docmatt

In desperate times like these (where people salivatingly wait ad infinitum for the ever-blessed lesson 2) - We should keep in mind what the Good Book says about faith:

Hebrews 11:1 - Now faith is the assurance that what we hope for will come about, and the certainty that what we cannot see exists.

That Lesson 2 exists out there somewhere!

DocMatt

templar

My little study group with AC is doing well...got 2 making 250% profits now...but the secret is going through all the stuff completely.

When week 2 comes out, these 2 members might hit $500/day.

If you aren't in profit yet, go through the blueprint, the 3 bonus webinars, and weekly training...the formula is outlined there, if you know where to look.

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Cataclysmic

I suggest that all AC members contact the "gurus" through whose affiliate links they bought the course.

These gurus recommended the course to us and made piles of cash when we paid for it. They should feel at least party responsible and hopefully can light a fire under Aymen & Emmanuel to ensure the rest of this course is run more professionally. If Aymen & Emmanuel start getting phonecalls from all their affiliates hopefully that'll result in some drastic improvements.

I just contacted my guy.

....and BTW - James Schramko - why so quiet? Where have you been on this thread lately? Talk to us.

jjjt

Well, for my part, I am very nearly at the end of my tether with the whole AC saga...

There "support" desk seems to be a total black-whole (requests disappearing into parallel universes, no doubt).

Week 1's content has sent us all on a wild-goose chase, in my opinion, using tactics that probably haven't been effective or profitable for several years (so far I've spent around US$150, and made a wopping... wait for it... US$3.50)

And today's "no-show" for Week 2's stuff is REALLY, REALLY, REALLY taking the "Michael" (I REALLY want to uses another word there...).

And I for 1 haven't received ANY email from them notifying me of ANYTHING yet. That's just down right rude.

And if the content magically becomes available at 5 to midnight in some random time-zone and therefore technically still qualifies as "Monday 12th" - that's just not on.

According to their "revised" 30 day refund policy I have about a week left, so I am going to see how things pan out over the next 7 days. And I'll then make my decision whether to jump ship.

But Aymen and his crew are going to have to do some major sucking-up and pull some impressive bunnies out of hats in the next few days - or I will be bailing.

Sorry for such a "downer" of a post, folks. But "I need to vent"...! :-)

kkbusk

Hey thanks JJT, I needed that, seriously - right on!!

nobodyspecial

If the methods are blackhat and not long term, then it will be bye-bye to that program also.

nobodyspecial

That's f*cking silly we'd have to hunt for the hidden formula. Why the hell are Aymen and the gang being paid $2k for?

mikep791

Where is this email saying week 2 is coming soon? I don't have anything. Anyone else get it??

Mike

digabot

Well, that really blows not releasing that material. Just when you think that they may be turning the corner and giving more focus/priority to people who bought the program, they just dick you around AGAIN.

Graphix Guru

Here, here, nobodyspecial!

Graphix Guru

Hey jjjt!

I'm glad you posted, because I can tell you're in the same place I'm at (and by the appearance of other posts here today, quite a few others).

A lot of us are at the point of pulling the rip cord. I suspect this week should be a real eye opener for the AC Boys...

Raemi13

Sorry Mann - I didn't mean for my comment to be taken so seriously, notice the "ha ha" at the end of the sentence. All I did was send an e-mail and ask when we might expect the Week 2 lesson to be posted and they responded. Now as of right now, the materials still haven't been posted, so whatever.

mrshear74

This is the best idea I have heard.... I honestly think that the major gurus like Eben Pagan and the others would risk their reputation to make a what to them is a drop in the bucket...

kkbusk

Oh well, three hours and twelve minutes until I pull the plug! MAYBE!!

Graphix Guru

I know you meant "honestly don't think..."

And I agree with you.

This logic was one of the major reasons I decided to get AC. Why would all those big name guys put their mojo behind it if it wasn't "for real?"

Well, maybe they got skunked too.

Regardless, they should have known better – and it hasn't helped their reputations in my eyes, that's for sure. I know many others feel the same way.

In the mob, if you sponsor a guy in and he turns out to be a problem, they hold you accountable. Wise guys may be scum, but they at least try to police their own.

Apparently, Internet marketers don't even have that much integrity.

nanotek

I agree with you totally !

DrugOfChoice

My refund request has been sent. We shall see.

No product and no explanation = no more chances.

Spamalot

It's not silly to go thru their blueprint. It's a very good action plan as opposed to sitting in front of your computer - griping, complaining and thinking about leaping, NobodySpecial. At THIS junction, if you can't teach the course (from week #1 and bonus materials) then you haven't learned anything. Go back to the basics, until you can recite the information in YOUR sleep, buddy.

As a matter of fact, the more people who request for refunds, the better off for those who do stay. I'm satisfied with their level of competency, so should you.

I have faith that for all those who stay the course and take proACTIVE approach...those individuals, indeed, will eventually become true, PPC Search Marketing Experts in less than four months.

Breaking news from Vegas, NV: I just got an email that said, "let them eat cake!"

....Just Kidding!

My point is, take this launch and see it for what it is...The founders have good intentions and as clients, we are simply going thru their "growing" pains. I've seen it happen to other gurus (why not these non-gurus?). So, put on your "big boy's panties", leapers. Yeah, I said it. Be a man and go with the flow of things. AC Content is excellent and is promising to continue to be so....You can't help but be ADDICTED.

Everyone who is complaining on this board about AC are "leapers", and they are just looking for any excuse to pounce. One thing I have to say is, "good riddance". Stop complaining, get your money back and leave the boards open for an exchange of good ideas and "aha" moments. I want to see more positive posts here.

I'll be the pioneer:

I've got 33 campaigns, since last Monday, each with a b-split test. I'm up $21.00 for the week. Yes, not much, but a good start. My daily spenditure limit is: $10.00, and I've only been approved with two CPA networks. My quality score is 8 and 9 out of ten!!

I think my secret of success is that I'm using the vendor's approved email subject titles to construct my campaigns and I'm also using Spanish adword campaigns, too, in the US, only.

I only have a max of 11 keywords per adgroup. I hope this helps someone. If so, please give me a "thanks" accolade, brethren and sistas.

P.S. I, for one, am forever grateful to Aymen and Emmanuel for creating this vehicle for financial freedom. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

Lance K

Well, all I've got to say is thank God they aren't teaching about launching/marketing a training course. They really should hire someone who has a clue about communication and customer service though. I'd be willing to bet that they could almost pay an annual salary with just the amount of money refunded so far.

It's sad really, because it brings in a negative energy from the beginning. You would think that they would want only positive feelings as people begin to consume their content and learn from their expertise.

simebern

Quick question - For those of you who are currently running CPA campaigns through Adwords etc, how are you getting around the low quality score for landing pages??

This is something that had been driving me crazy for the last week or so! Would appreciate some real-life examples or suggestions from those who have mastered this!

Thanks
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mikep791

That should be explained later in the course. Otherwise none of us will be successful.

Google wants a good user experience for its users. So far what we are doing does not deliver that in my opinion.

Mike

simebern

Totally agree Mike!

Adwords seems to be getting a much harder game to play these days.. Even if you have chosen tightly focused keywords, have you ad copy set correctly, you still either suffer from a low QS for the landing page OR your ads don't appear due to bid price issues...

Furthermore, not sure if many of you have had this problem, but I have also found that I sometimes have issues with the display URL (ie/ google dissaproving ads due to display URL problems).

I think if too many people use the same displat URL your ad will not appear, but also what the hell do you put in place of it that reflects the landing page if you cant use the actual landing page!!!!????

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nobodyspecial

I've learned that you've got your head in the sand. Their intro material would only teach the newest of idiots any information. As far as their blueprint, it is censored all to hell compared to the original they released at their Vegas event (which was decent but certainly nothing groundbreaking).

Satisfied with their competency? Bwah hah hah hah.

You mind as well pray to the PPC God ... you'll have a better chance getting your prayers answered than becoming a PPC expert from the yahoos teaching AC.

Growing pains? You've got to be kidding. The launch and marketing has been full of lies and empty promises. People neesd to pull their head out from where the sun doesn't shine and see what's really happening. I finally did when I got my refund. Good riddence to these assholes for wasting my time

I'm glad to see you've got some good campaigns going. Good for you.

Raemi13

Hi,
I haven't mastered this with Google and I was getting frustrated, so I started running campaigns on Yahoo and I've seen a much better result with impressions and clicks and even a few conversions.

I'm looking forward to learning how to master this on Google.

simebern

Hi Raemi,

Thank you kindly for your post - I will give Yahoo a try with the same campaigns I am running in Google and see what happens.. Haven't used Yahoo much to be honest!

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Raemi13

Actually all I am doing is zip/e-mail submits so far. Now I've only been doing this a few days with Yahoo since I paused everything on Google, so maybe they haven't hit me yet, I don't know, but so far it's working.

Harlan

If you are following what is going on, what people are doing is building a blog related to the offer on their own domain and testing traffic.

So PPC goes to your blog - increase quality score - and your blog goes to the CPA offer.

And, if you test quickly and it doesn't work, you can kill the domain name and not have to pay for it. I'm not sure what that time period is.

Look for the weight loss ads all around town leading people to blogs leading them to the **** Weight Loss page.

So you don't really have PPC issues.

Only they taught BS in the first week. And haven't bothered to post week #2.

Why didn't I refund?

Harlan D. Kilstein Ed.D.
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Graphix Guru

No need to apologize, Raemi! I know you were just having fun. And all I was trying to point out was that it's very poor customer service to answer some people but not others. I'm glad you got a quick response. Unfortunately, many of us have not gotten any response whatsoever to repeated inquiries, and that just flat out sucks.

Maybe it's because you're a cute fem and we're just computer dorks? :rolleyes:

Hehe. See, I can kidd around too!

simebern

A key factor in what??

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Graphix Guru

And there it is. Thanks for all you've done in here, jimrips, and I offer kudos.

The point of the course is to do what the course says and be successful! Period. End of story.

It's great that some people are succeeding by putting their own spin the course, but that's not the freakin' point.

If they're going to teach a technique to noobs, it had better be a proven, effective technique, not one that requires improvisation, inspiration and innovation.

If driver training were done like that, 3 out of 5 students would never make it out of the parking lot alive!

Harlan

If you follow exactly what they say, you're gonna get slammed.

Think differently.

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aretedigital

There is one brilliant thing I learned through the experience of signing up for Arbitrage Conspiracy: I should have started reading Warrior Forum -- if not regularly, at least periodically -- a long, long time ago. A valuable lesson indeed.

ToddieM

In the spirit of SirSpamalot:
What have you all done besides complain? How about some real numbers?
I have put out two campaigns faithfully since the Sunday before week 1.
I stopped putting out PPC on Google about a week ago.
Exclusively Yahoo.

Expenses:
Goog Adwords: $8.6
Yahoo Adwords: $168.33
Total: $176.93

Revenues:
Monetize It: $57.60
MaxBounty: $1.25
$58.85, so I've lost $118.08

I have bid more than 0.25 on a keyword because I got impatient with zero impressions. I have posted my goals, and I have checked out all the trending sites and attempted to incorporate those into one of my campaigns.

I've forged relationships with three of my AM's.

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keriev

Early results:

I have only done a few zip and email submits and have not been too successful.

However, I have tried other offers on Neverblue and MaxBounty, the two CPA networks where I was accepted.

Results:
Neverblue sales: 96.20
MaxBounty Sales: 60

I have lost $120 on Neverblue campaigns and have broken even on MaxBounty. I am now trying out yahoo and msn with the MaxBounty campaigns to see how that goes. I am cutting my teeth. At first, I could not even get the ads to show, I could not spend money if I wanted to. Learned a few things, read a bunch, tried some more.

I am content with this. First sale I got I was kinda thrilled. I can see how it works. The cranking is important. I have now started maybe 35 campaigns. For many, I could not even get the ads to show, low quality score and all. So, I have focused on campaigns that meet the "golden nugget" standards. I am having more success there, at least so far.

Best of luck to all.

Eric Graudins

Love it. The irony is beautiful.
Here we have people who have paid 2 grand for an instructional course, and the first lesson they have to learn is to ignore the instructions thet have been given.
Wonderful prelude to the rest of the course. Wonder what other bits students have to intuitionally ignore?
(Sorry, that's probably not a real word, but you know what I mean)


it's like a cartoon I once watched where a father was telling his kid to jump out of a tree into his arms. When the kid jumped, the father stepped back and let him crash to the ground, and said "Let that be a lesson to you kid. Don't trust anyone"
And Harlan, Doctor Chargeback should be able to help you out regardless of the rubbery nature of the guarantee.

The biggest benefit of the internet is that almost everything can be automated.
The biggest curse of the internet is that almost everything can be automated.

StevePeterson

Week 2 Videos Posted - Looks like 7 videos

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jbpico

I'm glad I read the few threads about this program on here first...talked me out of buying this program pretty fast

Eric Graudins

What - You mean this gem is still available?
The doors haven't slammed shut?
They haven't reached the strictly limited number of places available?
The servers haven't melted again?

I'd urge you to rethink your position. After all, you're gunna miss out on all the shock and awe bonuses. And any bonuses offered by the affiliate you purchase this from.

Brave decision. You realise of course that by not taking this offer you are condemning yourself and your wife/children/heirs to a life of penury by not making a hundred grand a day.
I urge you to reconsider !!! Last Chance.
(Sorry, No Affiliate Link. But you should be able to find a few in this thread. Or somewhere.)

The biggest benefit of the internet is that almost everything can be automated.
The biggest curse of the internet is that almost everything can be automated.

Graphix Guru

Here, here, aretedigital! I couldn't agree more.

dkblair

Ok First post here. I've seen alot of negativity about this course, but I was given a very strong referral from someone who knows these guys. And I trust his judgement.

A couple of test campaigns that are doing well for me in the last 7 days, which will be ramped up

1) Spent $12.00, sales $92.00
2) Spent $2.47 sales $21.00
3) Spent $300, sales $400
4) Spent $10.00, sales $33.00
5) Spent $10.11, sales $18.00
6) Spent 0.60, sales $10.00

A few more have broken even, (about 10-15 campaigns) the ones that don't work are dumped.

And I'm a dumb aussie who has only been doing internet marketing since September 08.

I am promoting offers from 9 different CPA companies and none rejected me.

I dont use Google. I wouldn't even consider it for a test campaign. Even I was suprised they had this on the video.

As far as I'm concerned it works, and I will be pushing hard to adding a few zero's on the numbers above.

Most of my conversions come from $0.06 - $0.12 cents a click.

I hope this is off some encouragement to others on this forum.

The main thing that it has proven too me is that internet marketing really works and you really make some serious money in this business, provided you think positive.

Sure the guys don't present well and have had poor customer service. But if I can't recoup the cost 10-20 times over, then there is something seriously wrong as its dead simple.

James Schramko

Howdy,

I have been in transit to the north coast of NSW for a vacation and after getting a tooth ache fixed and a new internet modem for my Laptop am back in full swing.

I am also spending most of my time supporting clients in my forum as promised. I'm about to start making them videos to support the training.

This is where you get real information (backed up by proven results)

tradermike2008

Well you don't undertsand how ppc works then. Unforunately it doesn't look like they have even explained the basics of pcc in this arbitrage course. No surprise.

Yahoo and Google have a vested interest in referring people to solid sources of information and professionally made websites. This way the users of their search engines wll continue to click the ads. If they allow spam type sites and junk advertisers then people will slowly stop clicking the ads and the traffic that ends op going to the advertisers will actually lose its quality.

So yahoo and google trry to stop spamming sites -which the gift offer things tend to be - and frown upon stuff such as keyword stuffing. They don't want to turn into kanoodle.

Guess Aymen doesn't teach any of this basic common sense. Instead he advocates keyword stuffing, which is the exact opposite of what you want to do. What is amazing to me is people are trying it anyway even though they know better simply because they gave these clowns 2k. Is he teaching anything new today?

I'm the ownder of WallStreetWindow.com where I do several big mega launches a year. I also moderate a mastermind group of financial stock trading/forex marketers and affiliate marketers who shares ideas and a launch calendar check it out: http://theprivatealliance.com

nobodyspecial

Sure Toddie, some real numbers for you. Since signing up for AC I've ...

1) Launched a campaign with $30 payout on Dec. 14th. Tweaked on Dec 29th then scaled up last week after a valid sample of data for performance came in.

Here are the numbers from last week:



With a $30 payout, about $1250 profit plus 2% cash back on the adspend (which is about $15k/month).

2) Attended the Traffic University seminar

3) Requested and received two samples for new products I am launching next month

4) Requested a refund from AC

So I've done a little more than "complain" ....

Is that OK or should I continue?

Noah Fleming

Congrats.
That is fantastic!

tradermike2008

That's great!

I'm the ownder of WallStreetWindow.com where I do several big mega launches a year. I also moderate a mastermind group of financial stock trading/forex marketers and affiliate marketers who shares ideas and a launch calendar check it out: http://theprivatealliance.com

beksworld

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check it out: CASHTACTICS (dot) NET

Noah Fleming

The training videos on that site are really great for beginners and it's free.

Rukusx7

Hi, I'm pretty new to the game here, and i seriously "tried" reading through this thread, i got about 4 pages in, and came across some seriously biased posts. Maybe i don't belong in this thread, maybe i should start somewhere else. I became interested in the Arbitrage conspiracy about a week ago, and i love the sound of the concept. I'm sick of pointing my goals down too low because i think something is unattainable. I adopted a new quote for myself "If you keep on doing what you have always done, you will keep on getting what you have always got".

What i want to know, before i spend the next 10 hours reading through this thread, is there something i am actually going to learn in here? Is a newbie such as myself in the correct spot? Is there anyone in here, not necessarily needing to have the will to help me, but have the will to direct me in the correct direction? I'm not looking for a get rich quick scheme or an easy way out, but just some hard solid resources to get my feet wet.

I won't be offended if no one comes forward. I like to think "how did anyone figure out anything to begin with?" They did it on their own, with their own resources and brains, and motivation. I know i am capable of that.

I just don't want to set my foot in an incorrect direction. I'm not afraid of failure, I just would rather avoid it if at all possible. I will be right blunt about what i am looking for. If Aymen can do this, so can i. What resources can i be directed to that will help me attain my goal? Is it necessary to learn internet marketing? What is necessary for me to have under my belt before i even decide to persue this career?

Thanks.

JECKELLL

The report contained some good solid information. broken down into simple steps, and im my opinion the more simple the approach, the more powerful.

Ezine Author

tradermike2008

This thread is mainly consists of a few people bashing the arbitrage conspiracy launch and pointing out inconsistencies and sleaze in their sales process, unhappy customers, and a few affiliates who were saying anything to get people to sign up to so they would earn an affiliate commission. Not sure how much you would actually learn by going through this whole thread. The few bits of educational material have just started in the past few days so if you are looking for that I'd just look back the past few days to find it and not start from the beginning and go forward.

I'm the ownder of WallStreetWindow.com where I do several big mega launches a year. I also moderate a mastermind group of financial stock trading/forex marketers and affiliate marketers who shares ideas and a launch calendar check it out: http://theprivatealliance.com