What Was Your CPA "Tipping Point" to Big Profits?

by Dayne Dylan Banned
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For those of you who are more experienced in CPA offers and making money with them, tell us about when you went from struggling with CPA to tipping over into big success.

What happened?

What did you do or change?

How successful were you?

Share your first, big success stories here to inspire others
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

    For those of you who are more experienced in CPA offers and making money with them, tell us about when you went from struggling with CPA to tipping over into big success.

    What happened?

    What did you do or change?

    How successful were you?

    Share your first, big success stories here to inspire others

    What happened?

    For me it was a few campaigns (perhaps luck) that did well (relative to anything else I was doing at the time) and that gave me the hugest rush of motivation and dedication to CPA.

    Also, I learned that I can't rely on others. I had to rely on finding answers for myself. I took action on every crazy idea that entered my mind and wasnt afraid to fail. Most ideas failed, but the constant churning of failures led to some big campaigns. Constant tracking, testing and the rest is history.


    What did you do or change?

    Probably just mindset as I briefly went into above. I realized that the big boys werent doing anything different than I was, they just spent more time optimizing campaigns. Campaigns that I had hovering at break even, they optimized to black and super black campaigns. So I changed my mindset in terms of methodically optimizing.

    How successful were you?

    At first I was mildly successful. Success varied greatly though because a bulk of my income hinged on just 2 or 3 campaigns, so if 1 died, my income got cut in half.

    From then on and very much currently, I focus on creating as many income streams as possible, no matter how big or small. I would rather have many small streams than a handful of big ones. Goal became creating a sustainable business model rather than just make money!
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    • Profile picture of the author Jag82
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      From then on and very much currently, I focus on creating as many income streams as possible, no matter how big or small. I would rather have many small streams than a handful of big ones. Goal became creating a sustainable business model rather than just make money!
      Great share Kenster.

      Looks like diversification has worked well for you.

      For me...I take a slightly different approach.

      I prefer to focus. The pareto rule states that
      20% of your activities will lead to 80% of the result.

      I evaluable what works the best for me, and
      I focus on the highest value 20%.

      Best,
      Jag
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

        Great share Kenster.

        Looks like diversification has worked well for you.

        For me...I take a slightly different approach.

        I prefer to focus. The pareto rule states that
        20% of your activities will lead to 80% of the result.

        I evaluable what works the best for me, and
        I focus on the highest value 20%.

        Best,
        Jag

        Nice share Jag!

        Yeah I actually do keep the 80/20 in mind in anything I do. But I have found it pretty amazing how transferable that 20% can be into other areas of IM. And diversification has many facets. You can diversify within CPA, diversify meaning making sure you are working on numerous campaigns and different niches etc. You can still focus on your 20% but do that within numerous niches and narrow constraints.


        So yes, for me, my goal getting into this crazy world of IM was to create a sustainable source of income and gradually work less, not more. Knowing how fast the internet world changes, especially in terms of IM, I made it a priority to make sure I have many income streams. Now I know that no matter what happens, I can move to Swaziland for a year and never see a computer for the next year and not be worried about my income drying up. Even if a few income streams dry up, there are others that should be working for me!

        Paretos a great principle though!
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        • Profile picture of the author Jag82
          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          And diversification has many facets. You can diversify within CPA, diversify meaning making sure you are working on numerous campaigns and different niches etc. You can still focus on your 20% but do that within numerous niches and narrow constraints.
          Agreed.

          I just want to also add that by being "focused",
          it doesn't necessarily mean just doing ONE thing.

          It can be several. But all narrowly themed
          and relevant.

          The key is not being spread out too thinly and
          getting negligible results instead.

          Warren Buffett, the greatest investor of all time,
          is also a great proponent about the concept
          of focus.

          And he has this to say:

          - Your top 5 ideas is better than your
          top 100 ideas.

          It's better to be extremely strong in a
          core few than being average in a ton of
          other stuff.

          I think we are on the same page, Kenster!

          - Jag
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          • Profile picture of the author Kenster
            Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

            Agreed.

            I just want to also add that by being "focused",
            it doesn't necessarily mean just doing ONE thing.

            It can be several. But all narrowly themed
            and relevant.

            The key is not being spread out too thinly and
            getting negligible results instead.

            Warren Buffett, the greatest investor of all time,
            is also a great proponent about the concept
            of focus.

            And he has this to say:

            - Your top 5 ideas is better than your
            top 100 ideas.

            It's better to be extremely strong in a
            core few than being average in a ton of
            other stuff.

            I think we are on the same page, Kenster!

            - Jag

            Agreed!

            and think about how many companies and businesses Warren Buffet is involved with, either as owner, on the board, etc. He focuses on what he does best, but what he does best is transferable to numerous businesses.

            A man we should all study! I had the pleasure of watching him speak 2 years ago and meeting him (shaking his hand and saying hi...thats about it) and he is truly inspirational. Always manages to bring simple analogies to complex senarios with ease. but i digress
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            • Profile picture of the author Jag82
              Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

              and think about how many companies and businesses Warren Buffet is involved with, either as owner, on the board, etc. He focuses on what he does best, but what he does best is transferable to numerous businesses.

              A man we should all study! I had the pleasure of watching him speak 2 years ago and meeting him (shaking his hand and saying hi...thats about it) and he is truly inspirational. Always manages to bring simple analogies to complex senarios with ease. but i digress
              You met Warren Buffett?

              Wow. I'm envious already.

              It's not everyday one can get up
              close to a living legend.

              He's not just a brilliant
              investor. He is a brilliant business man.

              And as marketers, we can all learn
              from his wisdom.

              Cheers,
              Jag
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    • Profile picture of the author thetruth23
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      What happened?

      For me it was a few campaigns (perhaps luck) that did well (relative to anything else I was doing at the time) and that gave me the hugest rush of motivation and dedication to CPA.

      Also, I learned that I can't rely on others. I had to rely on finding answers for myself. I took action on every crazy idea that entered my mind and wasnt afraid to fail. Most ideas failed, but the constant churning of failures led to some big campaigns. Constant tracking, testing and the rest is history.


      What did you do or change?

      Probably just mindset as I briefly went into above. I realized that the big boys werent doing anything different than I was, they just spent more time optimizing campaigns. Campaigns that I had hovering at break even, they optimized to black and super black campaigns. So I changed my mindset in terms of methodically optimizing.

      How successful were you?

      At first I was mildly successful. Success varied greatly though because a bulk of my income hinged on just 2 or 3 campaigns, so if 1 died, my income got cut in half.

      From then on and very much currently, I focus on creating as many income streams as possible, no matter how big or small. I would rather have many small streams than a handful of big ones. Goal became creating a sustainable business model rather than just make money!
      Kenster, that's awesome man. And Inspirational.

      I've seen your Rags to Riches program and want to get a copy of it eventually. Is it your latest piece of work or do you have something more current?

      Only reason I haven't got it yet is because I'm working on another method of IM and being a newb wanted to concentrate on getting that down first!

      I'll get it soon though dude! =)
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Jag82 View Post

        You met Warren Buffett?

        Wow. I'm envious already.

        It's not everyday one can get up
        close to a living legend.

        He's not just a brilliant
        investor. He is a brilliant business man.

        And as marketers, we can all learn
        from his wisdom.

        Cheers,
        Jag

        As I said, with a very loose definition of "met" then yes I met him. A handshake a hello is more of a brush than a meeting though!

        Originally Posted by thetruth23 View Post

        Kenster, that's awesome man. And Inspirational.

        I've seen your Rags to Riches program and want to get a copy of it eventually. Is it your latest piece of work or do you have something more current?

        Only reason I haven't got it yet is because I'm working on another method of IM and being a newb wanted to concentrate on getting that down first!

        I'll get it soon though dude! =)

        Yes, DO NOT BUY RAGS TO RICHES. For people to do well, they need to focus and not jump around. I would hate to see you add another hunk of content to your arsenal which will distract you from your current methods. Focus on what you are doing and you will have a much better chance of succeeding.

        And thats what its all about..succeeding!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    AWESOME Kenster! Love it!

    Thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Honestly, it started off with some luck for me, was doing everything wrong, but got really lucky, made lots of money - reinvested, lost a ton, but learned.. used the knowledge and leftover money to do good
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    • Profile picture of the author Cash37
      Find the traffic first, master that platform, figure out what works there, then expand to similar platforms.
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    • Profile picture of the author Freeman77
      The tipping point for me occurred when I started to find unique traffic sources, and started innovating new ways to promote offers. I had to have the discipline to ignore whatever popular trends were out there.

      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Honestly, it started off with some luck for me, was doing everything wrong, but got really lucky, made lots of money - reinvested, lost a ton, but learned.. used the knowledge and leftover money to do good
      This was nicely put -- there is definitely an element of luck, especially if you're concentrating on paid traffic and need to build your bankroll.

      Personally, a "ready, fire, aim" mindset works for me -- I take action, observe the results, tweak it, and by the time it's profitable it's completely different than when I started.

      Strangle, I've often benefited from ignorance -- instead of getting everyone's opinion, I would just go out and test stuff, and surprisingly a lot of things worked. I found myself promoting CPA offers that hardly anyone else was promoting.

      With a little luck, you'll develop something that gets you a positive ROI, and then you reinvest what you've earned. As you make progress, you get a much better sense of what might work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Amir Khan
    A original marketing campaign on a otherwise dead nieche
    I recorded several youtube videos as a mii series to push a offer this is when i saw my first real money, and this was 4 months ago, and im still earning from it
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    I could put a link here in the hope of gaining a click in exchange for revealing my niche?

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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

    For those of you who are more experienced in CPA offers and making money with them, tell us about when you went from struggling with CPA to tipping over into big success.

    What happened?
    I stopped trying to find one campaign that was a huge producer and started looking for 10 that could produce smaller consistent amounts daily.

    Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

    What did you do or change?
    I stopped ready about uber affiliates doing $500,000 per month, (revenue only mind you) and started treating my cpa business as a business. I didn't want one big one, I wanted at least 10 little ones just chugging along. I changed my mindset and it worked. It's far easier to get a campaign to $50 per day or $100 per day then to $1,000 or $5,000 per day.

    Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

    How successful were you?
    I still use this to this day. Now I do ok with it.

    Originally Posted by Dayne Dylan View Post

    Share your first, big success stories here to inspire others
    My first biggest success was promoting UK secured loan leads back in 2004. I was pulling in huge numbers daily. Loan companies were paying $180 to $250 per application. These were long forms though. 10 apps per day meant pretty good money. BUT when the credit crisis hit the US, it affected the global economy and the loan companies stopped lending as freely as they used to. I went from making huge dollars per month to peanuts overnight. I never thought THAT market would collapse but it did.

    That spurred my safer approach to CPA marketing. I spread myself around now a lot. I sleep better at night too because if one or two or three of my profitable campaigns dies overnight, I'll live as I've got another bunch in there still producing their "little trickle".

    It's just like stock investing. If you put all your money into one company, you may get a huge payoff but you may also lose everything. It's a huge risk. It's better to have a diversified portfolio of stocks for safety.
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  • Profile picture of the author georgetull
    Inspiring posts guys. Makes me wanna work. Appreciate it!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by georgetull View Post

      Inspiring posts guys. Makes me wanna work. Appreciate it!
      Whatever you find inspiring, print it and put it on yoru desk somewhere to see all the time.

      Wanting to work is the main first step. The real important step however is actually doing the learning and then taking the action.

      To Your Prosperity and Success my friend!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dayne Dylan
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    LOVING these success stories, keep 'em coming! Thanks to everyone so far who has posted!
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    I started off spamming back in the day so the money was a lot easier. When I went whitehat I went straight into media buying with the same campaigns that I was spamming, using very similar creatives.

    Lost about 15,000 before I broke even then quickly moved up promoting mobile offers. Great feeling!
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