16th Jan 2009, 11:58 AM | #1301 | |
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Somehow, I felt what you described is exactly what would happen, along with other so-called "gurus". His copy and mug just have that "sticky-ness" to it. The 13 th Warrior | |
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Yanik Silver needs to be stopped. Guy just rides his rep from 5 years ago. Some of the worst products of all time.
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16th Jan 2009, 01:53 PM | #1303 |
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Yep, my access to the AC site was shut down immediately after I sent the refund request email.
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16th Jan 2009, 02:38 PM | #1304 |
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Quick Update: I'm currently listening to the Week Two Webinar and it has restored my confidence that Aymen and Emmanuel really know their stuff... and they are going to share all of their advanced techniques. Their biggest mistake was not making it Extremely Clear that they were going to start with the basics (absolute newbies) and slowly progress onto more advanced techniques... I'm afraid that too many people thought that they were going to make $50k per day doing direct linking running google adwords at $.05 per click. If it were that easy, wouldn't everyone be doing it? This is a job and it takes work but if you do it consistently and follow these guys lead you will make money... at least that is what I believe. |
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Interesting Q&A session with Aymen and Emanuel. They have addressed a lot of the questions that were frustrating a lot of people, including me, touching on some subjects that I think are planned for future weeks. Apparently, there are some success stories, although they admitted many are still struggling. At the start of the call, they both sounded a little flustered -I think the sudden flurry of refund requests may have shocked them. But, for my part, I'm feeling a little more positive about the course. Looking forward to keyword research material on Monday. |
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I'm glad to see others with me are staying the course and still believing in these guys. Rae | |
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what is a cc cutthoney
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what is a cc cutthoney
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16th Jan 2009, 03:39 PM | #1310 | |
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I would respectfully submit that Yanik seriously knows what's working in IM. His mastermind includes some of the most respected IM people in the world. In fact, you can't get in unless you are already making 6 figures for one group and 7 figures for another. Ask those folks why they all re-sign with Yanik. He delivers. I'm not in his MM nor an affiliate. I'm just sharing his people were extremely happy with his working with them. | |
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I join in the call for Aymen & buddies to provide some clarification here or on the main site. Come on guys....show us you have some nads. | |
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16th Jan 2009, 04:48 PM | #1312 | |
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some scraper type site or blog. Dennis | |
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That is incorrect. While having a web site would help, you can get accepted without one to a lot of networks.
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16th Jan 2009, 07:48 PM | #1315 |
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So does anyone have more feed back about this program? Was it worth the money? please share. thanks
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16th Jan 2009, 07:54 PM | #1316 |
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I found this on another thread here, but related... some info for thought: *********************************** In November 2008, down in Las Vegas, there was a private session hosted by Brad Fallon, to showcase a system where you can make $100k a day in CPA Marketing. I did the math in my head. That's $36 million a year. There are some CPA networks that aren't even doing that well. And here was a small team claiming to be making that. So why in the world would I risk my job and come out with a blog post warning people to Do Not Buy the Arbitrage Conspiracy program? Because I couldn't keep quiet over, in what I felt, was an unethical marketing ploy. - Stating $100k days were being met when they were not - "Start for as little as $50.00" soon changed to "at least $500" to start - Constantly changing refund policy - $800 check shown on sales page Seriously, there was an $800 check (it is gone now) on the sales page but if we are really talking about a program to make $100k a day, let's see checks for $5 million. **************************** From someone on the 'inside' who thought it was unethical? And, now recommending NOT to buy? May explain why all the gurus who so adamantly promoted it on the sales page initially cannot even be found now. Maybe they knew something we didn't. hmmmm... I know they keep highlighting the positive stuff with every webinar, but I can't help to wonder what percent of the current members are less than breaking even? |
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I hope you are correct and we all see some response here to clear things up. If the other guru's (Andrew X & The Loophole Guys) to name a couple, can do it then surely Aymen can put some time into this forum too. I think customers deserve to know that their investment is safe and the seller will honor his claims of product quality and refund policy. | |
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Sheeesh! Why not read the previous posts. There's plenty there to help you make up your mind. And I'd say it will be a few months before anyone will be able to tell you if it was worth the money.
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When I first start swimming in this shark infested water of IM,the power and the glory of the copy -- all hype-- would hunt me most of the time--capturing my credit card and all my hard earned money. Suspend the rational conciousness and sell them whatever they want by being more unrealistic .. That dude Jo Han Mok (MUCK) style of copying in all it variations. Harlan included too with all that NLP Bullshit! Now everytime I see anybody showing checks in their sale page or bragging about how much they make. A big NO. However, I was about to fall for AC and I immediatley did some research and thank god for WF and Jerry West. Jerry a attended the Las Vegas and walked out!!! They saved me. The more they suspend our belief the more we fall. I swear it is like addiction I nearly had a relapse.. I think this kind of copy is unethical and sooner or later the saturation will happen. I am already numbed to it.....
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Some have requested refunds. Personally, I didn't, and for good reason. And I am very happy with my decision. It's been not only helpful to have professionals who know how to market cpa offers, but also to have the focus to keep it going and not flip to another way to make money online. Since 98% of folks don't even read/watch the info products they buy, just paying attention can be a huge advantage in a course like this. |
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In places where there is high humidity, you can shower 10 times and you still have that "film" feel on your skin, like I said before, his copy and mug just has that "sticky-ness" feel to it. There we go. Hard pressed to get UN-biased, honesty in this industry.
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Who knows, maybe in the end AC may be the course it says it is, time will tell. But has anyone purchased or heard of, hands down, high quality stuff that did what it said it could do that started out or continued with such , seemingly, willful clumsiness? The 13 th Warrior |
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If it struts like a turkey, and gobbles like a turkey, what is it?
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I was there. I totally disagree with you. It is quality actionable meaty information. That seminar changed everything for me and Yanik is a very nice person who over delivers. | |
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An opportunity to learn from an expert. They may have done you a disservice however you may never know. You have risked nothing and gained nothing. Stop handing your destiny to other people - they ALL have agendas...and they do not have much planned for you. | |
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I came across Jerry Wests blog/website etc and signed up for his free CPA course and newsletter, his report on the Las Vegas event and CPA in general is very sobering to say the least, if anyone is still within the 30 day period and still sitting on the fence about quiting this very expensive course, you should at least read what he has to say, sounds like someone who is a straight shooter!
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However, He was talking about the marketing of the course not the course itself. Anyone on the fence to quit should quit. They are the wrong type of person to succeed at this (and many other business models) | |
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17th Jan 2009, 08:16 AM | #1332 | |
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Another CPA authority has quoted a figure of 20% so I think working with a 20-35% scrube rate figure is a sure thing Whereas when selling a good clickbank product the return rate is usually 5% or less He also said that CPA is a ruthless cut throat business whereas the AC guys make it sound like fun! | |
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Comments like "the AC guys make it sound like fun!" and "sales pitch " relate to the way it was sold. Bear in mind that he has stopped all of his CPA projects "because they are all down right now due to the markets." Jerry has nothing against Aymen personally, his issue was the launch, how it was misrepresented and how it was just basically injected with hype during a recession. This is exactly what he told me. (It is on his blog if you want to have a look). If Jerry prints it on his own blog surely that is fact? | |
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Agree. I want more people to quit CPA as well. |
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Jerry Walked out quite early too. His own words on his blog: "I have against Aymen personally, my issue was the launch, how it was misrepresented and how it was just basically injected with hype during a recession." He did try to contact Aymen to ask him more details.. | |
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He mentioned he is not doing CPA at the moment. | |
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A new bonus has been added, Tru-Guru, anybody got any knowledge of this, from 1st look it looks like the 1st bonus thats worth anything!
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i got some knowledge out of it
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(There are a lot more cool bonuses coming through as well. I know of several more that will be valuable) | |
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"STEP ONE: You Need a Business Corporation. Do not start a CPA business without one. It will take just a few days and around $500.00 for the attorney to draw up the paper work. DO NOT SKIP THIS STEP. STEP TWO: Get an "Umbrella Policy";When you become successful, the likelihood you will be sued escalates. The Umbrella policy protects you in this matter. This will help you sleep at night. STEP THREE: Create a Trust and Transfer Your Assets";If you don't already have a family trust, get one. It is one of the best asset protection strategies out there. Your attorney can advise you further." That's ridiculous. If you are starting a business, focus on getting your first conversion or sales ONLY. Start making some consistent revenue before you even consider these formalities. If it turns out to be something you not want to do, you haven't dumped cash on them. Start by DOING business not PLAYING business. | |
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A single comment from Aymen would not appease the majority of posters in this thread, and you know that. I assume from what I know of James is that he truly believes in Aymen and what he is teaching. He knows Aymen personally. And, he has applied what Aymen has taught him to make a very good living on the internet. Nothing wrong with being passionate about something or someone you believe in...
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As time goes on my thoughts are getting clearer for me as far as the AC is concerned, it seems that what they have mastered is: 1. Become Super PPC experts 2. Learnt some tricks that allow them to scale up big time 3. Learnt how to manage their cash flow But for me is step one is really the key and I'm not really concerned about step 3 right now, and I'd only be interested in step 2 if I can graduate step 1 So I'm thinking surely I can learn step one for a lot less than $2000, from better teachers with better materials, videos, manuals, software etc? |
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I'm going to stop being lazy and use my mouse instead of my legs. In case of fire, use stairs. I'd rather use water. If you think I'm avoiding going to work at my "other" job, you'd be correct! | |
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And I'm pretty sure just one quote from him would spawn so many tangential questions that he couldn't be bothered with it. As they continue to work out the bugs with their delivery and course teaching, I believe he's more committed to those who spent the $2000, not those who didn't and taking potshots, and certainly not those who did and are complaining after three weeks that they're not making that "50-100K a day" thing. | |
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I did, however, get a business journal and started making entries to it. That advice I thought was rock solid. | |
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17th Jan 2009, 01:47 PM | #1349 | |
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I recommend everyone sign up to get what Jerry has to offer, but he has come clean and said he will be creating a "lite" version along with a paid version...so his marketing machine is working well. As for the question about where else to look for great high powered info, you can read this forum, and see quite a few references to gauher chaudry and payperclickformula (hint hint).
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Being from Canada, and running USA - CPA offers through Google Adwords, I want to see that my Ad is showing correctly in the US. When I use Worldproxy202, google, then my keyword to find my Ad and click on it I get a redirect notice with my link cut at the ampersand and no Ad showing. Is it the way I am doing it or is there a problem? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks |
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