Best Second-Rate PPC Network

by gamboo
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Hello Warriors

I've decided to go with a second rate network as I'm finding it hard to find a decent average CPC with first-tier PPC networks such as adwords for just about everything I'm interested in promoting.

So at the moment I have 7search and ABCsearch, both seem reputable and have an offer in which they will match my initial deposit up to $100.

I was hoping you guys could share your experiences with using these networks to help me make up my mind which one would be better for me.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    You can make some money with those small networks, but your volume will be incredibly low. A few days ago I I saw that a warrior posted on a thread about 7Search saying that he ran a campaign for a whole year with only $100. So even if his ROI was 100% he still wouldn't have made more than $100 in 12 months. That's definetely not worth my time and effort, and I think that it's not worth yours as well.

    However, I myself don't have experience with those companies, so I can't give you my personal opinion. I just think that you should keep trying to find a campaign for Google, Yahoo! or Bing. Bids are higher with them, it's true, but it's still 100% possible to run PPC campaigns with the 1st tier search engines, you just need to find offer with a good payout and decent conversion rate.


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    • Profile picture of the author williamrs
      Originally Posted by EmpyreRamiz View Post

      pof.com is good and admob must try them
      Yes, POF is good. However, it's not PPC, they work only with CPM. Their traffic is good, but working with them is completely different than working with search engines. If you are a "search minded guy" you may have to face a learning curve just like I did.


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  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    I know a guy that's done $1k a day on 7search... don't ask how as he won't tell, but my understanding is it was with freebie/coupon type offers and multiple campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author RevenueHook Mike
    I would recommend 7 search. Remember to test as many keywords as you can and track everything. You can get decent volume and return on investment with 2 tier search engines. Once you have a decent ROI and are ready to scale. Go broad and test!
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    • Profile picture of the author hilhilginger
      Originally Posted by RevenueHook Mike View Post

      I would recommend 7 search. Remember to test as many keywords as you can and track everything. You can get decent volume and return on investment with 2 tier search engines. Once you have a decent ROI and are ready to scale. Go broad and test!
      I saw you got a big mouth on 7 search.Will they accept new noobees who do not anything on PPC . I just wonder if they can support people like me who want to take part in PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author gamboo
    Thanks for the replies warriors

    I've decided to split my $150 and inject $75 into both PPC networks I have mentioned.
    I believe if I can get enough campaigns running with 7search then there is decent money to be made.

    @william
    I have a private offer(Course Advisor - Nursing) which is a free of charge long form submit and I believe its payout of $21 to be good, and I also make any campaign with the optimism my conversion rate will be good as well(lets say 20% for my offer above)

    But even then I still don't see a good profit mathematically in adwords at least, the avg CPC is $3-6, ignoring keywords with a higher avg CPC than that, and I could see myself barely making a profit for my hard work.

    Though that is with the most popular PPC network, so I will check out Yahoo! and Bing and check avg CPC with other offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author RevenueHook Mike
    Hi Gambo,

    Have you tried Fb ads with that offer? I know some people that are doing quite well with those types of offers in fb.
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    • Profile picture of the author gamboo
      @Mike
      No haven't stepped into that area yet, thanks though will have to look into it
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    • Profile picture of the author Aussie_Al
      Originally Posted by RevenueHook Mike View Post

      Hi Gambo,

      Have you tried Fb ads with that offer? I know some people that are doing quite well with those types of offers in fb.
      IN my experience with facebook ads I set them up as CPC and when I know that they convert I switch them out to CPM ads

      I still find that ads on google are cheaper for me then facebook ads tho'
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  • Profile picture of the author Slugger_mn
    Would it work to direct link from a fb ad, to a CPA offer? Thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by gamboo View Post

    Hello Warriors

    I've decided to go with a second rate network as I'm finding it hard to find a decent average CPC with first-tier PPC networks such as adwords for just about everything I'm interested in promoting.

    So at the moment I have 7search and ABCsearch, both seem reputable and have an offer in which they will match my initial deposit up to $100.

    I was hoping you guys could share your experiences with using these networks to help me make up my mind which one would be better for me.

    Thanks
    Best second rate PPC platform is Facebook. Anything else apart from the big 2 (or 3) are pretty much garbage click quality. Stick to G, Y/BING ... and do FB on the side if you must.

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  • Profile picture of the author yuviplays
    I say mostly with yahoo ,bing .. And get good convert rate ..
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  • Profile picture of the author iamx
    Nick is right...
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  • Profile picture of the author Zeid Makkawi
    Nick got the point there, if you want quality traffic.. then you can't depends on
    7search or 2nd tier PPC Network. But there you mentioned Facebook...

    I don't know if facebook is a really great choice for newbie, i believe there's some
    learning curves until you got profitable campaign with Facebook. Instead the 2nd tier PPC Network were easier to use, but the traffic were pretty much almost like garbage (I believe some of people didn't aggree with me on this one, but well that's the true in my experience)

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  • Profile picture of the author 7SearchBrad
    I would be glad to share ways in which you could better optimize your 7Search.com campaigns. Please email me with a time that would work well for you. bstanley at 7Search dot com. I look forward to hearing from you.
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    • Profile picture of the author 7SearchBrad
      Originally Posted by condinet View Post

      I dearly wish you would reply to your emails and/or your colleague Robert reply to his. I have blown $1000 on 7search now and just burned money. I 'reprint' here my email sent and resent since the start of this month - time is money. I may have a little account compared with most, but i am not prepared to burn money on a learning curve, while others get facilities that advantage them! That frankly is SICK.

      'Hi Brad,

      Gauher Chaudry told me that I can get 1) a list of best performing verticals 2) ability to filter out the non-performing publishing networks.

      My 7search account Username is E########Y and I've only been playing .... the conversion rates have always turned out dogsh*t for me but Gauher has worked with me on some landing page issues and I need to trust the clicks ... then I can get serious ... I want to get serious, I despise Adwords which seem to interfere with me constantly and MSN has gone to hell price wise apres the yahoo Ad takeover - I just have this instinct that there is a fortune waiting for me in 7search traffic ,,, call me crazy.

      I would love the data asap and wish you a very successful new year 2011. Also a quick question for you, why is 7search better than looksmart? any feedback/testimonials of comparison?

      rsvp
      (*John'

      I don't actually see any testimonials online at all except from people like Chaudry who are pushing 7search because it 'appears' that there is still life in CPA using these little cheap click networks. Then I might add that i am receiving a continual stream of unrelated JV offers, so so much for CPA Gurus' profits

      Is there a single course or proverbial 'guru' that isn't just about rehash and their course making them a tidy take? I doubt it. Check out ยป The Salty Droid >> bleep its awesome ... like Wikileaks of the Infoproduct Hucksters Underworld!

      Also I wonder, is there a single Good Review on warrior forums that isn't from a Infoproduct Junkie/Victim? Because whenever I double check a good review that a given dude/dudess is pumping love into in handful measures, their wishful reviews of courses are found all around the forum.

      I'm afraid warriorforum is becoming a place where everyone are wishing and pitching and not much else.

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      Hey Condinet,

      I received your email and forwarded it directly over to Cleo as he works with all clients through Gauher Chaudry. I am glad that you were able to get some good feed back from him. We like to be sure to address all concerns with a speedy response that fully addresses any concerns. If there is anything else you require please let me know.

      Many Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Genesis1
    7 search must be good, I tried clicksor and adbrite, they pay pennies
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  • Profile picture of the author chiwawa
    7 search is good but you should test as many keywords as you can and track everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gunedat
    7search is one of the reputable ones. But if you are planning to promote CPA, I suggest you get ready to really test your campaigns. Test multiple and various types of offers. Sometimes if the offer is not suitable, conversion will definitely suffer.
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  • Profile picture of the author BankruptcyRules
    Adsense. Pretty much all other great ppc advertising companies are invite only. I've tried quite a few, clicksor, adbrite etc. In the end I ended up using CPX interactive and Xtend media. But both are mostly CPM ads with a CPC addition, and they do have obnoxious ads like weight loss and stuff.
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