Is PPV marketing dead ?

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Francisco78

hey guys,

I remember the good ol days when PPV Marketing was hot, but I was wondering is it still profitable? :confused:

What do you think? Is it still a good profitable method for CPA offers?

Frank

I thought affiliate marketing is dead?

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chall vandenbergh 14 years ago

both are still very alive ppv and affiliate its just 100 times harder than the good old days because way more people are doing it
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shmerns

14 years ago

It's absolutely still profitable if done correctly, but that is the key here. I always love that when others methods of advertising become hot (like facebook marketing), that PPV and others fall to the wayside, because for those still using them there is less competition.

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Samrath Gupta

14 years ago

In my view every marketing strategy works best if you know how to use it..

In the case of PPV, In my view its quite risky since many people close the popup window instantly and that gets counted as a click...

Better contact LUKE the AM of peerfly... he is a pro of PPV marketing

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silverace

14 years ago

ppv is still rocking! no quality scores to deal with, no though approval teams etc.

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Royce Space

14 years ago

Originally Posted by Francisco78

hey guys,

I remember the good ol days when PPV Marketing was hot, but I was wondering is it still profitable? :confused:

What do you think? Is it still a good profitable method for CPA offers?

Frank

No, it's not dead and never will be.

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Jetmir

14 years ago

It's not dead. In fact, it can be quite profitable if you know how to use it. The opposite, if you have no clue what you're doing you can lose your shirt.

So, be careful. Learn a lot about before using it.

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jeffrey73 14 years ago

DirectCPV should be pretty close to dead, IMO. But PPV ( CPV ) Marketing will most likely NEVER die.
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- Anthony Phillips 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jeffrey73
  
  DirectCPV should be pretty close to dead, IMO. But PPV ( CPV ) Marketing will most likely NEVER die.
  
  What's going on with DirectCPV? I can't see how a CPV provider would just die unless their userbase suddenly uninstalled/or ran ccleaner in mass.
  
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- jeffreys 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jeffrey73
  
  DirectCPV should be pretty close to dead, IMO. But PPV ( CPV ) Marketing will most likely NEVER die.
  
  Are you sure DirectCPV is dead? Anybody agrees with this. What about leadimpact?
  
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  MTVida 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by jeffreys
  
  Are you sure DirectCPV is dead? Anybody agrees with this. What about leadimpact?
  
  I'm relatively new to PPV, and I've used both DirectCPV and LI. I spent $100 on Direct CPV without a single conversion. The first $100 I spent on LI, I was able to make about $50 back.
  
  I was having a chat with an AM of mine who's a real PPV wiz, and he was advising that I stay away from Direct CPV, saying that their traffic quality had fallen a lot lately.
  
  If Direct CPV can't deliver quality traffic that converts, advertisers are going to pull out and their revenue will dry up.
  
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mtmjohn

14 years ago

There are still loads of money to be made in PPV. Long live PPV

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Francisco78 14 years ago

hey guys , thanks for your kind response, I ll be using PPV
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- PPV Affiliate 14 years ago
  
  No traffic source is 'dead'. For every person that tells you a traffic source is dead, there are plenty of affiliates laughing all the way to the bank.
  
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  Francisco78 14 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by PPV Affiliate
  
  No traffic source is 'dead'. For every person that tells you a traffic source is dead, there are plenty of affiliates laughing all the way to the bank.
  
  True ! , thanks , I ll start with PPV
  
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PPC-Coach

14 years ago

Traffic sources always die.

Methods get outdated.

Without new gimmicks and tricks internet marketing would die tomorrow.

If you believe any of that, I've got a bridge to sell you in Jersey too.

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Andrew Zapp

14 years ago

100% it's still profitable. I'm profiting from it right now. There is never a traffic source that is dead. I wouldn't put too much thought in to whoever told you that.

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jordanberg2311

14 years ago

Yes PPV is dead. People that I know can only bank up to $5000/day

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Francisco78 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jordanberg2311

Yes PPV is dead. People that I know can only bank up to $5000/day

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LOL !!!!!!!! hahahaha yes it is NOT dead, people are making a killing! 5k a day? man I just can hear KA-CHING !
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jeffreys 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jordanberg2311

Yes PPV is dead. People that I know can only bank up to $5000/day

:p

A good one. Are you making a killing with ppv?
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CPANetDirectory

14 years ago

In almost all cases, if you hear someone saying that a particular method is dead, it's because it wasn't working for them!
I'm sure at some point over the last year pretty much every single traffic source has appeared in a blog post or a forum thread as being declared "dead", only to be proven wrong by the evidence of publishers who are still making a killing using that method.

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perfectlovehere

14 years ago

I think it is still profitable but you can also lose a lot of money.

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vendor

14 years ago

It's not dead but well on it's way in being heavily regulated.
just look what happened to Copeac after they got sued along with thier affiliates for **** barry products.

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PPV Affiliate

14 years ago

Originally Posted by vendor

It's not dead but well on it's way in being heavily regulated.
just look what happened to Copeac after they got sued along with thier affiliates for **** barry products.

Those 2 aren't in any way related to each other.

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jeffrey73

14 years ago

Other shady rebills may be soon "under fire", but this has nothing to do with the regulation of PPV as a traffic source.

Originally Posted by vendor

It's not dead but well on it's way in being heavily regulated.
just look what happened to Copeac after they got sued along with thier affiliates for **** barry products.

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slackoff

14 years ago

If you have to ask this question than you're not testing enough or at all! =)

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CourageIncorporated

14 years ago

Okay...not dead -- got it.

So for those of us who've never used it, don't want to lose our shirt, and are not interested in buying PPC Coach's bridge in New Jersey, what are some other GOOD ways of learning about PPV? I need my shirt. I can't get arrested again.*

Per Samrath's suggestion, I've just applied to PeerFly to ask Luke how to do it, but I'm like 189587392th in line to be approved. Any other suggestions?

*I've never been arrested.

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slackoff

14 years ago

That's a tough one considering paid advertising requires almost always for you to test with real money. If you already have a website/product that you know works with other traffic sources, such as seo, try modifying that website/product for PPV traffic and test that way. At least this way it may help minimize some risk. TBH you gotta spend money to test and to learn with these sources. There's absolutely no way around it. Just test with a smaller budget and in less competitive niches.

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CourageIncorporated

14 years ago

Hey Slackoff -- thanks for the reply.

I totally understand the need to test with real money -- I don't have a problem with that.

I was just asking the best way to learn about PPV. Got any suggestions?

B.

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jeffrey73 14 years ago

Check PPVAffiliate's signature.

Originally Posted by CourageIncorporated

I was just asking the best way to learn about PPV. Got any suggestions?

B.
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mtmjohn

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CourageIncorporated

Hey Slackoff -- thanks for the reply.

I totally understand the need to test with real money -- I don't have a problem with that.

I was just asking the best way to learn about PPV. Got any suggestions?

B.

You can learn a lot about PPV from this forum (its a paid private forum):

http://www.affplaybook.com/

Best of luck!

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richard_s_smith

14 years ago

Originally Posted by CourageIncorporated

Hey Slackoff -- thanks for the reply.

I totally understand the need to test with real money -- I don't have a problem with that.

I was just asking the best way to learn about PPV. Got any suggestions?

B.

ditto on cpvden, sixmonthsfromtoday (will and chad) has good stuff on ppv, lukepeerfly, get on the mailing list on all the above for good free info

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14 years ago

cpvden.com works too...

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outwest

14 years ago

**** berry has absolutely nothing to do with the methods of PPV
it has to do with false claims by vendors that would get you in trouble no matter if you hawked it on a street corner or sold it door to door

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

With PPV you can make good money reason traffic is dirt cheap , But you need to be creative and know your demographics , what mistake most of newbies do make is they just create a lander and harvest some urls and boom launch campaign that is a wrong way you should do some research on your targeted demographics .... and do testing and after that scale your campaigns and that's where you make money . most of newbies instead of scaling campaigns stop promoting offers why ? because their ROI is not good. To achieve good ROI you need to scale up your campaigns. In testing phase everyone loose money.Real money comes in your pockets when you scale up your campaigns.

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by speedylikesKJ

With PPV you can make good money reason traffic is dirt cheap , But you need to be creative and know your demographics , what mistake most of newbies do make is they just create a lander and harvest some urls and boom launch campaign that is a wrong way you should do some research on your targeted demographics .... and do testing and after that scale your campaigns and that's where you make money . most of newbies instead of scaling campaigns stop promoting offers why ? because their ROI is not good. To achieve good ROI you need to scale up your campaigns. In testing phase everyone loose money.Real money comes in your pockets when you scale up your campaigns.

Can you make money with directcpv? Are they worth the time?

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speedylikesKJ 14 years ago

Originally Posted by jeffreys

Can you make money with directcpv? Are they worth the time?

They are no more good
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14 years ago

Originally Posted by speedylikesKJ

With PPV you can make good money reason traffic is dirt cheap , But you need to be creative and know your demographics , what mistake most of newbies do make is they just create a lander and harvest some urls and boom launch campaign that is a wrong way you should do some research on your targeted demographics .... and do testing and after that scale your campaigns and that's where you make money . most of newbies instead of scaling campaigns stop promoting offers why ? because their ROI is not good. To achieve good ROI you need to scale up your campaigns. In testing phase everyone loose money.Real money comes in your pockets when you scale up your campaigns.

I have 5 ppv campaigns running with between 65% to 85% Ctr over circa 500 clicks per campaign using my own lander. Not one conversion!
lander and targets and demographics and offer all in line.. any ideas anyone??

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speedylikesKJ

14 years ago

Originally Posted by sandford

I have 5 ppv campaigns running with between 65% to 85% Ctr over circa 500 clicks per campaign using my own lander. Not one conversion!
lander and targets and demographics and offer all in line.. any ideas anyone??

Tried rotating offers ?

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14 years ago

Originally Posted by sandford

I have 5 ppv campaigns running with between 65% to 85% Ctr over circa 500 clicks per campaign using my own lander. Not one conversion!
lander and targets and demographics and offer all in line.. any ideas anyone??

65% to 85% CTR?!? Those are some pretty wild numbers for LI... I normally consider 10% CTR to be performing pretty well. I'd be interested to know how you're getting those numbers.

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14 years ago

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PPC-Coach

14 years ago

Each CPV network works best with different types of offers because of their demographics.

Direct CPV is not dead, people just don't advertise the right offers on it.

Don't believe everything you hear on a free forum.

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jeffreys

14 years ago

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Each CPV network works best with different types of offers because of their demographics.

Direct CPV is not dead, people just don't advertise the right offers on it.

Don't believe everything you hear on a free forum.

Hi,

What kind of offers work best with direct cpv since you say them are not dead?

Please advise or you can pm me.

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Adevictus

14 years ago

I found myself asking the same question until I finally hit my first profitable campaign.
As someone who is just beginning to dabble into PPV I found myself facing a bunch of frustrations.

I had spent roughly $350 on PPV traffic before seeing my first conversion. It was a real effort to get into the groove of things. I finally struck a profitable campaign with roughly 400% ROI netting about $400-$600 daily. It was profitable for about 3 days until I had dozens of competitors spring out of nowhere, rip my campaign and bid me under.

I guess it works but it is pretty unforgiving on people who are new to the traffic source.

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MIgartua

14 years ago

I've managed to create a couple profitable campaigns lately with Amazon and AdFly (link below).

The advantage of sending traffic to a cool gadget on Amazon rather than a CPA offer is that if the person isn't interested in the gadget, chances are they're still going to surf around on Amazon and end up buying something else and you still make commissions. With CPA offers on the other hand, if they're not interested in your offer, they're gone.

Amazon has insanely so much stuff that almost everyone who lands there sees something they want.

Hope this tip helps. Blessings :-)

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slurpeeman 14 years ago

i used PPV is my primary traffic.
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JayWiz

14 years ago

Obviously not dead, check some people on affbuzz still makes killing using PPV, facebook, POF, media buying, and many more. The key is tracking, good tracking software and testing lots of offers using rotating offer script.

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Mr Lim

14 years ago

Don't have any suggestion with PPV. :S
Perhaps competition are rising each day.

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speedylikesKJ 14 years ago

Originally Posted by Mr Lim

Don't have any suggestion with PPV. :S
Perhaps competition are rising each day.

On PPV personally i haven`t seen much competition and it is very easy to get started Reason is that there are no limitations like other traffic resources etc you can target any website on internet you want and , how many websites are there on internet ? endless so there are more and more opportunities. Lets say in adwords we do have limited keywords make it 1000, 2000 but in ppv we do have endless websites to target ..

About Suggestions Test Test Test never lose data you collected (because it is something through which you will have to build a profitable campaign .
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Chronic IM

14 years ago

Hello!

It's still really useful and you can still earn from them but you really have to take time and insert more effort. You have to use your skill and be very patient. Just be sure to always think positive and be creative.

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brandonthomas

Banned 14 years ago

I don't agree Pay Per View Marketing is dead. In my opinion it is one of the best ways to drive customers to your website.

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14 years ago

PPV traffic is huge, you just need to stay ahead of the competition! Find a unique "angle" and reap in the rewards.

To answer the Question, Absolutely not, is PPV marketing dead. (@ least not for myself or any of my associates)

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Cash37

14 years ago

It certainly isn't dead, and you certainly dont need to join any paid forum to learn "what is working now." Grab your credit card, grab your balls, and find out for yourself.

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LolMonies

14 years ago

PPV marketing IS dead. But then again so is affiliate marketing.
"Long live Affiliate marketing"

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getlandersgetpaid 13 years ago

PPV only works whilst standing by the grey stone when the thrush knocks, and the setting sun with the last light of Durin's Day will shine upon the conversion.
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Daniel Thomas

13 years ago

You mean people all over the world wish it was dead

?

I think that with Re-Marketing or Re-Targeting, it has value, perhaps it's beginning to be more and more about that.

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PPC-Coach

13 years ago

If you think about it, PPV is really just a form of media buying. You're buying pops on sites instead of banners on them. Anyway, it's not dead, but the guys I know making the most are doing two things:

1.) They're cloaking traffic vance.

2.) They have auto bidders for the bidding wars.

It's a very "hands on" way to market but does work if you put the work into it. (Like everything else).

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Donimo

13 years ago

Yes!!! PVP is completely dead, and everyone should stop using it!!

(less competition, more profit for me)

Only joking... If anyone actually thinks pvp is dead, and then clearly they are the ones doing it wrong. The exact same goes for absolutely every traffic method out there. There is pretty much no traffic method that can be classed as dead, as there is almost always loads of people still making money using it.

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ChrisBa

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Donimo

Yes!!! PVP is completely dead, and everyone should stop using it!!

(less competition, more profit for me)

Only joking... If anyone actually thinks pvp is dead, and then clearly they are the ones doing it wrong. The exact same goes for absolutely every traffic method out there. There is pretty much no traffic method that can be classed as dead, as there is almost always loads of people still making money using it.

Lol, this was my thought as well

Ppv isn't the huge cash cow that it used to be, but it's still very profitable IMO

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kotakia1

13 years ago

Purchased the software (Before I was thru the bullet points) Downloaded installed activated and BAM!!! nothing....It just sits there looking stupid LOL I was wondering if it matters what browser you have to use and what OS you have to use. Thank you in advance

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MTVida

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kotakia1

Purchased the software (Before I was thru the bullet points) Downloaded installed activated and BAM!!! nothing....It just sits there looking stupid LOL I was wondering if it matters what browser you have to use and what OS you have to use. Thank you in advance

Gene Wheeler
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A member since 2009?? And the first post you make is something so off the wall I can't even make any sense of it... What have you been doing here for the past four years?

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Moneymaker2012

13 years ago

I see these type of questions around, and i really don't agree to it.
Others are making good from PPV, so If you can't make money with it so why blame PPV?

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maxpane

12 years ago

Does anyone know about the current condition about PPV marketing. I was thinking to start PPV marketing but before that I need to know about the current condition of PPV Market. Can anyone let me know. Thanks