Making *good* money with CPA?!

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I am with one of those networks (peerfly) where many of the zip/email submits "only" pay like $2 ish per conversion.

I am ranking #1 in Google for a "pretty good" keyword and conversions are also phenomenal compared to eg. clickbank or other offers.

Problem is...due to the relatively low payout of most of such submit offers i barely make $40/day (best day so far close to $50).

Let's say an offer converts at 20% (which is already excellent), i need 20 conversions for $40..which is 100 clicks (20 of them convert).

Taking into account that a portion of people might not even click at all landing on the page...we can take 180-200 daily visitors as an average...which is roughly 6000 searches a month for a keyword.

Just saying i have a hard time making "good" money EVEN with #1 google position...makes me wonder how people make many thousands per month with CPA....
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  • Profile picture of the author jeffrey73
    $40 a day is excellent earnings for an SEO'd website focused on "1 keyword phrase". Now just expand by targeting other related phrases, get them ranked, and see which ones bring you even MORE conversions!

    Any website that brings in $1k per month from SEO should easily be considered a winner, and you are doing something right.
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  • Profile picture of the author IamTJM
    I'd say $40 per day on one site is pretty good especially if it's coming from a high ranked website and it is passive income. Building multiple sites that rank highly is the key if that is the approach you want to take. If you have ten sites similar to the one you already have then that is $400 per day of passive income.
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  • Profile picture of the author aminur
    yeah $40 is very very good my friend. You can not expect too make too much from email and zip submits because of the small pay out. The best tips i can give you is start creating few more blogs and which can earn you more $40 days. This way you will have multiple income flow. Add them together you will be in love.
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  • Profile picture of the author PRBandit
    People who make THOUSANDS of dollars use paid traffic. They know how to maximize their ROI and profit.

    They might spend 5000 on advertising and make $7000 in CPA. Which looks great, but is still $2000 profit.
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    • Profile picture of the author sam m
      I am surprise nobody mention that try putting another related product preferably your own if this is a niche whee you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author browie
    The reason they are making a lot more than you is paid traffic.

    Your #1 SEO ranking is doing awesome.

    BTW - let's see your PeerFly Proof - PeerFly Earnings Proof - Prove PeerFly Earnings
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  • Profile picture of the author cardine
    There is a very big difference between a "pretty good" keyword and a "very good" keyword.

    If you are going after "pretty good" keywords you need to go after lots and lots of them. I know people who build a new site everyday to rank for as many of those "pretty good" keywords (or they build one very big/broad site and build a new deep page each day for a new keyword).

    I remember somebody telling me with SEO, never stop building new pages/sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samrath Gupta
    First of all Congrats Man !!

    You are already making enough which others are still trying to achieve

    I will suggest you to create 2-3 websites more with different keywords and build them according to the first one but with different offers !

    You will increase your earnings this way

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    ~Sam~
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  • Profile picture of the author Adam Struve
    People making *good* money don't just have 1 successful method, they have several running at the same time.
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  • Profile picture of the author Naveen K
    $40/day with one site and that too with 20% conversion rate is very nice achievement mate. I would suggest you to replicate same with building more sites.
    All the Best.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerhyip
    Nice work man, open more sites, take another niche, and u will be earning more then $100 daily.. People having like 500 clicks daily with about 50-100 leads.. u can achive that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Wilson
    That math is usually exaggerated. $40 a day is awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author raymer111
    yea man, 40 bucks a day is fantastic! thats $1200 a month on average.. do this with 9 other websites and you got yourself $12000 a month. its all about duplication with CPA.. once you find something that works duplicate it as many times as you can!
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  • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
    $40 a day profit I assume?

    I have to be honest, when it comes to SEO on a CPA, not the biggest expert. While my publication is doing amazing when it comes to SEO, on the CPA side I made most of my money on display.

    I like the SEO for CPA because it can be reoccurring income with little overhead. Now that's cool.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymakerhyip
    Man, $40 daily is awesomme.. open another webpage, or better facebook fanpage and go viral.. u will be making $100 daily minimum
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  • Profile picture of the author raymer111
    is all your traffic organic or are you using adwords?
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    • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
      Originally Posted by raymer111 View Post

      is all your traffic organic or are you using adwords?
      All organic. I had adwords running for a few days to another offer, similar page...but didnt make a sale so i stopped Adwords.

      I guess the best (obvious...) idea is just to make more pages with similar products and then target similar offers.

      Yesterday i made $50 and had a 30% CR rate...which is a crazy high CR in my opinion. So yeah, will look at more offers and try to rank those pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author write27
    What I wouldn't give to make $40/day!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanmckinney
    Look for offers with higher pay out. There are many offers where the trial is free for the user, but you can still bank like $25-40 per conversion.

    offervault.com - start there.

    It seems you got the SEO down, now just pick another one.. and do it to it.

    2 sites @ 40/day = $80/day * 30 days = $2400 a month? .. 4 of those sites? 10?

    Keep working it.

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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

    Problem is...due to the relatively low payout of most of such submit offers i barely make $40/day .Just saying i have a hard time making "good" money EVEN with #1 google position...
    THERE YA GO!!!

    What I been saying the last what, 3 years??? ZIP and EMAIL submits just wont make you rich, the problem is you dont get paid much as the margins are too low.

    Here's the solution: If you can rank well and get decent traffic via PPC, focus ENTIRELY on high paying offers that DONT (!) require the customer to fill in their credit card details. I'm talking insurance quotes, debt management enquiries and loan applications. I get up to $90 freakin bucks for a simple name and phone number from brokers.

    THAT's how you make "good" money. Finally someone proving my points!

    Any questions just let me know,
    Nick
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonWestwick
    From here it is a case of scaling up.

    You can add additional products to your website, split test different offer, rank for additional keywords or even create multiple sites for other products.

    You now have a blueprint for a money making website, you can tweak your existing site to increase earnings and replicate this formula in other niches.

    10 sites is $400 a day in passive income.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fery Tyo
    Yes, peerfly to date is a good money maker site. But it's rather difficult to apply.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I'm talking insurance quotes, debt management enquiries and loan applications. I get up to $90 freakin bucks for a simple name and phone number from brokers.
    Are those offers to be found on the usual networks and sites like offervault...or do you circumvent CPA networks altogether? $90 for a simple name and number is awesome..to say the least.
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    • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Are those offers to be found on the usual networks and sites like offervault...or do you circumvent CPA networks altogether? $90 for a simple name and number is awesome..to say the least.
      You wont find them on the american networks. I concentrate on the UK and I'm hooked up with some private networks that focus entirely on finance etc. That's how I make my money these days anyway ... lead generation. Its also the reason I quit my silly banking job which I hated years ago.

      Drop me a PM I'll hook you up if you want, doesn't cost nothing.

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      • Profile picture of the author Riccc
        Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

        You wont find them on the american networks. I concentrate on the UK and I'm hooked up with some private networks that focus entirely on finance etc. That's how I make my money these days anyway ... lead generation. Its also the reason I quit my silly banking job which I hated years ago.

        Drop me a PM I'll hook you up if you want, doesn't cost nothing.

        Nick
        I m interesting to know this method
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      • Profile picture of the author zena lour
        Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

        You wont find them on the american networks. I concentrate on the UK and I'm hooked up with some private networks that focus entirely on finance etc. That's how I make my money these days anyway ... lead generation. Its also the reason I quit my silly banking job which I hated years ago.

        Drop me a PM I'll hook you up if you want, doesn't cost nothing.

        Nick
        Hi Nick,
        what kind of private network do you mean?
        I don't understand are they not all cpa networks.

        sorry for these questions I'm pretty new to cpa

        Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author picasso1011
    I wish I have that problem..may of us dont even make $1 a day!!
    you are lucky my friend!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    People aren't making thousands per day with simple submits...most people are doing mid to high payout offers.

    Also, $40/day is just one keyword. Have 5,000 keywords running at any one time and the keywords doing just $1/day add up!
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  • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
    Honestly, I play around with email submits mainly for articles but I mainly manage CPA campaigns that start at $20-$100 CPA. Why? Because when there are conversions, the revenue is ridiculous. I just started a incentive based CPA campaign that is doing $2k/day profit...
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  • Profile picture of the author Kelvin12
    I know someone who makes $121k/mo with one offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I haven't read good things about 7search..and 3% with SUCH a cheap trick...uhmmm. Does anyone use this with success?

    I mean...the guy in the above link said "i spent THOUSANDS [testing] on each ad"...promoting some $1.50 gift card submit offer. Scuse me? And then he uses some really cheap "trick" in the ad to get attention for getting 3% CTR. Doesnt really convince me.
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    • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
      All attention getting devices are "cheap tricks" from flashing banners (which used to be big) to putting extra characters.

      The guy in the above link is me I'm not selling anything, so there is no "trick" here except my own experience. Was an idea I had in the middle of the night while playing MW BlackOps and saw someone with weird characters in their handle.. how about using weird characters all over a text ad.

      I'm not suggesting you are going to be come a millionaire on this stuff, or "believe" me. It costs very little to test the idea however and play with it.

      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      I haven't read good things about 7search..and 3% with SUCH a cheap trick...uhmmm. Does anyone use this with success?

      I mean...the guy in the above link said "i spent THOUSANDS [testing] on each ad"...promoting some $1.50 gift card submit offer. Scuse me? And then he uses some really cheap "trick" in the ad to get attention for getting 3% CTR. Doesnt really convince me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by pacelattin View Post

        All attention getting devices are "cheap tricks" from flashing banners (which used to be big) to putting extra characters.

        The guy in the above link is me I'm not selling anything, so there is no "trick" here except my own experience. Was an idea I had in the middle of the night while playing MW BlackOps and saw someone with weird characters in their handle.. how about using weird characters all over a text ad.

        I'm not suggesting you are going to be come a millionaire on this stuff, or "believe" me. It costs very little to test the idea however and play with it.


        I don't see anything cheap about attention grabbing devices. Deception is cheap but the first pillar of marketing is getting a prospects attention.
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        • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
          You must be reading another article, it's about using text characters to get attention.

          Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

          I don't see anything cheap about attention grabbing devices. Deception is cheap but the first pillar of marketing is getting a prospects attention.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Hey maybe i am getting some ideas why i am playing BF3? Just kidding.
    I would have to test 7Search tho. It's just that i didnt hear too much good about it in terms of traffic volume and quality...
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  • Profile picture of the author BezVrska
    $40 per day is excellent. Try to optimize the website for more keywords = more money
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    $40/day is very good from one site. A few questions if you don't mind.

    Does your site have multiple offers or does that revenue just come from one offer?

    How long did it take you to reach #1 for that keyword?

    Does your site have a lot of content or is it rather thin on the content front?
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