I'm confused: Wordpress or static HTML??

13 years ago

Wordpress hands down... cuts time 10 times. + the user friendly interface + awesome plugins (for perfect on site SEO) and MANY MANY MORE!

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unlimitedmarketing

13 years ago

Do you know how to use Dreamweaver, or some other software? If not, then use WordPress. Focus on building your first one, if you "focus" on 10, you may overwhelm yourself. If you are looking for an EASY way to build a customized wordpress blog, check out artisteer, it is AMAZING and has saved me a lot of time.

My first site I made using HTML took me like 3 weeks. ( I have a full time job and a son, and it took forever cause Im still learning dreamweaver). It was cool building my site, but then using artisteer, I have created about an average of 3 to 4 websites per week.

Artisteer is like $50 but is SO EASY to use and they have a trial period so that you can see if you like it first.

I think for speed, convenience, seo, etc, you should build 10 WP sites.

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scott william

13 years ago

Originally Posted by gabby6480

Then I keep hearing Wordpress is all the rage - easy to use, heaps of themes and plugins, fastest way for a newbie etc - so I'm confused.

What should I use to build my 10 static sites?

yup Wordpress more easy to use, heaps of themes and plugins, especially in SEO

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Revenant45

13 years ago

Anyone telling you to use Wordpress to build 10 small static minisites is an idiot. Why the h*ll would you need a database for a minisite? That's just stupid. A minisite just doesn't involve a lot of programming. Nothing but some text, images and a couple of links?

Take a few days and learn some html/css basics. You'll find it very simple..especially for a minisite. If you learn some very basic programming, it will keep you from looking for some stupid wordpress plugin like a crack addict douche every time you want to do or change something on your site.

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xtrapunch

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Revenant45

Anyone telling you to use Wordpress to build 10 small static minisites is an idiot. Why the h*ll would you need a database for a minisite? That's just stupid. A minisite just doesn't involve a lot of programming. Nothing but some text, images and a couple of links?

Take a few days and learn some html/css basics. You'll find it very simple..especially for a minisite. If you learn some very basic programming, it will keep you from looking for some stupid wordpress plugin like a crack addict douche every time you want to do or change something on your site.

Totally disagree. WordPress gives you the convenience and ease.

* Update your site using browsers. No FTP required.
* Easily tweak SEO
* WYSIWYG Editor
* Coding is dangerous, even for experts. One wrong code can mar your design.
* Using caching plugins makes your WordPress minisite behave like static HTML pages.
* If you don't know design and coding, you will create crappy sites. Period.

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SteveJohnson 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Revenant45

...is an idiot. ...That's just stupid.

... some stupid wordpress plugin like a crack addict douche...

You can express your opinion without being insulting or vulgar.
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- dogreene 13 years ago
  
  I use to do a lot of coding with Dreamweaver. If you're comfortable, maybe go with it. But personally, I think WordPress is the way to go. It's easy, fast, you can work on it from any computer, and even do collaborative work on the site.
  And with themes like Optimize Press (sort of a pain, but ok), or ProfitsTheme you can probably point-and-click your way to sites quickly.
  
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Annel

13 years ago

Anyone telling that anyone stupid is stupid itself.
WP gives lots of advantages, including SEO optimizing and helps to keep things simple. Besides creating minisite it's also promoting and optimizing. For 20+ other pages and probably blog posts it's very useful, especially for nubs. Of cause you still need to learn basic HTML and CSS...

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malcarada

13 years ago

Go for HTML sites unless you want to be updating 20 WP sites for ever, Wordpress needs updating a few times every year and if you fail to keep up then your sites could get hacked for running an old version, you don't need WP for a minisite anyways, it is an overkill.

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madmmd

13 years ago

Go for html websies.. you can never be satisfied with the look and the feel of you wordpress site unless you go to theme stylesheet and do some tweaking.. you will have to know css to be able to do that.. so its better to create html websites suiting perfectly to your needs..

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xtrapunch

13 years ago

I have just finished the manual for my Minisite WordPress Theme. Screenshot link in my signature. I guess it's perfect for your need. If you want to give it a try, get in touch with me.

I will give it to you for any price (even $1) that you want, provided you send me review. PM me. Thanks

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Ozwald01

13 years ago

As a newbie myself, I have found Wordpress to be so easy.
You just need to find the Theme that suits your needs.
There are many free and 3rd Party Themes.

As a side note, does anyone know if Google penalizes your site because it is a Wordpress site? I have heard this but would like to know if this is true or not.

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xtrapunch 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Ozwald01

As a side note, does anyone know if Google penalizes your site because it is a Wordpress site? I have heard this but would like to know if this is true or not.

From where did you hear that? As far as I understand, all websites are the same for Google because it is the same HTML that it gets to read. Content is another matter.
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JasonPLochner

13 years ago

Word press is best and easy to work. I always work on word press. Its time saving.

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Patrick

13 years ago

Dont be confused...There are millions of tutorials out there on the internet about Wordpress..Its very easy.. Dont go for HTML sites..You need to know HTML ..and since you are new...dont even spend your time on Dreamweaver, all it does is produces messy codes..

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ronc0011 13 years ago

Everything you see here are valid arguments. For just creating a simple squeeze page or sales page HTML is fine and HTML is not that hard to pick up. On the other hand WP has other advantages mostly to do with SEO. Plus if your site has 10 or 20 pages Wp makes updating the site much easier because it automatically builds your theme across all of your pages so for instance making a menu change doesn't have to be hand coded individually on each page. That kind of stuff can become very tedious very quickly.

Dreamweaver's main advantage is that it helps you build standards compliant code. Although Dreamweaver is a real pain to work with. Frankly Microsoft's Visual Studio Express is a far better editor and it's free. Using something like VS to build your code in before you paste it into Wordpress is very helpful because it error checks your code as you type it and also validates it for W3s compliance. Another advantage to using something like VS is that it color codes all of your code making it quicker and easier to learn HTML.
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richrajeevkistoo 13 years ago

Go for wordpress, you will do yourself a favor.

You will find a plugin for every need, tracking, google webmaster tools, seo, membership and even free tutorials for everything on the web.

I have built over 100 sites, never needed to learn html.

check wordpressprofitsystems.com

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Revenant45

13 years ago

Originally Posted by schwarzes

Dont go for HTML sites..You need to know HTML ..dont even spend your time on Dreamweaver, all it does is produces messy codes..

I'm sorry but this is just plain WRONG. This was true about Dreamweaver maybe 6-7 years ago. For some reason (mainly for people that's never even used a current version or even at all) it still holds this stigma.

I've used Dreamweaver for a very long time and if you actually take the time to learn it and its extensive features its the best html editor on the market. There is a reason that Dreamweaver is the industry standard... it darn sure isn't wordpress. Make no mistake, Dreamweaver is the best but it is not noob friendly, you have to learn it just like any other tool.

Telling someone to "not go for html sites" is the worst advice I've seen on these forums and then tell them to know it? really?

Wordpress is for people that just don't want to learn proper coding, no time to learn, or want a site that looks like all the other 4,676,659 wordpress sites out there..guess what..themes are finite in number.

I know plenty of web design/developer professionals.. NOT ONE real professional ever.. and I mean EVER... recommends wordpress for anything besides a blog.

Hopefully this post didn't 'offend' anyone.

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L41db4ck

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Revenant45

Wordpress is for people that just don't want to learn proper coding, no time to learn, or want a site that looks like all the other 4,676,659 wordpress sites out there..guess what..themes are finite in number.

Wordpress *may be* for people that just don't want to learn proper coding, no time to learn, or want a site that looks like all the other 4,676,659 wordpress sites out there..*but* guess what..themes are *not* finite in number *if you learn proper coding*(as you put it). :p

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SteveJohnson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Revenant45

I'm sorry but this is just plain WRONG. This was true about Dreamweaver maybe 6-7 years ago. For some reason (mainly for people that's never even used a current version or even at all) it still holds this stigma.

I've used Dreamweaver for a very long time and if you actually take the time to learn it and its extensive features its the best html editor on the market. There is a reason that Dreamweaver is the industry standard... it darn sure isn't wordpress. Make no mistake, Dreamweaver is the best but it is not noob friendly, you have to learn it just like any other tool.

Telling someone to "not go for html sites" is the worst advice I've seen on these forums and then tell them to know it? really?

Wordpress is for people that just don't want to learn proper coding, no time to learn, or want a site that looks like all the other 4,676,659 wordpress sites out there..guess what..themes are finite in number.

I know plenty of web design/developer professionals.. NOT ONE real professional ever.. and I mean EVER... recommends wordpress for anything besides a blog.

Hopefully this post didn't 'offend' anyone.

I don't think that's what you hope for at all.

I know plenty of professionals that would do a site with WP if that's what best fits the clients needs. I'm one of them.

I have used DW since version 3 - still have the floppies. CS4 is not much better than MX2004 for producing bloated code, unnecessary javascript, and idiotic PHP. If you don't know HTML and don't want to learn, if you don't know how to do CSS rollovers and sprites, don't know the difference between classes and ids, don't know what specificity is, and you need your hand held to accomplish anything with PHP, then DW is the way to go, for sure.

You're walking a fine line between being emphatic and being insulting to people who don't share your opinion. It's probably best not to cross too far over if you want to garner any respect in the WF.

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Happy_Balance

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

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I have used DW since version 3 - still have the floppies. CS4 is not much better than MX2004 for producing bloated code, unnecessary javascript, and idiotic PHP. If you don't know HTML and don't want to learn, if you don't know how to do CSS rollovers and sprites, don't know the difference between classes and ids, don't know what specificity is...

I first used Macromedia DW in 1999-2000.ish, whatever version that was.
Eventually I broke the 'addiction' and now I only occasionally start it up.

Why still use it / do you?

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fergsi 13 years ago

Wordpress! Way to Go!
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SteveJohnson

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Happy_Balance

I first used Macromedia DW in 1999-2000.ish, whatever version that was.
Eventually I broke the 'addiction' and now I only occasionally start it up.

Why still use it / do you?

I guess what I meant by 'have used' is that I'm no stranger to DW.

99/00 would have been right around v3, maybe 2, don't actually remember what YEAR it was

I think I started up CS4 so I was sure that it was installed correctly, I don't think I've used it since.

Take that back. Had to fix a client site that was being administered by Contribute CS3. Think that's the only time I've started it up to actually use it.

MX2004 was the last version I actually made use of. Even then, I used it mainly for site management and the find/replace across multiple files that I didn't have another app for at the time, and for the hundreds of code snippets I had stored.

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Happy_Balance

13 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

I guess what I meant by 'have used' is that I'm no stranger to DW.

99/00 would have been right around v3, maybe 2, don't actually remember what YEAR it was

I think I started up CS4 so I was sure that it was installed correctly, I don't think I've used it since.

Take that back. Had to fix a client site that was being administered by Contribute CS3. Think that's the only time I've started it up to actually use it.

MX2004 was the last version I actually made use of. Even then, I used it mainly for site management and the find/replace across multiple files that I didn't have another app for at the time, and for the hundreds of code snippets I had stored.

find/replace across multiple files = Exactly for me also. Even after no longer using it for design, the find/replace still came in handy.

I'll always like the name DreamWeaver

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Ken Durham

13 years ago

WP might be a bit of an overkill, but it works. The code isn't as clean as DIY, but the time involved is less. And you can make a website out of WP and not have it look like a blog. But it does take knowledge, just like creating static sites do.

If you're new I would suggest doing a little learning, even if you outsource you will have a clue what is being discussed before hiring.

Anything you need to learn to begin is here: HTML Tutorial

Good luck to you and thanks for not calling anyone stupid. Not a very good way to make friends or acquaintances

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Leanne King

13 years ago

If you are new to website building then hands down wordpress, simple to use, loads of themes and plugins to choose from, no code knowledge required.

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sixpack01

13 years ago

WordPress is an amazing tool. It saves me hundreds of working hours, with its automations. Use it. But use it with caution. Do not overload it. If you keep it simple, if you choose a simple theme from one of the top marketplaces, if you keep your content unique and organized, then you have a great, optimized website without the cons mentioned above.

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SundayForever

13 years ago

Search the internet and try more and you will solve your problem! I think you can deal with it! Go go!

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wannabeme

13 years ago

In your case,static HTML is better,I think
Setting up a wordpress site can be time consuming

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haymanpl

13 years ago

WordPress is free dude!

You can create as many sites on one hosting account as you like and install wordpress with one click the add the content. Depends on which host you use of course. You can also easily create a static site with wordpress by turning off posts

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BalaCrazy

13 years ago

Wordpress is D best !

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websitesdesigning

13 years ago

My Dear Friend , I am Website Designer For the Last 7 Year's.I read your Problme and if you Don't mind i recomend you Use Word press , Beac it has Very Robust Features , which you will never find any where , bec it is FREE.

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yougpeter

13 years ago

I say WordPress because lets say Google Loves WordPress.

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opiz2012

13 years ago

It with WordPress, this convenient, simple, time-saving.

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sidharthbanyal

13 years ago

Wordpress is best. It safes your time and you can customize your website later

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13 years ago

Wordpress.

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lazyfrog

13 years ago

I would say use both. Then see if you can manage with any particular one.
Then after some split testing use the one you are comfortable.
I use both, but don't know about you.
So try them out, both are free.

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johnybravo

13 years ago

well using wordpress would be a better option...you can code html and css in that...but the main thing is the simplicity and ease of work, that everyone wants to have.

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Blaine Moore

13 years ago

For 1-3 page websites, either will work fine.
For 4 or more pages, I'd go with wordpress.

For multiple sites that are 1-3 pages, then wordpress can be a good idea, but you have to do 1 of 2 things to manage them:

1. Keep a list of the sites so when a security update is released you can update them all at once.

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2. Use multi-site mode to manage all your sites within one wordpress installation.

Generally speaking, I'd recommend using multi-site mode to manage all your sites (or at least keeping them grouped topically.) When there's an update, you just go to your multi-site update page and they're all updated at once, and when you want a new site it's just a matter of defining it and setting up a few pages (and if you have your themes already uploaded you just pick a theme, no need to upload more.)

The disadvantage with multi-site mode is that it is more difficult to sell individual sites. It isn't a problem if you are selling a group of sites but if you only want to sell one it can be more work to transfer it. (The other disadvantage is that it takes a little work to set up but that can be outsourced very easily.)

Personally, I use a 1 wordpress install per website method and just have an HTML file that I add a link directly to the upgrade page each time I create a new site (alternatively, you could use a bookmark folder.) Then it's easy to open the upgrade pages all at once, click the upgrade button, etc, and I can outsource that to my VA whenever an update comes out. (Between fantastico to install and WPTwin to set up all my defaults, a new website only takes a few minutes to get put in place.)

I also use a HostGator reseller account to put each site on it's own CPanel account, that saves me from having to move files if I sell a site. I just set a custom username and password for whoever I'm selling the site to, hand that over, and give them a month or two to either move their hosting or decide to stay with me hosting it and then I charge them $20/month and get some recurring income that covers my reseller account costs.

If I wasn't going the separate CPanel account method, though, I'd definitely just use the networked blog method. I set one up for a friend of mine that puts on road races, and he just sets up a new site for each race and only has to worry about 1 login to manage his races. Much easier that way.

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opencreativs

13 years ago

i would recommend having html/css based sites.. cause wordpress will take long time to setup, update and to design a theme when compaired to simple html/css sites

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Joe Mobley 13 years ago

I would recommend outsourcing the FIRST of the ten sites. Either WP or HTML, whatever your contractor likes.

Outsource the 9 other sites based on your new design.

This thread is over a week old. Have you made any decisions yet?

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kmmr12

13 years ago

I think WP is best especially for newbies because WP does all the heavy lifting for you. It is easy to configure. You can have WP site up is 30 mins to and hour depending on want you want it to with it