Learning web coding, still worth doing?

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Let's get to the point, there is a lot of competition in this field and it only seems to grow everyday. It's getting especially harder to make money with web development coz of people from India, Philippines etc doing good work for cheap.

I have an interest in learning HMTL CSS Javascript etc and do some cool stuff with it but will it really be worth my effort these days?

Just asking from some advice if this would be a wise direction to go for and study some on in regard to the future?

Any thoughts on this?

Thanks,
Chuck
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  • Profile picture of the author ALicenseToCode
    If you want to make money on the internet you really need to have a solid grasp of HTML, CSS, and Javascript. You should also have at least a cursory knowledge of PHP and MySQL.

    You don't just need to know it so you can perform simple tasks on your own without relying on other people, but to be able to inspect the work other people do for you. It really helps when you think of something that you'd like to try that you can just go and try it instead of having to spend money or wait on another person.

    You don't need to be an expert but you need knowing enough to get what you want is really the best way to go.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Stephens
      Yes, knowing the basics helps, but by no means is it necessary.
      With platforms such as freelancer and odesk, you can save a lot of time by paying someone to do your coding for you. And there are tons of freelancers who work for really cheap rates, and you can see their reviews to make sure they provide quality work.

      Originally Posted by ALicenseToCode View Post

      If you want to make money on the internet you really need to have a solid grasp of HTML, CSS, and Javascript. You should also have at least a cursory knowledge of PHP and MySQL.

      You don't just need to know it so you can perform simple tasks on your own without relying on other people, but to be able to inspect the work other people do for you. It really helps when you think of something that you'd like to try that you can just go and try it instead of having to spend money or wait on another person.

      You don't need to be an expert but you need knowing enough to get what you want is really the best way to go.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebsiteBegin
    I'll put it this way - the web isn't going anywhere any time soon. Websites are becoming more and more integrated with our daily lives, and it's a solid field to get into. I don't regret getting into it some years back for a second. I learned and got a solid grasp of HTML in a weekend, then took hold of CSS the following week.

    Even if you don't work for a web-design-agency, creating themes and selling them can result in large profits. Look at ElegantThemes, Thesis, Headway, WooThemes, Genesis, etc. etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Niks24
    Increase og Website Designs and development its worth learning web coding,but make sure you got your basics strong then move ahead with the upgraded part of coding and new platforms.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaasmit
    Why not if you can provide some different features or different looks then you obviously can do work with this languages.
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  • Profile picture of the author thelearningman
    Chuck,

    You're absolutely correct to be worried about learning these types of technologies because of global competition. Moreover, sites like Wordpress, Facebook, Notemote ... are replacing the websites of many individuals/organizations. If you're intent on learning this info, consider developing a tool that a lot of people can employ i.e. a javascript scriptlet; you'll have a lot more success.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronc0011
    You might do a search on monster or Careerbuilder for ASP / C# or possibly Sharepoint. I think you should consider that the web coding isn't confined just to HTML/CSS an PHP.
    There are areas where the pay is really good and the demand is quite high. Consider that most large multinational companies run systems that are Mirosoft.
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  • Profile picture of the author copilu0
    Either if you plan to learn for you and for your business or just to check your employers (if you have) all the programming languages are still very good to learn.Everything you learn can help you some day.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest
    Yes, absolutely. I've worked as a professional web designer for the past 8 years and the amount of work that is currently out there is overwhelming. Don't let people charging lower rates scare you off. Learning a true server side programming language opens you up to even more options.

    At the very least, get a good overview of a few different languages. You don't have to master them, but being familiar will give you a good edge as a business owner. The clients I have who have solid technical CEOs almost always seem to run strong businesses.
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  • Profile picture of the author chucktheman
    thanks for all the replies guys!

    nest, what do you think is the best way to get started and build something up?
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  • Profile picture of the author chucktheman
    ronc0011,

    what would the lesser competitive language be?
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    • Profile picture of the author ronc0011
      Originally Posted by chucktheman View Post

      ronc0011,

      what would the lesser competitive language be?

      Microsoft main market is the corporate market where security is a major factor and data storage is Huge. The internet is evolved more from the Unix environment Its early is entirely different than Microsoft. In the early days of the internet servers were very robust machines and in some cases large machines mostly because of technological / hardware limitations. In recent years Microsoft has started making serious moves for the internet market. So now days Getting .NET hosting i.e Windows servers are as affordable as linux hosting. Pretty much all your PHP /MySQL development is for internet and web applacatio0ns. That being said the Microsoft market is kind of a blend of internet web applications and corporate intranet applications because the .NET core languages like C# can also be used to script actions on Widows Servers and Windows Domain controllers meaning that automated actions can be distributed from a script over a global network of company machines. This kind of stuff is very valuable to these big companies and the people who can do it are a valuable resource and are in high demand. Also because of the security issues Microsoft pretty much owns the corporate market. So the mirosoft technologies are going to be ASP / C# also VB.NET and The database side of things is going to be MSSQL whih is very powerful and robust DB system. Also C# is very much like Java and in my opinion a much more elegant language than VB though for some unknown reason VB seems to be more prevalent in the development community. Perhaps because it is the language people tend to learn writing macros for things like Excel It was Mirosoft's first native scripting language for their desktop applications. so it was common for secretaries and other office personal to learn it for their own uses. Never the less C# is a much easier language to develop in much less clunky.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg71
    Knowing some coding is good for troubleshooting and editing.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaasmit
    As a field of computer science the processes are always changing. It is very necessary to be yourself updated all the time. But you have to start with something whatever it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author ankur sharma
    I also want to learn some coding. I want to spend 2 hours daily in learning new skill. I think you should go and learn it.
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  • Profile picture of the author EndTheTrendNow
    I have an interest in learning HMTL CSS Javascript etc and do some cool stuff with it but will it really be worth my effort these days?
    It is totally with learning at least the basics for both HTML and CSS. There are numerious times where I wanted to display text a certain way and without knowledge of HTML I might end up not getting the results I wanted. So again, Yes it is totally worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ronc0011
    I' don't know what's happened here When I tried to post this yesterday it didn't post Thus It now seems to be posted twice. I have deleted one copy of it and frankly I'm not sure it's posted correctly or not. I guess somethings up with the ystem muwst be some kind of glitch .
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  • Profile picture of the author MattSabia
    No matter how easy it is to create things with point and click tools like Wordpress or Squarespace it's always good to know some type of coding and I've always said that everyone should know some basic HTML. Even if it's not the business you're in. Of course CSS is a valuable thing to know as well.

    So I guess my point is, yes
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  • Profile picture of the author 3dy
    Originally Posted by chucktheman View Post

    Let's get to the point, there is a lot of competition in this field and it only seems to grow everyday. It's getting especially harder to make money with web development coz of people from India, Philippines etc doing good work for cheap.

    I have an interest in learning HMTL CSS Javascript etc and do some cool stuff with it but will it really be worth my effort these days?

    Just asking from some advice if this would be a wise direction to go for and study some on in regard to the future?

    Any thoughts on this?

    Thanks,
    Chuck
    My answer would be yes. You just have to provide something different than they do.

    Most of these freelancers that you are talking about are doing decent work for cheap, as you said, but nothing original. They usually just use some pre-made templates and modify them to suit their clients' needs.

    If you are going to offer higher quality work, you will attract a different type of clients. And there are enough of them, you just have to prove your skills.

    Just my two cents from my personal experience. Also, no offense intended to those who use templates or lack the talent to create aesthetically-pleasing, original websites themselves. As long as their clients' needs are satisfied, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this.

    Or you can just move to print and general graphic design, illustrations, etc., if you really think there is too much competition on web design.

    Regarding studying it in the future... it probably isn't needed. Most big designers out there either have completely random specializations, or didn't go to college at all. Personally, I am choosing to study something kind of related to web design but many people will agree that it is a waste of time and you lose 4 years of work for a diploma which most clients won't even care about.

    The decision is yours. Don't ignore your inner call just because of your competition, or chances are you will live a life where you will do something you hate.
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  • Profile picture of the author nalakath
    Hi,

    My suggestion would be to do the following:

    - Learn HTML and a bit of CSS. You can try w3schools.com for it.
    - Learn WordPress - it's quite easy to learn and you can make most of the websites that you see online using it.

    WordPress and HTML is all that you need to build most of the websites.

    All the best!
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    • Profile picture of the author ronc0011
      Just a note about studying coding. I saw some else here make reference to studying coding as in collage courses. Honestly I don't think collage courses is the way to go to learn programming languages. i you want to learn programming languages then get online and start learning. Learning programming is something that is just not suited to a collage class environment. In fact I hink you will find that virtually all of your professional programmers are self taught. Basically they just took an interest in it and wouldn't let it go.
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      • Profile picture of the author Go4DBest
        Originally Posted by ronc0011 View Post

        Just a note about studying coding. I saw some else here make reference to studying coding as in collage courses. Honestly I don't think collage courses is the way to go to learn programming languages. i you want to learn programming languages then get online and start learning. Learning programming is something that is just not suited to a collage class environment. In fact I hink you will find that virtually all of your professional programmers are self taught. Basically they just took an interest in it and wouldn't let it go.
        While reading your post, I found myself nodding my head several times.
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  • Profile picture of the author michaelh73
    You should definitely learn, even if its just for yourself and your not making much money. Think about it, everyone is using computers and almost every business has a website. Theres always new companies coming up and people who have ideas for websites that need to be made, and you could possibly be the one they hirer. You just need to practice and if you have previous knowledge of other programming languages it really won't be too hard to learn. You can even make your own website for fun and show it off to your friends and family. And hey, its also a great thing to put on a resume.
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  • Profile picture of the author Really
    Originally Posted by chucktheman View Post

    Let's get to the point, there is a lot of competition in this field and it only seems to grow everyday. It's getting especially harder to make money with web development coz of people from India, Philippines etc doing good work for cheap.

    I have an interest in learning HMTL CSS Javascript etc and do some cool stuff with it but will it really be worth my effort these days?

    Just asking from some advice if this would be a wise direction to go for and study some on in regard to the future?

    Any thoughts on this?

    Thanks,
    Chuck
    Of course, however little they charge, "do it yourself" is still cheaper
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    • Profile picture of the author I Love Code
      Hey Chuck,

      I think it's totally worth it. It's a ever growing area and there is enough demand. If you like you can follow my blog where I share my own journey in the world of code.
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