. So many CPA courses are overwhelming for the newbie by just teaching theory. Ours is precise.

We never suggest bidding 0.02c CPM. We suggest experimenting by lowering your bid by 0.02!! Please, if you are going to criticise, criticise fairly.

Finally, you appear to be offering opinions based on theory, versus our experience based on fact. Fact - 0.20 CPM DOES produce sufficient clicks - did you try what we suggested? It is with this bid that we achieved the earnings shown on the thread, just a few weeks ago.

I think the main point you have missed is that the campaigns are proven. We have already done the testing and tweaking with the done-for-you campaigns, and present the finished article for you to plug and play.

Thank you once again for your review.

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just wanted to say it's a very good course. If u want to know how to get accepted into cpa network and make money just buy it. Believe me you will not be disapointed
Thanks good to hear a counter view to the above one!

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Thanks great job!
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Originally Posted by Kezam View Post

Firstly ... NO OTO...WoW. Full disclosure upfront in the WSO sales page is rare these days. Granted, there is an "Done 4 You" time saver offer but its. not a 'must have' to make the system work. Plus you can always take up the offer later if you like so I hit the BUY NOW button. After the usual run around I was in.

The member area is nicely set out. Clear instructions, a simple process that is very do-able, even for someone new to the CPA game. In fact especially for CPA newbies. Just stick to the plan and when you hit a winner, rinse and repeat. I noticed Azsno's short video showing the results of his first campaign. Very encouraging. Can't wait to get the ball rolling.

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Thanks Marinc - appreciate your review too!

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Well with that all being said it's time to see some results. John has answered tons of questions but the proof of the WSO is in the earning. If it's that easy to put one dollar in and get three dollars back I'd like to see some stats.
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Well with that all being said it's time to see some results. John has answered tons of questions but the proof of the WSO is in the earning. If it's that easy to put one dollar in and get three dollars back I'd like to see some stats.
Hi EvolBaby - that's easy! See below. $5 in and $16.50 out.

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OK... For doubters out there. I bought this along with the upgrade and read over it. It is very simple and easy to put into action. That is the key TAKE ACTION. I did.. used one of the campaigns in the course. Actually used an offer from Maxbounty not listed in the course. Guess what spent $5.00 on traffic and had 3 conversions at $5.50 each.

According to my math... I'm in the money and this was just a test.. wait till I optimize and use landers! POF has huge traffic and this course gives you campaigns to run. The only thing they don't do is hold your hand on the keyboard and mouse!!

Soldier up and TAKE ACTION!!!! 99% fail because no action is taken. Be the 1% and use your skills to pay the bills!!!

Just my two cents worth.. now back to optimizing with landers!!!
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Originally Posted by EvolBaby View Post

Well with that all being said it's time to see some results. John has answered tons of questions but the proof of the WSO is in the earning. If it's that easy to put one dollar in and get three dollars back I'd like to see some stats.
Very true, Ive made similar comments here but they have been deleted as this one most likely will...im following this thread not to make problems but because i am actually really interested and ready to purchase this if it works. Ive been experimenting with CPA for a few months now almost full time and am making money but almost the same as i am putting in....which of course is pointless. There are many people saying how great this is....have anyone tried it and made some money, surely the people who say how great it is must have made something in order for it to be so great..??? (putting in 1$ and getting 3$ back???)


Great post Devin.
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Unfortunately I'm going to have to agree with some of the comments on here. I was initially excited at the thought of going through the content, eager to learn and pick up on anything new. Now I'm not claiming to be a CPA pro (far from that), but I have to be completely honest, and admit that I have actually walked away not having learnt anything new. The information is rather brief for the most part - This is pretty much a round up of what I made from CPA money Multiplier:

- Introduction to what CPA is
- Find a CPA offer
- where to sign up for a POF advertising account
- How to "create" a campaign

Disappointed by the lack of material, I thought that maybe by taking up the Upgrade offer, I would really benefit from their "done for you" campaigns. Again I personally felt rather deceived by the sales letter as I was expecting to find "500 done for you" campaigns, instead being given 6 offers (two of which do not count as they have been ruled out as no longer being accepted by POF, so practically 4 offers....) as well as 4 ad texts and some images (somehow this is meant to add up to 500 different combinations?) At the end of the day the point in buying the upgraded bonus was to significantly reduce (if not eliminate) the risk of having to spend time as well as money in multiple testing, and I feel that having been given a bunch of offers and told to now vary them simply goes against the idea proposed by the upgrade in the first place.

Simply put, the bottom line is that for those who do not have a clue about CPA and feel that they'd like an introduction to what CPA is and how it works then this may well be for you... And for those who do know a thing or two about CPA... will you learn anything new from this? probably not... Just my honest opinion.

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40 bucks spent on done for you campaigns. 0 conversions. I get it about the testing, but you may have to spend quite a bit until you find a winner
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Guys - nothing in the sales materials promises 500 done for you campaigns.

That figure of 500 is within the material itself - after purchase - and represents the full set of combinations. It's a bit of a throw away line, as I said, never claimed in the sales materials

I'm really bummed schnisz had no success, Buddy I've no idea what it was if you implemented exactly what we said. Those campaigns are proven, they work as is. There should be no need for testing. They were up and running just before this WSO launched and you saw the screenshots. You also saw the results sanhern had in post 205 copied again below.

So I'm really disappointed for you buddy. All I can suggest is to check you have done exactly what we said and also maybe I need to close this WSO as despite the market being huge, maybe there are too many of the same ads appearing after all. I can't belive that is the case but I guess it may be the right thing to do to close it now just in case, so that is what I will do.

But just to balance schnisz's results with some positive ones, here is sanhern's:

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OK... For doubters out there. I bought this along with the upgrade and read over it. It is very simple and easy to put into action. That is the key TAKE ACTION. I did.. used one of the campaigns in the course. Actually used an offer from Maxbounty not listed in the course. Guess what spent $5.00 on traffic and had 3 conversions at $5.50 each.

According to my math... I'm in the money and this was just a test.. wait till I optimize and use landers! POF has huge traffic and this course gives you campaigns to run. The only thing they don't do is hold your hand on the keyboard and mouse!!

Soldier up and TAKE ACTION!!!! 99% fail because no action is taken. Be the 1% and use your skills to pay the bills!!!

Just my two cents worth.. now back to optimizing with landers!!!
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I'm wondering how it would work with more precise targetting. I'm seeing ads on there aimed at specific ages, its just tough spending with no results. I'd be willing to try again but..
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Here's a question: What in Sam Hill is a "POF"?
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Here's a question: What in Sam Hill is a "POF"?
POF stands for a site called Plenty of Fish. It is an extremely active dating website.
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POF stands for a site called Plenty of Fish. It is an extremely active dating website.
I remember that site. They asked me to do some art for them way back if I recall.

Dating sites have gone from one extreme to the other. People just gotta date!

Matter of fact, this gives me a great idea!
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Hey, John!

How are you? I've recently purchased CPA Money Multiplier and attended your webinar with Chad Hamzeh who lives in here in Calgary, and learned a lot from you guys.

I'm glad you've shut down purchase for other for the moment, so we can truly take action and get the results as a smaller group. But for anyone out there reading this, if John open this up again I would definitely recommend buying this course right away.

It's top notch and John has shown a willingness to go beyond to support his customers with proven campaigns and extra training. I appreciate it very much!

Thank you,
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Originally Posted by ryan.arnfinson View Post

Hey, John!

How are you? I've recently purchased CPA Money Multiplier and attended your webinar with Chad Hamzeh who lives in here in Calgary, and learned a lot from you guys.

I'm glad you've shut down purchase for other for the moment, so we can truly take action and get the results as a smaller group. But for anyone out there reading this, if John open this up again I would definitely recommend buying this course right away.

It's top notch and John has shown a willingness to go beyond to support his customers with proven campaigns and extra training. I appreciate it very much!

Thank you,
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What the heck are you talking about? Truly take action and get results as a Smaller Group?
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Hey guy,

I'm only talking about myself taking action. And if this WSO is closed, then it's a smaller group than if it was still open logically speaking, correct? And thereby logically speaking, John would have more time to dedicated to his current customers. Nothing magical here.
I hope to heck this makes sense for you.

Take care now,

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Originally Posted by AngeloI View Post

Just wanted to post that I made my first $5.50/Lead submit in exchange of $3.00 spent. This is big since I've been part of some cpa networks, but never really made money after my first campaign. Follow what they say step by step with and then add a bit of your own creativness for ad copy, run some tests and stick with what works.. The bonus video also helped...I highly recommend this course and the OTO if you can...Thanks
May I know are you using direct linking or landing page?

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followed all the advice in both the main product and the upgrade. spent $100 on ads in POF testing all 4 done for you ads with different images. $100 spent + many hours invested for a return of $4.70. very expensive lesson...how do I get a refund?
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Hello everyone.

If I may I'd like to go ahead and give a bit of a review of this program thus far. I purchased the CPA Money Multiplier on September 26th. After learning what the course had to offer I was able to start testing CPA offers last night.

Following the steps last night I can affirm that the suggested CPM (0.20) is more than enough to access the profit potential of an offer. Bidding any higher from what I've seen would cause you do hemorrhage money before you've had a chance to make any.

Yesterday's performance was interesting enough since it was my first time looking into CPA.

Impressions Delivered: 53638
Clicks: 16
CTR: 0.030%
CPC: $0.67
Total Spent: $10.73

Today's performance so far has since improved with testing more popular offers and more traffic targeting.

Impressions Delivered: 26357
Clicks: 10
CTR: 0.036%
CPC: $0.56
Total Spent: $5.63

Total Earned: $2.25

It's all work in progress of course, but for those who don't have at the very least $100 to test. I wouldn't expect much in your efforts until you are able to properly test offers and find something that works for you. I actually came back to this thread to see if I should invest into the upgrade package but I must confess the lack of success was a bit of a turn off.

I don't doubt the system works of course because there clearly is a learning curve to it, but if you aren't willing to work at it I would tell you to search for something else entirely out of the CPA field. There simply isn't a magic button to press from the start, it will take some time to create it for yourself.

Overall I personally Like the system, it's short, simple, and doable. Even though I am actually down $14 plus dollars I am not deterred from making this work.
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I must have "bad luck" like schnisz and MrLeisureUK. I purchased the "done for you" ran several version of the 4 ads and have had zero conversions as well.

I can also confirm the .20 CPM is definitely enough to get tons of traffic.
(sample stats 3 different ads with about 15 different creatives)
Total Impressions: 66,443
Total Clicks: 28
Avg CTR: 0.042%
Total Costs: $13.29
zero conversions

Overall I am ok with the main product, but the "upgrade" is questionable. When offered done for you proven converters, that is what I expect. I can spend money and time testing different combinations of dating offers and ads and loose money without anyone else's help.
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Thanks kindly, 'not quite', interesting IM intel.
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Guys

Thanks for the feedback. With the done for you campaigns, I honestly do not know what is the reason some of you are not seeing results. You are getting everything (clicks, impressions) but not the conversions. Well, some of you are making money, but some are reporting these zero conversions.

If you are implementing exactly like we have said, then you are implementing campaigns that are proven and were working for us - we pulled them down just before the WSO - and you could see our stats in the original thread - giving us 300% return. So it makes no sense at all that they would not be working today - I'm puzzled.

I hope you will all have implemented our campaigns exactly as shown. You must use the exact offers we suggest in the done for you section, don't forget. If you have made any changes at all, then the results may be different.

The only thing I can think of is that some of the offer pages have changed and I've asked Jason to look into this.

Bottom line is the done for you campaigns are proven, and recently too. So check you have used the offers we said to use, and meanwhile we will investigate what else could have changed.

All the best,

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Hey John - I did buy...and I am glad you closed it to "protect" the market for the buyers.
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Good Product and service.
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Hello John,
I have tried a number of products and have yet to find one that delivers on its claim. Therefore, I was indeed hesitant to try this one. But after reading your sales letter and others testimonies, I decided to give it a try. It all looks as if it may work, my problems is a technical one. I have tried to contact you via your customer service email on several occasions but I have yet to hear from you. I do realize that this is not the place to post these type of questions, but it seems as if you avail yourself to this type of forum more quickly than to the dedicated email address.
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Hi buddy - we answer all support requests daily so I'm not sure what has happened.

Make sure you have this right: contact at nationalhomebusinesscenter.com

If still no luck, please pm me here!

All the best, John
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As a regular user of POF I am always keen to check out new products. Unfortunately I found this one to be simplistic, with little meat on the bones beyond setting up a campaign.

With that said, I must say I was impressed with John's customer service. I requested a refund, to which he responded quickly and politely. Even though I can't vouch for the product, I will vouch for the man.
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I liked the fact this was fast to set up and didn't require a website although I have several already. I found it easy to follow the material despite an initial worry caused by others' comments. I've signed up to several networks using the tips supplied and have only been declined once but that is being changed. I've been distracted with some personal events the last couple of days (new family addition and a family wedding to plan!)but having spoken with affiliate managers about my intended next steps I anticipate earnings this week. I'll update my comments when I can report results.
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When I click on your contact us, it brings me back to the program. I need some help please. I'm new to this, and I'm confused. Could someone reply to my message please.

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Originally Posted by John_Pearce View Post

Hi buddy - we answer all support requests daily so I'm not sure what has happened.

Make sure you have this right: contact at nationalhomebusinesscenter.com

If still no luck, please pm me here!

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Hi WhiteDove,

Maybe you can send your question to their email: contact at nationalhomebusinesscenter.com
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Hi John,
Do you have an update for the other method to run offers with pof?
I have send you pm.. check please..

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can i ask my refund ? because you aren't responed my email..
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John.. are you still here..? I have sent you an email... ask refund.. would you reply my email please...?
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This is one of the fastest and easiest programs to put together and get up and running, Glad I found this at the Forum.
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Hi John,

I have send you an email..to ask my refund.. thanks..
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Beginning CPA marketers will find this an introduction that will get them heading in the right direction, although constant course correction (via testing of offers and creatives) will be needed to continue to make a lot of progress.
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This is a quick and easy system. Have been able to set up several campaigns already. Great work. Will keep an eye for your future products
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