How CPA Allowed Me To Quit My Job.

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I was working a sales job about a year and a half ago. I was selling pianos, so as you can probably imagine the store wasn't exactly overflowing with prospective customers.

So, I had plenty of time to learn all about internet marketing.

My very first foray into adwords + CPA was a HUGE success. I took the "webfetti" offer on Azoogle, it's a myspace toolbar, bid on one keyword on the content network "myspace", and proceeded to make about $5,000 that month off of that ONE KEYWORD.

I quit my job shortly after that. The webfetti gravy train didn't last long, and I ventured into other niches, insurance, information, education, and dating.

Dating is still my bread and butter. The networks pay $2-$4 for a free sign up, and believe me, convincing single guys to sign up for a free lead in hopes they'll get laid is, and always will be, an easy sell.

One of these days we'll look back and call these the "Good Old Days" of affiliate marketing.

So for you guys who aren't getting involved and trying new things, I recommend you start now. My first attempt was a huge success. I've had many failures since then, but I've learned from them all.

It's only going to get harder from this point on, so I'd recommend that you new guys get started as soon as possible. There's money to be made right now. No one knows where affiliate marketing will be in 10 years, I'm cashing in while I can, I recommend that you do the same.

Good luck!

-Scott
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize
    This is an inspirational story.

    Thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author toonarme
    Nice one Scott, I'm pretty new at this and posts like this keep me going when I'm feeling a bit down.
    Thanks for the post
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      great post. i've just turned the corner and am making decent money with cpa marketing. at this pace i expect to be leaving my job in january.
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      • Profile picture of the author alyoung
        Thanks for the encouragement. I'm looking at your dating WSO. Looks great.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kyle L Hannah
    Nice job Scott! I hired Scott to write an ebook for a site I recently built and he did a great job! Glad to hear CPA is going good for you to
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  • Profile picture of the author keblack
    Congratulations Scott on your success. I started trying CPA about 6 weeks ago because of an offer I bought here at the forum. I am using Media Traffic and Copeac for the CPA programs, but I can get some clicks for weight loss programs, but only one lead out of thousands of impressions. So, the trick must be the landing page where people click on an ad to go to the merchant's site - just my guess. Are you just using the banner ads from the merchant on your own URL, or do you design your own text or other ads yourself on the landing page they have to click on ? I am finding it very difficult and the book I bought doesn't seem to cover the problems you might encounter.

    Thanks very much.

    Have a nice weekend.
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    • Profile picture of the author brendan301
      Originally Posted by keblack View Post

      Congratulations Scott on your success. I started trying CPA about 6 weeks ago because of an offer I bought here at the forum. I am using Media Traffic and Copeac for the CPA programs, but I can get some clicks for weight loss programs, but only one lead out of thousands of impressions. So, the trick must be the landing page where people click on an ad to go to the merchant's site - just my guess. Are you just using the banner ads from the merchant on your own URL, or do you design your own text or other ads yourself on the landing page they have to click on ? I am finding it very difficult and the book I bought doesn't seem to cover the problems you might encounter.

      Thanks very much.

      Have a nice weekend.
      eric just gave you the complete layout. promote to a niche, get them to your site, get them on your list, then direct them to the cpa offer.
      btw- don't get married to the offers as they change. rotate offers, but get the traffic to your landing page first, then send them to the offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommyp
    That's inspiring. I've mostly shied away from CPA.

    Wouldn't potentially be more profitable to approach companies and sell them leads directly? I guess it would be more work but could pay off big time if done right.
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  • Remember to build a business, not just make money.

    Cpa can be a gold mine if it lasts, I've found that the offers change too often, payouts are annoying, lots of inconsistencies make it very challenging to pursue on a large level. At least for me so far!
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Build a list

      PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers

      Use CPA offers to monetize your list.

      ... and, even use your own products to sell to that list

      do JV's and build the niche list even larger

      add in membership sites on the backend.

      It will ALWAYS COME DOWN TO 2 THINGS TO MAKE MONEY
      IN THIS ONLINE WORLD:

      1) TRAFFIC
      2) CONVERSIONS

      later
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      • Profile picture of the author TheAtHomeCouple
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Build a list

        PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers

        Use CPA offers to monetize your list.

        ... and, even use your own products to sell to that list

        do JV's and build the niche list even larger

        add in membership sites on the backend.

        It will ALWAYS COME DOWN TO 2 THINGS TO MAKE MONEY
        IN THIS ONLINE WORLD:

        1) TRAFFIC
        2) CONVERSIONS

        later

        Eric summed up the last 37 MMO Ebooks I've read over the last year. Everyone listen to Eric, and forget everything else. He just saved some of you $97 somewhere down the line!
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        • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
          Originally Posted by TheAtHomeCouple View Post

          Eric summed up the last 37 MMO Ebooks I've read over the last year. Everyone listen to Eric, and forget everything else. He just saved some of you $97 somewhere down the line!
          That's cool, thanks for those nice words. I'll say this too... Luke is right too. There are other ways beyond Google Adwords for sending tons of traffic. But, free traffic to a squeeze page is not something Ive ever been good at.

          I do know of some who have used social media, craigslist, etc to generate lots of free traffic, but me personally, i've never really gone down that road much.

          I tend to pay for traffic first. Because it's fast and there are many ways to get tons of traffic for cheap. Like with using image ads on Adwords -- and site placement on specific pages within sites.

          However, the key is to pick a niche (like dating) or debt, losing weight, legal, etc and get your own domain name, create a squeeze page and build a niche list. CPA offers can convert nicely. So, monetize your list by promoting offers to those subscribers. EZ money...!

          Promoting CPA offers has been some of the easiest money I've ever made online, period.

          In my experience, CPA offers have blown away (as far as conversions) 90% of affiliate sales letters I've ever promoted. And, they should too. It costs what?? $50 to get a product listed in ClickBank? It can cost $10,000 to get an offer in a CPA network. For 10 grand, that thing better convert.

          You guys in this section of the WF are in the right place. CPA business can be very lucrative. But, it always takes 1) traffic and 2) conversions.

          With all the people I've coached, people who dont make any money tend to be those who cannot drive traffic or are not willing to pay for it. Sure, some can drive a ton with free traffic, but I rarely see that. Most I know, did it with 1) paying for traffic or 2) joint ventures

          Ask yourself right here and right now:

          Can I drive tons of traffic to an offer??

          If the answer is no, you're probably not making much money. I mean, even JV's and affiliates is a means of driving traffic (a damn good one too). That's still driving traffic. But, those who dont make squat online, do none of this.

          You should spend 80 or 90% of your time focusing on traffic if you are not making any money, PERIOD. The rest of your time can be spent getting ready to master conversions.

          Anyway, awesome thread. More in the main section should come on over here and see where the real money is being made.

          Eric
          PS - The next step up is to get your own offers in CPA networks and get media buying traffic. Now, that's what I'm talking about!
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      • Profile picture of the author Paul Buckley
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Build a list

        PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers

        Use CPA offers to monetize your list.

        ... and, even use your own products to sell to that list

        do JV's and build the niche list even larger

        add in membership sites on the backend.

        It will ALWAYS COME DOWN TO 2 THINGS TO MAKE MONEY
        IN THIS ONLINE WORLD:

        1) TRAFFIC
        2) CONVERSIONS

        later
        HEY! I paid you twenty bucks for that information (and a lot more) and here you are giving it away free!
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      • Profile picture of the author webguycanada
        Originally Posted by Eric Louviere View Post

        Build a list

        PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers

        Use CPA offers to monetize your list.

        ... and, even use your own products to sell to that list

        do JV's and build the niche list even larger

        add in membership sites on the backend.

        It will ALWAYS COME DOWN TO 2 THINGS TO MAKE MONEY
        IN THIS ONLINE WORLD:

        1) TRAFFIC
        2) CONVERSIONS

        later
        Good Advice Eric!

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Trivani1
    I am working in a construction company and Is it possible to cash out my 401k retirement money early when i quit my job to buy a house.
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  • Profile picture of the author tokyobabydoll
    I've been dabbling on IM for a few weeks now, trying out what works and what doesn't. I've only made change so far but this certainly is encouraging.
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  • Profile picture of the author beablessing
    Indeed finding the right niche is the key. Some niche may not be
    as profitable as the others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    Build a list, PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers, this is very true and you can always improve on that with PPC softwares..
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  • Profile picture of the author matman020
    Not bad i think it's something to learn from. But are you telling me there is goldmine in this Dating CPA thing that a newbie like me really needs to know?
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  • Profile picture of the author kkchoon1
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    Congratulation! Don't worry too much about affiliate marketing, this modal will work for decades...!
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    • Profile picture of the author James Schramko
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      I've said this before, but I don't think PPC is the best choice to making the greatest amount with CPA. That is coming from a huge adwords and PPC spender too.

      CPA is all about creativity...and getting huge amounts of free traffic to convert. Don't get me wrong, PPC is great and I love it, but by far not the best choice for CPA.
      Luke,

      Banners and content network can be very good for driving traffic with PPC (or CPM) when done right. (I use other methods too).

      When you find a great converting offer you want to get as much traffic as you can.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Schulz
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      I've said this before, but I don't think PPC is the best choice to making the greatest amount with CPA. That is coming from a huge adwords and PPC spender too.

      CPA is all about creativity...and getting huge amounts of free traffic to convert. Don't get me wrong, PPC is great and I love it, but by far not the best choice for CPA.
      I agree with Luke. It really is all about creative ways of driving traffic. So far, I have never used PPC to drive traffic to CPA offers, it's not that I am against it, because honestly, if it works and it is profitable, I am all for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
    Hi i feel great for you and inspired at the same time!
    Im doing CPA without any significant result for months. I need to start low as i do not have capital into investment like PPC, tho i can see its potential. Yet i have no back ups to lose and get burned.
    Any suggestion of advise or even methods u can share/sell/mentor me?
    Will appreciate feedbacks from you guys, and im open for PMs too if you think you have any good methods that work for you, and u can take me as an referral to duplicate ur system etc
    Im open and Im rly in need to earn money!
    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author iconoclast
      Scott, do you make your money doing mainly ppc straight to cpa offer? Or do you implement other strategies?
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Francis
    Scott like you im making more than 5000$ and dating also is my bread in butter on my affiliate stuff....


    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Francis
    Also eric hit it head on i offer them something free to optin then i sell them on cpa's. Works great.
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    That rocks, thats what I call some funnyfresh information!
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  • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
    I have not earned any significant from CPA yet...
    So guys you will recommend me to do dating niche?
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Murdaugh
    Clari,

    I recommend that you just jump in and start trying stuff.

    Dating can be good, but so can hundreds of other niches.

    Good luck!

    -Scott
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    • Profile picture of the author Dhira
      Originally Posted by Luke Sample View Post

      I've said this before, but I don't think PPC is the best choice to making the greatest amount with CPA. That is coming from a huge adwords and PPC spender too.

      CPA is all about creativity...and getting huge amounts of free traffic to convert. Don't get me wrong, PPC is great and I love it, but by far not the best choice for CPA.
      What would you say the best choice is?

      Originally Posted by Dan Schulz View Post

      I agree with Luke. It really is all about creative ways of driving traffic. So far, I have never used PPC to drive traffic to CPA offers, it's not that I am against it, because honestly, if it works and it is profitable, I am all for it.
      What do you use instead of PPC?

      I am going to guess Craigslist... yes?
      I'm doing this also...
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    • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
      Originally Posted by scottspfd82 View Post

      Clari,

      I recommend that you just jump in and start trying stuff.

      Dating can be good, but so can hundreds of other niches.

      Good luck!

      -Scott
      Hi Scott,
      Thanks for your advise
      i saw your Thread and $17 offer from the signature,
      Is there any other way to market it without using PPC?
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      • Profile picture of the author teenmoney
        Originally Posted by Clari Ng View Post

        Hi Scott,
        Thanks for your advise
        i saw your Thread and $17 offer from the signature,
        Is there any other way to market it without using PPC?
        If you don't have the money to spend on PPC, I would recommend starting niche marketing. Basically what you do is create a website based around a niche and certain keywords then promote that.

        What I do is create my website. Costs me about $7 for the domain name and no other start up costs.

        Then I create a web 2.0 circle. Make a squido or two about the keyword. Maybe even one about each. Then create a hubpages. then create a blogger blog. Then write some articles and submit to EZA, Article Dashboard, Goarticles etc.

        The key is to interlink all the sites, but make it so no site receives a link from a site it is linking to. Have every site link to your main site. Have each article link to your main "money" site and then each article link to a different site in the "circle".

        have the squido link to the blogger blog, have the blogger link to the hubpage and have the hubpag link to the squido.

        This will create interlinking site structure so that you will rank high in the SERPs for your keyword. Plus the best thing is that web 2.0 creates it own traffic so you don't need to rely on the search engines...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Francis
    if you are using craigslist make sure you are not driving them to the offer directely. You best bet is use craigslist to drive them to a landing page as most of the affiliate networks frown on it.

    Clari Ng you can make money with alot of them. Depends on what type of demogprahics your list is if you are email marketing. Now if you are ppc just pick on generally you can find a few of the highest paying epc if they have the stats avaliable. Build a landing page drive traffic with bumb and also ppc to the landing page optin them in then send them to the offer.

    This way even after you make you few pennies of the frontend sale you have them in your funnel for some future backend.... So even if you lose or break even you can sell them something else and you come out winning.

    If all you are wanting to do it make money off the front end then you can but it will never be close to what your possibilities is of making with them in your funnel.
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    • Profile picture of the author Clari Ng
      Originally Posted by Michael Francis View Post

      Clari Ng you can make money with alot of them. Depends on what type of demogprahics your list is if you are email marketing. Now if you are ppc just pick on generally you can find a few of the highest paying epc if they have the stats avaliable. Build a landing page drive traffic with bumb and also ppc to the landing page optin them in then send them to the offer.

      This way even after you make you few pennies of the frontend sale you have them in your funnel for some future backend.... So even if you lose or break even you can sell them something else and you come out winning.

      If all you are wanting to do it make money off the front end then you can but it will never be close to what your possibilities is of making with them in your funnel.
      Thanks Michael.
      I am not on enough budget to use PPC . i might think of email marketing but not sure if it is effective as it always become some kind of spams

      your idea is indeed good. Im planning something on it
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  • Profile picture of the author cashola
    Congrats Scott, thanks for that post and I hope it inspires someone out there. I've seen it for myself (I have a similar story but that's for another day) and I echo your sentiments - get out there and start now. Somebody has to make all this money it might as well be you.
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  • Profile picture of the author rose64
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    Very inspiriting post, Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Francis
    Eric already doing it with some of the cheaper entry level cpa's but as my lead generation programs get more seasoned i will spend more money on entry level programs with the majors like CJ and etc..... But you are dead on and everyone should know you make more money with cpa's than you will make with adsense or any other earner besides your business.

    All the cpa's and affiliate networks are nothing more than additions to my businesses. I don't build businesses around offers but build offers around my business. So build your business and kill it with cpa's and affiliate programs in the backend.
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    • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
      Well, that would be great to get giants amounts of free traffic first. If it's a ton of free targeted traffic - generated quickly, man, you've got a huge winner in marketing indeed. The only way I've seen that is through JV's or press or viral or getting ranked #1, pretty much.

      But, for most folks out there, they dont have your magic way of flooding tons of free traffic Luke. If they did, they'd all be rich. They dont know how to do what it is you know how to do.

      And, if they are going to go after free traffic first, then they'd be out there with blogs, web 2.0 platforms, articles, etc etc etc which is a lot of work or lots of money being outsourced for others to do it for you.

      It sure would suck to do all that work, or pay out all that money outsourcing that work, only to find out later, the offer does not convert.

      So, I recommend paid traffic first. See if the thing converts, then, create all that free traffic if you want.

      And, if you have your own domain and own squeeze page, and are building a list, then in my opinion, you are building a real business and not depending on some scheme that could end in 24 hours, only leaving you to go find the next sneaky scheme or loop hole.

      Sure, if you send traffic straight to a CPA offer, it will convert higher than straight to a squeeze page. However, that list... that list will make you money for a long-long time. You can always do both at the same time, build a list and send straight to a squeeze page.

      All in all, I'd love to know some of your free traffic methods as they sound like the bomb.

      Eric
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      • Profile picture of the author Eric Louviere
        Real quick, I just read over my post there and I dont want to sound like I'm going up against Luke at all. I think Luke has some killer ways of generating traffic and I've heard of him before using these methods. I remember someone telling me Luke is someone he believed was taring it up in the social marketing realms.

        That's not my strength, social marketing/SEO, etc. Luke knows some great ways of generating traffic I heard. So, again, I'm just posting my ways and what's worked for me... and my reasoning for doing it this way.

        Best of luck to everyone.

        Eric
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  • Profile picture of the author Nathan Hangen
    Awesome...but can you get me a discount on a Piano?
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  • Profile picture of the author drumzy
    This is great. Very inspirational story.
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  • Profile picture of the author datingloot.com
    traffic + conversions = $$$

    brilliant

    its simple but NOT easy
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    • Profile picture of the author Chris Monty
      Good stuff, guys. I actually got laid off from my mortgage job yesterday so this is good motivations.

      I've been at IM for about a year now. Making a little part-time income but not enough to live off of.

      I focus a lot on CPA marketing so now I have some more ideas to try.
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  • Profile picture of the author luane
    Hey there - thanks for that thread. I'm about to try my hand at this particular skill. It is SO encouraging to know it CAN be done. Truly appreciate your sharing in detail your experiences - good and bad, makes us all feel that there is hope!
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  • Profile picture of the author JOhnny Depth
    an inspirational story.

    thanks for sharing it!

    I will be trying that once I am earning more to pay some of those ppc campaigns.
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    • Profile picture of the author creck01
      Thanks for the information very inspirational.
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      • Profile picture of the author uthrive
        Good post I have'nt done any CPA yet but it seems to have become very popular just lately Thanks Teenmoney great information
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  • Profile picture of the author the-CPA-guy
    Actually CPA is not that easy money.I launch many campaigns at a time and one or two show profit.Then I draw a huge traffic to that offer from all possible traffic source.Don't forget about Facebook and Myspace PPC , Socialmedia , cubics and mobile ads at admob [hint-click to call campaign.Dishtv network has one].
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  • Profile picture of the author JayJayHa
    Great success Story!! I made 30k my first week with CPA offers. Hit me via PM and i will personally train you.
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    • Profile picture of the author ZenTraveler
      Originally Posted by JayJayHa View Post

      Great success Story!! I made 30k my first week with CPA offers. Hit me via PM and i will personally train you.
      Can you send me a PM or message on one of my Web 2.0 profiles... I don't have enough posts yet to PM you.

      Thanks in advance,
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      • Profile picture of the author stevenlean
        Build a list

        PPC >> to >> squeeze page >> to >> CPA offers

        Use CPA offers to monetize your list.

        ... and, even use your own products to sell to that list

        do JV's and build the niche list even larger

        add in membership sites on the backend.
        this sums up the entire concept in a few sentences where one could write a book to sell.

        Great share Eric!
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    • Profile picture of the author Brad Mc Bard
      Originally Posted by JayJayHa View Post

      Great success Story!! I made 30k my first week with CPA offers. Hit me via PM and i will personally train you.
      $30K on your first week doing CPA?
      (shrugs... oh well...)
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    • Profile picture of the author SFranklin
      Thanks for your story it is very encouraging. I am just starting my very first CPA campaign and I hope it does as good as yours!
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    • Profile picture of the author FredJones
      Scott, thanks for sharing. I have been running Adsense and didn't even manage to buy shoestrings from what I still think is a really great site in terms of content (and by that I mean a really great site in terms of content) - one that is going to stay for years simply due to its sheer content value. The money earning is still almost 0 every day, including absolutely 0 on some days. That is fine, now that I realize the site is good, I am no longer interested in money from it, in my career goals it might go much beyond what money can buy with a bit of luck.

      Having said all that, I don't mean I am not interested in earning enough to quit a day job. So, your story comes as a great inspiration. And I hope many of us also get to where you could go today!

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Hewitt
    Looks like a winner!
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  • Profile picture of the author syncjam
    Any other good links anyone has for a newbie like me? Step by step would help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Hewitt
    I've got to get this rockin'
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  • Profile picture of the author aekaplan
    Lots of people are disparaging PPC on here.

    I want people to be sure... there are lots of folks out there pulling in literally over $1,000/day profit because of PPC.

    If you want a ton of traffic fast, and you DON'T have a list, it would seem that PPC is the way to go (especially if you can't afford media buys).

    I'm spending easily $100-$150/day on Adwords, and that's nothing! But it's well worth the spend, I promise ;-)
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  • Profile picture of the author metafever
    Makes me want to go try the dating offers!

    Thanks mate!
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  • Profile picture of the author hunterron
    I want to try this, but I am clueless about much of what has been discussed so far. CPA? I know what PPC means. Is it possible to get some kind of "dummies" information via ebook, or perhaps I could use a mentor. Just FYI, I am very sceptical of anyone claiming to be making $1000 a day. However, I am a restaurant manager and would like to quit my job. I would have to be able to replace an income of about $55,000 a year. Is this REALLY possible, or is this just something someone will tell me I can do in order to sell me something?
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  • Profile picture of the author aekaplan
    Believe the hype hunterron. It takes work, dedication, and 100% belief, but I WILL be making $1,000/day by September...

    In terms of learning - everything you need to know is here or on similar forums starting with WF.

    If you want to replace a $55,000 job, it IS possible, but it requires work. It's not just a get rich quick scheme. You're going to have to put up money, long hours, and also know that none of us can predict where this industry will be in 2 years. My plan is to get in hard, make as much money as I possibly can as quickly as I can, and then see what happens. I'm not anticipating that I'll be able to do this for the rest of my life - but it's working now, and it's definitely possible to make a full-time living... I made nearly $1,000 this week in profit - if I can keep that up, that amounts to your job as restaurant manager! But no guarantees - I could see that drop to zero tomorrow, or I could see it triple. Depends on the work, and testing, and testing, and more testing. I wish you the best of luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author hunterron
    I am not afraid of work, or long hours. When you say "put up money", how much money am I going to need to invest to get started?
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    Great story scott, I hope you have continued success.
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  • Profile picture of the author aekaplan
    You don't just "put up" a block of money, but in initial spending for domains, hosting, sites, and ad testing I would say $500-1000.
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  • Profile picture of the author taylor44
    Thanks for motivational story, keep up the great posts
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  • Profile picture of the author multimastery
    Great thread! When doing PPC to market CPA how do you actually implement the Adwords conversion tracking code on the offer to determine if your paid traffic is actually converting and making you a profit?
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  • Profile picture of the author laguna1811
    great post scott, congrates on you huge success!
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  • Profile picture of the author ring69
    this is what makes the world a better place ^^
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  • Profile picture of the author jrptr
    Nice one mate, I'm fairly new at this and need all the help i can get
    Thanks for the info
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  • Profile picture of the author p307ig
    JayJayHa,
    since I only have 6 entries so far and thus cannot PM you, I would like to ask you to get in touch with me this way.
    Best regards from Germany
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