The END to the wars between [CPALead] & [LeadBolt], Get IN to see the FACTS!

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Hey guys,
recently i have seen many many threads about LeadBolt and CPALead - Who is better, why, where and how.

I decided to make an 1 day test and actually I'm pretty lucky i did that.
Until today i was using CPALead, but the new facts gave me a new opportunity!

First of all i want to start with the Good Points of CPALead (Ill not write here the good points of LeadBolt cause I'm using it only 1 day) without any relation to the ePC/CTR/Ratio.

CPALead + Points:
  • -Has Weekly Payments (which is really great)
  • Always Pay on-time!
  • Great Support.
  • Unlimited PayPal payments (Which is GREAT!)
  • A Payoneer Card Option (Which is best of all lol)
  • A chat system where you can talk to other advertisers.
  • Lotto / Points system that can grant you all the way up to 40% to your earnings.
  • Great Statistics System.
  • Super Friendly Ajax Widget Builder!
  • Super Friendly Offers "Chooser" Page.
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[-] - LeadBolt doesn't have that features!
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But here is the reason why I'm really here..
All this good functions is nothing really without good offers, am i right? SURE!
While testing today, my CPALead EPC was only $0.06 for the US while my LeadBolt EPC was almost X3 on it! [$0.16].

I will not take it too long cause I'm very tired atm and ill let the screenshots to talk by themselves.



However Canada and UK traffic is kicking as*es on CPALead, i mean like $0.04 on LeadBolt and $0.23 on CPALead!


Quick FAQ:

Q: What is ePC?
A: Earnings-Per-Click (EPC) - This is a metric to measure the effectiveness of being able to turn a click into commissions. Formula: EPC = (Clicks/$Commissions Earned)


Q: US/UK/CA?
A: United States / United Kingdom / Canada


Conclusion:
  • If you want to target the US you must use LeadBolt!
  • If your traffic is coming from the UK/CA you must use CPALead!


Ohh, little edit: I have optimized the offers on BOTH of the company's, I'm not sure if i did my best on LeadBolt but i made the best on CPALead since I'm kinda old there and i know how things work (Yes, I have the GOLD surveys on CPALead)



Best Regards,
Rico S.
#cpalead #end #facts #leadbolt #wars
  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    Thanks for sharing! Now, you just need to test BlamAds and AdscendMedia. :p


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  • Profile picture of the author ramchat
    @OP

    What do you suggest if I have huge traffic from Asia?
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    Thanks for this great sharing. I 'm looking forward to a new test between cpalead & blamads.
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    • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
      Originally Posted by ramchat View Post

      @OP

      What do you suggest if I have huge traffic from Asia?
      Well asia has the worst paying offers on ALL the networks so i can't really suggest something however you can benefit from it cause the traffic numbers is much bigger, actually CPALead is the only company I've tried with Asian traffic and the profit from it was pretty nice (again.. the numbers was much bigger) but even with the huge traffic amount - the revenue was worse than US/UK/CA.

      I suggest you to try CPALead with their Content Locker cause LeadBolt's only good surveys is the US one's.


      Originally Posted by mtmjohn View Post

      Thanks for this great sharing. I 'm looking forward to a new test between cpalead & blamads.
      Originally Posted by williamrs View Post

      Thanks for sharing! Now, you just need to test BlamAds and AdscendMedia. :p


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      Actually i already have an account in BlamAds, gonna apply to AdscendMedia now and test those two as well, stay tuned!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by Gradimir S View Post

        It was not too long ago and facebook wasn't against their rules then. Infact, other publisher were making a lot more than me and still got their payments, while many others got banned like me.

        And you were playing between the posts and promoting by the rules and using legal content?


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        • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          And you were playing between the posts and promoting by the rules and using legal content?


          Boo this!

          +1 Rep lol
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    • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
      Originally Posted by mamu View Post

      thanks for the sharing,buddy,and by the way,do you meet that situation:you finish the offer,and the gateway just do not open?
      I don't think that your question is related to this thread but ill answer anyway.
      As for myself i rarely do offers... and as for my traffic, i was a little in a bad mood because i knew this can happen to them.. but when i started to drive 50,000 clicks a day my bad mood gone and the users turned into just numbers hehe...
      And yes, sometimes when i personally finish a survey the gateway is still there (It's a bugged survey or a memory bug in your browser).
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  • Profile picture of the author WalkerIM
    I agree with williamrs, it will be great to see the test Blamads and Adscend.

    btw. Thanks for this
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    Hey good stuff

    I appreciate you takin the time to putting this together. Nice screenies btw

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  • Profile picture of the author Jeremy_AM
    Originally Posted by FrozenGod View Post

    While testing today, my CPALead EPC was only $0.6 for the US while my LeadBolt EPC was almost X3 on it! [$0.16].



    However Canada and UK traffic is kicking as*es on CPALead, i mean like $0.4 on LeadBolt and $0.23 on CPALead!

    you meant to say $0.06 not $0.6 big difference.

    i look forward to you trying our service and comparing. blam as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author TyLo82
    all the surveys in my opinion have decent payouts but they kill traffic and se rankings not worth it. If you want real traffic and want to be in the game for the long run NO SURVEYS.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeadBoltMatt
    Originally Posted by FrozenGod View Post

    While testing today, my CPALead EPC was only $0.06 for the US while my LeadBolt EPC was almost X3 on it! [$0.16].

    Best Regards,
    Rico S.
    Hey Rico,

    That's great to hear, glad you gave us a shot!

    And I can't wait for you to see the new features we're going to be introducing to LeadBolt at the beginning of this year! If you think things are good now, just wait

    Hope everything is well and best of luck to you.

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    • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
      Originally Posted by Jeremy_AM View Post

      you meant to say $0.06 not $0.6 big difference.

      i look forward to you trying our service and comparing. blam as well.
      Yeah, i was so tired i couldn't think properly lol... thanks for fixing it

      Originally Posted by TyLo82 View Post

      all the surveys in my opinion have decent payouts but they kill traffic and se rankings not worth it. If you want real traffic and want to be in the game for the long run NO SURVEYS.
      Totally agree.
      However for a guy like me who hate's seo it's a good way to make money for some PPC / CPV campaigns and common... 4K a day? ill just keep doing it a while and then switch to an automated method...

      Originally Posted by LeadBoltMatt View Post

      Hey Rico,

      That's great to hear, glad you gave us a shot!

      And I can't wait for you to see the new features we're going to be introducing to LeadBolt at the beginning of this year! If you think things are good now, just wait

      Hope everything is well and best of luck to you.

      -LeadBoltMatt
      Ill stay tuned ^_^


      Best Regards,
      Rico S.
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      • Profile picture of the author Freeman77
        Good post. I am a CPALead member but I don't do much traffic with them. They are certainly good for certain things.

        Remember that you can use incentive offers for other networks too. For example, Maxbounty usually has a few really good incentive offers at any particular time. I've done well with those in the past by using my own content locker (Maxbounty has confirmed that this is fine to do on incentive offers).

        Leadbolt looks pretty slick, and I will consider applying. I'm actually a member of BlamAds, but I've never tried their content locking - I will give it a shot soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    @OP

    Hey Rico, i am very curious, how do you drive so much gateway traffic. Care to share some tricks/tips with us? or, maybe you can do a WSO about this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gradimir S
    CPALead simply banned me and stole my money when I started making $500+ per day there (all facebook traffic, nothing against rules). I contacted my ex manager there for few times but he simply says to write email to appelas. I sent them email in September and never got answer.
    So I won't ever recommend them to anyone.
    I don't use leadbolt too, but I tested them with few mine sites and they don't seem very bad.
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    • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
      Originally Posted by Gradimir S View Post

      CPALead simply banned me and stole my money when I started making $500+ per day there (all facebook traffic, nothing against rules). I contacted my ex manager there for few times but he simply says to write email to appelas. I sent them email in September and never got answer.
      So I won't ever recommend them to anyone.
      I don't use leadbolt too, but I tested them with few mine sites and they don't seem very bad.
      It was while Facebook (The thing what you have been doing) was strictly against their rules, now the times has change and they allow it and even love it.

      Originally Posted by mtmjohn View Post

      @OP

      Hey Rico, i am very curious, how do you drive so much gateway traffic. Care to share some tricks/tips with us? or, maybe you can do a WSO about this.
      I got some PM's about it also,
      I'm sorry but i can't share this nor make a WSO cause the new WF TOS will not let me to do that (It's kind of BlackHat).
      Actually i wish i could make an WSO and help all the struggling guys out there (I have my own students already making 2k-3k a day).
      I really love to help people but i can't on this one, sorry mate.


      Best Regards,
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      • Profile picture of the author Gradimir S
        Originally Posted by FrozenGod View Post

        It was while Facebook (The thing what you have been doing) was strictly against their rules, now the times has change and they allow it and even love it.
        It was not too long ago and facebook wasn't against their rules then. Infact, other publisher were making a lot more than me and still got their payments, while many others got banned like me.
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        • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
          Originally Posted by Gradimir S View Post

          It was not too long ago and facebook wasn't against their rules then. Infact, other publisher were making a lot more than me and still got their payments, while many others got banned like me.
          Well i don't really know what to say, you should go there and contact them asking what happened.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gradimir S
            Originally Posted by FrozenGod View Post

            Well i don't really know what to say, you should go there and contact them asking what happened.
            Already done that, but no real answer why I'm banned, they don't want to tell (because they just don't have a reason). And I'm not the only publisher with similar problem.

            I don't care for the money they stole too much, I just want to say that you shoudln't go with them, or atleast go with them with cauton.
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      • Profile picture of the author dumbfox
        Originally Posted by FrozenGod View Post

        It was while Facebook (The thing what you have been doing) was strictly against their rules, now the times has change and they allow it and even love it.


        I got some PM's about it also,
        I'm sorry but i can't share this nor make a WSO cause the new WF TOS will not let me to do that (It's kind of BlackHat).
        Actually i wish i could make an WSO and help all the struggling guys out there (I have my own students already making 2k-3k a day).
        I really love to help people but i can't on this one, sorry mate.


        Best Regards,
        Rico S.
        Hi FrozenGod, Any chance you could change your mind and PM me? I could go bankrupt anytime soon.
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    Thanks for sharing this!
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    just saw this. nicely done
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  • Profile picture of the author Pronoekel
    I do the same David does and I love Leadbolt, had an U.S. EPC of $0.18 yesterday, and 0.16 worldwide. I'm about to try Adscend next when they accept my application.
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      Originally Posted by Pronoekel View Post

      I do the same David does and I love Leadbolt, had an U.S. EPC of $0.18 yesterday, and 0.16 worldwide. I'm about to try Adscend next when they accept my application.
      Pronoekel,

      So glad to hear you're enjoying your time with us so far. We have many new things coming out this year, and even within the next few weeks, so keep your eye out and I hope you like what you see!

      Best of luck to you in this new year!

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  • Profile picture of the author beyazkiclizenci
    Nice screenshots, but the thing about CPALead is, they ban you immidiately when they see you something against their TOS. I hope you wont get banned while you are making money.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by beyazkiclizenci View Post

      Nice screenshots, but the thing about CPALead is, they ban you immidiately when they see you something against their TOS. I hope you wont get banned while you are making money.

      If you play between the posts, then no network should deny commissions. If you are doing something outside the rules, then you are always at some risk. Sometimes networks will pull a "clean-house" and deny commissions of affiliates that were promoting against the TOS even if they had been turning a blind eye all around.

      This is nothing against or for any of the major content lockers, but just something to be aware of. As they say, it may be wise to not have all your eggs in one basket and spread the risk a bit if you are doing something on the sketchy side!
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  • Profile picture of the author nowk
    theres a little action going on about leadbolt the new CPAlead thread again and I think this thread deserves a...

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  • Profile picture of the author twitwithease
    This is a pretty good post on the subject. Now maybe people with stop with the complaining of each network. The research is done, now make your choice as to which network to use!
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  • Profile picture of the author SEOCrate
    I remember seeing this thread a few months back. Nicely done, it's always super interesting to see expansive tests on competing affiliates networks such as this.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vortex015
      Hey, isn't leadbolt the one who is going through a big lawsuit? I believe cpalead is suing the owner of leadbolt. If you search for leadbolt lawsuit you'll find the thread in digital point. A guy leaked the whole thing. It is definately worth a read. I would be a little nervous working with leadbolt myself. Was going to use them in my mobile apps but decided not to because of that.
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      • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
        Originally Posted by Vortex015 View Post

        Hey, isn't leadbolt the one who is going through a big lawsuit? I believe cpalead is suing the owner of leadbolt. If you search for leadbolt lawsuit you'll find the thread in digital point. A guy leaked the whole thing. It is definately worth a read. I would be a little nervous working with leadbolt myself. Was going to use them in my mobile apps but decided not to because of that.
        Well alot of things changed lately as its basically kinda old thread.
        However now i would not suggest CPALead for one reason i don't want to waste my time on.
        In two words - CPALead gives its publishers a permission to use stuff and then doesn't pay them cause the publishers are using that (you can find some of the stuff on CPALead MARKETPLACE!).

        Here is the 2nd reason, I got this image a while ago from a friend:


        Be aware because they can sell you websites, techniques and even personal information (where you live, whats your name, whats your paypal etc..)

        Best Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author Helga
    LeadBolt is way better than CPAlead. CPAlead makes it very hard for new publishers to earn. Their gateways only show download and install offers (Game Vance, Play Sushi, etc), that do not convert well, and on top of that, they contain adware that's difficult to completely remove. You have to make a certain amount to gain access to the "good" offers i.e. the e-mail submits and regular surveys. That makes it hard for new publishers to succeed. There are hundreds of other networks that don't restrict the normal offers for new publishers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fermina
    How about european countries?
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    • Profile picture of the author Nigel Tan
      Did you test them on the same day of the week?
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      • Profile picture of the author FrozenGod
        Originally Posted by Nigel Tan View Post

        Did you test them on the same day of the week?
        It was the same day i just made a PHP widget spinner to spin the widgets (50% LeadBolt was shown, 50% CPALead was shown).
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    Cool thread. I'll keep it bookmarked. =]
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanAlsaiad
    Great Share ,,, Cool , I Think LeadBolt Better Than CPAlead

    Thank You
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