what's the right price to pay for...

by papi70
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hi warrior friends, this is my first post..

Here's my question:
What's the right price to pay for an Elance designer to build my Wordpress site? Considering that I'll be supplying the theme and the membership plugin. The extras I've asked for are 5 pages (including affiliate page) Paypal Integration, Google analytics, a good CMS, optin form with automatic delivery of free report (pdf), forum plugin, affiliate tracking setup and autoresponder setup.

All ready to go and set up, what would you consider to be an honest price to pay?
Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    Why do you need a "designer" to perform simple webmaster tasks?

    Pages in WP - they are so simple to create that even a fifthgrader...

    "paypal integration" doesn't make sense if you do no specify what exactly that "integration" should do...

    Putting G. analytics into a site (even WP site) is a copy/paste thing (can you do it?) or using a plugin (obsolete but many people do it...)

    WordPress is a CMS, why do you need a "good CMS"?

    Optin form do NOT deliver automatically anything. But you can set up the thnakyou page of the optin process - do you have an autoresponder account? - to do it.

    The biggest problem with hiring freelancers is... the lack of knowledge of the hiring person. If you have no idea what is it involved with the tasks - you'll get screwed.
    My advice: learn first the basics about the things you want to outsource and don't use words you don't understand. Any seasoned webmaster will figure out how vulnerable you are and will charge you thousands.
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    • Profile picture of the author papi70
      Istvan, it's true that I don't know anything about building a wordpress site however doing it right and making it work is fundamental compared to just doing it and hoping it's done okay, i'm sure it's not all copy and paste. I'm sure I could figure it out and probably do a good job, but if a few hundred bucks can assure me a top notch site, I'm willing to spend it. What do you mean by plugin obsolete? And yes I have an autoresponder and i know they can be triggered to respond automatically to my optin. But like I said I don't know a thing about codes, html, php, ect.. and this is why if the price is right i'd rather have an expert do it, does this make sense to you? If I were doing a personal blog for fun, I'd figure it all out but since i plan to make a few bucks I'd rather pay and have it done professionally.
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  • Profile picture of the author shoeb000
    You can decide pay per hour amount, and can get details about how much time does it take to complete a certain work of yours.
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  • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
    We both agree absolutely that paying for professional services in the areas where we don't want to waste time and energy for learning - is a wise business decision. E.g. I always outsource graphic works because I hate even the idea of doing it... but it doesn't mean I don't know exactly what to ask and demand from the graphic artist!

    I know what size I want in pixels (or cm); I know what kind of resolution I need (depending on whether it is for print or web); I know what kind of file size (in KB or MB) I expect or need; I know colour codes and related theory... etc.
    The examples I picked from your original post (OP) were to show you: you were wrong when looking for a "designer". You need a $5 webmaster for the tasks you enlisted. No designer needed. Capisce?
    Re Google analytics. When created the account, it gives you the exact code to copy and paste into the website's file(s). It works (the paste) in any site, even in WP powered sites. However, some idiots need a plugin for even such simply tasks as copying a line of code into the template file. Any webmaster can do it in 14 and half seconds

    Next, if you have an autoresponder account, when creating and setting up a list of subscribers (that's what you use the pdf giveaway for...) there are steps where you (either YOU, the owner of the list or your "delegate" webmaster) sets up the thankyou and confirmation pages of that specific list - and those pages should contain the download link(s) for your ethical bribe/gift
    The autoresponder "automates" it - no need for overcomplication!

    And once again: you don't need to become fluent in coding... BUT if you plan to make money online, have a business online, own a website (pick one) - you better start learning the basics, at least in theory, to know the terminology, the related tasks in order to be able to efficiently communicate with your future webmaster. You will save hundreds if not thousands and a lot of grey hair by doing your part of the homework: Learn the field where you want to make money.

    If I tell you I can do all that stuff you want (but are clueless about) for $4,300 - are you OK? And I'll say, the price is "right"... because I am an expert. How can you argue with my expertise?

    Don't worry, I wont' make you any offer.
    But soon there will come to this thread a lot of wannabe self-appointed "experts" and will start bombarding you with crazy offers. At which moment I will delete the thread and you'll have a bitter aftertaste about this forum - just because you posted something that clearly gave away your lack of knowledge and might attract a lot of crooks

    Remember: I was trying to help you. In case you think you don't need it, just let me know...
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  • Profile picture of the author Deezign
    I agree with Istvan. Learning basics is really important when you are planning to hire a freelancer.

    Today, almost everything is doable/possible with Wordpress. I think that the cheapest solution for you would be to look for a nice Wordpress theme (on Themeforest.net for example), purchase it and then hire a freelancer to install it for you (if you don't know how to do it) and customize it.

    Of course, if you can take some time to learn these things, it will be much more rewarding and useful for you A lot of tutorials are available and when you purchase a Wordpress theme, the developer usually includes a "documentation" file explaining you how to set up everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author papi70
    Istvan, I agree with you Deezign.. I lack the terminology and my understanding in design and site building is very basic, however i do know that $4300 would be a crazy amount to ask for, and i also know that inserting code is not rocket science, you just gotta know where to put it and so on etc.. And this is exactly why I posted my original post, to learn.

    If I can have all this professionally done I'll be more than glad to pay a few hundred bucks..

    And of course I need your help, so please continue to illuminate me, I appreciate it.. how much do you think i should pay to have a professional looking WP theme with wishlist member plugin, paypal to sell 1 product (1 level of membership)? Is there anything else I need in your opinion?
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  • Profile picture of the author David V
    Prior to posting your project, just make sure you have a solid plan.
    There may be things you do not know to even ask, but try to layout a structured plan of attack for whoever you hire.
    Don't let them make all the decisions, especially when it comes to the Wishlist member setup.

    For your theme:
    "I want this changed, this color here, this header here, this code inserted there", etc.....

    For Wishlist:
    Read through their documentation FIRST so you understand how it works.

    There are a ton of ways to setup Wishlist, so layout how you want it setup.
    Don't just say "please setup Wishlist member for me", that's too vague.

    You can layout the workflow/memberflow yourself on paper and let them perform the manual labor.

    Someone of ethics and experience will point out to you any mistakes in your potential settings and or workflow or something you didn't think of.

    Make sure you have ALL your information ready for this person.

    You will need specific info to setup Wishlist, Paypal, Autoresponder, and whatever else you want.
    By info I mean emails, list name (autoresponder), pricing, and any other pertinent details to your setup.
    You could supply this as they go sure, but it slows down the process.

    Basically you want to layout your plan on paper (or on your computer, whatever) to the best of your ability.
    This will help ensure you get what you want.

    As a developer this is one of my pet peeves.
    When a client comes to me with virtually NO plan and very little detail, that means I have to do it, I have to fill in the details for your business! kinda crazy.

    I'm not saying you don't have a plan, just understand that the more direct you are with your instruction, the greater the likely hood it will be carried out as planned.

    The more detail the better. If your not sure about a particular setting, etc...ask them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Greg71
      Coming from a webmaster's point of view, although by no means a "master"...

      Even though it's an easy job, for me to set analytics up for a complete stranger would take probably 30 minutes max (sit down at computer, boot it up, get my mind focussed, get login details etc), I would probably ask $20 - $25 US.

      For anything less, I'd rather be down the beach or something doing my own thing. To deviate from my life's activities, that amount would do it.

      You'll need hosting and a domain name first. Make sure it's cpanel hosting so WP can run on it. Most hosts support WP, but make sure.

      If you were to give me your login details so I can install WP and your theme...

      Again, for me to be involved, I'd want about $20.

      If combining both of these two things (install WP and your theme, plus analytics), I'd probably say $40 because I can do both in under an hour, in one sitting and be done with it.

      Hope that helps. We're not all charging high prices, just for our time.
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