When do affiliate networks get suspicious?

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Is $3000 a month in commissions starting out as an affiliate look suspicious to places like CJ and Maxbounty? Or is that pretty low for an affiliate anyways?
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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    As far as i know, $3000 a month is not much. Many affiliates are generating 5 figures a month from CPA offers alone. Do you want to apply for Maxbounty? I would suggest you be honest with your application, don't tell stories
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    As far as I know joining CJ and Maxbounty would not create any problem .
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    • Profile picture of the author dragoncpa
      Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

      As far as I know joining CJ and Maxbounty would not create any problem .
      Maxbounty is not easy to apply now
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      • Profile picture of the author Ray Jonnes
        Originally Posted by dragoncpa View Post

        Maxbounty is not easy to apply now
        Noooo. They accept almost everyone. Just dont tell lie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Stephen Adams
    $3000 a month and your just starting out as an affiliate. that's pretty darn good .. share ur secrets
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  • Profile picture of the author PandoraMarketing
    They will only get suspicious if a % of your leads are fraud or of poor quality, otherwise you have nothing to worry about. Keep in close touch with your AM and ask them for a quality check etc, be transparent! Honesty is best policy, trust
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    • Profile picture of the author Jit Lim
      I do know that the networks will check out your leads from time to time including the traffic source. This may just be a phone call to the lead for example and some networks are quite tough and will terminate your account immediately if it violates any TOS.
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    • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Steve
      Really tough to answer that without knowing some variables:

      If the offer being run has had minimal to no traffic and a spike occurs, that may raise a red flag and networks may run Click Reports to determine where traffic is coming from. Also, they'll probably reach out you to confirm methods being used.

      If you rarely or never speak to your AM, that may raise a red flag considering they don't know who you are and don't have a track record of traffic to evaluate.

      If the traffic comes in very quickly then stops, that could raise some red flags. Networks may think that's a bot stuffing leads.

      The bigger the network, the more likely the $3k / month will fly under the radar...That's very impressive starting out, congratulations on your success.

      My advice if you're not doing this already, begin communicating with your networks more frequently that way they know you, what you do, and can expect volume from you. Not only will this put you at ease but hopefully they can help you go from $3k to $6k.
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  • Profile picture of the author PandoraMarketing
    If the traffic comes in very quickly then stops, that could raise some red flags. Networks may think that's a bot stuffing leads.
    My traffic is like that A LOT, as you know facebook is fast burst traffic so that statement is a bit 50/50 :p
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    • Profile picture of the author COPEAC Steve
      Originally Posted by PandoraMarketing View Post

      My traffic is like that A LOT, as you know facebook is fast burst traffic so that statement is a bit 50/50 :p
      Completely understand, all the more reason to reach out to the network and make them aware of what kind of traffic it is so there's no red flags raised. It'll put them at ease and hopefully it will make you sleep better knowing they wont come crying fraud
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  • Profile picture of the author justscrewit
    Well I just don't want to accrue a lot in commissions and networks consider them "fraudulent" I don't understand how if a customer puts in their credit card, say for a free trial, and they accept it, then turns back "fraudulent" why I should be penalized, because its happened before. A reversal of commission or whatever the network wants to call it. How does that happen if there was no chargeback or whatever? That's what I'm confused about. Like how if the system says the card matches the info the cc gives, can it be fraudulent? Copeac steve...does this happen a lot? You seem to know the most. Or if anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
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    • Profile picture of the author Matthew NY
      Originally Posted by justscrewit View Post

      Well I just don't want to accrue a lot in commissions and networks consider them "fraudulent" I don't understand how if a customer puts in their credit card, say for a free trial, and they accept it, then turns back "fraudulent" why I should be penalized, because its happened before. A reversal of commission or whatever the network wants to call it. How does that happen if there was no chargeback or whatever? That's what I'm confused about. Like how if the system says the card matches the info the cc gives, can it be fraudulent? Copeac steve...does this happen a lot? You seem to know the most. Or if anyone can help it'd be greatly appreciated
      I understand what you're saying and that's a really good point. I never thought too much into it, but as far as I can see, you have to have trust that your traffic is coming from quality locations and not places that would be flagging your leads as fraudulent uses.

      For example, if you promote your product on a black-hat marketing forum ad, don't be surprised if people are putting in fraudulent information.

      If you are advertising using ethical methods, and using reputable media, the chances of you getting that bad seed is much lower. I have never personally had that issue before, and that's probably why I haven't thought much about the point you bring up.

      I think, as long as you use the traditional means of promotion, i.e., article writing, social networking, respectable media buys, etc., a factor like that should be the least of your worries.
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  • Profile picture of the author PandoraMarketing
    Stev, no worries, i'm very close to my managers lol usually connected to network managers also as i do high $xxxx a week, just trying to help the newer guys

    Justscrewit - You will suprised how much fraud is out there, there are lots of people/affiliates who will use stolen credit cards, false information and more. The "real" customer or owner of that credit card will in the end file a dispute as they did not make the transaction, therefore the network reversing. FRAUD is a network killer, iv'e seen many get hurt by it and iv'e seen many shut up shop because of it!
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I think they start asking that question as soon as you start asking yourself that question.
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  • Profile picture of the author PandoraMarketing
    @PPC-Coach - I have to agree there, if you have any doubts yourself then 90% of the time your obviously doing something slightly fishy. Be very transparent, honesty is the best policy. The AM's are not enemies and want you earning as much as you do
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  • Profile picture of the author justscrewit
    I don't agree. Cause when I spend hard earned money from my 9-5 job in order to make a little extra income, but I'm at the risk of seeing commissions reversed, I want to do all I can to prevent that. And since its happened before I thought id come on here and ask because the second I made over 1000 is when I started seeing my commissions reversed. Up until that time everything was just fine and dandy. So @ppc I start asking that question when I think the CPA network is up to something. Quite the opposite of what you are trying discreetly, and respectfully say.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by justscrewit View Post

    Is $3000 a month in commissions starting out as an affiliate look suspicious to places like CJ and Maxbounty? Or is that pretty low for an affiliate anyways?
    That does not look suspicious, many othe factors could though...
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  • Profile picture of the author PandoraMarketing
    @justscrewit, make sure you are transparent and in connection with your AM at all times, ask to check quality before you start putting lots of money into a profiting campaign!
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  • Profile picture of the author justscrewit
    well i buy traffic from a couple of different sources and its pretty expensive traffic because its geo and niche targeted, but i abide by all the rules, so i dont think its the type of traffic I drive in but when I look at my CJ account it says commission reversal and I know it is not because of traffic source or anything like that. My question is what can it be? because it accepts it then overturns it, and if it has anything to do with personal financial information of the lead, can they tell me that? ive only been doing this for about 3 months so thats why ive turned to this.
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  • Profile picture of the author cdroy
    Contact your AM mate, if your traffic is legitimate then I really don't know what the problem could be.

    It is really beneficial to have an open line of communication with your AM and keep in contact with him regularly so he knows who you are and is familiar with your account.
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