Has anybody got paid by Azoogle/Epic Direct Lately ?

by kirch
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I have to receive $ x,xxx from azoogle/epic direct towards my publisher payment/commissions for the month of March(to be paid on april 30)

I ahve been informed that the payments are on hold for all the publishers due to 'some' problem and they can not tell when they can release the payments to pubslishers !!!

Has anyone got paid by azzogle lately ?? Can anybody tell whats going on ?
#azoogle or epic #direct #paid
  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    i have huge problems gettign wire money form them as well last month. They even told me the money ws wired when it wasn't EVENTUALLY they paid up but it took forever... Hmm.. i have heard a few rumblings recently about his....anyone chip in? What's gonig these days with pyaments? I think i am cullnig my NW's down to the paying ones and dump the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    Have you guys tried to call your AMs? Azoogle/Epic is one of the biggest networks in the industry.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    Yes.......i was in contact with them almost daily that wasn't the problem..oh well maybe it was a glitch
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  • Profile picture of the author bobhenry
    i emailed them many times , but no response..i am still waiting for my march month commission..
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  • Profile picture of the author MrGoogle
    Does anyone know what's going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author mjMONEY
      Azoogle kind of sucks, much better networks out there that offer important 3 things: better payouts, better offers, and better PAYMENT methods which is huge if you're just starting out and have a little marketing money to blow.
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      • Profile picture of the author kirch
        Originally Posted by mjMONEY View Post

        Azoogle kind of sucks, much better networks out there that offer important 3 things: better payouts, better offers, and better PAYMENT methods which is huge if you're just starting out and have a little marketing money to blow.
        I am with azoogle from last 3 yrs and I have been paid ontime,everytime.Azoogle is one of the best and reliable network .I don't have problem with Azoogle/epic direct.Just wanted to know if anybody knew whats going on with the payments
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        • Profile picture of the author Vincent1988
          Yes, they paid since 1 year. Always on time . Email them. They are friendly and will help you

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          • Profile picture of the author kirch
            Originally Posted by Vincent1988 View Post

            Yes, they paid since 1 year. Always on time . Email them. They are friendly and will help you

            cheers
            I spoke with them on phone and on IM with couple of Aznadvisors on IM,i got a similar reply from all of them,that they have some 'technical' problemsin releasing teh payments to publishers and will be releasing soon (No body had asked for my publishers ID and there was similar reply from all).It is frustuating to hear that they 'can not say' when they can release the payments to publihsers !
            Am I the only one or is there anyone whose payments got struck !
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          • Profile picture of the author YieldAds
            Originally Posted by Vincent1988 View Post

            Yes, they paid since 1 year. Always on time . Email them. They are friendly and will help you

            cheers

            Not true. Epic Direct never paid us, although some 25 friendly emails promised us payments :/
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    so quite a few of u are having problems with them? That's not good at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    At least they still pay out (eventually) Which is better tha Scam N.W. Feedflair that simply do not pay out and will comletely ignore all your emails. so could be worse...once a N.W. starts doing this though....it's a slippery path I.M.H.O. steer well clear of Feedfalir though!
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  • Profile picture of the author simonbuzz
    Banned
    My friends money also got stuck..
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    No..like i say it took me about 30 emails and 5 months to get a payment from them. Maybe one of their people need to come here and tell what is going on?
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian Stiplin
      Originally Posted by sloanjim View Post

      No..like i say it took me about 30 emails and 5 months to get a payment from them. Maybe one of their people need to come here and tell what is going on?
      30 emails and 5 months? wow, that sucks
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      • Profile picture of the author web_dev
        I guess I'm not the only one. I use to get paid (wire) every Tuesday. Now, payments are delayed for as much as 3 weeks. They come on random days too. Sometimes on Wednesday and sometimes on Fridays. This has been happening for last 2 months now. Last I got paid was on July 8. I have to constantly bug my AM. Getting annoying.
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        • Profile picture of the author web_dev
          I just checked. My last payment was on July 8th for the period June 6-June12. Azoogle use to pay on Tuesdays for the previous week if were on wire. Now payments are as late as 1 month.
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          • Profile picture of the author web_dev
            Just got the word today that noone is getting paid today either due power outage. Will have to wait until tomorrow. Will report to see if I get paid tomorrow.
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            • Profile picture of the author Inforcer
              You can forget it. They are not paying anyone anymore. My AM has vanished from IM, nobody answers the phone or emails.

              I have come to terms with the fact that I will not receive my money anymore. Oh well, another scam company bites the dust. I guess their stunts with the Playboy Mansion was too costly and bankrupted them

              No tears though. I am / was with them for 2 years and they always sucked in comparison to other companies such as Neverblue, Hydra and all the other big players and almost all smaller companies I work with who are top notch and professional.

              I asked them to close my account and even that they did not do :rolleyes:
              Just forget about epicNetwork aka. epicFail and move on. They are done. I am assuring you first hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dhira
    I am on AIM with epicteam8509 for an explanation.
    This person is an ass. Short replies, no apologies, no explanations:

    We are aware of the issue. We have had issues with our automated system but all publisshers will be getting paid in full. Unfortuantely we can't provide an exact date but we are hoping it will be very soon. We appreciate your patience as this is a frustration on our end also.
    We will have the money sent as soon as possible
    We are notifying publishers as we pay them
    .... WTF?

    Time to find a different network...
    Never had a problem before, but this is huge.
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  • Profile picture of the author kingrob84
    i have also being having trouble getting money from them
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    • Profile picture of the author oDigger
      We used to work closely with Epic when they were known as Azoogle and they were always on point with their payments for us.

      They're a big company so they have a lot of red tape their turn around time is slow as sludge when an issue arises. They should work it out though.
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      • Profile picture of the author wens
        Originally Posted by oDigger View Post

        We used to work closely with Epic when they were known as Azoogle and they were always on point with their payments for us.

        They're a big company so they have a lot of red tape their turn around time is slow as sludge when an issue arises. They should work it out though.

        Wondering if you have received your commissions for June?
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  • Profile picture of the author wens
    I've been working with Epic/Azoogle for many years. Always got paid on time until last month, May 2011. I normally get a direct deposit on the 15th each month and did not recieve it until June 1st. My affiliate manager says they are working hard to resolve whatever issue they are having. Meanwhile June 15th has rolled around and i am yet to receive my commission once again. The affiliate manager is extremely casual and vague about the situation. I'm a bit frustrated with the lack of communication and am hoping they arn't having financial problems. Anyone get Junes commissions?
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  • Profile picture of the author LaSCuBana
    I keep on hearing this. I would drop them immediately because if they are unstable now then they are working from the negative and you want a network that is working from the positive. You should pick a network who is selective on changing their monthly payments to bi-monthly and weeklies but it still able to do it. It means they have a pool of money and will be able to pay you even if their advertisers don't pay them. You can also chose networks that have 500+ Exclusive offers which means they have had a consistent long-term relationship with their advertiser. And do your research!
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  • Profile picture of the author merereilly
    Hmmmm the first sign of instability at a CPA network is dropping publisher payments. Most networks pay their publishers FIRST -- even if the advertiser backs out on them. If you're finding that you're not getting paid, get your eggs in a different basket Constant revenue is necessary for all of us to be able to keep our businesses afloat!
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  • Profile picture of the author aditya321
    I want to start CPA as soon as possible. I even bought a site on flippa which make 300$ a month on CPA networks. Please hit me up with an account guys or introduce me to some good network owner. Will truly appreciate it. I will be using mainly PPC, PPV for marketing though i don think I will stick only to these methods.
    All networks arent even giving a call. This is very sad.
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    • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Steve
      Originally Posted by aditya321 View Post

      I want to start CPA as soon as possible. I even bought a site on flippa which make 300$ a month on CPA networks. Please hit me up with an account guys or introduce me to some good network owner. Will truly appreciate it. I will be using mainly PPC, PPV for marketing though i don think I will stick only to these methods.
      All networks arent even giving a call. This is very sad.
      Aditya - I think we already work together and if you want to reach out to me and let me know which networks you're trying to get into let me know and i can reach out on your behalf to help the approval process.
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      • Profile picture of the author Seether777
        Still not getting paid by Epic. Anyone else actually get a payment recently?
        - looking for hope
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      • Profile picture of the author sangelf
        Originally Posted by COPEAC Steve View Post

        Aditya - I think we already work together and if you want to reach out to me and let me know which networks you're trying to get into let me know and i can reach out on your behalf to help the approval process.

        Hey Steve,

        (I still can not PM anybody, hence writing to you here)
        Could you please help me with getting registered with Copeac, thanks. I am from Australia and just started doing some CPA promotions and I am currently with Maxbounty. In their website, Copeac has mentioned that it is after very experienced CPA publishers only, so did not want to get rejected lightly

        Please let me know if you can help me with it, and I will not forget your help!

        Thanks in advance
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          • Profile picture of the author smaxor
            Copeac no longer pays bills.

            Azoogle is a few months behind in payments. They're having some cash flow issues from what they say which should be remedied by end of year. We shall see. They're saying everyone will get paid 100% it's just going to take a while.
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            • Profile picture of the author bqpennell
              Originally Posted by smaxor View Post

              Copeac no longer pays bills.

              Azoogle is a few months behind in payments. They're having some cash flow issues from what they say which should be remedied by end of year. We shall see. They're saying everyone will get paid 100% it's just going to take a while.

              Not addressing this as a stab at you, However i solely disagree, Them having financial problems is the end of a network, With many publishers using PPC or PPV, running campaigns can be expensive and they need a steady cash flow to keep them running.

              If any network i can care less what the name is constantly takes you a few months to get paid then you would have to be either a Idiot to continue or a very rich man with too much faith.

              Money issues are damaging to any networks. However the networks put them self there by making promises they can not keep to get you from network A to network B. By doing this it sounds great and for few months they stick to it but when they have already paid you for leads the advertisers do not pay for cause a network didnt want to take a month or two to test one's traffic i can assure you that your payments will start off being delayed then eventually stopped.

              We do not work with many Publishers however the ones we do work with know up front net 15 1st month with 1k Threshold and then if quality checks out weekly provided they still reach the threshold. May sound harsh but i bet we do not pay for any fraudulent affiliates and if one does sneak by one month they do not the second. So we do not get hit hard on reversals.

              Most network that offers you weekly from the start with out testing EVERYONE'S traffic first may have there heart in the right place but our destined for failure. Once in a while one may get lucky, But you wouldn't drive a car blind why would you start a business blinded as well.

              We are very strict on quality, However we feel this is to protect affiliates so any affiliate that has a issue with this well then we do not really want to work with any ways so no harm done.

              Bottom line is if you are not getting paid on time, Stop and switch as there is to many networks out there to let them get away with this BS, considering with the amount of networks out there they are lucky you picked them in the first place.
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              • Profile picture of the author Bill Hugall
                Originally Posted by bqpennell View Post

                Not addressing this as a stab at you, However i solely disagree, Them having financial problems is the end of a network, With many publishers using PPC or PPV, running campaigns can be expensive and they need a steady cash flow to keep them running.

                If any network i can care less what the name is constantly takes you a few months to get paid then you would have to be either a Idiot to continue or a very rich man with too much faith.

                Money issues are damaging to any networks. However the networks put them self there by making promises they can not keep to get you from network A to network B. By doing this it sounds great and for few months they stick to it but when they have already paid you for leads the advertisers do not pay for cause a network didnt want to take a month or two to test one's traffic i can assure you that your payments will start off being delayed then eventually stopped.

                We do not work with many Publishers however the ones we do work with know up front net 15 1st month with 1k Threshold and then if quality checks out weekly provided they still reach the threshold. May sound harsh but i bet we do not pay for any fraudulent affiliates and if one does sneak by one month they do not the second. So we do not get hit hard on reversals.

                Most network that offers you weekly from the start with out testing EVERYONE'S traffic first may have there heart in the right place but our destined for failure. Once in a while one may get lucky, But you wouldn't drive a car blind why would you start a business blinded as well.

                We are very strict on quality, However we feel this is to protect affiliates so any affiliate that has a issue with this well then we do not really want to work with any ways so no harm done.

                Bottom line is if you are not getting paid on time, Stop and switch as there is to many networks out there to let them get away with this BS, considering with the amount of networks out there they are lucky you picked them in the first place.

                Well said. Can't believe that in this business they would have a tough time keep cash up but so it goes. I sure hope everyone has quit their work with this company
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  • Profile picture of the author Inforcer
    Update: After threatening to take their Network apart I FINALLY got my payment and my account with them closed. I am happy that I have no dealings with them anymore ...
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    yeah been fone for a few months with them...
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  • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
    You guys think that's bad. I have been waiting over 1 YEAR for a measly $400. It's got to the point where I should get compensation for broadband use for the amount of emails I have sent them. A**holes.
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  • Profile picture of the author Goldy
    It 's been 2 years that I'm with them and they use to pay without fault every month. But now it has been 2 months that I haven't received any money. (~$800)
    I talked with my im a couple a time and she kept promising me that will be paid soon.. and yet, nothing.
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    • Profile picture of the author makeMore2020
      I am still waiting for my payments of 5k which was earned in JULY.
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  • Profile picture of the author flying2013
    My earning from this June was just released. I emailed them a couple time and they keep promising that the payment will back on schedule soon.

    I used to believe epicdirect is the best CPA company I have worked with.
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  • Profile picture of the author musiczone514
    So I have been with them for 4-5 months, and my only earnings for the investment I made has not been paid yet, they keep saying couple of weeks.
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    • Profile picture of the author web_dev
      Long delays here. Been with for many years. Payments are regularly delayed. I heard from multiple sources they are having financial issues.
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      • Profile picture of the author roundsoftz
        Well they are still in contact, not running for the hills anyway....

        My AM told me last month that one of their newly acquired divisions (not the CPA network) ran into some cash flow problems and they had to back it up with earnings from the CPA network.

        Seems they are still months behind, want us to be their bank...
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  • Profile picture of the author flying2013
    Another 3 months late of my affiliate payment! Last time I got payment was for earnings from this August

    Can anyone recommend any better affiliate networks?
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Zapp
    Contact your affiliate manager or try calling them directly. They should be able to tell you what is exactly going on with the payments.
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  • Profile picture of the author testwarrior
    We have not been paid yet for commissions earned in summer 2011!
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  • Profile picture of the author galaxygold
    Azoogle / EMG is not paying most of their affiliates since may 2011. Reason they are telling mostly is of "technical nature", sometimes "Bank Issue" and some times AM just avoids affiliates. Is this really happening? I my self have 5 (Aug-Dec) months of earnings stuck there and still I hear every time I ask them stories that I'll be paid next week and this keeps on and on. We're in 2012 and still no payment so far, too disturbing. Is Azoogle/EMG still a #1 choice for Affiliates?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jetmir
      Originally Posted by galaxygold View Post

      Is Azoogle/EMG still a #1 choice for Affiliates?
      Yes, it is. For the blind ones, of course.

      Everyone should stop sending traffic to them and the new affiliates should watch out and not work with them.

      There tens of other TOP-NOTCH CPA networks you can choose from that actually pay their affiliates in time.

      Good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author flying2013
        We should spread the word and let other affiliates be aware of Azoogle/Epic!
        They really suck!

        Originally Posted by Ghurabaa View Post

        Yes, it is. For the blind ones, of course.

        Everyone should stop sending traffic to them and the new affiliates should watch out and not work with them.

        There tens of other TOP-NOTCH CPA networks you can choose from that actually pay their affiliates in time.

        Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author LymeJosh
    It's very unlikely any of us will see our money. A bunch of words these days, no action.
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  • Profile picture of the author sloanjim
    are thery filing or something now? Seems they have given up!
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    • Profile picture of the author kjwlegend
      sent bunch of Emails but got no response!

      They still owe me 6 months payment since Aug, 2011.

      Can't find my AM. This network sucks now
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      • Profile picture of the author Seether777
        It's called a pyramid scheme... Just don't be the last one trying to get paid....!
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      • Profile picture of the author ImHot
        EVERYONE WHO HAS NOT BEEN PAID, JOIN THIS FACEBOOK FAN PAGE:
        https://www.facebook.com/pages/Epic-...09308722434666

        These guys have not been paying ANYONE. Everyone please join and spread the word around so that Epic Direct will take us seriously.
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  • Profile picture of the author ImHot
    I AM HAVING THIS EXACT PROBLEM TOO.

    I AM EXPECTING FEB AND MARCH!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author Seether777
      Originally Posted by ImHot View Post

      I AM HAVING THIS EXACT PROBLEM TOO.

      I AM EXPECTING FEB AND MARCH!!!

      Dude, get in line. I AM EXPECTING JUNE, JULY AND AUGUST 2011!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author dynamoblue
    Have you filed a claim against them with the better business bureau? I think it's awful that they are stiffing affiliates but still advertise on their site that they are the #1 CPA affiliate program. By saying, "new to affiliate marketing? our epic adviser team is here to help you reach your monetary goals" shows they are clearly marketing to unaware noobies. Also, they have an A+ BBB rating so they look totally legit... just awful.

    Link to their BBB profile page here
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    • Profile picture of the author flying2013
      Originally Posted by dynamoblue View Post

      Have you filed a claim against them with the better business bureau? I think it's awful that they are stiffing affiliates but still advertise on their site that they are the #1 CPA affiliate program. By saying, "new to affiliate marketing? our epic adviser team is here to help you reach your monetary goals" shows they are clearly marketing to unaware noobies. Also, they have an A+ BBB rating so they look totally legit... just awful.

      Link to their BBB profile page here
      This is damn right! I am gonna file my claim this week and let's see if it will work.
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  • Profile picture of the author kirch
    Epicdirect may file for bankruptcy .Forget getting paid by them in future, anyone is still promoting them !

    Epic May File Bankruptcy, Assetts Being Sold
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    this is atually scary
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    some times its late.
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    Performance Marketing Insider has confirmed that they are closing down. The article can be found on performinsider.com
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    Lol what is everyone expecting, a taxpayer bailout for the affiliate marketing industry?
    If the network didn't get paid, where do you think the money will come from?
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  • Profile picture of the author BozakAxel
    Epic May File Bankruptcy, Assetts Being Sold

    Performance Marketing Insider has learned that Epic Direct, formerly known as Azoogle, is currently being slated for closing and they are having discussions of bankruptcy. As of Wednesday, their entire staff has been laid off and a spokesperson with the company has confirmed that the company is currently winding down -- and no more publisher payments have been made.
    Additionally publishers have been informed not to send any more traffic to the company. The spokesperson confirmed that the decision about if the company will file bankruptcy is still being discussed by the board and any remaining few employees are not able to answer questions.
    We have additionally been told by insiders that the company had faced enormous financial difficult this year with tens of millions of dollars of unpaid debts from a variety of companies not willing to pay their bills. This caused significant cash flow issues and with a growing publisher base worried about payments, traffic dwindled.
    According to Mundo Media, they have bought assets from Epic Direct including domain names from their "host division" and several Epic Employees have already been hired by Mundo Media.
    The social division and display division of Epic has already been spun out as a separate company, Kinetic Social, almost a year ago to purposely separate the businesses and liabilities.
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