What is the Best Country in Web Design Freelancing?

14 years ago

I've had work done in India and Singapore before. Both projects went completely wrong-I would never go east again. I have a very good Romanian guy that I now use when I need to call someone in.

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Elec

Hi Warriors,

I'm looking for someone to hire my web design work. should I hire Indian, Philippines, or should I just go for Romanian guys.
Please share your own experience, I look for web designers that provide high quality designs.

And why should that be a matter of country to get quality design ???

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Elec 14 years ago

Because some countries have great aesthetic sense than others.
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- NetMan 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Elec
  
  Because some countries have great aesthetic sense than others.
  
  Sorry but that is just ridiculous... I'm not saying that you are, but certainly this way of thinking is. That may be a good reason for the price you'd pay but nothing else. You can have something awesome built by anyone in the world... duh!!
  
  Good luck.
  
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Elec

14 years ago

Alan, would you recommend this guy for me...

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AlanGNW 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Elec

Alan, would you recommend this guy for me...

Hi Elec. Sorry, I can't pass on the details as he's in the fortunate position these days that he's to busy to take on new clients, And I'm not sure he'd be for you as he works a relatively specialist area.

What type of projecy is it you are looking for? I may be able to suggest someone else.

If you are outsourcing (this is how I found my guy) I'd suggest putting your project out on one of the various freelance sites there are out there. There are a lot of charlatans (and some who are just plain thieves) about so if you do here's a couple of tip.

1. Thoroughly check out their portfolio and client history via the site
2. Check references
3. Ignore anyone who sends you what is clearly a standard response (ask some direct questions in your brief so you can weed them out easily)
4. Use the freelance sites that work on an escrow system like ScriptLance.com Custom Freelance Programming. Outsource web projects to programmers and designers.
5. Conduct some due diligence as to ID and personal/business information provided
6. If something doesn't feel right about someone just don't do it

Hope this helps!
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- Susan Hope 14 years ago
  
  Also.. there are perfectly great, reasonably priced, reliable web designers right here on the Warrior Forum
  
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Elec

14 years ago

You're absolutely right Andre, there must be good designers in India, but what I meant is that Romanian guys have edge in this area.

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weaveronline

14 years ago

I am sorry Elec , quality of work has nothing to do with the country in which they are living, it depends on the attitude & skill set of the provider.

We do all web designing and development works here , Mail me if you are interested to work with us..Looking forward to hear from you soon!

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jay walters

14 years ago

I know I'm being bias... but a lot of the people in Asian countries have an excellent artistic inner core. Most of the people are right brain creative. There were many options when I was sourcing out for the best place to get designs done (not pitching), but I wasn't looking right under my nose.

I've heard many horror stories from other places in Asia, including the Philippines. However, it's my chosen destination for my web services.

Here's a the bottom line: If you're looking for someone to copy a website, India the place, but you have to very specific with what you want.

If you want creativity - the Philippines is my top choice.. - (Bias implied)

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NetMan 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jay walters

I know I'm being bias...

You are indeed, and again it is a ridiculous way of thinking and I do NOT agree and this is NOT proven either... this kind of discussion, which I believe is the base of rasism, shoudn't even occur as it can quickly derive... it's also a bit like childish discussion like "my father is stronger than yours" ... :rolleyes:

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wordpress

14 years ago

Hello Elec,

From my point of view it does not matter where is from the designer. I think the main concern is good quality web design service with low price. If you get a Design cum Developer with good skills then that will be good.

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pjjimbo

14 years ago

Originally Posted by wordpress

Hello Elec,

From my point of view it does not matter where is from the designer. I think the main concern is good quality web design service with low price. If you get a Design cum Developer with good skills then that will be good.

I think good value is the important thing, as opposed to low price.

But i agree a good designer can come from anywhere. You have to speculate sometimes, and if you strike up a good working relationship, then to me it doesnt matter where they are from

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Elec

14 years ago

Guys, for me I'm just seeking a designer with portfolio I like. All my previous work got me to know that Romanian guys particularly are excellent (simply because all of the Romanian guys I worked with gave me impressive work), but of course I don't mind working with any designer with good portfolio from other countries, be it India, Philippines, or any other country.
But this advantage caught my attention and I just wanted to share it with may be you give me additional experience in your side.

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wordpress 14 years ago

Hello Elec,

I understand your frustration. You can use me. you can visit my website to see some of my jobs. There are a list of more websites i did. If you want to see those i can send you the links.

I can send you details of one of my clients from US so that you can verify with them about me.
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Daniel Rickfold

14 years ago

lol.. wow...
Does it really matter?

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Elec

14 years ago

antipot, please show me your portfolio

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Daniel Rickfold

14 years ago

check my signature, you can find some of my previous work in that post

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by antipot

check my signature, you can find some of my previous work in that post

He he!! There we go!

Antipot, nothing against you personnaly, and you do very nice stuff, fine!

But nothing superiror to the point of saying that this Romanian guy is THE ONE to hire to do web design... period :rolleyes:

All is a matter of taste, really, if you like his work hire him. If you like my work hire me!

Best regards,

Andre Foisy

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Sandycmy

14 years ago

Yep, Net Man you are Bull's eye.

!@ Elec,

First! You should know what you really want clearly !

Then - you'll find the right designer in almost 160 countries!

Elec, You need to pause and read your own thread once again -- a talent is a talent anywhere - You'll find good and bad ones everywhere.

How the heck the country matters !?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by Sandycmy

Yep, Net Man you are Bull's eye.

!@ Elec,

First! You should know what you really want clearly !

Then - you'll find the right designer in almost 160 countries!

Elec, You need to pause and read your own thread once again -- a talent is a talent anywhere - You'll find good and bad ones everywhere.

How the heck the country matters !?

I am agree with you. A talent is talent it does not matter where it is.

-Manish

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BaniB

14 years ago

Really interesting posts.

I've been outsourcing to India, Philippines, Indonesia and Hong Kong even the US for a while now.

The western world follows the Typical web 2.0-esque design, while the Asians countries have their own variation. That's why we don't see their design as adequate.

Indian experience - Very polite people. They work really hard, and they have excellent code. Design however is their weakness.
I recommend you take a look at the freelancers portfolio.

I once had an Indian charging me for a free template he downloaded off of The Pirate Bay.

Philippines: The experienced designers usually have a sense for western web design. That helps a lot if the costumer is American / European.

Development wise: A lot of C++ / C programmers wanting to work for $4 an hour. It's a bargain.
Too bad none of them own Intel based mac. iPhone dev is the new fad!

Indonesia: In my opinion, Indonesia has one of the best web designers.
Really good looking portfolios. They also have experience with e-commerce design, and code.
They are really polite and helpful. Their prices are a bit higher - but you get what you pay for.

Hong kong (China): This is country where finding good programmers and designers takes more time than actually writing and doing the job by itself. But if you actually manage to find the person/team - it's extremely valuable. Excellent Java / C++ / C programmers that are willing to go the extra mile. They have an extreme respect for their bosses (you.)

If your looking for a team of people, you should consider this:

System development from India
Web design from Indonesia
PHP/CSS/HTML - Philippines
SEO / Marketing - China

Hope this helped you!

Best regards,
BaniB

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by BaniB

Really interesting posts.

I've been outsourcing to India, Philippines, Indonesia and Hong Kong even the US for a while now.

The western world follows the Typical web 2.0-esque design, while the Asians countries have their own variation. That's why we don't see their design as adequate.

Indian experience - Very polite people. They work really hard, and they have excellent code. Design however is their weakness.
I recommend you take a look at the freelancers portfolio.

I once had an Indian charging me for a free template he downloaded off of The Pirate Bay.

Philippines: The experienced designers usually have a sense for western web design. That helps a lot if the costumer is American / European.

Development wise: A lot of C++ / C programmers wanting to work for $4 an hour. It's a bargain.
Too bad none of them own Intel based mac. iPhone dev is the new fad!

Indonesia: In my opinion, Indonesia has one of the best web designers.
Really good looking portfolios. They also have experience with e-commerce design, and code.
They are really polite and helpful. Their prices are a bit higher - but you get what you pay for.

Hong kong (China): This is country where finding good programmers and designers takes more time than actually writing and doing the job by itself. But if you actually manage to find the person/team - it's extremely valuable. Excellent Java / C++ / C programmers that are willing to go the extra mile. They have an extreme respect for their bosses (you.)

If your looking for a team of people, you should consider this:

System development from India
Web design from Indonesia
PHP/CSS/HTML - Philippines
SEO / Marketing - China

Hope this helped you!

Best regards,
BaniB

Thanks a lot mate for saying those for Indians. I am an Indian Freelance PHP web developer and my wife is a web Designer. We always provide best service to our clients.

Please check my profile for details.

Please PM me if you i can help you on any of your project.

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by BaniB

Really interesting posts.

I've been outsourcing to India, Philippines, Indonesia and Hong Kong even the US for a while now.

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System development from India
Web design from Indonesia
PHP/CSS/HTML - Philippines
SEO / Marketing - China

Hope this helped you!

Best regards,
BaniB

And what, the rest of the world is dummy??? I can't believe what I hear in here, and such a discussion occurs ...

It helps to identify this!!!

This is all based on the EXPERIENCE of only ONE person. Not proven scientific facts... So this might be true, for you!! It is then still a ridiculous way of thinking (not you personally of course), and I still DO NOT agree with such statement ...

I hope everyone can realize that this would proven facts only if one could align ALL the portfolio of ALL the designers in the world.. otherwise this is a vain discussion and waste of time to generalise like this.

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Andre Foisy

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charmian_piro

14 years ago

2 cents: There isn't any single country or region that has the best in freelance web designers, skill-wise. But there can be huge differences in economics, language fluency and cultural influences from East-to-West.

Savvy clients usually look for the best designer who has solid experience with the target market and the intended audience. It all depends on what you want to achieve.

cp.

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weaveronline

14 years ago

Elec , Please let me know if your requirement still exists , hope u will love the services provided by 'Weaver Technologies'

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jedz

Banned 14 years ago

I suggest Philippines of course.

Philippines is one of the world's most popular outsourcing destinations with some distinct advantages over countries like India and China. In terms of communication skills, and talents we are far more better than other outsourcing providers.

Feel free to check us out..

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by jedz

I suggest Philippines of course.

Philippines is one of the world's most popular outsourcing destinations with some distinct advantages over countries like India and China. In terms of communication skills, and talents we are far more better than other outsourcing providers.

Feel free to check us out..

LOL... another who believes in vapor thoughts...

Best regards,

Andre Foisy

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jonnyrottan 14 years ago

I don’t think that a call can be made as to how good a designer is based on where they come from. I know 2 guys who did the same course together and graduated at the same time. One guy does OK work and the other guy is Awesome! Same home town, same college, same everything.

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Daniel Rickfold

14 years ago

NetMan you did see my work. It IS superior, but my country has nothing to do with it.

NetMan I see you're getting very offended by other people's beliefs. I don't see the point in it. People will believe what they want to believe.

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by antipot

NetMan you did see my work. It IS superior, but my country has nothing to do with it.

NetMan I see you're getting very offended by other people's beliefs. I don't see the point in it. People will believe what they want to believe.

Heu... Yes, I did see your work indeed, and I said it was good. You pointed out someone to you sig uphere and I went to check. This is why I said what I said. Otherwise I woudn't say it.

I'm not offended by other people beliefs at all, I respect all beliefs. However, beliefs and FACTS are two things. Like for example you believe your work is superior, I respect that. However it cannot be put up as a fact because we'll always find something even MORE superior than what you offer. That goes as well for who believes a country can be superior to another for whatever, real facts will always prove the contrary. Plus a web design discussion forum isn't a place to discuss beliefs, what we're discussing is facts. Thank you. No offense at all.

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rolfen

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Rickfold

NetMan you did see my work. It IS superior, but my country has nothing to do with it.

NetMan I see you're getting very offended by other people's beliefs. I don't see the point in it. People will believe what they want to believe.

It's called prejudice.

It's like racism, with the difference that it's not based on race but national affiliation.

It is a sort of discrimination.

Although prejudice and pre-conceptions are sometimes based on real empirical observations, it is unethical and bad practice to base decision upon them, and it is wrong to treat them as a fact or a general truth.

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NetMan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by rolfen

It's called prejudice.

It's like racism, with the difference that it's not based on race but national affiliation.

It is a sort of discrimination.

Although prejudice and pre-conceptions are sometimes based on real empirical observations, it is unethical and bad practice to base decision upon them, and it is wrong to treat them as a fact or a general truth.

lol, wow that's one would call, a "resurrection of a thread"

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GalactekDesign

14 years ago

You have to know a designers skills ask for a lengthy portfolio so you can see all of their capabilities of work so far done. India and phillipines are some of the most diverse countries just need to find the right designers and skills!

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sahildevit

14 years ago

Any Time I would go with India... Indian Are The Best !!!

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wordpress 14 years ago

Originally Posted by sahildevit

Any Time I would go with India... Indian Are The Best !!!

Thanks for your reply.

Here's what makes me different than everybody else. Not only am I competent, not only are my prices reasonable, but my Clients work with me long term. They like having someone dependable they can always count on.
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manishrawat

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Elec

Hi Warriors,

I'm looking for someone to hire my web design work. should I hire Indian, Philippines, or should I just go for Romanian guys.
Please share your own experience, I look for web designers that provide high quality designs.

Creativity and quality is not specific to any geographical region, but yes if you are looking for price competitiveness then Asian region is every individuals/ companies favorite destination.

One more thing which is pivotal while giving your project and that is communication level. Among Asian countries India does have capable workforce with effective communication skills.

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Susan Hope 14 years ago

I am going to defend Andre (netman) on this one - I see why he is getting offended -

So lets put it another way..

If the title of this thread had been this:

"In your experience what are some of the best countries for web design freelancing and why?"

Instead of:

"What is the best country in Web Design Freelancing?"

Then I doubt Andre would have had a problem with it but as it is people's beliefs are being represented as fact in this thread and the very nature of a forum lends itself to some people believing everything they read on it.

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yachi

14 years ago

Well...this one is a tricky question. Anyone with good designing skills can design for you..and that person can be from any Country. Depends on the quality of previous work.

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Iqball

14 years ago

IMHO This thread has been misjudged by some.
It is a fair question by The Alec to get some idea on where to outsource
the talents in IT services, no doubt the main thrusting by small and
medium enterprises and larger companies has been
in India mainly, but moving fairly recently to the Filipines and
the Eastern EU Block.

@The NetMan, i think you are, in the strongest terms, a "Parrot" Sir!!
Hackneyed in his repeating of feelings of offense because quick into judging
this thread started by one of the members of this community.
The trends for outsourcing are mainly in the above countries, so
the talents are there for meritorious services rendered, as proven in the
gearing of Western enterprises outsourcing their operations to these
countries very successfully affirming the emerging and established talents
theres.

Thank you.

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NetMan

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Iqball

IMHO This thread has been misjudged by some.
It is a fair question by The Alec to get some idea on where to outsource
the talents in IT services, no doubt the main thrusting by small and
medium enterprises and larger companies has been
in India mainly, but moving fairly recently to the Filipines and
the Eastern EU Block.

@The NetMan, i think you are, in the strongest terms, a "Parrot" Sir!!
Hackneyed in his repeating of feelings of offense because quick into judging
this thread started by one of the members of this community.
The trends for outsourcing are mainly in the above countries, so
the talents are there for meritorious services rendered, as proven in the
gearing of Western enterprises outsourcing their operations to these
countries very successfully affirming the emerging and established talents
theres.

Thank you.

I still do not agree at all!!! Period. And I'm not offended I just don't agree with this way of seeing things, that's it! I I would shut up if anyone can bring scientific proofs.

The only reason, ONLY reason, why we have these specs about India and Philipines etc., in this matter, is because of the prices they charge compared to the western countries. That's it. By that fact it is natural that outsourcing to those countries has become a trend. You can have good designers everywhere in the world, but what if you can have one that can charge 5 to 10 times less for the same job? ...

That's all I have to say about this! Wake up!

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Andre Foisy

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