Where to find a good coach?

by yako
18 replies
Hi!

So today I was thinking... even pro athletes have coaches. They are the best of the best but still they have someone who 'teaches' them And even though I am doing pretty good myself with IM for the last 4/5 years, I know that if I have someone 'coaching' me, or even someone to whom I have to show my effort it will help me go to the next level which I been trying to do for a while now.

The problem is that I have no idea where to find a coach? where to start? what should I be looking in a coach? How much will it cost me? How can I know if he/she is for real or just BS?

I just want someone who really knows about the business. Who treats IM as a business and who is willing to push me to the next level.

Any ideas?
Thanks! Hope this thread helps others too and please don't make it a self-promotion thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author svetod
    Hi there,

    I don't call myself a coach, as I don't take money for providing some tips to people who are struggling with ppc, Internet Marketing, cpa/cpl etc..., but I will be happy to help if you have any quesitons.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by yako View Post

    Hi!

    So today I was thinking... even pro athletes have coaches. They are the best of the best but still they have someone who 'teaches' them And even though I am doing pretty good myself with IM for the last 4/5 years, I know that if I have someone 'coaching' me, or even someone to whom I have to show my effort it will help me go to the next level which I been trying to do for a while now.

    The problem is that I have no idea where to find a coach? where to start? what should I be looking in a coach? How much will it cost me? How can I know if he/she is for real or just BS?

    I just want someone who really knows about the business. Who treats IM as a business and who is willing to push me to the next level.

    Any ideas?
    Thanks! Hope this thread helps others too and please don't make it a self-promotion thread.
    Do you know what type of traffic you are interested in? I'd start by looking at that and picking someone or a program based around that
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      Hi!

      PPC is what I am interested in.

      I would try to search a little bit more around the forum. If you have someone or a program to recommend I will be all ears.

      Thanks!



      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Do you know what type of traffic you are interested in? I'd start by looking at that and picking someone or a program based around that
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    I'm very biased towards AFF playbook, but STM and ppccoach are good as well
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      Are you a member there? Do you think its work the money? Is there more useful material than what I can find here?
      Thanks again!

      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      I'm very biased towards AFF playbook, but STM and ppccoach are good as well
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      • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
        Originally Posted by yako View Post

        Are you a member there? Do you think its work the money? Is there more useful material than what I can find here?
        Thanks again!
        I've been a member of all 3, I am still an active member on aff playbook..
        IMO all are well worth the money
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  • Profile picture of the author ZephyrIon
    How much money do you have and time do you have.
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      Hi! I am willing to spend 8 hours a day if I see a return and I would be able to invest (not risk or throw away) around $10.000



      Originally Posted by ZephyrIon View Post

      How much money do you have and time do you have.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    Yako,

    I believe you should first define exactly what you wnat to do. Joining a mentoring program without knowing what you want to learn or having specific goals is almost always a mistake.

    Determine very well what type of business you want to build, what kind of trffic sources, verticals and offer you want to use, and just then look for a coach.

    There is not a specific place for finding coaches, but yu will eventually find some potential mentors here as well as on other forums and Facebook, but, as I said, you should know your goals before choosing someone to help you.
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      First of all thanks a lot for your time!

      Basically what I want is to expand what I am currently successful with but I find a wall in front of me.

      For the past years I been direct linking PPC ads to CPA with good success. I know I am good with that, and I am good at measuring things and adapting according to data as well as getting really good targeting, but direct linking is limited because not many offers allow that.

      So I want someone who can teach me PPC -> My landing page -> Offer. I need to see examples of that (ex, how big a site I should build, what type of layout, what type of content, how much that would be, etc) and understand the ratio of conversion that type of system has against direct linking, in my mind it seems impossible to get a profit out of that because the ratio of people I will lose along the way will be bigger (and I have to include the expenses of building a site, etc), but I know I am wrong and that there are many people doing it with great success.

      So my goal would be to create my first campaign where I link to my landing page (site) and then to the offer and make it profitable.

      Hope it make sense.

      Thanks again for your time and all of you here. I learn a lot since I started thanks o all the amazing contributions around here.

      Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

      Yako,

      I believe you should first define exactly what you wnat to do. Joining a mentoring program without knowing what you want to learn or having specific goals is almost always a mistake.

      Determine very well what type of business you want to build, what kind of trffic sources, verticals and offer you want to use, and just then look for a coach.

      There is not a specific place for finding coaches, but yu will eventually find some potential mentors here as well as on other forums and Facebook, but, as I said, you should know your goals before choosing someone to help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Hi! I am willing to spend 8 hours a day if I see a return and I would be able to invest (not risk or throw away) around $10.000
    With CPA marketing you'll need to work a little while before you start seeing a return.

    If it was as simple as work 8 hours a day, and get a return, then everyone would be quitting their jobs to start CPA Marketing fro home.

    But 8 hours a great amount of time to be able to put into marketing if you stick with for 3-6 months working 8 hours a day you'll running your own business for home in no time.
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  • Profile picture of the author yoangov
    It's harder and harder to get approved with affiliate sites nowadays with the HOT platforms (Adwords and Facebook). Which means traffic network -> Landing page -> Offer is way harder to get approved nowadays. If you want longterm profits, you might want to build a fully established affiliate site full of reviews and valuable content.
    Of course, in the US there is so much traffic to be bought, but I find it way more lucrative to go with proven platforms that have an interface specifically created to get you more money.

    As of coaching - there are some really smart marketers around here. $10k is a bit of an overkill, and since you already pointed the amount publicly, be aware of scammers.

    Ideally you want somebody to teach you the following: (some basic points)
    1. Traffic networks / Traffic generation
    1.1 Self-managed
    1.2 rep-managed
    1.3 Media buys and direct to site buys /Find related sites for big scale potential/
    1.4 Display advertising; PPC/CPM/PPV
    1.5 Understanding cold/warm traffic
    1.6 Email buys
    2. Offer creation
    2.1 Copywriting /ad copy, landing pages, headlines, emails, testimonials, persuation, and so on/
    2.2 Sales funnel - upsells, downsells, maximizing profit
    3. Split testing --> How much is enough, how to do it, softwares, etc.
    4. Tracking
    5. Remarketing - some really advanced techniques available, that rarely pop up in any guides
    6. Scaling, planning, monitoring and optimizing
    7. Understand targeting, how to easily find interested prospects ready to pay you
    8. Overall website layout that drives more sales
    9. Understand data collection, and optimization
    10. email marketing
    and some more...

    ^ All of the points above have some really advanced techniques. It's extremely rare to find somebody who is an expert in all of the above. This is why you need to know the direction of the coaching.
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      Thanks a lot! your information helps a lot. I guess one of my biggest problems is making the 'math' work. I understand what is needed, but usually I 'feel' (I yet have to take the risk and actually invest the money to get real data about this) but I always feel the expenses will be much bigger that the revenue from the campaigns in the case of Traffic -> My Site -> Offer. There is where I am stuck, but I will keep researching...if it works for others it should work for me!

      Thanks again!

      Originally Posted by yoangov View Post

      It's harder and harder to get approved with affiliate sites nowadays with the HOT platforms (Adwords and Facebook). Which means traffic network -> Landing page -> Offer is way harder to get approved nowadays. If you want longterm profits, you might want to build a fully established affiliate site full of reviews and valuable content.
      Of course, in the US there is so much traffic to be bought, but I find it way more lucrative to go with proven platforms that have an interface specifically created to get you more money.

      As of coaching - there are some really smart marketers around here. $10k is a bit of an overkill, and since you already pointed the amount publicly, be aware of scammers.

      Ideally you want somebody to teach you the following: (some basic points)
      1. Traffic networks / Traffic generation
      1.1 Self-managed
      1.2 rep-managed
      1.3 Media buys and direct to site buys /Find related sites for big scale potential/
      1.4 Display advertising; PPC/CPM/PPV
      1.5 Understanding cold/warm traffic
      1.6 Email buys
      2. Offer creation
      2.1 Copywriting /ad copy, landing pages, headlines, emails, testimonials, persuation, and so on/
      2.2 Sales funnel - upsells, downsells, maximizing profit
      3. Split testing --> How much is enough, how to do it, softwares, etc.
      4. Tracking
      5. Remarketing - some really advanced techniques available, that rarely pop up in any guides
      6. Scaling, planning, monitoring and optimizing
      7. Understand targeting, how to easily find interested prospects ready to pay you
      8. Overall website layout that drives more sales
      9. Understand data collection, and optimization
      10. email marketing
      and some more...

      ^ All of the points above have some really advanced techniques. It's extremely rare to find somebody who is an expert in all of the above. This is why you need to know the direction of the coaching.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    The first thing you should start tackling is making good landing pages.

    Landing pages are a huge factor of success in the CPA business.

    This means first, learning what a good landing page looks like via spying techniques, learning ad copy / angles techniques so you can spot them, and studying offers as well.

    Next, you need to learn the HTML and the design skills to make them. Thanks to all the coding software available today, this is a very easy skillset to acquire, but it will have a learning curve like anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author yako
      Thanks again! When you refer to landing pages, you are talking about a 1-page website with the only objective of bridging the client with the offer or about full sites?

      My main concern is that in order to build full sites I would need a lot of resources which makes the ROI hard to achieve.

      Thanks for your time
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Blue Planet
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      The first thing you should start tackling is making good landing pages.

      Landing pages are a huge factor of success in the CPA business.

      This means first, learning what a good landing page looks like via spying techniques, learning ad copy / angles techniques so you can spot them, and studying offers as well.

      Next, you need to learn the HTML and the design skills to make them. Thanks to all the coding software available today, this is a very easy skillset to acquire, but it will have a learning curve like anything else.

      Hi Greedy! I am new and wanted to ask if landing pages are also useful for adsense traffic? I mean in your opinion is it useful to use a landing page and then redirect to adsense page so I can get a list going? Also I like the idea of having adsense and cpa as sperate income streams.

      ps I just found your greed reports page! Very interesting Greedy!
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