CPA on Google is Dead?

Google banned me from adwords for promoting an email submit CPA offer. It was for a $1000 Walmart gift card offer on one of the largest reliable CPA networks.

My website was more than a landing page, it had 10 articles and a blog.

Here is part of the email from Google;

Dear advertiser,

We are writing to let you know that your Google AdWords account has been disabled due to one or more serious violations of our advertising policies related to Landing Page and Site Quality. As a result, your ads will no longer run through the Google AdWords system and we are unable to accept advertising from you in the future. Please note that future accounts you open will also be disabled.


So I wrote asking for clarification. G-monopoly wrote back the following:

o The account was disabled because this URL is:
(SCAMS_INFO_HARVESTING_GIFTS)


Oh well... Move on.

I wouldnt say CPA is dead; My network and myself are both turning record profits thus far this year.

I would say "Free this or that" is dead. However it has been, for a long time.

Certain kinds of offers may be dead on adwords, but it doesn't mean cpa as a whole on adwords is dead.

Endless topics on this subject are truly getting kind of old.

Not quite. But it will be soon.

I feel that Google is hitting hard on anyone promoting scammy or dubious CPA offers such as Google Cash kit or ringtones or email/zip submits.

If you promote something that you wouldn't think is 100% legit , you are bound to get bitch slapped on Adwords.

What I suggest doing is collect people's email for your newsletter on Adwords and , afterwards , you send them your CPA offer.

You get commission and you build a list.

I do not believe Adwords to CPA is Dead . This is true if you are focusing on techniques and strategies every body is doing .

You have to study the the critical components of of Google and CPA and be creative .

Mike

People are getting their accounts banned for life for promoting CPA offers with adwords. Even mulit paged sites with privacy policies and disclaimers and good content are getting slapped. Some are even getting banned for promoting clickbank products. Google are out of control. I will never set up another adwords campaign as long as I live. As Gauher said, Google makes up around 30% of all internet traffic. I am going to be diving into the other 70%. Who do they think they are? People are doing their best to comply with their ever increasing QS rules and spending tons of money and still getting slapped. WTF? My advice to any Newbies: Do not bother trying to promote any CPA offers with Google, you will get your account banned. It is only a matter of time

For any of you that think it might be a clever idea to promote a CPA with Adwords, read this firstGoogle Adwords Drops The Axe Again @ Gauher Chaudhry’s Blog

Let me clarify that tweet.

Adwords to CPA offers being run from traditional CPA networks is ending in 2010.

If you are running your own in house CPA offer, that is a different story.

Google Adwords is now cracking down on CPA offers that are being promoted that coming from the traditional CPA networks such as Hydra, Neverblue, etc.

This info is coming from someone who works at Google Adwords and if you look at what has happened with the mass banning of accounts within the last 6 weeks, this seems to be accurate.

Some of us will be able to sneak under the rader for a while but EVERY Adwords account is now being manually reviewed. Google Adwords has hired a number of people working from their homes to do these reviews.

Perry Marshall has also confirmed this although his blog post is directed at all affiliate marketing on Adwords.

See: The Death of Affiliate Marketing on Google

It is possible to still make money with CPA offers using Google Adwords. You just need to be a little bit more creative and work a little harder like havoc21392 has suggested in a reply in this thread about creating a list from Adwords first.

Cloaking still works, but don't know how long that will last either.

Cheers
Gauher

*sighs*

Advertising will *NEVER* die.

If you want to push traditional submit type offers, then build a site that funnels people to that point in one way or another. Make sure its done in such a manner that google wont see it as being an obvious ploy to suck in leads.

I've handled about 50% of my CPA campaigns this way for 2 years now; the advantages are innumerable. I can switch in new offers, SEO, and build a community of repeat visitors.

If I'm going to spend money on PPC, I tend to like to do my best to turn that click into a repeat visitor as often as possible.

Quit your fear mongering, and start looking for ways to adapt.

People have been playing chicken little for years now
I could keep going.. but I wont. Thats just from a quick google search.



Edit-

Again, fear mongering.

This is from the link in the post above me-

And its always been that way.

Yeah it is pretty much dead I guess Media Traffic is the way to go

Google is BIG... But not the only game in town..

Ummm, nobody said advertising was dead. Not sure where you got that from.

You obviously did not read my post. I said sending Google traffic to CPA offers including iframes or poor landing pages that are supplied by traditional CPA network is pretty much dead.

Sending traffic to your own website is NOT Google traffic to CPA Offers. That is Google traffic to your own website. Nobody said that was dead.

Many of us adapted years ago and have built massive email lists from sending Google traffic to our own web sites, so adaptation took place years ago.

Fear mongering doesn't make money for me or Perry, so suggesting I made my tweet or that Perry made his blog post to scare people is foolish. I am simply telling others what inside sources at Google Adwords have said.

Gauher

Exactly. I might add that when 150.000 Adwords accounts get shut down in six weeks, then I don't think anyone is "fear mongering" here. Many of these accounts were owned by people who have been advertising with Adwords for years and weren't just newbies with crappy one page landers or direct linking. It is not just Adwords that are cracking down with CPA offers either.

Here is an e-email a fellow warrior received from Bing:

Thank you for contacting Microsoft adCenter Support, my name is *****.
I understand that you would like to know why your ads have been disapproved, or are pending review by our editorial group. I apologize for any frustration this situation has caused, and will be happy to assist you.
I reviewed your account and your website and unfortunately we will be unable to host these ads on Bing.com. The reason for this is that the searcher experience provided by sites of this nature is quite low.
Your ad and landing page advertise a free iPhone 3G(S). On the surface, this seems like a very good deal, but upon reviewing the terms and conditions the impact of this is lessened.
Here are some of the major concerns both Bing and our searchers have with these offers, and why we do not currently run them with us:
(1.) You must successfully complete the following reward offers: two (2) offers from Silver Offers, two (2) offers from Gold Offers, and eight (8) offers from Platinum Offers .
(2.) refer (2) unique household(s) that also complete the program requirements.
*Please note that available reward offers will vary. Some reward offers require a purchase. Credit card offers may require you to activate the card by making a purchase, transferring a balance or taking a cash advance.
An iPhone 3G(S) starts at $199.99 on the Apple website. When requiring someone to sign up for 12 different programs, and then refer at least two totally separate households to also complete those 12 different programs each, the money savings starts to lose out in comparison to the time and effort this will take to complete.
You also have to factor in that, as the terms state, some (or all) of those 12 offers will either require a purchase or will require the searcher to provide credit card information. By requiring a purchase, this iPhone 3G(S) is no longer free.
Also, many websites that operate with these programs utilize negative option billing. Negative option billing can be very hard to detect as a casual internet user, as this advertising is targeting, and can at times result in hundreds of dollars worth of unexpected charges on your credit card. There is also an additional time requirement needed to clear those situations up.
In the end, searchers will need to invest countless hours into this, and may end up spending more than $199.99 (either willingly through sign up or unwillingly through negative option billing) to get something that they could have picked up in five minutes on the Apple website.
If you had any other advertising that you were interested in running with us I would suggest contacting our phone support at the number listed below before spending the time in setting up campaigns. Our support staff can review the website / product / offer you are hoping to promote and give you an idea as to whether that will work or not.
I again apologize for any frustration caused here, but after breaking out the details of this offer above I am sure you understand why that wouldn't be something that would create the type of positive searcher experience that will keep people using Bing and keep them referring us to their friends and family.
Your reference number for this interaction is XXXXXXX.
Thank you for choosing adCenter.
Sincerely,
xxxxx
Extension xxx-xxxx
Support Representative, US Microsoft adCenter Team

Good on Bing. Those type of offers need to be killed. There is a hell of a lot more to CPA than that crap.

Google is not the only GAME in town! Great topic here!

There's no danger of account in running Free Trials which require a credit card submit since those offers seem pretty different to me than the offers Microsoft doesn't like as described in their email ... or is there. Any Thoughts?

CPA on Adwords is not even close to being dead. Just takes a little bit of thinking outside of the box

tryinhere, the easiest solution is screw Google.

Use Yahoo, use msn, use the long list of second tier ppc engines, which still allow you to direct link to email submits if you wanted. Hell pulse360.com still allows fapers and flogs as long you put "advertorial" at the top of the page.

My question is what's the next round of guru products going to focus on?

Free traffic? Google alternatives? How to setup a PPC agency for small business on adwords? Media buys? CPV? I'm guessing the guru's are positioning things right now for this. Nothing wrong with that either, that's how they make their dough. So more power to them.

Any surprise when Google has it's own CPA network?

I can't post links, so just go under your adwords account, and search for "google affiliate network"

It was only a matter of time.

Far from the truth.

Certain offers are a lot harder to get approved, but some of the biggest pubs @ EWA are running them using advanced cloaking methods. CPL's, dating and downloads all still work fine and are within regulation.

I highly doubt that they're going to ban CPA per se on Adwords. What they'll probably do, in my opinion, is disapprove of direct-linking campaigns, just like they've done with your standard clickbank and affiliate offers. I think those email and zip submits give CPA a bad name, and that's what they're trying to get away from. I'm sure they'll still allow landing pages of all kinds (as long as it's targeted and useful content) that then redirect to CPA offers.

CPA on Adwords is alive and kicking,think outside of the box.
We use Adwords and CPA to great success,No ban yet

USE MSN adcenter......it works!
They will not ban your account.

Try working within the rules to get your campaign going. Yes, you may have to dig your offer deeper, but guess what, theres less compeititon now because I lot of the lemmings have fled, which means its cheaper for me.

Yes conversions are down, but so are click costs for a lot of keywords I wouldnt have even considered in the past. My bottom has barely been affected by the crackdown.

Play within the rules and work around the hurdles that are faced...its the name of the game!

Seems to me the only people being hurt here are the ones who put up the really crappy and frustrating offers, like the IQ test etc.. Those offering real values and real products have nothing to worry about as it should be.

Bing traffic is rather low, but conversions are rather high. I think media buys (which requires a bit of investment) is one of the best ways to increase your profits, once you have a successful campaign on Bing or Yahoo. Eventhough its search vs content, you can find sites which are related to your target keyword, contact them directly, and negotiate a deal.