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PPC to CPA - need advice

by tyang
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Maybe I'm behind here but seems like you can no longer link your splash page to your CPA offer. My adwords site was just suspended because of Information Harvesting, Promoting Free Offers, etc..

Is there anyway to promote free offers on google adwords anymore? Any alternatives that work? I tried 7search to little success.

Is PPC to CPA dead? or can it still be done?
#advice #cpa #ppc
  • Profile picture of the author jekis4sv
    I tried ppc to cpa arbitration several times this year, and according to my experience it is dead.
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    • Profile picture of the author tyang
      Originally Posted by jekis4sv View Post

      I tried ppc to cpa arbitration several times this year, and according to my experience it is dead.
      It sucks, I was finally making some moolah and google decides to suspend me

      Trying out Yahoo/MSN and 7search to see if I can get a good ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author Omid
    If your landing page is like what Google Wants to see then it wouldn't be problem.

    Make sure that you have read the AdWords guideline before creating your landing page.

    ~ Omid
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    • Profile picture of the author tyang
      Originally Posted by Omid View Post

      If your landing page is like what Google Wants to see then it wouldn't be problem.

      Make sure that you have read the AdWords guideline before creating your landing page.

      ~ Omid
      True but what google wants is nearly impossible to do without any conflicting issues with their policies.
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      • Profile picture of the author jonhkh17
        It is hard to work with google adwords, it is really true and impossible for us to make money if we follow the guide line and policy. They want no out bound link or direct to different website. Basicly is no affiliate link at all on landing page.

        How ever all my ads disapproved by google adwords, and switched to Adcenter they approved with no problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author tyang
          Originally Posted by jonhkh17 View Post

          It is hard to work with google adwords, it is really true and impossible for us to make money if we follow the guide line and policy. They want no out bound link or direct to different website. Basicly is no affiliate link at all on landing page.

          How ever all my ads disapproved by google adwords, and switched to Adcenter they approved with no problem.
          Any luck with Adcenter as far as conversions go?
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          • Profile picture of the author jonhkh17
            Originally Posted by tyang View Post

            Any luck with Adcenter as far as conversions go?

            I did ok, I want to tell different between adword and adcenter. I run the same ads, and keyword, same day, I see 6 conversion from google, and only 2 from adcenter. I would say google got better traffic, but it hard to get your ads approved.

            Right now I'm no longer able to get my ads approved from google, which is slow down my entire income stream. I wished google still treat us right now same as 6-7 years ago.
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            • Profile picture of the author tyang
              Originally Posted by jonhkh17 View Post

              I did ok, I want to tell different between adword and adcenter. I run the same ads, and keyword, same day, I see 6 conversion from google, and only 2 from adcenter. I would say google got better traffic, but it hard to get your ads approved.

              Right now I'm no longer able to get my ads approved from google, which is slow down my entire income stream. I wished google still treat us right now same as 6-7 years ago.
              Your conversions arn't terrible I guess, got my first conversion today on 7search - spent 1.89 and made 2.00 for a whopping profit of .11

              CTR was about the same as google, but way fewer impressions.

              Waiting on Bing/Yahoo to approve me to test their conversions.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I love it when a traffic source is declared "dead" as it reduces my competition dramatically as the herd moves onto the next shiny object that is "alive"?

    It's not dead, but the rules have changed and if you do not adapt and give them what they want, you will be banned by them.

    So just give them what they want and be a bit creative in how you monetize your site. You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.

    It's a lot more work, but the result is the same or better. This girl will now go out with you again in the future and it will get to the point where a date is "implied" on a Saturday night. It could even lead to marriage where you do things together without even having to discuss every little detail because she knows you very well now and trusts you.

    Could you apply that to adwords? I can and have. If you can too, you won't be sorry.

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    • Profile picture of the author tyang
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      I love it when a traffic source is declared "dead" as it reduces my competition dramatically as the herd moves onto the next shiny object that is "alive"?

      It's not dead, but the rules have changed and if you do not adapt and give them what they want, you will be banned by them.

      So just give them what they want and be a bit creative in how you monetize your site. You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.

      It's a lot more work, but the result is the same or better. This girl will now go out with you again in the future and it will get to the point where a date is "implied" on a Saturday night. It could even lead to marriage where you do things together without even having to discuss every little detail because she knows you very well now and trusts you.

      Could you apply that to adwords? I can and have. If you can too, you won't be sorry.
      Great advice! I'm think of a new landing page style right now that might work, lol
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    • Profile picture of the author shockwave
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      You would never walk up to a girl in a bar and tell her she's going to sleep with you in 10 minutes would you? You've got to go through the romantic dance with her, flirt with her make small talk, get to know her a bit THEN only after a couple dates would you even have a chance at scoring.
      .....or...you could walk up to 100 girls in the bar and just point blank ask them if they wanted to sleep with you. I'm betting you could at least close 1%!
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      • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
        Originally Posted by shockwave View Post

        .....or...you could walk up to 100 girls in the bar and just point blank ask them if they wanted to sleep with you. I'm betting you could at least close 1%!
        Three questions:

        1.) Do you think any of the women would complain to security?

        2.) Do you think security would kick you out of the bar?

        3.) Would you really want to take the girl home who said yes?

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        • Profile picture of the author shockwave
          Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

          Three questions:

          1.) Do you think any of the women would complain to security?

          2.) Do you think security would kick you out of the bar?

          3.) Would you really want to take the girl home who said yes?
          1. Most likely.

          2. See answer above.

          3. Tough call. Guess that depends on how much we've both had to drink!
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Ppc is far from dead, you just need to try another ppc network aside google, like bing, 7search, etc

    What we as marketers need to understand is we need to be providing value to our visitors and where our visitors come from. If you can figure this riddle out you will make a ton f money
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    • Profile picture of the author tyang
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      Ppc is far from dead, you just need to try another ppc network aside google, like bing, 7search, etc

      What we as marketers need to understand is we need to be providing value to our visitors and where our visitors come from. If you can figure this riddle out you will make a ton f money
      7search is not looking good so far, is there any others that you would recommend?
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