[BAFFLED] Why Aren't You Succeeding In CPA Affiliate Marketing?

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I'm just curious as to why so many people are afraid to get started in CPA affiliate marketing or don't use it as a income source?

It cost nothing to join a network
You can make money using FREE methods
You can make even faster money if you have money to spend on paid ads
You don't need a product (this should be a relief to some)
You don't need a website (always good to have one)

Why is it that so many people either don't understand it or struggle with making money (consistent money at that) when it comes to this subject?

Don't mind me, I'm just a little baffled right now...I'm curious to hear the responses from total newbie to seasoned pro.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamescanz
    It cost nothing to join a network... ironically enough...

    That's probably one of the biggest 'brick walls' I've seen when it comes to CPA

    Nothing getting accepted quickly enough, or even getting accepted at all
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    • Profile picture of the author ivanadee
      Originally Posted by jamescanz View Post

      It cost nothing to join a network... ironically enough...

      That's probably one of the biggest 'brick walls' I've seen when it comes to CPA

      Nothing getting accepted quickly enough, or even getting accepted at all
      Yup...that's right. It's not so easy to get accepted in CPA network, especially if you live outside US
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom Addams
    I teach a lot of newcomers affiliate marketing and other, more advanced subjects.

    The main reason a newcomer avoids affiliate marketing: Lack of Information.

    Like anything in business, you usually need a good plan in place before you can earn good money. Lack of information, and therefore an inability to form a good plan, is the main deterrent when considering newcomers entering affiliate marketing.

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  • Profile picture of the author gluckspilz
    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    I'm just curious as to why so many people are afraid to get started in CPA affiliate marketing or don't use it as a income source?

    It cost nothing to join a network
    You can make money using FREE methods
    You can make even faster money if you have money to spend on paid ads
    You don't need a product (this should be a relief to some)
    You don't need a website (always good to have one)

    Why is it that so many people either don't understand it or struggle with making money (consistent money at that) when it comes to this subject?

    Don't mind me, I'm just a little baffled right now...I'm curious to hear the responses from total newbie to seasoned pro.
    Same applies to Clickbank, Amazon and pretty much any free affiliate network..

    What's your point?
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    I'm just curious as to why so many people are afraid to get started in CPA affiliate marketing or don't use it as a income source?
    I suspect that many (like me, when I started) aren't "afraid" of it at all, but decide to choose, instead, one of the countless other business models available in internet marketing, for whatever reasons might suit them, given their existing knowledge/skills/preferences.

    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    It cost nothing to join a network
    You can make money using FREE methods
    You can make even faster money if you have money to spend on paid ads
    You don't need a product (this should be a relief to some)
    Those four advantages are equally true of many other, non-CPA business models, too.

    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    You don't need a website
    You don't need any money to have a website anyway.

    And you need very, very little money to have a good one, on proper, professional hosting with your own domain-name. The financial entry barrier in internet marketing is astonishingly low. (The skills and information entry barriers, on the other hand, aren't necessarily all that low.)

    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    Why is it that so many people either don't understand it or struggle with making money (consistent money at that) when it comes to this subject?
    I think for all the same varying and complicated reasons that people "either don't understand it or struggle with making money" when it comes to any other subject in IM, as well.

    Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

    Don't mind me, I'm just a little baffled right now...
    I think that's mostly because at the moment you believe that CPA is a particularly easy, low-risk, low-cost, universal panacea of a business model for anyone to select. Not everyone shares that perspective.

    (I agree with GRM and Gluckspilz, above, as well.)

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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I've tried a few times to get accepted to some of the better known networks and have been rejected. I've read a couple of ebooks on the topic and they strongly suggest lying to get in. I won't do that so I guess CPA isn't for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author gregorybaskin
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      I've tried a few times to get accepted to some of the better known networks and have been rejected. I've read a couple of ebooks on the topic and they strongly suggest lying to get in. I won't do that so I guess CPA isn't for me.
      But you don't have to lie to get in.or accepted into a good network.

      I guess a lot of people feel that way?

      Ethics and morals kick in, is that it?
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by gregorybaskin View Post

        But you don't have to lie to get in.or accepted into a good network.

        I guess a lot of people feel that way?

        Ethics and morals kick in, is that it?
        As far as I can tell good networks are looking for people with experience, people they feel will have lists, influence, affiliates, etc., people that will make them money. I could come up with a bunch of crap that they'd want to hear but I choose not to. I bought an expensive Clickbank course on CPA marketing and the guy flat out says you've gotta lie to get in when you're starting.

        I've been marketing online since 1997 and have almost always been promoting my own stuff. The only thing I could tell these networks was that I had some experience promoting affiliate products. That wasn't my main thing, though it was truthful. They didn't care.

        I guess it's ethics that kicks in. I'm not going to make something up that's not true to get accepted. There was a time I would have but I've found out it's best to be truthful. So it goes...
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  • Profile picture of the author ThePhantom
    Simple

    Those who ain't succeeding are the ones who are too lazy to take action and can't be bothered with doing some research. They keep looking for push button riches that don't exist.

    Those who are succeeding, don't wanna discuss how and why. And when they do, they have something to sell
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  • Profile picture of the author lianecarmi
    It cost nothing to join a network... ironically enough...

    That's probably one of the biggest 'brick walls' I've seen when it comes to CPA

    Nothing getting accepted quickly enough, or even getting accepted at all
    Good point, though I think people who are new in the industry tend to let things like this stop them from doing anything, when if they just kept applying, they'd get into at least ONE network to start. In reality, I think that's why people don't get into CPA - because they don't realize that failure is part of learning, and they stop at the first roadblock they hit.

    In any case, that's definitely the most common question I've seen personally when it comes to CPA marketing - "how do I get accepted?"

    I've tried a few times to get accepted to some of the better known networks and have been rejected. I've read a couple of ebooks on the topic and they strongly suggest lying to get in. I won't do that so I guess CPA isn't for me.
    Nah, I wouldn't lie. Hop into Offervault.com, find out what offers they have at the network you want to join, and then apply with a specific offer in mind...let them know the offer, the type of traffic you'll be running...and you'll have a much better chance of getting accepted...
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  • Profile picture of the author creat1veone
    I am living proof you need no special knowledge and skills to run CPA offers, I first joined 3 years ago when I knew close to NOTHING in the IM world. I just learned what PPV and PPC means a few days ago, never touched any other promotional method or anything like that..

    Made $40,000+ so far with CPA only, and it would be in the hundreds of thousand if I EVER worked over 30 minutes a day, didn't even work each day to be exact.

    My point is, its EASY, if you're a beginner, read all the free tips you can find and start experimenting, all you really need is motivation, nothing else.., I'll also say that its easy to give up, after weeks of low income you get bored with doing the same thing, but it pays of - especially if you run into a gold niche with no competition...

    First month in CPA I earned about $90, I remember that day I went to the bank, I was so happy internet money is possible Couple months later I was already doing 1-2k a month, and some time later hundreds a day.

    Oh and, those who say you need money, YOU ARE WRONG, in 4 years and $40k+ revenue, you know how much I invested? Maybe 10-15 bucks for a few fiverr gigs and youtube accounts.

    Like I said, I just discovered paid advertising a short time ago, so I'm gonna try that now, it looks really interesting

    My point: If you try IM and fail, don't blame competition, your internet, your dog or anyone or anything but yourself. Work hard, you will succeed.
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    • Profile picture of the author GodOfCPA
      Originally Posted by creat1veone View Post

      I am living proof you need no special knowledge and skills to run CPA offers, I first joined 3 years ago when I knew close to NOTHING in the IM world. I just learned what PPV and PPC means a few days ago, never touched any other promotional method or anything like that..

      Made $40,000+ so far with CPA only, and it would be in the hundreds of thousand if I EVER worked over 30 minutes a day, didn't even work each day to be exact.
      You have zero reason to think that you would have made hundreds of thousands if you worked more hours. You simply took advantage of a temporary loophole (Youtube parasite SEO) and lucked out.

      Not trying to offend you, but CPA is a ruthless industry and people like you get eaten alive when they try to repeat small successes without knowing what they're doing. People get lucky with an offer / traffic source and think this is an easy game, then they lose all their money trying to scale up and have nothing to show for it, not even skills.

      I think this attitude makes a lot of people shy away from CPA -- they think it is all luck and spam and don't realize the extremely valuable technical and marketing skills that you learn through treating CPA / impulse marketing as a real business.

      Originally Posted by creat1veone View Post


      My point is, its EASY, if you're a beginner, read all the free tips you can find and start experimenting, all you really need is motivation, nothing else.., I'll also say that its easy to give up, after weeks of low income you get bored with doing the same thing, but it pays of - especially if you run into a gold niche with no competition...
      It's true that you will EVENTUALLY stumble onto something that works if you keep trying long enough, but you can say the same about gambling. Even "free methods" are paid for in time (and often legal troubles if you get successful at spamming).

      But what's the point? Stumbling onto something that makes money for a week or two and then gets you banned and hounded off whatever platform you're using over and over again isn't sustainable or worth the time and failures most will go through.


      Originally Posted by creat1veone View Post

      First month in CPA I earned about $90, I remember that day I went to the bank, I was so happy internet money is possible Couple months later I was already doing 1-2k a month, and some time later hundreds a day.

      Oh and, those who say you need money, YOU ARE WRONG, in 4 years and $40k+ revenue, you know how much I invested? Maybe 10-15 bucks for a few fiverr gigs and youtube accounts.
      You do need money. Both PPV and PPC have the word Pay in them for a reason. Experienced marketers are ecstatic to get 20-30% ROI consistently via paid traffic, and there's a whole lot of investment, data analysis, negotiations involved in getting there. Even the people making real money through spamming or exploiting platforms work very hard and have advanced skill-sets that cost them a lot to get as well.



      Originally Posted by creat1veone View Post

      Like I said, I just discovered paid advertising a short time ago, so I'm gonna try that now, it looks really interesting

      My point: If you try IM and fail, don't blame competition, your internet, your dog or anyone or anything but yourself. Work hard, you will succeed.
      That's simply not true. Competition is a huge problem, as is corrupt advertising networks, offer owners trying to push you out, networks going out of business, etc. There's a lot more to this than 'working hard' and 'staying positive' and the only way to learn is to swim with the sharks -- ie. there's no special place to run CPA ads that only allow newbies in, you are competing against brilliant and ruthless competition from day one. The risk is real, and there are many many opportunities to lose everything you worked for for reasons outside your control.

      Point is: people SHOULD be wary of CPA as nothing is as it seems in this industry and everybody is a lot more cutthroat and selfish than they would have you think (as in any zero sum game with low barriers to entry).
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      • Profile picture of the author gregorybaskin
        Originally Posted by GodOfCPA View Post

        That's simply not true. Competition is a huge problem, as is corrupt advertising networks, offer owners trying to push you out, networks going out of business, etc. There's a lot more to this than 'working hard' and 'staying positive' and the only way to learn is to swim with the sharks -- ie. there's no special place to run CPA ads that only allow newbies in, you are competing against brilliant and ruthless competition from day one. The risk is real, and there are many many opportunities to lose everything you worked for for reasons outside your control.

        Point is: people SHOULD be wary of CPA as nothing is as it seems in this industry and everybody is a lot more cutthroat and selfish than they would have you think (as in any zero sum game with low barriers to entry).
        This is VERY true and I think alot of people think it's just going to be candy canes and lollipops when it comes to this. They don't realize that people who have been in the business for awhile, don't "always" play fair.

        It's not like your the new kid in town, go down to the playground with the rest of the kids and make friends right away. There's always that 50/50 chance that you'll run into that bully beating up on the new kids.

        I have to agree, it's cut-throat and ruthless and unless someone has tough skin...well they might not last that long and move on BUT on the flip side there is plenty of money to be made if they know HOW.
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  • Profile picture of the author mhwaheed
    I love CPA, still not get success but soon I will. Friends I need your help to became successful in CPA.
    I am not SEO guy but I love paid traffic. I tested several campaigns on facebook but still not get result.

    Anyone have time please share your CPA case study. Thanks
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