teeth whitening trials

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anyone still pulling big #'s?
#teeth #trials #whitening
  • Profile picture of the author GrindHard
    There's still huge money to be made in this vertical, just less offers that work now. Get w/ me if you'd like to know where and how to run these offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author khanhdom
    can you pm me with the information?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Still lots of money to be had with teeth whitening. Lots of the offers are sketch, but still lots to be made...trust me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Koolestnerd
      Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

      Still lots of money to be had with teeth whitening. Lots of the offers are sketch, but still lots to be made...trust me.
      Yea i completely believe what you say ......just two days ago i did a search on teeth whitening and there was good amount of search volume and yes i saw an article on Ezines which was submitted in March 2010 AND had just one keyword which did not have a good search volume and still that article has crossed 4000 views.
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    • Profile picture of the author affiliatelabs
      Great to know that. Did huge numbers last year in this niche when Adwords PPC allowed. What's working right now on this niche? PPV and some sort of Media Buying I suppose?

      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      We're still pushing insane numbers in this niche - a lot of USA and INTL traffic there.
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    • Profile picture of the author go
      Originally Posted by RyanEagle View Post

      We're still pushing insane numbers in this niche - a lot of USA and INTL traffic there.
      what are your payouts?
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      • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Gelbs
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        • Profile picture of the author go
          Originally Posted by COPEAC Gelbs View Post

          Feel free to email me if you want some info...i have a trey offer converting at 26% right now, pushing serious volume...


          Stephen Gelber - Director of Operations COPEAC
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          I did over 5 million on diet pills.. never touched teeth whitening (i was on vacation traveling south america, just got back 30 days ago). i still got all my sources of traffic lined up, but i hear really bad stories about advertisers losing merchant accounts and not paying bills.

          did they all clean up? i would assume only the legit ones are still game or?

          let me know.
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          • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Gelbs
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            • Profile picture of the author go
              Originally Posted by COPEAC Gelbs View Post

              You're right...a ton of people had their operations shut down for insanely high charge backs...main reason for this from my experience is alot of ADV never pushed networks and in turn networks never pushed on publishers to make sure they were pairing a trey and a pen offer...alot of people would pair two pens and two trey's...when consumers realized they were receiving the same product, they canceled (depending on the products they would most likely cancel both products)...right now we deal with one client for the teeth niche and the client has been running for years and knows how to stay afloat...

              In terms of cleaning up, i would imagine so but a vast majority of those ADV had their money frozen as soon as their MID's were shut down but i cant say with certainty, it's going to vary depending on the ADV.

              Also to quell any concerns about being stiffed by ADV or networks, we require any continuity client to extend a pre-payment so we're always working off a lump sum we already have in...never extending credit to ADV leaving the door open for disaster.

              did conversions drop since advertisers are trying to be more compliant now?
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              • Profile picture of the author Kenster
                Originally Posted by go View Post

                did conversions drop since advertisers are trying to be more compliant now?

                Most likely...for me it has. Its not just the advertisers that tightened up their offers, but also the affiliates as there has been more liability concerns for the affiliate, not just the merchant. Also, many traffic sources tightened their reigns on free trials, so you have to with stricter rules which normally means a decrease in conversion rate.

                Overall I like to see everything as an opportunity, not an obstacle. More restrictions means less people are promoting, meaning there is more opportunity in most of the traffic genres.

                Ken
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                • Profile picture of the author go
                  Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

                  Most likely...for me it has. Its not just the advertisers that tightened up their offers, but also the affiliates as there has been more liability concerns for the affiliate, not just the merchant. Also, many traffic sources tightened their reigns on free trials, so you have to with stricter rules which normally means a decrease in conversion rate.

                  Overall I like to see everything as an opportunity, not an obstacle. More restrictions means less people are promoting, meaning there is more opportunity in most of the traffic genres.

                  Ken
                  for sure this is the best way to look at it.
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              • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Gelbs
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                • Profile picture of the author Kenster
                  Originally Posted by COPEAC Gelbs View Post

                  There may have been a slight drop off but by making them more compliant and adhering to advertiser guidelines, these offers will be more long term. In the past i would never push out teeth whitening to SEO publishers because i never felt 100% confident the offers would be around for months...now i have that confidence so it's give and take in my opinion.

                  That is a great point. A lot of the higher paying RFT trials have undergone the same re-work to be more compliant. In many cases this has decreased the conversion but there are still some very strong RFTs.

                  Either way, always make sure your campaigns have a strategy in place to account for offer being dropped. Even the offers that seem the most stable drop without notice sometimes. Its part of the game, so make sure you have a plan before it happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author bobkerry
    this will ofcourse enhance marketing of the product!!!
    but this marketing should be done in a very effective way....
    so that more and more people can be attracted!!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    yes, people are still making money
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  • Profile picture of the author rparikh
    I have just been the hard luck with the teeth whitening offers .

    I drive traffic using article marketing (Mainly ezine articles ) but unfortunately,it did not works for me .What you suggesting the ideal traffic source for the teeth whitening offers ?

    I think my pre-sell page and otehr factors are quite good .
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by rparikh View Post

      I have just been the hard luck with the teeth whitening offers .

      I drive traffic using article marketing (Mainly ezine articles ) but unfortunately,it did not works for me .What you suggesting the ideal traffic source for the teeth whitening offers ?

      I think my pre-sell page and otehr factors are quite good .


      May not apply to everybody here, but it works offline pretty well assuming you can find a network that allows it. Used to push pretty substantial numbers with flyer marketing a long time ago, can't imagine its any different now.

      just a thought
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      • Profile picture of the author rparikh
        Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

        May not apply to everybody here, but it works offline pretty well assuming you can find a network that allows it. Used to push pretty substantial numbers with flyer marketing a long time ago, can't imagine its any different now.

        just a thought
        Hey kenstar , Thanks buddy for the generous help .
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by rparikh View Post

          Hey kenstar , Thanks buddy for the generous help .

          Anytime buddy. Be sure to take action on any ideas that run through your head. Best of luck! :p
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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by rparikh View Post

      I have just been the hard luck with the teeth whitening offers .

      I drive traffic using article marketing (Mainly ezine articles ) but unfortunately,it did not works for me .What you suggesting the ideal traffic source for the teeth whitening offers ?

      I think my pre-sell page and otehr factors are quite good .
      Ken is right I would not write articles to convince people about teeth whitening. Its just too vain a thing to write an article about. People respond to more emotional stuff imo.

      When I did my first run with teeth whitening it was offline. I pretended
      to be a college student and said I was doing a marketing assignment and
      asked if I could leave the free trials in certain beauty oriented places.
      The fliers were pretty appealing to peoples emotional sides is all I'll say.

      It worked better than I expected.
      And it could absolutely be scaled up.

      I haven't really had the time to fully explore whats possible with these trials but a few hundred in a day was nothing with this offline method.
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      • Profile picture of the author ish
        When I did my first run with teeth whitening it was offline. I pretended
        to be a college student and said I was doing a marketing assignment and
        asked if I could leave the free trials in certain beauty oriented places.
        The fliers were pretty appealing to peoples emotional sides is all I'll say.
        Hey Redshifted, could you send me the template of the leaflets you distributed? I would appreciate that...I'm definitely going to do this method soon. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author sulmaanaslam
    How does teeth whitening work with SEO Traffic? What would work best? A review site?
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  • Profile picture of the author lionstarmedia
    whats best sources of traffic, mail? fb?
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    • Profile picture of the author go
      Originally Posted by lionstarmedia View Post

      whats best sources of traffic, mail? fb?
      mail is good. fb won't approve trials.

      media buys. make sure your network pays you fast when you run free trials
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    Originally Posted by lionstarmedia View Post

    anyone still pulling big #'s?

    YES! Tons of money still to be made.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    What I love about the teeth whitening offer is that it has a very wide demogrphic interest. Thats why I used it offline where I couldnt demographically target as much when I was first beginning in CPA.

    Results were good. No matter what the economy is doing, teeth whitening is always going to be popular. Its like a weight loss offer, but its much more stable because there are many fad diets in weight loss space and no real fads with teeth whitening products.

    I think its one of the most under-rated trial niches
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  • Profile picture of the author lionstarmedia
    whats the best demographics for this product? 18-35?
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  • Profile picture of the author smolodoy
    yea I was thinking on hitting them too..
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  • Profile picture of the author lionstarmedia
    If anyone can do 10-40 a day hit me up via pm.
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  • Profile picture of the author KC-Coop
    Definitely still lots of volume in it. I've been pushing it a lot lately on PPV.
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    • Profile picture of the author affiliatelabs
      What are some of the PPV networks you may recommend? Not to run TW offers, but many CPA offers in general.

      Originally Posted by KC-Coop View Post

      Definitely still lots of volume in it. I've been pushing it a lot lately on PPV.
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      • Profile picture of the author KC-Coop
        Originally Posted by affiliatelabs View Post

        What are some of the PPV networks you may recommend? Not to run TW offers, but many CPA offers in general.
        TrafficVance -> LeadImpact -> Adon Network -> MediaTraffic -> DirectCPV.

        That's the order I personally rank them in.
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        • Profile picture of the author dazster
          Thanks for listing those mate. I have been wondering which are peoples favourites.

          Daz

          Originally Posted by KC-Coop View Post

          TrafficVance -> LeadImpact -> Adon Network -> MediaTraffic -> DirectCPV.

          That's the order I personally rank them in.
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  • Profile picture of the author Profit123
    Hello there. I hope someone is still making money with teeth whitening offers. Tried them a few months ago with limited success. Must have done something wrong!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Profit123 View Post

      Hello there. I hope someone is still making money with teeth whitening offers. Tried them a few months ago with limited success. Must have done something wrong!

      As a general rule, if there are multiple types of related offers out there on the networks...SOMEBODY is making money with them.

      Maybe try different traffic or just add an extra cup of creativity into your campaigns!

      Many networks list their top earning campaigns so thats also a good check on which offers people are doing well with!
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      • Profile picture of the author subse7en
        Hey Mr. Ken, do you think that teeth whitening offers will work well with SEO-type traffic (article marketing, video marketing, Web 2.0, etc...)?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Originally Posted by subse7en View Post

          Hey Mr. Ken, do you think that teeth whitening offers will work well with SEO-type traffic (article marketing, video marketing, Web 2.0, etc...)?

          Have used it with success yes.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    Originally Posted by lionstarmedia View Post

    anyone still pulling big #'s?
    There is definitely huge money to be made in this vertical.
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  • Profile picture of the author Unfair Contract
    Thanks for the info guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    "quite a niche" or "a quiet niche" ?
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  • Profile picture of the author VinceV
    There is still a lot of potential for teeth whitening, but I must admit its hard finding the right campaigns these days, we have a few teeth whitening campaigns that are doing really well, and a few other free trials.

    Please feel free to check them out, if there is anything I can help you with please let me know.
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  • Profile picture of the author perfectlovehere
    If you try buysellads.com and adbrite.com you can do some targetted media buys and make money with CPA there.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Teeth whitening only gets 33,000 searches/month
    exact local
    thats a lot but, not exactly enough to get great traffic unless you are top 3
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