Please Recommend Webdesign Editor "I" Can Use!

by LastWarrior 17 replies
Hello,

I'm looking for a web design editor I can learn to use. Right
now I use mainly FrontPage '03 & NVU. I first got involved with FP
because my web designer was using it and I wanted to get it too
so I can edit on my own, instead of hiring him to do it.

I do believe I won't need something to do fancy things with. I like
to build simple sites that look decent, are easy to navigate and down
load fast.

I like using WYSIWYG editors and was hoping there's something
similar that I can use... unless of course you recommend something
I'll just have to learn all over. I don't want something so simple that
it will be lacking many features. I don't use PHP and don't know a
thing about CSS except to spell it, no kidding. HTML is my goal. I
recently learned using tables is voodoo, so let's stay clear of that.

In your reply, I'd appreciate it if you can keep your lingo in layman's
terms so this country boy can keep up with what you are sayin'.

I'm hoping to get some good feedback because buying, then learning
something is all good, but if I have to abandon it to start something
else, costs time and money. I'd like to get something that will serve
my needs for a few years anyway. My interest level in acquiring
new software? About a 9.5 on a 10 scale!

Here's to my success!... and yours too of course. :p

LastWarrior
#website design #editor #recommend #webdesign
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  • Profile picture of the author jlandells
    Check out the "90 second website builder". I LOVE to get into code, but I've yet to find anything that allows you to create a truly flexible website in as little time and with so little reliance on HTML knowledge as this product. I actually bought it for my wife to use (she's not technical) although it's still easier for her to ask me to do it....!

    Hope this helps!

    Kind regards,
    -John.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Hello John, Thanks for your reply. I quickly checked it out and it
      looks cool. A few years ago I was looking for something like that.
      Right now I'm not sure about it. There must be limitations there
      that will come up and I don't have much confidence it. I'm thinking
      at only $70-$80, if I only spent a little more, I'll get more sort of
      thinking. And I never heard of it before... or maybe did and was
      curious enough. I can see it working for several others though and
      I think it fills my definition, but I should explain further. Thank you!

      =================================

      Ok, here's more info to share to help you come up with a recommen-
      dation...

      I was thinking of getting something I recognize or heard of before.
      Things like Dreamweaver CS5, CoffeeCup, MS Expression Studio 4, Intuit
      and WebEasy 8.

      I know NOTHING of those programs. I have not tried them, down-
      loaded their trial version or even checked them out. From what I've
      quickly read, DW is a bit spendy compared to others, then I looked
      and saw it's only from $119 to $349... with several in the low $100
      range, so that's not a problem.

      I shouldn't have said "simple" in what I design or would like to get. If
      there's some good effort involved in learning a new program, I'm up
      for it.

      Here is a list of some of the things I will/may have in a website:
      • eMail management forms and code (aWeber?)(Optin Boxes)
      • Camtasia or Camtasia-like videos
      • Powerpoint through Camtasia, etc
      • mp3, mp4, Realplayer vid's, (We'll just say videos)
      • Possible integration of shopping carts and/or PayPal
      • Customer support ticket forms
      • Scripts (most likely having php involved)
      • Split testing scripts
      If you have any recommendations, I would be most happy! Right
      now it's frustrating because there are many to choose from. When
      I do get new software, it will have to be able to handle what I've
      listed above.

      LastWarrior
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  • Profile picture of the author ButterflyGarden
    I would recommend Dreamweaver, if you don't want to spend the money the closest alternative is WebExpress.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vanfenix
      Hey Man -

      So you want something with lots of functionality?

      I told you that I design websites - I use my own engine that is very user friendly.

      This is a LONG post, and I'm sorry,, But I'm dying to show this off to people and get some feedback / reviews.

      Here's the features of my engine. And yes - It is VERY user friendly. Most features are drag and drop!

      The other cool thing is that instead of key-wording your site, you can keyword specific pages.

      Secure Dynamic Login Interface
      Full Facebook on site integration.
      Ten image gallery types.
      The ability to organize images into "sets" and display specific sets within your pages.
      Unlimited individually SEO'd Pages
      Full Advertising Capabilities for your banner ads.
      Complete Web 2.0 Forums System integrated within your website.
      Abweber "like" system for mass mailing your clients.
      Multiple Data Feeds
      Create web forms with a few clicks - Form submissions are stored in a database so you can view and export these as a CSV. Or have them emailed to you.
      Youtube Integration Built in.
      News, RSS Feeds, and outgoing RSS so that your visitors can view your news on a variety of different platforms (ipods, etc)
      Interactive Google Map that allows you to add Balloons or other points of interest on your map.
      Facebook "like" button on each page to increase exposure of your site to their Facebook friends without leaving your site.
      Twitter Feed importing latest tweets from your Twitter account directly into your website. - Great for snippets and encourages your social media campaign.
      surveys - Get feedback from visitors from a simple poll-style survey
      Comments - Add comments to articles and news posts to gain social feedback from visitors You control the publishing process with a moderated or unmoderated approach for maximum flexibility and control. This features also adds fres new content to your website which the Search engines will crawl indefinitely.
      Flash or Java based slideshow features, there are technical advantages to using either Javascript or flash (both are included) but I recommend Javascript due to search engine friendliness.
      Ipod Image Flow (Ipod applet developed to allow images with content through the Apple ipod device.
      Image slider - similiar to a slideshow, however created specifically for you're design to promote specials.
      The same system is used on Dell's website to promote specials and deals.
      Calendar - share details of upcoming events with your visitors, - add multiple events per page and add an agenda. - Excellent for posting information and keeping the forums clean.
      Embed PDF's as a link quickly and easily, embed a PDF document directly into your site, Ideal for brochures, diagrams, etc. (module adapted from "Scribd")
      Expandable content navigation and Tabbed content, many display options such as fading or sliding are available within your engine.
      Page ear - an effect to attract attention to a focused message without distracting from the rest of the website.
      Squeeze page creation - Turn any section or page into a Squeeze page effectively.


      These websites were created using my engine.


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      All of the above sites were done on the engine, and all sites are WEB 2.0. This is what you want.

      To be more precise, it'll clarify: the term Web 2.0 has been co-opted for nearsighted purposes that fail to realize the potential of the original concept's vision. In my experience, I've seen a lot of marketing applications that are merely incremental improvement over existing campaign tactics. That's why it's time to transform over to web 2.0. In english - It allows us to upgrade technology in real time.

      Web 2.0 offers RIA which is Rich Internet Applications. What this does is allow us to bring the experience from the desktop to the browser.
      Drag and drop, etc. It also allows us to do SOA - Service Orientated Architectures. such as Web Services and Mash ups.

      What we do is we expose functionalities to other functionalities to create more powerful social web applets for your site.

      What we do is we make users Participants of your website, as opposed to Visitors,
      The end user is an Intrical part of the data of said application providing feedback and allowing the application leverage to the users using it.

      Web 2.0 also allows us to easily apply features, deploy features and update new things as they are developed.

      With regards to posting offers, that is an excellent system. What you can do is integrate Facebook into the offers themselves thus opening the doors of facebook to you. Users can login to facebook directly on you're website and post comments that they can then share to their friends. This is just one example of many. Once we start business, we'll see what you're after and find out the best methodologies to get from where we are to where you want to be.

      You can then have the website interact with facebook, post products / services / offers, etc, and have interested fans come in and complete them. You simply offer a small incentive to you're users to "like" you're fan page. You can also setup affiliate links and offer an "invite a friend" rewards program if you choose.

      The options and functionalities with Web2.0 in regard to your offers are almost limitless.


      Anyways - if you wanted to checkout my engine - you said you liked Wysiwig editors - well, once you see this, you won't go back to anything else. Wordpress can't hold a candle to my engine.

      Let me know if you'd like a tour - I can do it via skype if you like. Just drop me a PM.

      I charge $26 a month - everything included. It even comes with Cpanel!

      my skypeid is websiteme.ca

      Looking forward to hearing from whoever is interested. Would love some feedback on the system!
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      If you need a website, something cool, slick, and affordable - something with built in aweber, hosting included, extremely easy to use. Unlimited pages, Drag and drop functionality. E-mail me. vanfenix1 at gmail.com. || I'll set you up a site for 15 days to test out || Squeeze pages? no problem. Lightweight E-commerce? easy as pie. My Websites are not like you've ever seen. Try it today FREE!

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      • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
        Thank you for the additional replies.

        I'm also interested in a product that has a solid history behind it
        along with good support. Some prod's even have a forum where
        support is not only offered by staff, but by getting feedback from
        other users. Phone support would be expected, but chat during
        business hours or 24hr. chat a plus.

        These are necessary.

        As for price, I'm not very concerned, as Camtasia and Photoshop
        don't come for free either, so I consider this an investment.

        Thanks.

        LastWarrior
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      • Profile picture of the author iAmNameLess
        Originally Posted by Vanfenix View Post

        Hey Man -

        So you want something with lots of functionality?

        I told you that I design websites - I use my own engine that is very user friendly.

        This is a LONG post, and I'm sorry,, But I'm dying to show this off to people and get some feedback / reviews.

        Here's the features of my engine. And yes - It is VERY user friendly. Most features are drag and drop!

        The other cool thing is that instead of key-wording your site, you can keyword specific pages.

        Secure Dynamic Login Interface
        Full Facebook on site integration.
        Ten image gallery types.
        The ability to organize images into "sets" and display specific sets within your pages.
        Unlimited individually SEO'd Pages
        Full Advertising Capabilities for your banner ads.
        Complete Web 2.0 Forums System integrated within your website.
        Abweber "like" system for mass mailing your clients.
        Multiple Data Feeds
        Create web forms with a few clicks - Form submissions are stored in a database so you can view and export these as a CSV. Or have them emailed to you.
        Youtube Integration Built in.
        News, RSS Feeds, and outgoing RSS so that your visitors can view your news on a variety of different platforms (ipods, etc)
        Interactive Google Map that allows you to add Balloons or other points of interest on your map.
        Facebook "like" button on each page to increase exposure of your site to their Facebook friends without leaving your site.
        Twitter Feed importing latest tweets from your Twitter account directly into your website. - Great for snippets and encourages your social media campaign.
        surveys - Get feedback from visitors from a simple poll-style survey
        Comments - Add comments to articles and news posts to gain social feedback from visitors You control the publishing process with a moderated or unmoderated approach for maximum flexibility and control. This features also adds fres new content to your website which the Search engines will crawl indefinitely.
        Flash or Java based slideshow features, there are technical advantages to using either Javascript or flash (both are included) but I recommend Javascript due to search engine friendliness.
        Ipod Image Flow (Ipod applet developed to allow images with content through the Apple ipod device.
        Image slider - similiar to a slideshow, however created specifically for you're design to promote specials.
        The same system is used on Dell's website to promote specials and deals.
        Calendar - share details of upcoming events with your visitors, - add multiple events per page and add an agenda. - Excellent for posting information and keeping the forums clean.
        Embed PDF's as a link quickly and easily, embed a PDF document directly into your site, Ideal for brochures, diagrams, etc. (module adapted from "Scribd")
        Expandable content navigation and Tabbed content, many display options such as fading or sliding are available within your engine.
        Page ear - an effect to attract attention to a focused message without distracting from the rest of the website.
        Squeeze page creation - Turn any section or page into a Squeeze page effectively.


        These websites were created using my engine.


        Potawatomi Bingo Casino
        News
        1260 Patio Bistro Bar :: Home

        Hoyt Arboretum :: Home
        Manhattan Comedy School : Learn stand up comedy at NYC's premier comedy school
        Silk handbags, purses, scarves, jewellery and fashion accessories.
        Home | Réservoir T




        All of the above sites were done on the engine, and all sites are WEB 2.0. This is what you want.

        To be more precise, it'll clarify: the term Web 2.0 has been co-opted for nearsighted purposes that fail to realize the potential of the original concept's vision. In my experience, I've seen a lot of marketing applications that are merely incremental improvement over existing campaign tactics. That's why it's time to transform over to web 2.0. In english - It allows us to upgrade technology in real time.

        Web 2.0 offers RIA which is Rich Internet Applications. What this does is allow us to bring the experience from the desktop to the browser.
        Drag and drop, etc. It also allows us to do SOA - Service Orientated Architectures. such as Web Services and Mash ups.

        What we do is we expose functionalities to other functionalities to create more powerful social web applets for your site.

        What we do is we make users Participants of your website, as opposed to Visitors,
        The end user is an Intrical part of the data of said application providing feedback and allowing the application leverage to the users using it.

        Web 2.0 also allows us to easily apply features, deploy features and update new things as they are developed.

        With regards to posting offers, that is an excellent system. What you can do is integrate Facebook into the offers themselves thus opening the doors of facebook to you. Users can login to facebook directly on you're website and post comments that they can then share to their friends. This is just one example of many. Once we start business, we'll see what you're after and find out the best methodologies to get from where we are to where you want to be.

        You can then have the website interact with facebook, post products / services / offers, etc, and have interested fans come in and complete them. You simply offer a small incentive to you're users to "like" you're fan page. You can also setup affiliate links and offer an "invite a friend" rewards program if you choose.

        The options and functionalities with Web2.0 in regard to your offers are almost limitless.


        Anyways - if you wanted to checkout my engine - you said you liked Wysiwig editors - well, once you see this, you won't go back to anything else. Wordpress can't hold a candle to my engine.

        Let me know if you'd like a tour - I can do it via skype if you like. Just drop me a PM.

        I charge $26 a month - everything included. It even comes with Cpanel!

        my skypeid is websiteme.ca

        Looking forward to hearing from whoever is interested. Would love some feedback on the system!
        YOUR engine, right? So you are the owner of the concrete CMS? LOL, I don't think so. Wordpress gets blown out of the water by many CMS's, I wouldn't think concrete could hold up with drupal... probably surpasses joomla on some levels.
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        • Profile picture of the author infinatecashflow
          Dreamweaver is the best although not the easiest at first but you can teach yourself, pop down to youtube their are loads of tutorials for beginners, i actually learned some neat stuff from youtube tutorials.

          I have never ever been taught how to do webdesign learned on my own and you can too.
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  • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
    There's many ways to learn about things. YouTube in only on facet of my
    options, but I use that for sure. I have hundreds of YouTube Favorites
    saved up on a variety of topics, including webdesign and how to... well, I
    better not mention. ;-)

    Thanks for the tip about Dreamweaver.

    LastWarrior
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  • Profile picture of the author iuditg
    Notepad++ along with mozilla firefox
    Also make sure you install web developers toolbar by chris pederick
    Web Developer

    Those are best free alternatives.

    If you can afford dreamweaver, then go for that.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jane Newman
      As you've already used FrontPage, have you considered moving to Microsoft Expression Web ?

      I was a FrontPage user and found the move across to EW simple enough and everything felt and looked familiar.

      EW also has a WYSIWYG editor too, just like in FP.

      I know people say Dreamweaver is the way to go but if you are anything like me and you've got used to FP, you'll find EW quite easy to get into.

      I like EW that much, I'm now on EW4.

      And for websites I won't to throw together in a hurry, I also use Serif WebPlus which is much cheaper.
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      • Profile picture of the author infinatecashflow
        Your welcome, i used to use Frontpage and still love it, but the fact to the matter is it is so limited in certain functions.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneyerr
    In my opinion, Macromedia dreamweaver is a very good software for designing websites. By using its wonderful features an expert web developer can really create a master piece to attract the visitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author Spongey
      I use WebEasy 8 Professional. It is, as it implies, easy. It is also cheap. I bought the store version at BestBuy for something like $38.00. It came with a book which has most of what you need to know. They have tech support, although they tend to want to only answer questions regarding the functionality of the software. There is another website called "softcity" where you can post questions about it. There is also a downloadable version. Very easy learning curve. Down-side is that you must build your websites on your computer, and clients can't log on with user name and password to make changes themselves (unless you give them direct access to your computer--not wise). I am now looking for something like it that is cloud-based , so that my clients can log on and make changes themselves. Good luck!
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  • For quick coding, I use Notepad++. It's free, no-frills, and you can code in just about any language with it. The caveat is that you have to know how to code. No WYSIWYG here.

    By the way, if your doing sites for business, stay away from the WYSIWYG editors. The HTML output is typically difficult to maintain, a lot of times they do things in ways you may not agree with, they can completely mess up existing pages because they can't handle code in the page, or they are polluted with dead or irrelevant code.

    What I typically use for my big jobs is Hot Dog Professional by Sausage Software, but I'm not even sure if they make it anymore. lol. Most programmers laugh at me when I tell them that, but it has worked very well for me for 10 years now, and the price is waaaaay cheaper than any of the other big name editors.

    For entire sites, and if money is not an issue, I would highly recommend Dreamweaver. There is a definite learning curve with it (as with any Adobe product), but it's a very powerful piece of software with TONS of features, and they are designed to work seamlessly with other Adobe products such as Photoshop and inDesign. Anything made by Adobe is worth every penny, and you'll find lots of support and tutorials on the net, as well.

    I think one thing that makes people nervous about Adobe products is that they open the software and there are thousands of options to choose from, and then they get a bit intimidated. But most experienced users would agree that you will probably never use even half of the features. It is always nice to have them available, though, just in case.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      Hello People!

      I almost forgot about this post and I see others have jumped in and helped me with additional advice!

      I did learn, the hard way, about some wysiwyg editors messing with existing code.

      I do have Expression Web 4 on trial basis and I will be getting that. I also have Komposer and just recently got Notepad2 for the CSS part of it.

      And I did dump FrontPage! I may need it for something simple, but from now on, I'm forcing myself to learn MS Express. 4. I know this question must have been asked many time prior, but I didn't have much luck using the search to find them and getting fresh ideas and opinions was something I was looking for anyway.

      Thank you all for helping me with the advice, etc. It's a good feeling to know there's a place to go when good ideas are needed!

      Take care everybody!

      LastWarrior
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  • Profile picture of the author seotechnician
    Please don't use FrontPage '03 to design websites! Eeks! lol.

    I would recommend learning Wordpress and editing it to fit your website design needs. It is easy software to learn and it will be around for years to come.
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