My CPA Experience: A Newbie Tracking his Success (first 2 weeks and on)

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Hey Everyone, This is more like a journal for me to track how I am doing. I hope this helps "Noobs" to CPA, and provides some insight for others.

First, I followed everyones advice here on getting accepted. It's Simple! PICK UP THE PHONE and call! They are always very nice, and almost always aprove you on the phone!

My First 2 weeks:

My Mistakes:

-Did not test. I set up a offer and created a Adwords campaign. I got a couple leads, but did not bother to set up keyword-to-lead tracking.

-Did not reaserch the keywords.

-Started with too many offers. Should of concentrated on testing of 1, and moved on from there.

-(Honestly) expected people to help with every aspect, but found out, we are all on our own, and it's up to US to figure it out, and find out what works.

What has worked for me in the first 2 weeks

-Paused all campaigns, and really concentrated on 1 offer - Tracking it to HELL And BACK!

- Bought fellow WarriorForum's member Mike Morgan's CPA WSO - REALLY helped figure out how to set up campaign. No fluff!



Ok, so it's been 2 weeks now. My best day was spending $19 on adwords, and $80 in profits, and also did a $300 day.

I am still fine tuning everything, and will update this journal on whats working and whats not working.

Happy CPA'ing!
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  • Profile picture of the author relicon
    what were ya promoting and what were all the traffic sources?

    just curious..
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    • Profile picture of the author misterwrecker
      Originally Posted by relicon View Post

      what were ya promoting and what were all the traffic sources?

      just curious..

      Yea and make sure you ask only for the keywords that are converting too!
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        • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
          Originally Posted by bodenwieser View Post

          I would really recommend contacting local accounting firms starting next fall and finding out if they are hiring for tax preparers. It is too late for this year. Many of them offer classes you need to take to get hired.

          HUH??????????
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    Finding out nobody will help you every step of the way is a good lesson learned early on. This makes it slow going at first, but well worth the learning experience.

    Can't wait to see how it goes for you. Did you solve the keyword to lead tracking issue? This can be a big way to drill down to only converting keywords. Cut out the ones that don't convert well, and spend less money to get more clicks.
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Originally Posted by tjcocker View Post

      Finding out nobody will help you every step of the way is a good lesson learned early on. This makes it slow going at first, but well worth the learning experience.

      Can't wait to see how it goes for you. Did you solve the keyword to lead tracking issue? This can be a big way to drill down to only converting keywords. Cut out the ones that don't convert well, and spend less money to get more clicks.

      Well I think I did, im trying it out today.

      I just created a analytics code from adwords for "Leads" and uploaded it to the landing/purchase page, as a pixel code. So, it should show leads and keywords.

      If anyone has better advice, let me know. Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
        Originally Posted by mr.forex View Post

        Well I think I did, im trying it out today.

        I just created a analytics code from adwords for "Leads" and uploaded it to the landing/purchase page, as a pixel code. So, it should show leads and keywords.

        If anyone has better advice, let me know. Thanks!

        Mr .Forex,
        how did you create this pixel code,can you share it with us??
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        • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
          Originally Posted by BILLSBILLION View Post

          Mr .Forex,
          how did you create this pixel code,can you share it with us??

          Yup, I created it with the google adwords analytics.

          I have not %100 tested it out though, so take this with a grain of salt!
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  • Profile picture of the author relicon
    Hi Forex,

    My advice to you is..

    Spy on your competitors!

    I've been spying my competitors for so long now. I usually see them in articlebase.

    So yeah, spy on your competitors and copy and then improve their methods and use it as your own. It worked for me.

    A real example 2 days ago, I was spying on my competitors. I was analyzing and gathering niches that their new articles were in and they were promoting products and cpa offers in ezinesarticles and article base.

    And then I copied some of their niches and used article spinners and some article submitters to dominate the niche market.

    So if they were promoting "Remember Me Movie" in March 11, 2010. I would copy their articles and spin it and resubmit it 20 times using article submitters.

    I basically dominate the niche with all the keywords and different spinned articles to make money. I use that kind of style in youtube too.


    The Good news is, I'm making $200 day with FREE TRAFFIC using CPA offers(I NEVER USE PPC OR PAID TRAFFIC). I make that money because I spy, copy, and dominate it with automation.
    Oh yeah, I don't do clickbank or any affiliate marketing stuff. I only use CPA offers and CPAlead.


    Oh yeah, you'll see a lot of guys in articlebase that belongs to Warriorforum, especially Kenster, Mike Morgan, Dropship(loot4leads guy), and bravo75. I think I found their accounts with different names in high ranking article sites.

    I have a list of 20 competitors that I spy everyday. Trust me, spying is worth it! it's another alternative to google trends.
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Can you give an example, lets say on a "Work at home" offer?

      What would I do if I wanted to spy on someone who does good with same offer or type of offer?

      Thanks, really appreciate the feedback!


      Originally Posted by relicon View Post

      Hi Forex,

      My advice to you is..

      Spy on your competitors!

      I've been spying my competitors for so long now. I usually see them in articlebase.

      So yeah, spy on your competitors and copy and then improve their methods and use it as your own. It worked for me.

      A real example 2 days ago, I was spying on my competitors. I was analyzing and gathering niches that their new articles were in and they were promoting products and cpa offers in ezinesarticles and article base.

      And then I copied some of their niches and used article spinners and some article submitters to dominate the niche market.

      So if they were promoting "Remember Me Movie" in March 11, 2010. I would copy their articles and spin it and resubmit it 20 times using article submitters.

      I basically dominate the niche with all the keywords and different spinned articles to make money. I use that kind of style in youtube too.


      The Good news is, I'm making $200 day with FREE TRAFFIC using CPA offers(I NEVER USE PPC OR PAID TRAFFIC). I make that money because I spy, copy, and dominate it with automation.
      Oh yeah, I don't do clickbank or any affiliate marketing stuff. I only use CPA offers and CPAlead.


      Oh yeah, you'll see a lot of guys in articlebase that belongs to Warriorforum, especially Kenster, Mike Morgan, Dropship(loot4leads guy), and bravo75. I think I found their accounts with different names in high ranking article sites.

      I have a list of 20 competitors that I spy everyday. Trust me, spying is worth it! it's another alternative to google trends.
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      • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
        Ok, using the same offer still.

        Tried some techniques to "hone" in my best paying keywords.

        Today was not as good day.
        Results so far:

        Spent $51.94 on Campaign
        Income from Campaign: $105.00

        Need to modify it much further before I start to scale up.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjcocker
    Not bad. Keep us updated!
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  • Profile picture of the author CNP3
    here's my thing.. if you are goign to get into CPA, then TEST..
    I know you stated that as a mistake earlier, but you have to test first.

    The, once you found what you want, put it on the back end of one of you optin pages (I am assuming that you are bulding a list). And only engage in pay per lead deals... this way, when they optin to your offer, they are sent to the CPA offer. When they sign up there, you get paid.

    I have made around $10K in the last 3 months from doing this strategy alone...
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Thanks for all the words everyone.

      Today's Results: (TEST just means its with a $ limit on campaign.

      Offer 1: (TEST) Spent $7.90 on Adwords for a $40.00 Profit
      Offer 2: (TEST) Spent $4.98 on Adwords for a $35.00 profit
      Offer 3: (TEST) Spent $30.87 on Adwords for a $105.00 Profit.

      Few more days of fine tuning keywords and adds, and then im going to start to scale up.

      Advice to people just starting out:

      Be Scientific - Test, and track your results.

      A CPA campaign should be treated like a Scientific Experiement: You must test your experiement and TRACK your results. If something does not work, change it, and track the changes results.

      Have a good weekend everyone!
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  • Profile picture of the author kcom
    He's just trying to promote his signature link, look at the number of posts
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    • Profile picture of the author mprey
      Can you tell me, which verticals you are promoting, and also whether you use landing pages? many thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author prestige00
    Do you create your own landing pages for your tests? Also, what kind of networks are you with?
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Hey guys and girls.

      Update for anyone who is following my CPA experience. For those who are just joining us, I am new to CPA, but very dedicated to doing this right, and trying to show I can succeed.

      Thanks to this board, and the people for all the help along the way.

      Offer 1: Spent $13.65 on Adwords for profit of $80.00
      Offer 2: Spent 5.56 on Adwords for profit of $40.00
      Pffer 3: Spent $41.00 on adwords for profit of $210.00

      Few more days of testing, as these are JUST tests, and I will soon be ready to scale up!

      Tip's for today:

      If your campaign is not working, don't just trash it. Change it, tweek it until you see it turn around. All this done in test mode though.

      Really work on 1 offer at first until you see a winning formula. The confidence you will get from making just 1 offer work will help you succeed!

      Thats all I got folks. Happy CPA'ing!
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Hey Forex

    Very inspiring post. Keep up the great work and CPA/PPL definitely is the way forward! Congrats to your early successes.
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Appreciate it Nick. Still learning.



      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      Hey Forex

      Very inspiring post. Keep up the great work and CPA/PPL definitely is the way forward! Congrats to your early successes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joe Walter
    Nice job Forex,

    Keep it up!
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    • Profile picture of the author tapiatom
      I am also starting a similar venture but didn't quite know how to start. Thank you Mr. Forex for showing me that's possible. Keep up this great job!!
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      • Profile picture of the author tma
        I read Gaupher's report. You will learn more on cpahotspot.
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        • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
          Hey Everyone,

          Next week I will starting to scale up, so I will track it and report it here for people who are scaling up also.

          Best conversion to date yesterday: $5.65 on adwords for $119.00 Profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author arifsha
    Nice ...

    Can YOU Teach Us How You Can Got Approve at CPA networks And How You Can Make Money ???
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    • Profile picture of the author mr.forex
      Originally Posted by arifsha View Post

      Nice ...

      Can YOU Teach Us How You Can Got Approve at CPA networks And How You Can Make Money ???

      How to get approved: Just pick up the phone and call right when you sign up. Never just sign up, wait, and leave it. Always pick up the phone, and talk to them. I have never been NOT APPROVED when I talked to someone on the phone.

      Don't want to be cliche, but you have to learn your own methods.

      I can help with someone in particular, but you need to put in the work time!.

      Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author webdango
    mr.forex

    Are you driving straight to the offer's landing page, or are you building your own?

    I did the CPA/CPL thing for years and constantly ran afoul of Google quality score pushing up my bids, even when I drove right to the offer site.

    I tried 'long' offer pages, mini sites of 5 - 10 pages with the requisite About, Contact, Terms & Conditions, and Privacy, even auto-blogs set to add new contest 2 times a week. Nothing worked. Many of these sites woudl go out the gate stinrg, but sooner or later (within 2 months max) I'd log in one say and see all my min bids at $5 or higher.

    Ultimately, Google banned me from Adwords, even though I wasn't doing rebills or any sort of scammy stuff - I was doing lead gen and real products and not colon stuff or anti age, stuff like Little Giant Ladders, Upsidedown Tomatoes, etc....

    I'd been in Adwords since the start, have spent over 100,000 in years I used it, so I guess they felt they actually owed me an answer when I asked why, and the answer was 'too many thing content sites'.

    So I guess I'm sking

    what are you doing (CPA or CPL)
    and waht are you driving your clicks too

    Thanks-
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  • Profile picture of the author davidmt
    congrats Mrforex im following your journal.
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  • Profile picture of the author jtcne
    Hey Mr. Forex,

    This is a great thread. Any updates?

    Any more lessons learned? Have you found any tricks to help scale up the traffic and maintain conversions?

    Thanks!

    John
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  • Profile picture of the author bryce84
    Ya it looks like this thread just got abandon but im curious where things went... Mr. forex, I traded for 3 years but took up cpa when the euro dropped out got a margin call and now im here.... Not to mention the aud/jpy kicked me when I was down...
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  • Profile picture of the author KC-Coop
    Awesome job - looks like you are definitely on the right track.

    Testing is key to success in any paid traffic source, and tracking is just as important.

    I'm glad that you found out such key lessons early on - instead of struggling with them later after you had already burned money without them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Priyax
    Did you set up your own landing page?
    If so, how does it look (I mean like, is it professional looking with info, graphics, "click here now" button etc)?
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  • Profile picture of the author Phobos
    Stop posting on this thread. This guy is long gone.
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by Phobos View Post

      Stop posting on this thread. This guy is long gone.

      Where has he gone? And why stop posting?
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      • Profile picture of the author Vinod Kumar Jadge
        Wow I just started off with FB ad campaign and wanted to see others suggestions and advices.
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