facebook ppc and email/zip submits

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Hey warriors I was wondering how you guys are promoting email/zip submit offers on facebook. I tried creating a campaign for a free tv and they said that they do not allow these type of freebie ads
#email or zip #facebook #ppc #submits
  • Profile picture of the author Hyphen
    Email/ZIP submits are allowed all over Facebook.
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      from the facebook team " I took a look at your account and noticed that the content advertised by this ad is prohibited. We reserve the right to determine what advertising we accept, and we may choose to not accept ads containing or relating to certain products or services. We do not allow ads for "free offers" that require several hidden steps and will not allow the creation of any further Facebook Ads for this product. We appreciate your cooperation with this policy"

      this is the ad I made
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      • Profile picture of the author Silviu
        I'm curious to know this as well. I mean, it's clear why this ad is being rejected, you are advertising something as "free" when it really takes several long steps for a customer. The ad is dishonest. BUT, I still see these all over facebook. How are some people getting them approved and some aren't? Is there certain wording that facebook doesn't like? What do they like?
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      Originally Posted by jeffyrh View Post

      thanks for your sharing!i will try it!
      Doubt it will work, the only way to get this to work is to reword the ad, then word it the way you like after its approved, and that dont last for too long. can we get some expert opinions on what I should do? Please Pm me if you dont want information saturated as it looks like I already saturated information that is worthless anyways lol
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  • Profile picture of the author garychen
    thanks for share!
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  • Profile picture of the author blackjacker
    Facebook is very strict with their policy as they are like Google - Consumer's Satisfaction is always #1.

    If you set up an ad which is too good to be true or looks like a scam, they will not take the risk of allowing your ad to be approved.

    And again, this is VERY subjective to who is approving your ad, to answer Silvu's question.

    Sides, Facebook users are getting smarter with IMers who are scamming them.

    I'd recommend you not to go with this campaign as you will waste time and effort with this campaign.

    Cheers,
    Jay
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    • Profile picture of the author Hilal
      Most advanced CPA marketers use traffic sources like facebook and others to build their list. At the same instant time while they build their list, they offer subscribers a CPA offer.

      This way, you can build your list and promote CPA offers at the same time.

      The best of this method is, you have a very targeted list, so, you can offer them more and more CPA offers later!

      So, you promote once, and earn more and more.

      But you need to use this idea the smart way, to get the most out of both list building and CPA networks.

      I hope this will help.

      Hilal
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      • Profile picture of the author HappyHourInfo
        Originally Posted by Hilal View Post

        Most advanced CPA marketers use traffic sources like facebook and others to build their list. At the same instant time while they build their list, they offer subscribers a CPA offer.

        This way, you can build your list and promote CPA offers at the same time.

        The best of this method is, you have a very targeted list, so, you can offer them more and more CPA offers later!

        So, you promote once, and earn more and more.

        But you need to use this idea the smart way, to get the most out of both list building and CPA networks.

        I hope this will help.

        Hilal
        I agree with Hilal. I have found some really good webinars on offervault.com that explains how to use facebook ads to the maximum. List building allows you to make offers multiple times, while simple direct linking only makes it a one time deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonat2005
    What i would do if i were you was to create a landing page on how people can get free Samsung Tv. And then use a domain redirect to shield the real domain. After the advert has been approved, i will then remove the landing page URL and slot in the real cpa offer URL. In this way, the advert content remains the same while the visitor goes to the cpa offer directly. Using this system, none of my CPA ads on facebook has been stopped.
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      Originally Posted by jonat2005 View Post

      What i would do if i were you was to create a landing page on how people can get free Samsung Tv. And then use a domain redirect to shield the real domain. After the advert has been approved, i will then remove the landing page URL and slot in the real cpa offer URL. In this way, the advert content remains the same while the visitor goes to the cpa offer directly. Using this system, none of my CPA ads on facebook has been stopped.
      Hey I tried to send you a Pm but I dont have enough post to send Pm's yet. Can you explain this a lil further exactly what I would have to do?
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      • Profile picture of the author wonderd
        I finally got an ad approved for vida debt cards. How long does it usually take to start seeing impressions? Not to sure if my bid is high enough. my budget is 5.00 liftime at .27 per click.


        edit, starting to recieve impressions
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        • Profile picture of the author Hilal
          Hey!

          Are you happy for $0.27 per click?
          This means if you get 100,000 clicks you'll pay $27,000 ?

          Try to minimize the CPC to as minimum as you can. You can get a click for only $0.05 or less. So, if you get 100,000 click, you'll pay only $5000 or less instead of $27,000 (This way you'll save at least $22,000) for 100,000 clicks.

          CPA marketing means huuuuge clicks, so, huuuuuuuuge earnings!

          What is you opinion now?

          Just try to optimize your ads to get as minimum cost as you can.

          Hilal

          Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

          I finally got an ad approved for vida debt cards. How long does it usually take to start seeing impressions? Not to sure if my bid is high enough. my budget is 5.00 liftime at .27 per click.


          edit, starting to recieve impressions
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          • Profile picture of the author wonderd
            well since last night I got 2583 Impressions and 0 Clicks. My budget is only 5 dollars so it wont go over that. I cant belive I didnt get any clicks I know my ad isnt very attractive but no one needs a visa debt card? lol

            Can anyone give any pointers? Here is my ad (noobs dont try it as you can see its not working)
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            • Profile picture of the author Hilal
              Don't stop at just one offer!

              You at least 5 different offers at 5 different niches.

              I'm sure you'll find at least one profitable for you.

              Don't afraid of paying too much in FB!

              But start slowly, as soon as you find a profitable one, increase your budget gradually, and STOP the losers.

              In CPA, people make Millions of dollars each month.

              Hilal

              Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

              well since last night I got 2583 Impressions and 0 Clicks. My budget is only 5 dollars so it wont go over that. I cant belive I didnt get any clicks I know my ad isnt very attractive but no one needs a visa debt card? lol

              Can anyone give any pointers? Here is my ad (noobs dont try it as you can see its not working)
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              • Profile picture of the author wonderd
                question: I had my bid at .27 and I got 1 click but it says today spent only .01 Shouldent it say .27?
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                • Profile picture of the author Hilal
                  OK, this is easy!

                  Like many search engines, FB does.

                  Let us see an example:

                  If 2 advertisers "A and B" bid for the same keyword "Dog Training". Advertiser A's bid is $0.25 and Advertiser B's bid is $0.35.
                  If advertiser B got a click for this same keyword, s/he should pay only $0.26 (while bidding on $0.35), s/he pay for advertiser A's bid+$0.01 (=$0.25+$0.01=$0.26) Most of search engines do this. I think FB dose the same.

                  Now, your bid at 0.27, no one else bid for this exact keyword. So you pay $0.00+0.01= $0.01, you'll still get all coming clicks for just $0.01 until someone else bids for this keyword by a higher bid!

                  I hope this is clear for you.

                  Hilal
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                  • Profile picture of the author wonderd
                    good explination thanks. Now all I need is to know how to build sucessful campaigns, I try looking at the ads already on FB and mimic them but its not working out to good
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                    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
                      not getting as many replies to this thread as I thought I would, I figured a thread like this would be food for other newbs like me
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  • Profile picture of the author gowithgaurav
    Hey,

    Facebook is good for list building and to get subscribers!because usually people at facebook are not going to buy there!

    Even its against facebook advertising policies to send people to buy something through advertising on them!

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

    Hey warriors I was wondering how you guys are promoting email/zip submit offers on facebook. I tried creating a campaign for a free tv and they said that they do not allow these type of freebie ads
    Direct linking to e-mail and zip submits are not allowed on Facebook (although there are ways, but we won't go into that), if you just add a landing pages you will dramatically increase your chances of getting your ads approved for this
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  • Profile picture of the author Jilawatan
    Dude... Its not true... I have run several campaigns on facebook like 'BUY Weight Loss Program' and it was approved without any issue. There is some mix up with facebook ads team
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  • Profile picture of the author anshika012
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      Originally Posted by anshika012 View Post

      it's so nice how any one can use it...
      I agree 100%
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  • Profile picture of the author BloggerDeen
    I don't think most of the cpa offers will work with facebook. Best of web - Google and Facebook are closing gates for affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author harro1
    stop using fb ads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Hilal
      Why you want to stop FB?

      I know somebody could build a list of 60,000 subscribers in only 2 days just from FB!

      I know this may be strange to some of you.

      But really this happened.

      But, here is a secret code:

      If you build a list from FB, offer them ONLY free trials, email/zip, and short forms.

      Never Never Never send them to a product to buy (like Clickbank). Why?

      These people join FB for entertainment, not buy something.

      So, CPA free trials are the optimal pages to send them to.

      Changing these subscribers into real buyers is not our job the CPA marketers. It is the job of the advertiser him/herself!

      As I mentioned above, FB can be a goldmine for any CPA marketer, ONLY if it is used the best way.

      Just use FB THE SMART WAY and see your earnings increase gradually.

      Believe me because I'm in this area already!

      I hope this will help.

      Hilal

      Originally Posted by harro1 View Post

      stop using fb ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    As mentioned by some earlier in this thread, you need to test out your campaigns with different images, headlines, messages and try and see the difference in conversions. Pick the best and scrape the non performing ones.

    Just rinse and repeat for other campaigns. Watch out for your budget too, as you do not want to spend too much and bring yourself into trouble. Good to make use of $50 vouchers if you still have.

    Cheers,
    Lester
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

    Hey warriors I was wondering how you guys are promoting email/zip submit offers on facebook. I tried creating a campaign for a free tv and they said that they do not allow these type of freebie ads
    Facebook keeps changing the goalposts anyway. Just try resubmitting the ads but slightly different. Works wonders if you resubmit at different times during the day as well. But the offer kinda blows btw, whats the payout? A few bucks? Try something more up-scale!

    Any questions just let me know
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      well I am trying to get another ad approved but keeps getting diaproved, can you give me any pointers? I am still waiting to make my first buck from facebook ads. So far I spent 13 dollars and no return. This is the direct link used with the ad Page is loading, please wait!
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      • Profile picture of the author ex9to5guy
        Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

        well I am trying to get another ad approved but keeps getting diaproved, can you give me any pointers? I am still waiting to make my first buck from facebook ads. So far I spent 13 dollars and no return. This is the direct link used with the ad Page is loading, please wait!

        are you running cpc or cpm?
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        • Profile picture of the author wonderd
          cpc not cpm
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          • Profile picture of the author ex9to5guy
            Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

            cpc not cpm

            i ran something similar to what you are trying awhile back...did you have a high CTR? how targeted were you.
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  • Profile picture of the author chiwawa
    maybe the reason your ads are still not been approved is because of the forst one they disapproved.try and reword it
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  • Profile picture of the author blogdecor
    Facebook is not a place for that.
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    I think he may be saying that facebook is not a place for running internet marketing stuffs?

    Cheers,
    Lester
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  • Profile picture of the author Money maker guy
    Its work, but it isn't everyone who use it (:
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    By default always use CPC, only switch to CPM when you find the cost for CPM overweighs (cheaper) than CPC for same number of clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I think you posted this on my site too, email and zip submits aren't really the best direct route on Facebook. Build a list then send them those if you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author wonderd
      Im not to sure how to build a list campain. Can you show me an example on my thread within your forum?
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  • Profile picture of the author sting45
    I haven't heard of people having great success using FB to advertise for zip & email submit ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
    Use that for list building, and then slowly build up relationship with them. This is quite common I think.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Gunedat
      From what I heard, FB is not allowing free submits to be promoted in their ads now.

      As for the status of your campaign, from what I can comment, is that your ad is quite boring. Personally I would not have clicked on it. But the your ad impression is quite low, so I would wait a bit more before I draw any conclusions about the CTR.

      If you want to build list with FB, you would need to setup a sandwich page first. This is the page where you put an article related to your ad. Put a call to action on this page, that will take the clicker to another page with your optin. Technically, this setup should not have any problems with FB TOS. btw, this is just one style of how I use sandwich pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Francis
    You definitely can get free submits on FB don't be fooled by the rumours that it's impossible .

    Here's a tip how some of my pals balling on FB do it : Use FB multi-uploaders which create tons of variations for your submit and submit all of them for you on FB . It's a number game out of say 100 variations , you might be able to probably get a few at least . Unless FB tightened their system even more in the past few weeks .
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    • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
      Hello,

      Could you elaborate what is the meaning of FB multi-uploader? I have never heard of it before.

      Cheers,
      Lester

      Originally Posted by Mark Francis View Post

      You definitely can get free submits on FB don't be fooled by the rumours that it's impossible .

      Here's a tip how some of my pals balling on FB do it : Use FB multi-uploaders which create tons of variations for your submit and submit all of them for you on FB . It's a number game out of say 100 variations , you might be able to probably get a few at least . Unless FB tightened their system even more in the past few weeks .
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    facebook is getting strict day by day ...
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  • Profile picture of the author david8
    I finally got sanctioned for a Life announcement card debt. How long does it usually take to start considering the impressions? I'm not sure if my bid is high adequate. my budget is from 5.00 to 0.27 per lift bridge click.
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  • Profile picture of the author u4icjaj
    just a quick question. can i link directly to my affiliate link when using facebook ads? or is a landing page necessary? also, what's the best place to read more about landing pages? thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author lesterlim85
      Hello

      It seems like for facebook, they don't have issue with you directlinking your affiliate links. You could also create a landing page if you think you can do a better job at "selling" the idea to your target audience though.

      So it's your choice.

      Cheers

      Originally Posted by u4icjaj View Post

      just a quick question. can i link directly to my affiliate link when using facebook ads? or is a landing page necessary? also, what's the best place to read more about landing pages? thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author u4icjaj
    thanks for the reply appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author tvinci2011
    Pls I need help with using facebook cpc and cpm efficiently to generate high traffic..GOD BLESS YOU ALL
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  • Profile picture of the author kirch
    I never had any problem with facebook to get email and zip submits approved.As long as you do not mention the word Free in your ad copy ,chances are your ad will be approved.I always direct link and get good conversions.Just be creative with your ad copy
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  • Profile picture of the author imback
    Originally Posted by wonderd View Post

    Hey warriors I was wondering how you guys are promoting email/zip submit offers on facebook. I tried creating a campaign for a free tv and they said that they do not allow these type of freebie ads

    I usually target opt-ins on Facebook and build fan pages first. Then send them links to higher payout CPA offers.

    Just a Tip,
    Chad
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