Is combination of adwords and cpa impossible?

BloggerDeen

13 years ago

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williamrs

13 years ago

No, it's definetely not impossible. However, there are many rules that you have to follow to promote offers there.

The landing pages that I use most of the times and that are very easy to pass are opt-in landers. I use these landing pages to capture leads and promote offers with autoresponder series. You can even promote free trials and other rebills with this technique.

Also, some offers, like a few dating sites, may pass with simple landing pages or even direct linking.

You just have to avoid email/zip submits, rebills (unless you take the opt-in route) and bridge pages (pages linking to many different sites/products, like review pages).

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patadeperro

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

I use these landing pages to capture leads and promote offers with autoresponder series. You can even promote free trials and other rebills with this technique.

William just split the beans here!!!!

To me that is the holly grail of the entire Internet marketing create your own lists with PPC to offer them several stuff after, you create your landing page, you create your list and you keep sending offers, the difference between doing this or direct linking is the answer to the question:

Do you want to make a business or just make money?

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capemay 13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

The landing pages that I use most of the times and that are very easy to pass are opt-in landers.

Do your ads point directly to these opt-in landers? Are they like a traditional squeeze page? Are you offering up something like a free report? Do you have a lot of content on the rest of the site, or is it fairly thin? (less than 10 pages or so)
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Adbeat

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

You just have to avoid email/zip submits, rebills (unless you take the opt-in route) and bridge pages (pages linking to many different sites/products, like review pages).

Actually you can still run an affiliate review site on Google content. It just has to be very high quality and at least have the appearance of independent reviews from visitors, etc. There are guys running sites like this in major markets on Google content for the past 6+ months.

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swayman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

No, it's definetely not impossible. However, there are many rules that you have to follow to promote offers there.

The landing pages that I use most of the times and that are very easy to pass are opt-in landers. I use these landing pages to capture leads and promote offers with autoresponder series. You can even promote free trials and other rebills with this technique.

Also, some offers, like a few dating sites, may pass with simple landing pages or even direct linking.

You just have to avoid email/zip submits, rebills (unless you take the opt-in route) and bridge pages (pages linking to many different sites/products, like review pages).

William

Will I don't think they allow this anymore, Adwords very strict about harvesting or capturing your visitor's personal information, e.g. email address, with or without any incentive, this is a NO NO to Google.

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williamrs

13 years ago

Originally Posted by capemay

Do your ads point directly to these opt-in landers? Are they like a traditional squeeze page? Are you offering up something like a free report? Do you have a lot of content on the rest of the site, or is it fairly thin? (less than 10 pages or so)

Yes, I point the ads directly to the squeeze page, but it has at least 500 words of unique content and my site is never just a single HTML page, I always add at least 15 content pages, about and contact pages and a privacy policy. I also generate some backlinks with social bookmarking (you can outsource this for just a few dollars).

Btw, most of the times I offer the autoresponder series itself, you don't even need a report.

Originally Posted by swayman

Will I don't think they allow this anymore, Adwords very strict about harvesting or capturing your visitor's personal information, e.g. email address, with or without any incentive, this is a NO NO to Google.

They actually do. You can't simply use a page with an opt-in for and an ecover, of course. However, if you put some useful content on your lander and make it looks like a real, informative site it will pass with no problems.

It's all about offering value. People searching on Google are looking for useful information. If they click on your link and don't find anything useful they will think that Google doesn't display relevant results. Obviously, it won't make Google happy. So you just need to offer information on your landing page and make sure that people will learn something useful even if they close the window without supplying their email or buying anything. Capturing leads is something that everybody do, from the newbies to the biggest companies in the world, so it's not right to say that Google is against it.

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azmanar

13 years ago

Originally Posted by williamrs

No, it's definetely not impossible. However, there are many rules that you have to follow to promote offers there.

The landing pages that I use most of the times and that are very easy to pass are opt-in landers. I use these landing pages to capture leads and promote offers with autoresponder series. You can even promote free trials and other rebills with this technique.

Also, some offers, like a few dating sites, may pass with simple landing pages or even direct linking.

You just have to avoid email/zip submits, rebills (unless you take the opt-in route) and bridge pages (pages linking to many different sites/products, like review pages).

William

Hi,

This is an excellent tip.

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azmanar

13 years ago

Hi,

I see lots of good advice that came in respond to concerns about Connecting Google Adwords to Aff Offers.

I see Will's strategy is the best solution. Capturing emails via FORMS on self-created BRIDGE PAGES.

Yet another concern came up. Google doesn't like this too and see it as malicious harvesting of emails.

What if, we have a landing page ( bridge ) which highlights several offers. These offers are highlighted through graphics and text. They are then hyperlinked to actual offer urls.

This could also raise Google's red-flag, because even a direct link to an offer pose a problem, then so many links on a page magnifies it.

I see the only solution in Connecting Adwords to Offers, is to have a BLOG with some content "around" the offer.

I'm steering totally away from Adwords for 2 reasons - Cost kept rising and Complexity, where their rules kept changing.

There are other routes of bringing in traffic without having to cater to these choking rules and without migraines.

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BloggerDeen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by azmanar

Hi,

I see lots of good advice that came in respond to concerns about Connecting Google Adwords to Aff Offers.

I see Will's strategy is the best solution. Capturing emails via FORMS on self-created BRIDGE PAGES.

Yet another concern came up. Google doesn't like this too and see it as malicious harvesting of emails.

What if, we have a landing page ( bridge ) which highlights several offers. These offers are highlighted through graphics and text. They are then hyperlinked to actual offer urls.

This could also raise Google's red-flag, because even a direct link to an offer pose a problem, then so many links on a page magnifies it.

I see the only solution in Connecting Adwords to Offers, is to have a BLOG with some content "around" the offer.

I'm steering totally away from Adwords for 2 reasons - Cost kept rising and Complexity, where their rules kept changing.

There are other routes of bringing in traffic without having to cater to these choking rules and without migraines.

Our Warrior Friends have good WSOs for bringing huge traffic:
1. 35 proven Techniques to deliver more buyers to your offers
2. Generate 2,000 unique visitors to your Blog
3. Click on Williams signature there. The bonus ebook is the killer.

BEST OF ALL, the techniques showed by ALL THREE OF THEM can bring huge traffic without needing to do any TIRESOME SEO !!!

Content is still the main reason people come to blogs. So make em KISS - Keep It Short & Sweet

That's really good one tip azmanar. But their policies changes every time and most of the time the group affected the most are affiliates.
Although this techniques is pretty safe but one of my friend do get warning promoting cpa offer on his blog too. In other words it all about experimentation.

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jeffrey73

13 years ago

Originally Posted by azmanar

Yet another concern came up. Google doesn't like this too and see it as malicious harvesting of emails.

Of course if you put up a squeeze page with 2 or 3 different pages that has 5 bullet points and says "Win a Free IPod", Google will probably consider that maliciously harvesting emails. They know the offer behind it is junk.

On the other hand, what if you have a Travel website that has 15-20 pages of 300-500 word articles and a lot of good information. Then you also have an opt-in box to the right offering a free report "10 of the Top Travel Spots Around the World"?

Don't you then think Google would consider this better due to the offer being presented?

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azmanar

13 years ago

Originally Posted by jeffrey73

Of course if you put up a squeeze page with 2 or 3 different pages that has 5 bullet points and says "Win a Free IPod", Google will probably consider that maliciously harvesting emails. They know the offer behind it is junk.

On the other hand, what if you have a Travel website that has 15-20 pages of 300-500 word articles and a lot of good information. Then you also have an opt-in box to the right offering a free report "10 of the Top Travel Spots Around the World"?

Don't you then think Google would consider this better due to the offer being presented?

Thanks Jeff. Makes a lot of sense.

Blogs should have good content, if Google is the traffic method, just like what William has been practicing. At least I tried the same way in my blog.

But I don't care much about Google anymore. I know 60% of the traffic comes from Google, but the maintenance overhead is a burden.

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bigg

13 years ago

google has been a bitch and its almost impossible to run cpa offers with adwords.
there are many others out there like adsonar etc.. do a lil search

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ChrisBa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BloggerDeen

I have tried to use adwords with cpa offers but 9 out of 10 times Google has problem with landing page even though I have optimized it to the fullest. So is it impossible to make cpa work with adwords?

It is definitely possible, what niche were you trying? and how was your lp optimized to the fullest?

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jasonsluck 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

It is definitely possible, what niche were you trying? and how was your lp optimized to the fullest?

What are some general ways he can optimize his landing page?
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BloggerDeen 13 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

It is definitely possible, what niche were you trying? and how was your lp optimized to the fullest?

I have highly targeted keywords, have used original content on landing pages pretty much everything I can think of.
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speedbird

13 years ago

Promoting CPA offers with PPC is the fastest way to get traffic to your offers. I really recommend Google AdWords but you can try also Facebook and PlentyOfFish (POF)

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badboy_Nick

13 years ago

Originally Posted by BloggerDeen

I have tried to use adwords with cpa offers but 9 out of 10 times Google has problem with landing page even though I have optimized it to the fullest. So is it impossible to make cpa work with adwords?

Hey

Send the traffic to your OWN landing pages. Google wont have a problem this way ... DO NOT send it straight to the merchants homepage with your aff ID.

That should do the trick.

Any questions just let me know

Nick

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hurn

13 years ago

hi there,

How you direct traffic without having ad bridge problem.

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Hey

Send the traffic to your OWN landing pages. Google wont have a problem this way ... DO NOT send it straight to the merchants homepage with your aff ID.

That should do the trick.

Any questions just let me know

Nick

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swayman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Hey

Send the traffic to your OWN landing pages. Google wont have a problem this way ... DO NOT send it straight to the merchants homepage with your aff ID.

That should do the trick.

Any questions just let me know

Nick

Still if you put cpa link on your landing page, then your landing page would be treated as "bridge page" which a No no to Google too.

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BloggerDeen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by badboy_Nick

Hey

Send the traffic to your OWN landing pages. Google wont have a problem this way ... DO NOT send it straight to the merchants homepage with your aff ID.

That should do the trick.

Any questions just let me know

Nick

Thanks bro, but the problem is that Mr Google has problem with that too. Although I am bit confused about it as most of the time it happens randomly.

For example some of my friends put link to offer and doing it for quite a long time and some have received Google email that it don't like its landing page.

Damn Adwords is getting complex day by day!!!

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tryinhere 13 years ago

Originally Posted by BloggerDeen

Damn Adwords is getting complex day by day!!!

ithink most of it has been covered

do not have

You just have to avoid email/zip submits, rebills (unless you take the opt-in route) and bridge pages (pages linking to many different sites/products, like review pages).

and when you say land page , it means land site, so i am guessing you have full support pages / about us, contact us, privacy etc etc / good content.
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WFParadise

13 years ago

Nick, please comment, I am also curious about bridge page fact

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costi

13 years ago

If email/zip submit offers are a "no no", what kind of offers are still good to promote on adwords?
And does somebody knows the answer on these questions:

"Are they like a traditional squeeze page? Are you offering up something like a free report? Do you have a lot of content on the rest of the site, or is it fairly thin? (less than 10 pages or so) "

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BloggerDeen

13 years ago

Originally Posted by costi

If email/zip submit offers are a "no no", what kind of offers are still good to promote on adwords?
And does somebody knows the answer on these questions:

"Are they like a traditional squeeze page? Are you offering up something like a free report? Do you have a lot of content on the rest of the site, or is it fairly thin? (less than 10 pages or so) "

One of the main reason to avoid email/zip offers are because they usually pay 2$ , maximum and looking at current adwords cpc it looks impossible to have positive ROI on them. Trial offers still works well but a lot of money do get wasted in testing phase.

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swayman

13 years ago

They actually do. You can't simply use a page with an opt-in for and an ecover, of course. However, if you put some useful content on your lander and make it looks like a real, informative site it will pass with no problems.

It's all about offering value. People searching on Google are looking for useful information. If they click on your link and don't find anything useful they will think that Google doesn't display relevant results. Obviously, it won't make Google happy. So you just need to offer information on your landing page and make sure that people will learn something useful even if they close the window without supplying their email or buying anything. Capturing leads is something that everybody do, from the newbies to the biggest companies in the world, so it's not right to say that Google is against it..

If people can get away with this tactic for some length of time, I think they just have to wait for some period review by the Google employee and if they caught you using opt in lander, they will send you their love letter.

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Adbeat

13 years ago

Originally Posted by swayman

If people can get away with this tactic for some length of time, I think they just have to wait for some period review by the Google employee and if they caught you using opt in lander, they will send you their love letter.

I think you are mistaking how Google treats a typical affiliate opt-in page with how they treat a higher quality site. If you have a site that Google considers to be valuable and not a bridge page, you can run opt-in on a LP all day long. There are countless examples of this currently running on Google and they have been running for a long time. Some of these are affiliates.

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swayman

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Adbeat

I think you are mistaking how Google treats a typical affiliate opt-in page with how they treat a higher quality site. If you have a site that Google considers to be valuable and not a bridge page, you can run opt-in on a LP all day long. There are countless examples of this currently running on Google and they have been running for a long time. Some of these are affiliates.

The problem is now that all affiliates pages are mostly just a bridge page. Unless you're promoting your own product with your own order page and CC processing system.

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lucasvera

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Adbeat

I think you are mistaking how Google treats a typical affiliate opt-in page with how they treat a higher quality site. If you have a site that Google considers to be valuable and not a bridge page, you can run opt-in on a LP all day long. There are countless examples of this currently running on Google and they have been running for a long time. Some of these are affiliates.

Could you please provide specific examples of pages that mention.

Many talk about but few get practical examples. Viewing, learn more!

Tks!

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jaybee2003 13 years ago

Originally Posted by lucasvera

Could you please provide specific examples of pages that mention.

Many talk about but few get practical examples. Viewing, learn more!

Tks!

I don't think anyone will give up their LPs - at least not profitable ones. Just do a G search for your product and click on the ads to learn how others are doing it.
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indexphp

13 years ago

with Adwords, just stay away from bizops and you'll be fine.

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azmanar 13 years ago

Originally Posted by indexphp

with Adwords, just stay away from bizops and you'll be fine.

What is BizOps? I've been wondering about this term.
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Delarox

13 years ago

Adwords just dont like affiliates very much..why not try other ppc engines

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Is combination of adwords and cpa impossible?

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