I'M OFFERING $15.000,00 MONTHLY TO CPA INVESTMENT!

only 1000% ROI? At 15K a month, you should be looking at 10,000 or 100,000%ROI.

1000% is for chumps.

1000% ROI?? Seems impossible and unrealistic !!

I dont think 1000% is unrealistic, but I'm confused what you are asking for. A coach? Or just somebody to put your money into campaigns and then essentially pay you.

hmmmm

This is what I dont understand. I can just invest 15k of my own money and keep 100% fo the profit. For intermediate people who dont want to risk any money, this may be a good offer, but then of course your investment advisor isnt as knowledgable or talented. 15k a month is a lot of money, but not really in the scope of things...when you are talking about 1000+ % profit, 15k isnt that much.

May be a great offer for somebody here though!

It's an interest conversation between you guys

I'm very experienced in CPV, but can't accept your offer...

Here are my comments:
1- 1000% return is possible but it isn't easy.
2- Most of those who can achieve this will prefer to do it with their own money (and keep 100% of profits).

My advise to you, is to approach a seasonal marketer and see if the offer rings any bells or not... asking in a general CPV forum, will get you the comments you got so far

of course with all respect to all fellow warriors, but you didn't get the person you are looking for.

Good luck,

Tamer

the problem I see is if someone is good enough with CPA and CPV to get that kinda ROI then they probably are make awesome money themselves which doing this wouldn't make sense for them.

I agree with Bobby, you might run into some starting losses at first but it'd be better in the end.

1000% ???? I don´t think it´ll work, but it is worth trying, because I´ve just made a research on Google and it seems there are some people getting 1000% ... hm-hm-hm

Luiz,

Here's my sincere opinion and advice...

You need to play in a bigger traffic market with the ad spend you are allocating.

First, I say that because of the limited volume of CPV traffic available for your ad spend. It would be very challenging to develop and maintain the campaigns necessary to hit the results you desire using CPV traffic.

Second, the bigger traffic market that I am referring to is "media buys".

Third, you need to learn how to do this otherwise it is a short-term prospect. I'm not interested in your offer but always glad to help another warrior advance when I can.

To your wealth,

John

I would imagine that any skilled CPA marketer will have more than $15K to spend of their own money to achieve 100% of the profits.

I really don't see how this would be a benefit at only 25% payout.

50/50 sounds more like it man! No one is going to take that type of cut in this industry if they do all the work. Why should they and just keep 25%?

50/50 sounds more like it man! No one is going to take that type of cut in this industry if they do all the work. Why should they and just keep 25%?

Luiz, I do think its an interesting and valid proposal. No harm in asking and there may be that superstar CPA marketer out there that is skilled but doesnt like to take on risk. There are people out there that dont want to risk a dime. I think this is who you are looking for, somebody who is skilled but for whatever reason doesnt want to risk his/her own money.

It may be hard to find that person because most people who are good, become that way by taking risks and taking action. And if they are good then these actions turned in to money so they have a decent amount of their own money to invest.

With that said, there may be somebody out there who is a good fit!

go for some realistic plan... and i am in.

Thanks
AB

PM me. I think I have what you are looking for.

Hey Luiz, please don't take offense to what I'm posting, I'm actually trying to save you some risk, but in my opinion, your deal just doesn't make sense for you or a seasoned CPA pro..........and here's why:

To come to a public internet forum to hire someone who A) you don't know B) you never met and C) never did business with is very risky for you, to say the least......

Then to want at LEAST 50% of the profit if not more, from a CPA pro (I assume you don't want to do business with a CPA noobie) and not do any of the work.....its just not realistic, and quite frankly its pretty risky for you if you do find someone who takes your offer.....at least in my opinion.

Now I am by no means a CPA master. Matter of fact, the only reason I'm into Internet Marketing is because I had a very serious heart attack about 3 years ago........

..........you know the whole thing,......... my heart stopped, I was rushed into an 8 hour triple bypass surgery...... la di da di da................I don't think I need to bore you with anymore details.......

Anyway, I decided that I had enough money and I'd much rather live than die..........but I got bored doing nothing, so I got into IM just to keep myself busy, then I saw the potential and now I'm a little more serious about it.

I used to make my living in Real Estate.........Manhattan, Brooklyn and a little in Queens, all boros of NYC.

In any case, like you and PPC, I was very good at what I did. I started in 1990 buying anything I could north of 96th Street and south of 14th Street, in Manhattan.............midtown was too expensive for me at the time.........nothing huge, mostly 10-40 unit buildings and a few brownstones, which I never kept, I just flipped those........believe me its just as much a pain in the arse running a 4 unit building as it is running a 40 unit building, but I digress.

Make a long story short, a private lender, that I had done business with, came to me in 2000 and told me he'd give me a lot of money to invest(I'm not gonna say exactly how much, ..........you say you make 7 figures.....suffice it to say it was slightly north of 7 figures) .........I would find and manage the deals and we'd go 50/50........

I said no.

Why?............. think about it.

By 2000 I was a pro at RE investing and managing buildings, and I assume you want a CPA pro working for you......... anyway his terms didn't make sense.........

1. I had to do all the work and only get 50% of the deal........

2. I could have gone to any number of banks I was doing business with and gotten the same amount, if not more, at 8-10% (at that time) and kept 100% of the profit, I had no reason to give up 50% of any deal just for the money, at that time.

Now when I was starting out I would have taken the deal in a second, but it never would have been offered to me because when I was starting I had no track record.

So asking a seasoned CPA pro with a proven track record, for even a 50/50 split just doesn't make business sense for the CPAer, it might for you but not for them.

If you do find someone who takes you up on your deal, make sure he's the real thing or you may lose your $15k, .........which lets face it, at 7 figures a year, thats really just BlackJack money, 30 hands the most.........I mean if you're willing to take the risk.....some people are very risk averse.

Capital is easy to get when you're good and successful at what you do, like many of the CPA bigwigs on this forum, and like you with PPC.

If I were you I'd hire someone you trust, and pay $15K to have them taught the CPA biz by a pro, if you don't feel like going thru the hassle yourself, then pay him/her whatever you want and he/her can make you your money while you continue to dominate PPC.

Again, I'm just trying to give you what I think is some relevant advice.

Good luck to you, no matter what you decide.

Peace

Well I still don't get why someone who would have the ability to turn 300% ROI on PPC would not just take the time to sort out a Cost Per View campaign on their own. I can't get near 300% ROI on PPC, hell I am happy if I can break even on most of it.

Here is my 2 cents as to why I think you have a problem with this offer.

I work with the the amount you are talking about on CPV. My budget is now more or less $500 per day so 15k per month, this month a little over 16k , and after about 6 months I am between 300 - 400 % ROI, clearly not in the league you are looking for, but still making more than I would get from a 25% share with you even if I could hit your numbers, which I can't by the way.

You see here is my problem, I was taught to do this by choosing one niche. You learn that market, you learn everything you can about it, and you perfect it, you build a business in it. No secret, just one system, one focus, and learn to test and track everything , every headline, every landing page, pop over v pop under, pictures, colours, everything, and you improve as you go. It has taken quite a while to get to where I am now, 6 months on this niche alone. Some urls can give me 1000%, some where there is greater competition I get much less and then there are others that just about break even and quite a number lose, and other times, well let's just say I end up taking a bath, you can't win them all but with the way I work, even on the urls where I make a small loss, In most cases I make it up on the back end, but trying to scale up is not easy. One of the problems with cost per view, and any traffic source for that matter is I can only take what traffic is there, sometimes there is only so much traffic the network has that is right for your offer and that will be profitable. If there are only 1000 impressions to be had for a good converting url, no extra cash is going to change that, and I am sure i am not the only guy in this market who has hit a traffic ceiling targeting a profitable url. Every time you try and scale up, it takes more time to test things out, you win some and lose some and you stand still again for a few weeks untill you have enough data to know what is working. Working that out for myself is one thing, having to answer to someone else is exactly why I stopped working for " the man " in the first place.

And for what it's worth I think Jeremy was been Ironic about the 100,000% ROI.

Best of you luck with your request.


Kev

No one can guarantee that kind of ROI over and over again

Hey Luiz....I see it as a very valid offer....even if its a seasoned pro, if they're business savvy enough they would have the knowledge to ramp their system up without that much more effort on their part while making it a win/win scenario. Percentages would probably be negotiated which I don't see it being a problem to you.

But I get you....you want these big boys to put up and you'll throw your money in the ring to see if they can deliver....I believe thats one of the biggest elements to you, as well as making a profit on your money...


On the other hand, there is people out there with skill and no capital to ramp it up.....in this case, finding someone like that is like a diamond in the rough.

Best wishes on it...and I'll keep an eye out for you....

thanks

Brik

Luiz,

I have on option u might like,............start your own network!!!......I'm serious, its not that hard for anyone who has a good business sense

Oh and thank you for your kind words from the post before.

Good Luck

Hello There,

For those interested about some feedback...including the fellows that helped me out with serious tips, comments and ideas, and "mostly" to the ones (or the only one) that posted an ironic reply (I thought we were here to help each other...not to make jokes....I think that some guys here should be at another forum...something like a "jokes" one)...anyway....back to the feedback....I closed a deal with a savvy CPA expert and I'm making a interesting 325% average ROI...far from the 1000%...or from the 100.000% ironic post....but very profitable and stable. I'm paying 25% of the profits to the guy...and yes..of course I'm getting paid like clockwork.

Once again, thanks for all that helped me out...with serious comments or ironic jokes....feedbacks are always welcome. We can learn a lot from other people's behavior... :-)


Take care guys,

Luiz

Yes I remember this thread.

The thing about propositions is that that unless the proposition is sooo one-sided, there is normally a mutually beneficial partnership than can develop, its just finding the right person that is tough.

For example, somebody just pmed me about putting up flyers here in the US and they will give me x% commission. Now for me that is a horrible proposition. Putting up flyers is not anything I would consider for my business at the stage its at now and if I did want to do it, I would put up the flyers myself and make 100%.

But that doesn't mean its a bad proposition. For somebody out there who doesn't even have the little money needed to buy a domain and hosting and set up a CPA offer, this may be the perfect opportunity for him/her. So it wasn't anything I would consider but would be great for somebody out there.


So I think people (perhaps me) were a bit too harsh about your proposition but that doesn't mean it was a bad one. And as you now see, there was somebody that fit your opportunity very well.


Congrats and glad you are seeing the potential in CPA...its great aint it!

those are insane ROI's
50-100% is decent

anyone readig this would think you can turn this around in a few months!!
why would i do all the work and give you over 50%

any newbs dont be misled by talk of grandiose
get yourseldf into a focussed forum and a decent coach

Honestbiz,

What is interesting is that most people I know that are doing well did exactly this...they started doing free and bum methods and then hustled their way up the ladder to fortune. I remember spending hours delivering flyers from door to door and car to car just to make some money I could use to buy domain names and hosting and WSOs and products. Starting from rags and scraps helps give you the motivation and dedication to put in the work necessary to make it in CPA.

Sometimes people with a lot of money to start just want to buy their way into CPA fortune which may work, but many times will not.

I am seriously doubting alot of your legitimacy (most people in this thread!)

As a marketer, we typically work on 50-100% margins with our campaigns. Yes, 1,000% is possible, but its completely unrealistic. If you actually do this business you would know that.

Yeap, I understand what you meant too. That's why I said I turned him down, because realistically, I think that it's so hard to be done in that fashion.

For the record, I've actually strike that kind of ROI for around 2 weeks straight.

I spend no more than $5 per day to make at least $50, for 2 weeks straight.

But again, realistically, when we are thinking about the traffic available throughout a CPV/PPV network, one won't be able to get this kind of margin all day long.

Also, the offer was being taken off after that. I totally understand and see your point there, my friend.

Well this thread is actually a very good thread for those who think that they can strike the gold pot overnight and making thousands of dollars overnight using CPV/PPV. This just don't apply if one is fairly new to the CPV/PPV -> CPA method.

But what Luiz meant initially, could be a bit different than what he is doing now. He is already constantly making 300+% in cpv now, regardless of whatever amount that he has invested with the CPV pro that he is partnering with. Far more less than the 1000% ROI that he intended to get, but still, it's quite a nice ROI at 300+%, IMHO.....

Indexphp, sorry man, If I was anyway harsh in the reply up there, but I just hope that people get to see a clear picture of what's happening in the CPV/PPV realm

That's an interesting thread I really enjoyed the conversation. Just one little question between: If everyone talks about Media Buys and CPV, what kind of Network do you guys use and where you have trust?

I can't believe anyone would not understand how some who have skills but no cap to invest would gain. Experience and pofit from the opp being offered by the op here. If nothing else he should commended for offering such An opp to fellow warriors. I'd
f seo experts are so good then why so they offer services to others? Why don't article writers just write for themselves. Why do people provide outsourcing Services At all? I find it rediculous that this has been questioned. Outsourcing is beneficial to all.

LOL ! "Master" sounds intimidate to me

Well thanks for the words Luiz.

Luiz, allow me to PM you with some great people's name who are making huge money using the CPV/PPV method.

The point of sending you those names, are not totally because of you can hire them or outsource your CPV/PPV works to them.

You know, since you're not really like a marketer to me (you're more like an opportunity seeker/entrepreneur to me), I think it's good that you get to know those people who is making huge bucks using the CPV/PPV method. You can try to contact each and every of them, they might not reply to you, but hey, you lose nothing trying to contact them, right?

What if few of them is replying to you, and maybe 1 of them ended up partnering with you, and ended up having a business deal which you won't even have the chance or opportunity to get into, should you never contacted them, right?

Save your money, man. I don't need $1k or $500 or $100, NOT EVEN $7 for the list of names of good CPV/PPVers that I know.

Just allow me to PM you and that's it

Have you tried the freelance site? You can post your jobs offer there, make a good proposal job that gets intention to those CPV experts there, or you can invite someone with high rating at the freelance site.

You can try elance, rent a coder or freelancer.com , there are plenty of freelance sites out there, try one and good luck with your project.

I sense some manlove going on in here!

WF is great huh, so many people helping each other out, great partnerships are being made, pretty neat stuff here!

Ken

HAHA! Kenster you bad ! Isn't that another word for gay ?

lol...yea, I agree, people like you (Kenster) who go around the forum and help each others getting up and running, that's priceless.. hehe...

Hi guys,


My signature here was almost becoming a joke...agree? A never ending "coming soon....." LOL
But it seems that now it's really about to start...anytime...so Beta testers will be very welcome.
I hope there's no problem about posting it here...otherwise....i'm sorry about that Admin....

Thanks 2 all,


Luiz

WOW...just checked my inbox and I'm getting several PMs from fellow warriors willing to be beta testers....Really amazing....Thanks a lot...:-)

1000% ROI? You want to get into forge currency printed business

Dear fellow warriors,


As promissed yesterday...


I'm in need of publishers with websites or blogs willing to add my cashub code on their pages. It's a contextual piece of code that will "read" the content and publish ads in accordance...just like Adsense does...This is not CPA at all...the visitor clicks and the publisher get paid. The differences we have compared with Google Adsense are:


- We don't have (by now) our own advertisers...we have hundreds if not thousands of advertisers from huge networks we have deals with....in a way that we'll have offers to all kind of content.

- The bids (payout) will be high as we'll pass the larger % to the publishers instead of keeping the biggest share for us...as Adsense does.

- Google is a giant and we are a very small network. we'll certainly have lower bids but we'll give a great support, will not have none of that crazy rules and slaps. We'll pay way faster (every two weeks), allow wesbites made to be monetized by the ads, you don't need to work for months to get a good rank and grab the most profitable ads...all you need is good content...even if not unique.

- A lot more that I'd take all day to explain here...bellow there's a signup page exclusive to the fellow warriors...a very simple one...allowing us to have a list to shoot an e-mail as soon as the system is ready....sending all necessary instructions...


http://cashub.com/subscribe/form.php


That's it guys...



Cheers....:-)

Just a gift to all:

http://tonyrocha.me/download/gift.php

No tricks...no e-mail form, no OTO (OTO for me sounds like a dog's name...no offense please if your name is OTO....).... just a "thank you" gift...

Cheers,

Tony Rocha

The good thing is that you do have the skills and knowledge to replicate and surpass your original success. Last time you started with 3k, this time you have experience so that 3k should grow much faster than it did last time.

With your knowledge, you can use free methods to get you up to that 3k level to start doing PPV or whatever paid traffic you were doing.

As you probably know, it only takes a couple of good campaigns to bring in a lot of cash, so you dont even need an investor. Its not like this business is going anywhere.

The important thing is that you learned your lesson and have a ton of knowledge that will undoutedly help you surpass the level you were at. And the best part...now you will get to keep 100% of the profits!

Hey...I just found out that the "gift" I posted is something that everybody and his dog already have...LOL...sorry about that...I'll give a real gift soon....just give me some time....:-)


Tony

i want to try,if you want share..

Let's work fellows...I just fiished my BigMac...(oops..this is not Twitter...) LOL!!!!

It would be a great idea to develop a cpa club. Investors can invest in the projects and share the profits..If everything is kept transparent, it could work out well.

Hey biz, 50/50 could be interesting,
i will pm you.
(*edit - oops can't pm yet you can reach me on my email onlinecasinosponge at gmail dot com send me a msg and i will fill you out with my details and skills)

Why it is restricted to cpa only? Why not to look into some other business model. If you want to become investor, you should look into every proposal. Doesnt mean cpa is the holy grail of increasing money by leaps and bounds.

The only way I can think of getting that kind of ROI on 15000$ is taking that money, building a list of 15000 subscribers or more with CPV. And only then you can get 1000% ROI on the money, but it will happen probably after a year.

1000% ROI can be probably achieved through many very small campaigns because it's pretty hard to get it on big traffic targets. Expirienced marketers can get 300% ROI, but 1000%?

P.S - even if there is someone like that, why would he want this deal? Let's say he has 100$, after month - 1000$, 2 months - 10000$, 3 Months - 100000$. And it's all his...

Congrats man. thats good,

Goldman Sachs called they said anybody who can achieve a guaranteed ROI of 1,000% compounded annually may now address the CEO directly.