Why not start your own CPA Network?

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Ok everyone wants to know how to become a super affiliate for these networks. Great. But isn't actually owning a network where the real money is?

With the small exception, no-one seems to go this way? Reasons?

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  • Profile picture of the author peterdavid
    It involved a lot of things.
    First, technology - Whatever in-house or third party, it costly.
    Second, manpower - It's not easy to grow the network by one people
    Third, Money - Why those network raise so many round of VC, multi million of dollars, because business idea is free, to acheive it consume money.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    yeah I guess so.....but I have noticed so many networks close down so fast. 3 I signed up for last month have now gone.....Like all businesses I suppsoe it's tough to get going.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    There are tons of networks out there and many people are doign it. It does involve money and capital risk but can be extremely lucrative.

    On the affiliate side, once you start generating a good amount of traffic and know what you are doing, you gain power in terms of increasing payout if working with a network, or bypassing the network completely.

    I dont think starting a network is as easy as it may sound, but it admittedly is easier these days than in the past because of advances and availability of tracking software.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

    Ok everyone wants to know how to become a super affiliate for these networks. Great. But isn't actually owning a network where the real money is?

    With the small exception, no-one seems to go this way? Reasons?

    Thx
    Being a merchant is where the real money is, networks take a portion (say 10-20%) of affiliate sales/commission, so with networks it's a real volume game. Also with owning a network you need to worry about a lot more BS, such as advertisers not paying, affiliates committing fraud, etc. You also need a HUGE bank roll to get started.

    Hopefully Ryan or Steve will chime in and share there experiences. All I know is it's not as glamorous as it sounds
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    • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Stephen
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Being a merchant is where the real money is, networks take a portion (say 10-20%) of affiliate sales/commission, so with networks it's a real volume game. Also with owning a network you need to worry about a lot more BS, such as advertisers not paying, affiliates committing fraud, etc. You also need a HUGE bank roll to get started.

      Hopefully Ryan or Steve will chime in and share there experiences. All I know is it's not as glamorous as it sounds
      I am no expert don't get me wrong but with the money on the merchant side, comes an exuberant amount of risk like others have mentioned...if you're a publisher, you're dealing with a network, you have a day to day contact, a company to guide and float money for you (hopefully if you're in the right network), and so on....

      A network is dealing with both publishers and affiliates (obviously) and have a loads of issues to work through...managing cash flow, setting up tracking, building strong sub divisions for their network (IT, AM's, AE's, Design, Accounting, ETC)...

      If you're a merchant company, you're dealing with MC, Visa, AMEX...completely different ball game in my opinion.

      Each entity has positives and negatives though...

      I'm a firm believer this industry thrives sometimes on duplication; at the affiliate level, network level, advertiser level, and so on...However, I'm also a believer that the constant duplication brings more bad than good in some respects....

      As an affiliate, you are already in tune with that side of the business, I'm sure you deal with networks on a daily basis and have an understanding of how they work and what they need to survive...how about taking your experiences and knowledge and identify a need that one or both groups have and try to create a unique solution for that need? what that solutuion is? Not sure and i'll leave that up to you to answer...

      Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author adferger1
    I think it is because it requires alot of work, staff, money and alot of time before it actually start to earn you any money
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    • Profile picture of the author behnk01
      You can't just start a network. You need a combination of immense resources, big startup capital (think 50k+), and a team to help you start it. If you don't get over the initial hump, by working say, 70 hrs/wk your venture will fail. As for starting a network with one of those rolled out tracking platforms like *********, if you run on that platform, no affiliates will run with your network because they'll know you're a tier 2 network. Good luck!! haha
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      • Profile picture of the author ManofBliss
        Originally Posted by behnk01 View Post

        You can't just start a network. You need a combination of immense resources, big startup capital (think 50k+), and a team to help you start it. If you don't get over the initial hump, by working say, 70 hrs/wk your venture will fail. As for starting a network with one of those rolled out tracking platforms like *********, if you run on that platform, no affiliates will run with your network because they'll know you're a tier 2 network. Good luck!! haha
        What the **** are you talking about?

        You absolutely CAN start your own network. You don't have to be a "god". I know multiple people who have, and one of them has turned it into a very well known network too. These are just regular people who did what it took.

        Reread your post and see how ****ing negative it is.

        Kenster, the answer to your question is that you can start your own network. But that's not necessarily where the locus of control is in this industry.

        You want to own the advertising system, i.e. ppc/cpv/search

        It's the core infrastructure we all DEPEND on.

        Networks, merchants, affiliates all need the system more than the system needs them.

        (But ultimately, the true locus of power is the end user, the searcher/shopper/surfer. Without them nothing else would exist.)
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        • Profile picture of the author bigbrian
          There is a lot of money in running the offer, but running an offer isn't no easy task. Once volume comes in the whole process of "running the offer" becomes a BIG TASk.... You have merchant accounts, chargebacks, customer service, and backend fraud tracking. You seriously have to have your backend code tight if you plan to run a successful offer - because believe me... The fraud rolls in and it rolls in quick and fast. You can't rely on the network you are pushing the offer through to be your shield against fraud because if you do you will be sorry.

          There is also a whole laundry list of logic you need to have coded into the backend of an offer to make it "successful". Then to top all that off if you are running negative option billing (which is a bit tough nowadays because of the new regs) you have your MIDs to worry about, and if you lose the consistent volume, your MIDs will die, banks will freeze payments, and now you owe large sums of money to the networks (if you didn't prepay already). That 1% threshold doesn't go very far on a MID ;]

          There is money in running your own offer, but the bankroll still needs to be there as well. It's no walk in the park, that's for sure!

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          • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
            Originally Posted by bigbrian View Post

            There is a lot of money in running the offer, but running an offer isn't no easy task. Once volume comes in the whole process of "running the offer" becomes a BIG TASk.... You have merchant accounts, chargebacks, customer service, and backend fraud tracking. You seriously have to have your backend code tight if you plan to run a successful offer - because believe me... The fraud rolls in and it rolls in quick and fast. You can't rely on the network you are pushing the offer through to be your shield against fraud because if you do you will be sorry.

            There is also a whole laundry list of logic you need to have coded into the backend of an offer to make it "successful". Then to top all that off if you are running negative option billing (which is a bit tough nowadays because of the new regs) you have your MIDs to worry about, and if you lose the consistent volume, your MIDs will die, banks will freeze payments, and now you owe large sums of money to the networks (if you didn't prepay already). That 1% threshold doesn't go very far on a MID ;]

            There is money in running your own offer, but the bankroll still needs to be there as well. It's no walk in the park, that's for sure!

            Brian
            Good stuff. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
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            • Profile picture of the author soboer
              It seems like hasoffers.com take a lot of work out of your hands if you want to run a network. You only need affiliates to work for you. But that is my first impression when I saw their products. I believe theres a lot of headaches involved, but I think if you get the hang of it, you can make a lot of easy money.
              There are also a lot of new cpa networks popping up, so it must be lucrative.
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      • Profile picture of the author bqpennell
        Originally Posted by behnk01 View Post

        You can't just start a network. You need a combination of immense resources, big startup capital (think 50k+), and a team to help you start it. If you don't get over the initial hump, by working say, 70 hrs/wk your venture will fail. As for starting a network with one of those rolled out tracking platforms like *********, if you run on that platform, no affiliates will run with your network because they'll know you're a tier 2 network. Good luck!! haha
        i know what ****** is and i don't agree, your problem is you seen too many of these start up where all there offers are brokered and they offer the lowest pay out, i run a small private network with that platform and i do have several broker offers as well but i know i pay more then a lot of exclusive networks let alone the random guy that just goes out and starts to add brokered offers i will give two examples of ads i run with this platform

        Insurance email submit most ***** type platforms pay 1.25 to 2.00 i got one paying $3.00 per lead

        My web products is my second ad type, most them platforms networks pay 1.00 to 2.50 with very very few just making it to 3.00, i have one that is $3.25 and 2 that are 3.15

        Its not the platforms fault for low paying brokered offers its the network owner who is to lazy to go out and get the best deals on offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author adsquare
    IMHO... Merchant > Affiliate > Network... $$$ wise. It can be different order... just depends where you focus/your hustle.

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  • Profile picture of the author lionstarmedia
    So who wants to team up and start a network?
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  • Profile picture of the author ptpatil
    Yea, it involves a lot of things, plus you have to get two things together, affiliates and advertisers. One doesnt come without the other, its tough unless you have a sizeable bankroll.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Herrie
    I read some where that it sometimes takes a year for these networks to get their money from the advertisers,Not only that but if there are any discrepancy in their findings they may choose and have a right to choose not to pay at all...
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    If your making money as an affiliate: stick to it.

    Networks run direct and have to float long terms (net30s), assume huge risk (if they don't pay) and make the least amount of money (small % profit).
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      If your making money as an affiliate: stick to it.

      Networks run direct and have to float long terms (net30s), assume huge risk (if they don't pay) and make the least amount of money (small % profit).

      Think about the source this is coming from...the man at EWA.

      I think Ryan is spot on though. I'm sure there are networks (and perhaps his) that are doing very nice, but if you are good as an affiliate, just stick in that space. Different strokes for different folks.

      I've never had the opportunity to actually see all the finances of a major network. Boy would that be interesting :p
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    • Profile picture of the author blillard
      I peeped this thread just hear what Ryan had to say about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPATrendPhil
    Ryan hit the nail on the head.

    My network is certainly new compared to many others that have been around and have big names which most people are familiar with in the industry. However, one of the essential parts of a network is having financial backing. I am fortunate enough to have the financial backing of an offline business I own, which allows me to pay affiliates out of pocket (when necessary) in the cases where for example, we're being paid NET-30 or NET-15 and we pay out our affiliates NET-15, bi-weekly, or weekly.

    Not only that, you need to really have an understanding of every aspect of affiliate marketing, and be able to deal with every aspect of it, rather than simply perceiving it from one side (either the affiliate side or the advertiser side). You also have to have extreme organizational skills, communication skills, etc.

    If you are able to do all of these things, there's no reason you shouldn't start your own network. It's really not a simple thing to do though. There's tons of legal aspects that you'll also need to familiarize yourself with, speak to lawyers, accountants (or moreso have them on payroll), etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeadBolt
    Hasoffers has an offer exchange now...

    bascially you can tunnel offers from one network to your own. HO takes a piece but theres no setup....

    its pretty nice
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    • Profile picture of the author soboer
      Originally Posted by LeadBolt View Post

      Hasoffers has an offer exchange now...

      bascially you can tunnel offers from one network to your own. HO takes a piece but theres no setup....

      its pretty nice
      How does it work? Can you still run your own network and use the offers from other networks if you do not have your own offers?
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  • Profile picture of the author samualdany
    Many people have been doing it and there are numerous networks out there. It can be really a lucrative thing though it has its capital risks..
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  • Profile picture of the author Seantrepreneur
    Too much hassle! Of coruse thats where the BIG money is, but I would perfer to have my extra time to enjoy life! Thats not to say I don't want that big money. Just not owning a network big . Just my 2 cent.
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    The difficulty is getting the advertisers involved. Once you get those the publishers will be on you!
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      • Profile picture of the author magicmarcus
        two reasons...

        legal and lifestyle.

        if i can make a decent income from home chilling with my family every day im gonna keep on doing that. ive been in this industry 10 years now and there is nothing i would trade for my time freedom and home freedom.

        running a network takes a different mindset. sure you can make a ton - but at what cost.

        i think sometimes we all get the "i can make more" bug and forget that we made this business for us... so we can have freedom and live the way we want.

        a lot of my friends run networks and while they enjoy the life and do great... its just not for me... i prefer to do my own thing.

        also running a network can be a legal nightmare if you are not prepared for it.

        be a creative affiliate marketer and the sky is the limit :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author mikekimm
          A good affiliate will earn more profits than 90% of the affiliate networks out there.

          90% of you will tell me i dont know what i am talking about but the affiliate has it the easiest in this business. Low risk, little overhead and big rewards.
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          • Profile picture of the author CPATrendPhil
            Originally Posted by mikekimm View Post

            A good affiliate will earn more profits than 90% of the affiliate networks out there.

            90% of you will tell me i dont know what i am talking about but the affiliate has it the easiest in this business. Low risk, little overhead and big rewards.
            You do know what you're talking about. At CPATrend, we make very low margins compared to some networks. A lot people can verify this if they have an idea of what we're getting for particular offers, but obviously this is kept under wraps. Anyway, CPA networks are all about the amount of affiliates pushing volume, which eventually adds up to a good amount. However, we (and all networks) pay out a LOT more than we make profit. A lot..
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      I almost invite people to try to start a network, the ones that succeed are far and few between.

      The overwhelming consensus is that starting a network is a piece of cake but starting a sustainable network and growing it is a tough gig.

      There is a lot of garbage in this industry that happens and networks are at ground zero of this garbage. Besides needing tremendous volume and affiliates to make up for low margins, networks need to constantly deal with fraud prevention and control and deal with countless advertisers and affiliates who dont always see eye to eye.

      There are networks that run extremely efficiently and make money as I would imagine EWA does, but the network owners put in a lot of heart, sweat, and stress on a daily basis I would imagine! I would gather that in general, there is normally less stress on the affiliate side.
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      • Profile picture of the author CPATrendPhil
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        There are networks that run extremely efficiently and make money as I would imagine EWA does, but the network owners put in a lot of heart, sweat, and stress on a daily basis I would imagine! I would gather that in general, there is normally less stress on the affiliate side.
        Can I get an amen?!
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by CPATrendPhil View Post

          Can I get an amen?!

          Let me give you a double Amen Amen so I meet the minimum character threshold
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          • Profile picture of the author CEaman
            It is not that easy Buddy!! Lot of things to deal with and most important thing is to fight the competition and create win win situation!
            Anyways Best of luck if you are planning to go ahead!
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  • Profile picture of the author XavierColas85
    The CPA Network niche is very comparative and it is very capital intensive as well, one but once settled in it can generate great profit.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hyphen
    Strange that we have a bunch of network owners in here preaching about how networks aren't where the real money is at and how it's sooo hard.

    Not enough time to preach upon the original post at the moment, but I just wanted to make note of that!
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    • Profile picture of the author TJComer02
      Originally Posted by Hyphen View Post

      Strange that we have a bunch of network owners in here preaching about how networks aren't where the real money is at and how it's sooo hard.

      Not enough time to preach upon the original post at the moment, but I just wanted to make note of that!
      I think these guys (I know some personally very well) are saying that because it's true. Yes of course they're making money or they wouldn't be doing it, BUT, they've also got connections, money, and experience on their side that most don't have. It's just like anything. Some businesses are hard to run and alot of headache, it just takes a special type of person to run it. Like Ken says, it just depends on your personality
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      • Profile picture of the author Hyphen
        Alright, I've got some time now.

        Originally Posted by TJComer02 View Post

        I think these guys (I know some personally very well) are saying that because it's true. Yes of course they're making money or they wouldn't be doing it, BUT, they've also got connections, money, and experience on their side that most don't have. It's just like anything. Some businesses are hard to run and alot of headache, it just takes a special type of person to run it. Like Ken says, it just depends on your personality
        My issue with the thread wasn't the difference in mindsets or difficulty, but more the fact that a couple people have come and said outright, "Affiliates make more money than networks." Realistically, I can't exactly agree with that and this is coming from someone who owns a small, new network. How many percent of affiliates make more on a daily basis than an A4D, Neverblue, CPALead, etc.? I'd have to assume that's not many at all, and just because there's a 1% base of affiliates in the world who might be super affiliates and might make better cash on the day, I don't think that's enough to say, "Affiliates make more than networks!"

        Originally Posted by CPATrendPhil View Post

        The real money isn't in running a network. The "most real" money is on the advertiser side, and the real money is on the affiliate side. You have to remember that networks only take margins and don't make a lot of money off of affiliates who are making even $1,000 a day. It's all about the volume that networks are able to produce amongst lots of publishers. And trust me, I welcome anybody to try to open a network. I've been through a lot to bring my network to the point that it's at now within the past 8 months. It's constant headaches, constant issues, and incredibly time consuming. But I love it -- like Ken and TJ said, you really need the personality and mindset to be able to deal with all of that.
        Well, as the owner of a network you're much closer to be able to transfer to the advertiser's side much sooner and easier. And yes, obviously you're not making amazing money off of a single super affiliate or anything, everyone knows that much. I approach this situation as, "Would I rather one affiliate making a grand on the day?" opposed to, "Would I rather run a network of 2000 affiliates who are making an average of $60 a day while I pluck off 5%?" When we're talking big volume here, it's very clear to see who's making the big money. Then you have to consider the benefits of running internal traffic and things like that, there are a lot of benefits that make the network a more profitable approach.

        I'm not at all going to argue about it not being easy, because it definitely isn't.

        Originally Posted by harro1 View Post

        If tiny networks like wolf storm media and convert2media can survive then i think anyone can become a network owner and start making profits. ; )
        C2M is hardly tiny!
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by Hyphen View Post

          Alright, I've got some time now.


          My issue with the thread wasn't the difference in mindsets or difficulty, but more the fact that a couple people have come and said outright, "Affiliates make more money than networks." Realistically, I can't exactly agree with that and this is coming from someone who owns a small, new network. How many percent of affiliates make more on a daily basis than an A4D, Neverblue, CPALead, etc.? I'd have to assume that's not many at all, and just because there's a 1% base of affiliates in the world who might be super affiliates and might make better cash on the day, I don't think that's enough to say, "Affiliates make more than networks!"


          Well, as the owner of a network you're much closer to be able to transfer to the advertiser's side much sooner and easier. And yes, obviously you're not making amazing money off of a single super affiliate or anything, everyone knows that much. I approach this situation as, "Would I rather one affiliate making a grand on the day?" opposed to, "Would I rather run a network of 2000 affiliates who are making an average of $60 a day while I pluck off 5%?" When we're talking big volume here, it's very clear to see who's making the big money. Then you have to consider the benefits of running internal traffic and things like that, there are a lot of benefits that make the network a more profitable approach.

          I'm not at all going to argue about it not being easy, because it definitely isn't.


          C2M is hardly tiny!


          I think the truth is that any one of the three parties can make a crapload of money. Advertisers can make a ton and build huge lists to make a ton into the future. Big networks can make a ton and so can super affiliates. I don't think there's a clear winner here.

          Look at affiliates. The average affiliate probably doesn't make much. A bunch of people come play with CPA for a week or two then quit. Then you have the mid range guys making a few hundred to a thousand a day, and then those in the few thousand and then the super affiliates in the 10-20+ a day. The average affiliate is probably making an avaerage amount of money.

          Networks. It's easy to point at the top 20 networks and say that networks are making the most. Those top 20 are probably making a crapload, but you have to remember, just like the affiliate side, there are many many networks that dont do well and that come and go just like affiliates. So just like on the affiliate side, you need to be one of the better networks to make anything crazy. The average CPA network probably makes an average amount.

          Advertisers. Advertisers are a bit different because its probably a bit harder to become an advertiser and a lot of advertisers morph from the affiliate or network side. So I bet the average advertiser actually makes more than the average network or average affiliate. But its not an easy task to even get onto this side.

          Just speculation on my part.

          Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author CPATrendPhil
      Originally Posted by Hyphen View Post

      Strange that we have a bunch of network owners in here preaching about how networks aren't where the real money is at and how it's sooo hard.

      Not enough time to preach upon the original post at the moment, but I just wanted to make note of that!
      The real money isn't in running a network. The "most real" money is on the advertiser side, and the real money is on the affiliate side. You have to remember that networks only take margins and don't make a lot of money off of affiliates who are making even $1,000 a day. It's all about the volume that networks are able to produce amongst lots of publishers. And trust me, I welcome anybody to try to open a network. I've been through a lot to bring my network to the point that it's at now within the past 8 months. It's constant headaches, constant issues, and incredibly time consuming. But I love it -- like Ken and TJ said, you really need the personality and mindset to be able to deal with all of that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

        I almost invite people to try to start a network, the ones that succeed are far and few between.
        Originally Posted by CPATrendPhil View Post

        The real money isn't in running a network. The "most real" money is on the advertiser side, and the real money is on the affiliate side. You have to remember that networks only take margins and don't make a lot of money off of affiliates who are making even $1,000 a day. It's all about the volume that networks are able to produce amongst lots of publishers. And trust me, I welcome anybody to try to open a network. I've been through a lot to bring my network to the point that it's at now within the past 8 months. It's constant headaches, constant issues, and incredibly time consuming. But I love it -- like Ken and TJ said, you really need the personality and mindset to be able to deal with all of that.

        I give you both super credit. I am a masochist by nature but I think running and growing a successful CPA network is even more than I can handle haha
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    I agree with TJ ~ brings back the whole "grass is greener" proverb. Sure networks are making money and network owners are busting their humps in the process. Sure affiliates are making tons of money and busting their humps doign it. When looking across the fence, its easy to focus on the benefits and put blinders on the negatives.

    The network owner sees the affiliate earning massive commission checks but may not know the costs or time involved in those massive checks.

    The affiliate sees the network taking a small piece of their very large commissions and assumes that the network is making a ton by just facilitating the whole CPA process without realizing the risks and work involved.


    At the end of the day, both sides can be extremely lucrative but are very different roles suited for different types of people.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukinara
    lol, I guess anyone want to start their own network has a simple way of thinking:"hey I can't make money as affiliate, now I just need to open a network, recruit some affiliates and make those people work their asses off for me, I will become the middle man and take the money while doing nothing"

    too bad, the reality is not that easy, if you feel like you can do it, just go for it, we will see.........
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  • Profile picture of the author harro1
    If tiny networks like wolf storm media and convert2media can survive then i think anyone can become a network owner and start making profits. ; )
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    • Profile picture of the author MattataX
      Originally Posted by melwinmendonca02 View Post

      The CPA Network niche is very relative and it is very primary intense as well, one but once located in it can give large profit.
      All your posts make no sense, are copied from others and rewritten in terrible english and are designed to increase your post count... GTFO

      Once located...? CPA Network niche? hahaha
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

    Ok everyone wants to know how to become a super affiliate for these networks. Great. But isn't actually owning a network where the real money is?

    With the small exception, no-one seems to go this way? Reasons?

    Thx
    Yes and no.

    The margins are very slim for any network ... plus recruitiing affiliates and making them perform is not that easy. It also involves a lot of administrative work (payments, contracts, server, database, etc) so its not as easy as you might think.

    But its a business like anything else.

    Any questions just let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author tsbberlin
    I would tend to agree with peterdavid's response. I represent a successful CPA network (Sponsormob), but it did not become what it is overnight. There is a hefty investment of time, work, and drive to start and maintain a successful CPA network.

    Particularly important is the technology side of things, which can make or break a network. I believe this aspect is one reason there are not more people out there trying to start their own networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jointaldc
    There's a lot of investmests and risks involved. 1 person is definitely not enough to run a CPA network, you have to buy the software, and you have to stay vigilante and be very involved with your customers. There are a lot of CPA networks out there, and many close because of fraudulent leads. Just another CPA network killer...
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  • Profile picture of the author rain21
    starting a CPA network is not very difficult if can find good offers from companies... but most people tend to be just affiliates I think...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Francis
    Networks do have money but you need a large bank roll to begin making the big money , not forgetting the costs of hiring staff and planning and monitoring your affiliates.

    Personally , I would rather be an affiliate then a network , less work and higher ROI , if you do your marketing right on PPC , PPV and media buys . I'm an advertiser as well and believe me , it's not as easy as people say it is . You have to deal with fraud , come out with a whole chunk of cash because just about all networks only accept prepay and your merchant normally pays you within 30 days .

    example :

    I get 100 leads a day at 45$ a lead , thats 4500$ a day for 30 days which is 135000$ a month .

    It takes 1 month because the clients get billed within 14 days and another 2 weeks for payment from merchant .

    PS : If your merchant goes bad on you you'll be down 6 figures , see how crazy being an advertiser is ? I had 200k$ back up and I merely survived
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  • Profile picture of the author BankruptcyRules
    I purchased a very interesting E-Book the other day which basically shows you how to start you Own CPA Network A CPA network basically brings advertisers (people selling stuff) & publishers (people who promote stuff) together & takes a cut of profits, Of course starting your own CPA network would usually cost thousands of dollars but this E-Book shows you a way to do it by simply joining an existing CPA network & using their offers to create your own CPA network!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mark Francis
      Originally Posted by BankruptcyRules View Post

      I purchased a very interesting E-Book the other day which basically shows you how to start you Own CPA Network A CPA network basically brings advertisers (people selling stuff) & publishers (people who promote stuff) together & takes a cut of profits, Of course starting your own CPA network would usually cost thousands of dollars but this E-Book shows you a way to do it by simply joining an existing CPA network & using their offers to create your own CPA network!
      That's called brokering now a new model mate , EWA uses it or at least used to use it .

      Let me tell you the problem with that :

      1) You can pay affiliates less.
      2) Advertisers will hate you and judge your networks traffic strictly maybe not even pay you .
      3) You need lots of $ to promote your network .
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Mark Francis View Post

        That's called brokering now a new model mate , EWA uses it or at least used to use it .

        Let me tell you the problem with that :

        1) You can pay affiliates less.
        2) Advertisers will hate you and judge your networks traffic strictly maybe not even pay you .
        3) You need lots of $ to promote your network .


        Its amazing how many offers are brokered re-brokered and re-re-brokered. Clearly the further down the line you go the less payout you can offer.

        So these new networks can't try and beat payouts but they can offer things like better training and better support to make up for lower payout. They normally need to be more newb friendly at first as well just to get affiliates.

        Its a tough model but many established networks started from the bottom and worked their way up.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenbuch
    Starting a CPA Netwrok definitely requires Knowledge and Money.
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