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Unread 5th January 2013, 04:13 PM   #51
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OK it seems it's a problem with Firefox, it works in IE.
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Chris Munch's stuff is very good, but to be totally fair, there is just one thing, which I made made an attempt to discuss with him via email, a complaint I guess, that I have about Chris, which never got responded to; I purchased Optimize Press through one of his affiliate links about a year ago and the bonus was supposed to be a review of my business (it may have been through another product like hook pigeon or something, I really don't remember what product the "bonus" came with any more).

Anyway, I sent the receipt to him along with my url's and he never responded. I emailed his support desk after two weeks and asked when I could expect my online business review from Chris - still no response. Shortly after that, Chris was off on another product launch and so I gave up.

I think Chris Munch has some great ideas and great products. I would never take that away from him. He's awesome. I am only responding to this thread to keep things in better balance. I have no idea why Chris decided to ignore giving me my bonus, but oh, well.

Chris, please don't offer to review my business now. I no longer want or need it... No offense or anything.


The beginning of last year ( Jan 2012) I just got started in Internet Marketing and in (March 2012) Chris released the Hook Pigeon 7-Day Training and I bought it with the optional upgrades.

I was Very excited to learn about this strategy and implement it, plus starting out Fresh and Brand new as an Internet Marketing Newbie this would be a great way to get traffic,make some sales, and not rely on Google as I was learning more and more what it would take to rank a site then

So I was Totally Stoked!!

From what I learned in the training the Hook Pigeon Method was awesome and still probably is and still effective today

Though I haven't ever got to implement it

Reason is because I couldn't watch all the videos as some of them you had to download and watch on VLC player and for some reason I could never get VLC player to work on my computer.

The other videos of his training I did get to watch and they were Great!!

I did contact support several times about this issue and they always did get back with me trying to help and get this figured out on why the videos I had to download weren't playing??

Still till this day I don't know why they did that?!

Why did you guys make the videos like that Chris?

Not upset or mad or anything, but just curious as I was a paying customer


So from my experience I have nothing bad to say about Chris and I never even heard of him before that day last year because as I said I just started my I.M. journey the beginning of last year and was really excited to learn about this Hook Pigeon method

The only thing I was disappointed in the whole Hook Pigeon Training was that the videos I couldn't watch I had to download and they for some unknown reason made it this way and did not make watching all the videos the same and just simply watch them in the members area, which was way more simpler and easier then having to download them and watch them on a media player that didn't work on my computer.

So I felt overall I wasted some money on this, but I also understood it wasn't that much money I spent on it and the upgrades and that this would whole Internet Marketing business like anything you're learning for the 1st time will take some time and sometimes you're going to lose money as well.

Guess it's all part of the game.
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Unread 5th January 2013, 04:22 PM   #53
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Reason is because I couldn't watch all the videos as some of them you had to download and watch on VLC player and for some reason I could never get VLC player to work on my computer.

The other videos of his training I did get to watch and they were Great!!
Thanks for the kind words, and sorry about the issues you had previously with my videos.

Getting the videos in a format that worked on everyone's computer was a little tricky to figure out, but I have since updated them, so if you go back into the members area you can now watch them in your browser, and also download the videos for playback on most devices.
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Unread 5th January 2013, 04:31 PM   #54
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My Review (and yes I paid for this WSO) :

This is an absolute MUST READ! Great way to start off 2013.

Recently with all of the Google algo changes its definitely a smart idea to take the advice that Chris teaches in this report and implement it into your website content and traffic building strategies.

This report tells you how its more important to get traffic through other means besides trying to rank higher in Google.

Now with this report (and the awesome software if you decide to purchase) you are able to increase your traffic without even being on Google's 1st page.

Now you can increase traffic while you steadily increase in rankings. No longer do you have to increase rankings to finally get the traffic you want!

Great WSO!
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OK, I bought...it does have a money-back if I think it's not worth it, but if it is, I won't refund. Always willing to learn in this game.

**EDIT Now I remember why I was hesitant--after purchase I am forced to sign up on a list, then Aweber says my email(s) aren't valid and I can't access...same thing last time I purchased a Munch product.....uggh
so just make a new Yahoo email address
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Thanks for the kind words, and sorry about the issues you had previously with my videos.

Getting the videos in a format that worked on everyone's computer was a little tricky to figure out, but I have since updated them, so if you go back into the members area you can now watch them in your browser, and also download the videos for playback on most devices.
Thanks Chris and you are Welcome

Yea I'll have to check them out now

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I've bought this, was eager to learn new things, but unfortunately I read a very long introduction and 5 tips. For newbies is great, for advanced level not, I know these tips for a few years, so I'm kinda disappointed. Anyway for $8 what to expect.

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Did I miss something? What is PTO, or is it something I have to purchase to know?
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Is he trying to hide something? many people ask what is PTO stand for and the price of the oto, i think its a very simple question to know before buying. and he is not answer that simple question instead he used about 100 words to explain.
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Honest feedback...well I haven't got to the content yet but the webinar is dated December 16th, 2013 and is apparently full
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Chris, is this WSO something uniquely different from Signal Pigeon in its content?
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On 2nd thought I had to revise my review:

First of all I think this wso is very thin. It's ostensibly about what is working in SEO or PTO (People and Traffic Optimization). I don't know if Mr. Munch made the term up or if it's a commonly used term but that's what it stands for.

The basic WSO is a 16 page pdf which has one blank page and one page that is the title page so that leaves 14 pages. Most of that 14 pages is a kind of "report" on what is happening in terms of how SEO is changing as it pertains to Google, that is, Google is looking at different things than they used to in terms of how to rank your site. I will not give any details as giving even a few details seems to lead to getting punished here.

The OTO is Ross Goldberg's Traffic Magnet - the same as the OTO on Mr. Munch's last WSO. Plus this OTO is combined with a step by step blueprint on how best to use Traffic Magnet and an SEO rank finder software and a Traffic Magnet Top 10 list of ways to to customize it for best results.

The price earlier today was $95 for a 5 computer usage of the Traffic Magnet software plus bonuses as above, or $67 for single computer installation plus bonuses.

If you get the software without the bonuses you pay $61 for the 5 computer installation and $47 for single computer usage. If you don't outsource and can get by with just one computer usage then the $47 is a great deal imho.

I have not seen the bonuses that come with it but the Traffic Magnet software by itself is worth buying if you want a way to easily manage submitting articles, videos etc from your desktop in a more efficient way than logging in to each place and submitting them manually one by one. It makes the process quicker/ easier but it's not a bot. Bots are no longer valid imho. Bots are going to get your site punished by Google imho.

It has some other cool features as well and is worth the price of the WSO to have the opportunity to buy the Traffic Magnet in my opinion, and since Ross uses the tool himself you don't have to worry about it not being updated I don't think, and you get lifetime updates free.

All in all the info given in the WSO is a waste of time.

I hated the sales funnel which requires you to go through 1 upsell, one downsell and then another offer, and then still having to give your email address in order to download the pdf.

All in all a waste of money.

There was supposed to be a webinar on Jan 8 but when I signed up it said it was full. Chris, will this be recorded and made available?

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Unread 6th January 2013, 01:34 AM   #63
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Did I miss something? What is PTO, or is it something I have to purchase to know?
It is covered in the report. It is the new direction that SEO is going in, while traditional SEO dies a painful death. The acronym itself is not important, it is the paradigm shift in methods that now work for getting traffic and ranking in Google which is covered in the report. If you don't apply the new way of ranking in Google and getting traffic you will be left behind.

The websites that have been applying the methods covered in the report have been the ones taking the new spots in Google as others are wiped into oblivion.
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Honest feedback...well I haven't got to the content yet but the webinar is dated December 16th, 2013 and is apparently full
Thanks for buying. The bonus webinar will be on January 8,2013. There will be a webinar replay in case you miss it.

I have opened another time slot for the live webinar, since the original one is now maxed out.
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Chris, is this WSO something uniquely different from Signal Pigeon in its content?
Yes, The State of SEO in 2013 is different from the Signal Pigeon.
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There was supposed to be a webinar on Jan 8 but when I signed up it said it was full. Chris, will this be recorded and made available?
Thanks for buying. The bonus webinar will be on January 8,2013. There will be a webinar replay in case you miss it.

I have opened another time slot for the live webinar, since the original one is now maxed out. Just try to register again.
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This was a decent read, I do a lot of social engagement on my sites outside of IM especially this nails it down even further. For me I knew a lot of this already since SEO is my bread and butter (full time) for 5 years now. But for those that need a push in the right direction this a good buy.

It will save tons of time and aggravation because I do see the SEO going this way.

The OTO is decent, just be smart on how you use it and listen to what they teach I just got the software because it consolidates what I already do for the most part.

Since I don't outsource my link building any more I do it all in house this works for me, hopefully it will be supported for a long time, not like fly by night wso's.

So thank you for that it will save me time.

Bottom line its a NO fluff straight to the point report.

Just my honest review .
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Way to go Looks like a great SEO package offer, just grabbed one!
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I've pulled in over 15 million visitors from Google over the years, and reached at least twice that through other traffic sources. That's a conservative estimate as its across several online properties and counting it all up would take a long time.

PTO tactics which are now becoming common, I have been doing for years.
That's what I pull per year with my 3 biggest clients sites altogether but nobody knows my name, I'm not promoting it and I prefer to use several random pseudos wherever I go to be as anonymous as possible.

Anyway, if there's only one and only good idea in this report, it's worth.
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Hey this is such a good product. I learned so much UN-B/S and now have a lot more confidence about moving forward intto the new year.
Thank you so much - Trevor
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Frequently Asked Questions...



Q: I Can't Get Access or Need Help?

Please don't post your support query in the thread. It is very difficult for us to keep up with the thread, and identify customers who need support. The thread is for pre-sales questions and reviews.


If you need help please send me a support ticket.


Q: What Results Should I Expect?

A: Ultimately any results are down to you and how you choose to apply this information.


After going through this report, you'll have a thorough understanding of what we're currently faced with as web entrepreneurs, who often rely on search engine traffic.


Success in the ultra-competitive SEO industry depends on you staying ahead and keeping on the cutting edge.
.. contained in this report is the largest and most current data available to us.

S.O.S. 2013 makes turns this data into actionable information.


Q: Is This Report Just Republishing Industry Surveys?

A:
No....

I've analyzed several major industry studies and mixed this with my own results over the past several years after pulling in over 15 million visitors from Google, to give you a clear overview of the current situation, what the future holds for us, and 5 key action points you need to work on in order to rank and prosper in 2013.


Q: Is there an OTO or Upsell?

A: Yes there are two customer offers . The first is never before seen inbound marketing software to drive traffic to your site. It helps build social proof, develop your brand, create author-rank, and the right type of traffic sending links.


The second customer offer is for software which monitors your website to ensure it is loading for users and is fast.


The prices of the customer offers are highly discounted and revealed after you buy as they are special deals put together for
buyers of the State of SEO report.

The customer offers are not linked to the State of SEO report or necessary in any way to make
information in the State of SEO report work better. Its just a great complementary option if you want to use software to help manage and grow your business. All customer offers are completely optional.


Q: Will This Apply In Any Niche?


A: Yes, absolutely...


The information in S.O.S. 2013 is applicable to any niche, wherever you want to get more Google traffic.



Q: What Does P.T.O stand for?

A: It is covered in the report. It is the new direction that SEO is going in, while traditional SEO dies a painful death. The acronym itself is not important, it is the paradigm shift in methods that now work for getting traffic and ranking in Google. If you don't apply the new way of ranking in Google and getting traffic you will be left behind.

The websites that have been applying the methods covered in the report have been the ones taking the new spots in Google as others are wiped into oblivion.





THANKS FOR THE GREAT FEEDBACK!!!
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I absolutely loved reading this...

Full disclosure I bought this and was not given a review copy.

The data revealed inside this report will be an incredible guide for 2013 for your money getting efforts.

This is a NO - Brainer investment that you'll refer to throughout the year.

I LOVE THIS and you will too.

Yours For Prosperity,

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Why I think any marketer needs to understand the latest SEO trends:

1. Whether you're JSO (just starting out) or the CEO, understanding how to market online is absolutely critical.

2. Connecting with your audience, and finding your ideal customers takes strategy and focus.

3. Adjusting your methods rapidly to produced optimal results must be a commitment.

4. What source references do you use to keep you up-to-date with the latest trends?

Answering these considerations is why I supplement my reading with quality reports like this WSO by Chris Munch.

I highly recommend it.

Jeff
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SEO is continually evolving, Google is doing everything they can to make SEO so hard that people will pay them for clicks...

Chris is one of the few people I know that will only tell you the truth, no hype, no fluff, no garbage. For the price of a happy meal, grab the SEO guide and ensure you don't get left in the dust when Google unleashes their next rabid animal update.
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Bought!! Thanks to Coolice, He take me here!
Glad to learn from respected person like Munch.

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In SEO, When Chris speaks you should listen!
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I find the whole 'debate' about SEO rather intriguing. To me it's obvious that Google and other search engines will always factor in our business.

As marketers keeping on top of that latest SEO trends is vital in my opinion. Easy decision for me to pick this up. Chris has done the research and analysis, so I get to just read
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I had to pick this up as well as the multi site action. My clients are going to love me brotha cus of my new service that you just set up for me..... THANK You! Chris you have put together another killer Munchie Product, your a Genius.You always have your finger on the pulse of Internet Marketing!!

This Gets My "Rock On" Approval!

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Speaking from experience, I have been a long-term customer of Chris Munch and his stuff is solid. His webinars end when the last question is answered and people are never rushed.
His mastermind groups are enforced with taking action.
Using Hook Pigeon, I have scored 4 different contest prizes with JV launches. I am selling far more products from my site, I have had 33 images bring in over 100,000 visitors due to their virality.
Chris' methods have worked religiously everytime I have implemented them, more than what he thinks I should expect.
Unlike most other methods and WSO's, Chris breaths fresh air into his products, he discloses his testing freely, and he knows his stuff inside and out.
I have been in this game for over 10 years and I really listen to very few people, granted there's some amazing ideas from others, however Chris is someone who is more than a person i follow his tools and guides/methods have become tools in my business I couldn't do without.
Chris is a great marketer and you can truly tell he lays things out in a way where you have the greatest possibility of succeeding with whatever method he puts out. The way he structures his stuff make it blatantly obvious he is one of the few who create things because he wants you to succeed.

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Buy Munch's guide, I've already gone through it in an hour and it makes sense. It's worth it, is he going to give you a cookie cutter thing that everyone's going to follow and in turn make it too saturated? No, but it's a really great guide and extremely easy to read. Only took me an hour because I took down notes at the same time.
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Time for some more Munchie pie

Jumped on this little fella as soon as I heard about it ...

I love to learn from the experts and Chrissy boy is right there at the 'One Step Ahead' of the game ..leading us into 2013 with that 'rising in the ranks' feeling

Lovin it !!

Later's ma erstwhile Warrior friends

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As someone who has just entered into the SEO and Social Media Business, keeping myself updated on the latest trends of the field is extremely important to me. And to tell the truth, the report was worth every penny paid for it.
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Chris has done it again! He is always on top of Google. Google Just dont know it LOL. I just bought my copy right now! Excited to read! I recently became a more Paid Traffic Kind Of Guy - Having a SEO background thou I always like to stay on top of the Trends and Chris is the Man for that!!

Ricky
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Who is Chris Munch? An innovative, super intelligent Internet Marketer who strives to be at the Cutting Edge and constantly remains in front of the pack. How does Chris do this...I surely would love to know?

I've bought a ton of stuff from Chris. I'm certainly getting this WSO.

Happy New Year People

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Hey guys,

I think it's worth restating some fundamental WSO-thread rules:

if the discussion is about the product in question, it's ok to post.

If it's anything along the lines "I don't like upsells or OTOs", "I never got my bonus" or "I got too many offers before Xmas", then it's NOT (repeat: NOT) ok to post this in here.

Noone is forcing you to buy anything, neither before Xmas, nor after, I have yet to see a gun pointed at you on the OTO page, and in almost all cases, the OTO complements the main offer, but it's by no means necessary.

As in this case. You can do it by hand, or pick up Chris/Ross' tool to help automate much of the process.

Your choice.

If you like what you see, choose to pick it up (and if you don't like it, you have a refund guarantee).

If you don't like what you see, choose to move on.

have a fabulous 2013!

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Thanks for clear perspective regarding WSO thread rules. Many of us read through the thread to try to learn more about the product features to confirm an educated purchase decision and the negative clamoring is a distraction and waste of our time... Peace...
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Just bought - even the first OTO
(but I was unable to access the second OTO - sent a support ticket)

No, I'll not make a review - You have to view this by yourself.
With the first OTO you have a software that...
Oh well, you need to see the video to believe what you can do with that masterpiece!
I hate myself for not being an affiliate for this WSO launch.
This one could very well be sold by the thousands...

As to post #1 (the sales page of this offer) not to be picky but:
You may read:
"Over 3 Billion Searches Per Day..."
But if you look at the graph the last bar (2012) stands below the 3 (Billions) mark!

Now if I only can get 1/1000th of those searches coming to my sites...
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Basic and quick review: Complete Waste Of Money And Time

Longer Review:
Hey, I knew the pitch here had "Check it out, SUCKER!" written all over it, but I didn't expect it to be this blatant. If you're anything but the most eager and naive beginner in the world, this WSO is a complete insult.

Basically: Some authority building "stats", but no proof of actual results. If you have ever bought any of Chris Munch's stuff before, you've pretty much read this. I read this while sitting on the toilet, for God's sake, and if I had printed it out on paper, I would have flushed it.

Be AWARE: It doesn't look like there's a refund on this "product". I put product in quotes because it looks like Munch put this together in about 5 minutes while having his morning coffee.

AVOID!
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Unread 6th January 2013, 10:57 AM   #75
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This is your opportunity to pay money for another sales pitch for a $100 piece of software that posts articles and does a bit of social monitoring. IMO, there are much better tools available and what is taught is nothing new. Just marketing spin with "PTO". Sorry I don't have a glowing testimonial.
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Are the OTOs' necessary.
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Bought it... been 3 hours. No download link. I got sent to another page that wanted my name and email, I entered it in... still nothing. I submitted a ticket.... still waiting.
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sure can Jamus:

http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...30-2012-a.html

(right at the very top of the WSO section)

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Also 100% sure that having to sign up with an e-mail address to access your purchase is also against WSO rules

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Good question, I to would like too hear where Digi Traffic Generator fits in with this plan.
My personal experience with DTA over the past 6 - 8 months has been very poor. It was performing in decent form prior to that. I have since canceled my agreement and no longer use DTA. Based on all the changes with Google, DTA goes against everything that is happening in regards to high quality content that is now basically required. They days of getting ranked with just some social media related links is way gone.

On another subject but related, I'm also finding that so far all of the outsourced VA's are still stuck in the past regarding SEO and have not for the most part embraced the new regime of what is required to rank a page, so be aware of this fact and choose wisely and expect that you will need to re-train them for the most part......that is if you even really understand what is required now, which I find that most have not invested the time or research to fully comprehend.

On a more positive note, I have found the YT videos continue to rank well, at least in comparison to webpages. Video remains a big traffic driver and we would all do well to make video a major part of our overall marketing efforts. That said, more focus is being put on video content quality so this should be a part of your process, and thankfully can be outsourced pretty easily to fiverr or elsewhere. A good VA that can produce high quality video can be a tremendous asset.

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No offense mate but who are you? I never heard of you, why should we care about what you think?
And why does this only seem to be a warrior forum thing?
Is Google just popping people that install all these little traffic increasing doo-dads?
I generally don't black hat or cheat and my all serps are still continually going up.
Hard to know who to believe these days.
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What da hell does PTO stand for?
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This was a decent read, I do a lot of social engagement on my sites outside of IM especially this nails it down even further. For me I knew a lot of this already since SEO is my bread and butter (full time) for 5 years now. But for those that need a push in the right direction this a good buy.

It will save tons of time and aggravation because I do see the SEO going this way.

The OTO is decent, just be smart on how you use it and listen to what they teach I just got the software because it consolidates what I already do for the most part.

Since I don't outsource my link building any more I do it all in house this works for me, hopefully it will be supported for a long time, not like fly by night wso's.

So thank you for that it will save me time.

Bottom line its a NO fluff straight to the point report.

Just my honest review .
Thanks for the honest detailed review. Great to see another seasoned SEO on board with how things are changing. Best of luck with your business!

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That's what I pull per year with my 3 biggest clients sites altogether but nobody knows my name, I'm not promoting it and I prefer to use several random pseudos wherever I go to be as anonymous as possible.

Anyway, if there's only one and only good idea in this report, it's worth.
Congrats on your success - thats a lot of traffic! And just to clarify the 15 million visitors from Google is to my own web properties - I have previously worked with a client pulling in millions of visitors per month like yourself, but I no longer take clients as I am busy with my own projects and love the freedom of being in control.

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I've bought this, was eager to learn new things, but unfortunately I read a very long introduction and 5 tips. For newbies is great, for advanced level not, I know these tips for a few years. Anyway for $8 what to expect.

Cheers!
Thanks for the honest review Raly. I agree that if you are on the cutting edge of SEO and consider yourself advanced, then you'll know most of this, and should be busy crushing it in Google anyway! Congrats on your success.

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Its really great. Let see what algo will burst from Google.
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Some authority building "stats", but no proof of actual results. If you have ever bought any of Chris Munch's stuff before, you've pretty much read this.

It doesn't look like there's a refund on this "product".
Thanks for the honest review 'asgm'. If you have learned this stuff before from me then great! Although there are a couple of completely new tips I know I have never discussed before.

And yes I did not include proof of results as this is more of an encompassing approach discussing how things are changing, and not a step by step method which I can specifically tag results to.

I agree that if you are on the cutting edge of SEO and consider yourself advanced, then you'll know most of this, and should be busy crushing it in Google anyway! So congrats on your success.

Yes there's a 30 day refund policy. I know its hard when buying online training to know if its right for you, so I'm happy to provide a refund. Just send in a support ticket and we'll get it processed (usually within 24-48 hrs).

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Bought it... been 3 hours. No download link. I got sent to another page that wanted my name and email, I entered it in... still nothing. I submitted a ticket.... still waiting.
Sorry you had trouble getting to the download page. Please allow 24hrs reply to your ticket as you submitted it on a Sunday and be sure to check the helpdesk directly in case the email somehow goes missing.

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My Review (and yes I paid for this WSO) :

This is an absolute MUST READ! Great way to start off 2013.

Recently with all of the Google algo changes its definitely a smart idea to take the advice that Chris teaches in this report and implement it into your website content and traffic building strategies.

This report tells you how its more important to get traffic through other means besides trying to rank higher in Google.

Now with this report (and the awesome software if you decide to purchase) you are able to increase your traffic without even being on Google's 1st page.

Now you can increase traffic while you steadily increase in rankings. No longer do you have to increase rankings to finally get the traffic you want!

Great WSO!
Thanks and glad you liked it!

Q: What Does P.T.O stand for?

A: It is covered in the report. It is the new direction that SEO is going in, while traditional SEO dies a painful death. The acronym itself is really not important, it is the paradigm shift in methods that now work for getting traffic and ranking in Google. The change in approach to traffic and Google IS what is important. If you don't apply the new way of ranking in Google and getting traffic you will be left behind.

The websites that have been applying the methods covered in the report have been the ones taking the new spots in Google as others are wiped into oblivion.

Q: Is there an OTO or Upsell?

A: Yes there are two customer offers. The first is never before seen inbound marketing software to drive traffic to your site. It helps build social proof, develop your brand, create author-rank, and the right type of traffic sending links.


The second customer offer is for software which monitors your website to ensure it is loading for users and is fast.


The prices of the customer offers are highly discounted and revealed after you buy as they are special deals put together for
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after registering for the webinar....it goes to a video...you have to wait 5 minutes after the video for the other content to appear to access the report
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I lost interest when I couldn't figure out what PTO [or P & T ] stood for and even noticed that in your Questions Section that you said that what it stood for was unimportant. Then why use it in your title and expect us to buy it?
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Okay, guys. This is getting ridiculous.

There are rules in this section, and they're pretty clear. Arguing about the sales process, including the rants about the presence or number of "OTOs," is not allowed. If you do that, your post(s) will get deleted.

A few people are in here going off on rants about products they haven't bought. That is also pretty clearly not allowed, per the posted rules.

Arguing about deleted posts, or re-posting deleted comments, is not allowed anywhere in the forum.

None of these rules are new. If you believe that enforcing the posted rules is a sign of some sort of conspiracy, you are welcome to that opinion. Or, you might ask somewhere outside a WSO thread for an explanation of why the rules exist. They really do make sense.

If a seller doesn't answer your question(s), well... they aren't required to, are they? Just as you are not required to buy their products if they choose to ignore your questions.

Paid sales threads are for questions and comments about the products being offered. They are not the place for you to air your feelings about one time offers, or a seller's pricing decisions. That's what the discussion areas are for.


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Really looks like a Presell for the OTOs...especially since the OTO is being pushed in your latest 2(?) WSOs...

And the WSO itself just states the freely available information that the internet is already filled with!

Disappointing!
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A few people seem to think that was meant to shut down legitimate comments. Don't make that mistake, folks.

For instance, 2 people reported the comment from EdwardsEZPC, claiming it was a rant about OTOs. Another person gave her/him an infraction for it, which I have deleted.

Assuming EdwardsEZPC actually bought the product, that was a comment on the content of the thing. Not an argument about OTOs. As such, it is well within the rules for comments from paying customers.

Don't waste our time reporting legitimate posts, unless you want us to start ignoring your reports entirely.


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I'm positive it isn't a legitimate post, despite what you just said.
He expressed his opinion of a product he appears to have bought.

That is a legitimate comment. If he feels the only purpose of the product is to upsell, how is that NOT an opinion on the product? It may or may not be accurate, but it's what he thinks, and that's not for you or I to decide for him.

I'm sure Chris will thank you for prolonging the discussion, further highlighting the negative comment, and derailing his thread in a different direction...


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Edit: This was in response to a comment which has since been deleted by the poster.
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Thanks for clearing up the thread Paul so people can see the real product reviews from genuine buyers (good or bad) and not discussions on other topics.
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Chris,

Wasn't just me. Or even mostly me. We've had 3 or 4 mods jumping into this thread all day. With the confused reports, there's a good chance we've each pulled a post or two that shouldn't have been, and probably left a few that should've been deleted.

It should clear up from here on, though.


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I have bought this and have to say I recommend it to all serious marketers.

However, (also in the interests of balance), I have to say that I concur with the sentiments of philvandermeer's post (#33) and point out that Chris's customer support appears to have some holes in it.

I purchased a high-ticket product ($1,000) promoted by Chris last year. I subsequently had issues with the product which culminated in my being totally unable to access and use the product (a web-based application). My emails and tickets to the products support were totally ignored, so I contacted Chris, as I would have expected him to stand behind the product as it was promoted by him as an affiliate. To be fair he did contact the product developer, but there was still no response, I still had no access the product I'd paid for, and Chris did not seem interested in helping further to resolve the issue or pursue a refund on my behalf from his affiliate partner.

I asked Chris to at least refund his commission on the product in the absence of a full refund from the developer, but I simply never heard back from him or his support staff.

I think Chris is probably probably a victim of his own success and had too many 'more important' issues to deal with at the time - and put this case in the 'too hard basket' ...rather than it being a case of greed or a blatant indifference to his customers, but the consequence for me is that I am still out-of-pocket to the tune of $1000.

I strongly believe that as marketers we ALL have a responsibility to uphold the highest standards of ethics and not shy away from holding our fellow marketers to account.

As an industry, it's time we cleaned up our act and abided by the same ethical standards expected of 'bricks & mortar' business. Otherwise, industry watchdogs and federal authorities will further regulate and make it more and more difficult for all of us to do business on the net.

I have no problem with Chris's own products, and recommend you buy this WSO if you are serious about SEO, but I will be very reluctant to buy any high-ticket products promoted by Chris in future knowing he does not stand behind the products he promotes.

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With people starting to search for a PTO service this is a must for many, great product.
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Just purchased (6DF57411R57562945) and am waiting for the download.
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Can I say that I bought the product and I've been absolutely disappointed to read such useless content ? Unless you'd be the most naive beginner in the world, this WSO is an insult. It's nothing else than a pre-sales pitch for a $ 95 OTO...

Avoid !
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This is your opportunity to pay money for another sales pitch for a $100 piece of software that posts articles and does a bit of social monitoring. IMO, there are much better tools available and what is taught is nothing new. Just marketing spin with "PTO". Sorry I don't have a glowing testimonial.
Agreed. I was coming back here to revise my post where I said the WSO was "worth it".....

Not worth it to me, it's just common knowledge stuff--a report of such--that is just like the quoted poster says, a sales pitch to sell software, etc....even one of the revolutionary tips about speeding up your site was put there.,it seems, to include the link to the Munch's software that shows you how fast your site is.

Munch no doubt knows how to make money, but this WSO and the last one makes it clear that giving value does not seem to be a goal, and that the customers that have helped him make his living are not being respected, IMHO

Refund time.

YMMV,

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Time for some more Munchie pie

Jumped on this little fella as soon as I heard about it ...

I love to learn from the experts and Chrissy boy is right there at the
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..leading us into 2013 with that 'rising in the ranks' feeling

Lovin it !!

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As someone who has just entered into the SEO and Social Media Business, keeping myself updated on the latest trends of the field is extremely important to me. And to tell the truth, the report was worth every penny paid for it.

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Chris has done it again! He is always on top of Google. Google Just dont know it LOL. I just bought my copy right now! Excited to read! I recently became a more Paid Traffic Kind Of Guy - Having a SEO background thou
I always like to stay on top of the Trends and Chris is the Man for that!!

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SEO had changed so much over the past few years, this look great Chris.

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My Review (and yes I paid for this WSO) :

This is an absolute MUST READ! Great way to start off 2013.

Recently with all of the Google algo changes its definitely a smart idea to take the advice that Chris teaches in this report and implement it into your website content and traffic building strategies.

This report tells you how its more important to get traffic through other means besides trying to rank higher in Google.

Now with this report (and the awesome software if you decide to purchase) you are able to increase your traffic without even being on Google's 1st page.

Now you can increase traffic while you steadily increase in rankings. No longer do you have to increase rankings to finally get the traffic you want!

Great WSO!
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This was a decent read, I do a lot of social engagement on my sites outside of IM especially this nails it down even further. For me I knew a lot of this already since SEO is my bread and butter (full time) for 5 years now. But for those that need a push in the right direction this a good buy.

It will save tons of time and aggravation because I do see the SEO going this way.

The OTO is decent, just be smart on how you use it and listen to what they teach I just got the software because it consolidates what I already do for the most part.

Since I don't outsource my link building any more I do it all in house this works for me, hopefully it will be supported for a long time, not like fly by night wso's.

So thank you for that it will save me time.

Bottom line its a NO fluff straight to the point report.

Just my honest review .
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Hey this is such a good product. I learned so much UN-B/S and now have a lot more confidence about moving forward intto the new year.
Thank you so much - Trevor
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Hi Chris, looks great... buying with my next click

Have bought some of your other products and love your stuff

We stopped doing traditional SEO in 2009 when we noticed Google's love for Social, hence we've converted our SEO Clients to Social SEO. Look forward to learning your methods to see what "new" stuff I can implement
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I think its wonderful that only 5 days into the new year someone has already figured out what Google has planned for us for the remaining 360.
LOL, good one
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