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HI warriors

Recently about 2 weeks ago, I decided to put push my affiliate career harder. I don't want to make pennies anymore. So, I plan to promote some bizops

So, I begin to spy other's landing page (flogs) and ads copies and modify it a little of them. I then came out with 3 different LPs, 2 ads copies and 1 offer. Which pays $38 per $1.95 CC#
I setup the LPs rotates so I will can get the best LP that will converts.

So after 2 weeks, (2nd Tier PPC) I have 4million impression, 4000 clicks, 12 conversions ...
Total cost break down to be $926.40 and made $456..So I lost $470. It might not be a huge sum to some of you. But It's my hard earned 9-5 job cash , which is hurts..
Highest conversion was like 3 a day ..and past few days 0 conversions..

It's very frustrated that I don't know what's went wrong. Is it the traffic that might be quite junk? My ads copies not compelling..My LP converts almost equal -4 each, so I cant determine which to strip my clothes off...

Please help...shine me some light and guidance..
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  • Profile picture of the author Cesar Sampaio
    The conversion rate is abysmal. Maybe the offer is not attractive enough.

    If you could reduce the costs drastically maybe the campaign would become profitable but from the looks of it, the problem is the offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
    so you think should rotate offers instead ?
    or change the traffic source ?
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  • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Steve
    Can you provide some links for the offer LP and the article you were using? maybe there was a disconnect between the content on the article compared to the offer LP...

    Also, were you able to track down which days, times yielded the conversions you did generate?
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  • Profile picture of the author imback
    Originally Posted by nicky1980 View Post

    HI warriors

    Recently about 2 weeks ago, I decided to put push my affiliate career harder. I don't want to make pennies anymore. So, I plan to promote some bizops

    So, I begin to spy other's landing page (flogs) and ads copies and modify it a little of them. I then came out with 3 different LPs, 2 ads copies and 1 offer. Which pays $38 per $1.95 CC#
    I setup the LPs rotates so I will can get the best LP that will converts.

    So after 2 weeks, (2nd Tier PPC) I have 4million impression, 4000 clicks, 12 conversions ...
    Total cost break down to be $926.40 and made $456..So I lost $470. It might not be a huge sum to some of you. But It's my hard earned 9-5 job cash , which is hurts..
    Highest conversion was like 3 a day ..and past few days 0 conversions..

    It's very frustrated that I don't know what's went wrong. Is it the traffic that might be quite junk? My ads copies not compelling..My LP converts almost equal -4 each, so I cant determine which to strip my clothes off...

    Please help...shine me some light and guidance..

    You do not seem to be doing all that bad to be honest and you are learning.

    Provide us with some links and more information so we can help!

    Keep your head up and good luck


    Chad
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    • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
      Originally Posted by imback View Post

      You do not seem to be doing all that bad to be honest and you are learning.

      Provide us with some links and more information so we can help!

      Keep your head up and good luck


      Chad
      Thanks chad

      what kind of information and links ...?
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      • Profile picture of the author imback
        Originally Posted by nicky1980 View Post

        Thanks chad

        what kind of information and links ...?

        If you provide us with your landing pages and similar things we can help make suggestions for you :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author machej
    Don't put all of your eggs into one basket. Try a few different projects.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
      Originally Posted by machej View Post

      Don't put all of your eggs into one basket. Try a few different projects.
      the trouble is, I dont have many eggs, I just have 1 egg and 1 basket.
      I'll divert more if I have master this one
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  • Profile picture of the author KevScarb
    Originally Posted by nicky1980 View Post

    HI warriors

    Recently about 2 weeks ago, I decided to put push my affiliate career harder. I don't want to make pennies anymore. So, I plan to promote some bizops

    So, I begin to spy other's landing page (flogs) and ads copies and modify it a little of them. I then came out with 3 different LPs, 2 ads copies and 1 offer. Which pays $38 per $1.95 CC#
    I setup the LPs rotates so I will can get the best LP that will converts.

    So after 2 weeks, (2nd Tier PPC) I have 4million impression, 4000 clicks, 12 conversions ...
    Total cost break down to be $926.40 and made $456..So I lost $470. It might not be a huge sum to some of you. But It's my hard earned 9-5 job cash , which is hurts..
    Highest conversion was like 3 a day ..and past few days 0 conversions..

    It's very frustrated that I don't know what's went wrong. Is it the traffic that might be quite junk? My ads copies not compelling..My LP converts almost equal -4 each, so I cant determine which to strip my clothes off...

    Please help...shine me some light and guidance..
    And how many of those 4000 did you try and get on to a list first ? . I will ask you one thing. How often do you buy something the first time you see it ?

    You would have a better idea of answers to those questions you asked if you just did step one, and tried to get them on a list. If they won't sign up for biz op info, what chance you got of selling them something down the line ?

    4000 targeted clicks should have added 400- 800 to list, that you can then market to over time.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    Dude i think its usual. its not necessary that you will get conversion everyday right? sometimes it happens. so don't be tensed. it will be just OK. but if you think that it is unusual then check the sources of your recent visitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
      Originally Posted by marketwarrior06 View Post

      Dude i think its usual. its not necessary that you will get conversion everyday right? sometimes it happens. so don't be tensed. it will be just OK. but if you think that it is unusual then check the sources of your recent visitors.
      hmm, I know but the frustrated thing is, I don't know what's wrong with them..
      traffic low quality? LP sucks ? Offer sucks?

      LP = rotating between 3 of them and similar to what others using.

      Offers = user only pays $1.95 instead $97 and also it's $4EPC, network owner told.
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Tip: Stop using 2nd tier PPC platforms. They just dont convert as well and you get hit with rejections later on by the merchants.

    Any questions just let me know
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  • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
    Nick, I dont think the big 3 SE will allow me do bizops
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    • Profile picture of the author convert2steve
      Chances are that if you are running BizOpps and US bizopps is that you are bidding against others whom have been in the space quite sometime now are are positioned for cheap clicks and high enough CTR to sustain those cheap clicks due to the thousands, and thousands they have spent over time.

      Also, with BizOpp if the pay today cost is above $4 and up to $9+ you are going to struggle to convert clicks at the high CPC's / CPM's on your fresh accounts.

      I would suggest that you look for some international offers UK, AU etc which can be easily substituted and you will most likely find cheaper clicks and less saturated targets.

      What bizOpp are you trying to run? I have several and can point you in the right direction and help you along the way.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
        Originally Posted by convert2steve View Post

        Chances are that if you are running BizOpps and US bizopps is that you are bidding against others whom have been in the space quite sometime now are are positioned for cheap clicks and high enough CTR to sustain those cheap clicks due to the thousands, and thousands they have spent over time.

        Also, with BizOpp if the pay today cost is above $4 and up to $9+ you are going to struggle to convert clicks at the high CPC's / CPM's on your fresh accounts.

        I would suggest that you look for some international offers UK, AU etc which can be easily substituted and you will most likely find cheaper clicks and less saturated targets.

        What bizOpp are you trying to run? I have several and can point you in the right direction and help you along the way.
        Thank Steve,
        I'm running bizops in UK at the moment. Plan to go branch out to other countries after I get my campaign optmised
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by nicky1980 View Post

    HI warriors

    Recently about 2 weeks ago, I decided to put push my affiliate career harder. I don't want to make pennies anymore. So, I plan to promote some bizops

    So, I begin to spy other's landing page (flogs) and ads copies and modify it a little of them. I then came out with 3 different LPs, 2 ads copies and 1 offer. Which pays $38 per $1.95 CC#
    I setup the LPs rotates so I will can get the best LP that will converts.

    So after 2 weeks, (2nd Tier PPC) I have 4million impression, 4000 clicks, 12 conversions ...
    Total cost break down to be $926.40 and made $456..So I lost $470. It might not be a huge sum to some of you. But It's my hard earned 9-5 job cash , which is hurts..
    Highest conversion was like 3 a day ..and past few days 0 conversions..

    It's very frustrated that I don't know what's went wrong. Is it the traffic that might be quite junk? My ads copies not compelling..My LP converts almost equal -4 each, so I cant determine which to strip my clothes off...

    Please help...shine me some light and guidance..
    Honestly, first off - don't use a cc submit if you are having issues, this is one of the last types of offers you should be promoting.. start small with a low paying offer and move your way up..
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    • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Honestly, first off - don't use a cc submit if you are having issues, this is one of the last types of offers you should be promoting.. start small with a low paying offer and move your way up..
      Chris,
      Thanks for you input
      Do you think I should promote other smaller one such as dating ..instead?
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  • Profile picture of the author nicky1980
    any help? it looks like I hit a roadblock
    traffic source is sucking my money, I'm not getting conversions and I dont know what to do...
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