cpa sucks

hey Mikerosoft
What's wrong? I know just how difficult it can be to keep on moving without any ray of hope but trust me once you have overcome your difficulty, the view from the top is amazing
Need any help? I will be glad to do so and I also noticed your post count is very less. You must keep asking plenty of questions so that you begin to learn

What makes you think that? How long have you been trying this?

If you want to quit, go ahead, because nobody will stop it but yourself... I've seen a guy on this forum that spent like 1000$ on products, tools, etc. and he still didn't made 1 cent! He didn't quit, and I think latter on he had his first sale on click bank or whatever. RESEARCH about it first! Than you take action. Look for case studies, tips, tricks, ask for help etc. on how you are going to promote your offers and then just take action.

Even experienced marketers in CPA......lose money 9 times out of 10. They expect to, its part of the game. As they learn more and tweak and test, they lose less and less then break even on campaigns, then they add and subtract target urls etc , then they turn a profit. Thats how the game is played.
Do you see somewhere a guarantee, spend money , and you make X amount ?

My friend once said "The only reasson to fail in Internet Marketing is leaving too early".

I wouldn't give up, $200 is not a lot of money to lose in this game. iv'e lost a lot more then that. but once you get it right it all gets better.

steve

Nothing in return? Not even $5? What offer(s) were you promoting and what traffic platform were you using?

CPA does not suck. I make most of my money from it

Bro, your mindset is backwards.

CPA clearly doesn't suck, and of course there are people that make money on it. Sure, you lost 200 bucks, and that may suck, but hopefully you can learn from it, improve, and hopefully come out better next time.

Making it online is more of a mental endurance marathon anyway.

Look....cut the crap and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

Wanna know why Allen calls this the WARRIOR Forum.

I've been a Full time Internet Marketer for 11 years now.

I've lost WAYYYY more than a couple hundred bucks.

Theres value in losing money if you open your eyes.

Heres what just happened to you......

You learned What NOT to do.

Guess what....my goal with ANY Paid Advertising I ever run is to....
FAIL FAST.

It comes down to 3 Stupid principles....

-Fail Fast
-Gain Data
-Optimize (Separate the Wheat from the Chaff)

You can do this .....I promise you.

Now....go back to your affiliate manager(s) and ask them to give you
at least 10 email submits that are Killing it with PPC.

Then I want you to read my post ... http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...our-bi-ch.html

By the way...the post applies to any type of paid PPC advertising...not just 7Search.

Bottom line.....TOUGHEN UP.....keep putting up campaigns and pay CLOSE attention to the results.

Thats where the GOLD lies....in the DATA.

-Fail Fast
-Gain Data
-Optimize (Separate the Wheat from the Chaff)

I won't apologize for being hard on you......this is not for the faint of heart.

This sh*t is for WARRIORS.

You CAN do this stuff. There is no doubt.

Wish you the best.

$200? That wouldn't even be tuition for one college course. Think of the $200 you lost as tuition on your CPA101 course.

Everything backs out to a CPA that isnt branding.

What kind of traffic are you driving? CPA might just be the wrong fit for your traffic and content. Matching traffic and content to the right mon method is the difference between making a fortune and making next to nothing.

CPA is a great business model, but it's definitely not a money making machine where you put $200 and get $500 back.

$200 isn't everything you need to build a successful business, knowledge, effort, mindset, etc are a few other things that are very important for an internet marketer to be successful.


W

Never give up, buddy!

good one Yao

If you don't have money to invest into your education and learning to buy traffic I'd start with SEO. To have success with paying for media you need to have some sort of an on going budget to test and learn.

This isn't a get rich quick game. There's millions to be made but you need to put in the work and invest in your education.

I'm sorry, but I have to agree that CPA does suck. Forget the money you can make, from what I have seen, how can anyone feel good promoting such garbage? Everything I have seen on CPA is never ending worthless questions about stupid stuff, and endless advertisements. The whole thing to me feels like a fraud. I got this opinion from signing up for 2 different CPA networks, getting accepted, then going through the offers. I'm sure there are a small few out there that are not as bad, but the vast majority are pure GARBAGE!

It's def not for everyone..you spent $200 but how much time did you put into it? it takes time to make anything work, any business model anywhere in the world and $200 is really not all that much.

I am feeling exactly the same way as the OP today. I keep trying campaigns that are failing. See my thread:
http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...ml#post5958312

Although I know success is just around the corner, but I wish I knew the best way to start making money. There are so many different methods people are using, I can't figure out which is the fastest way to profits....content blocking or not, ppc or ppv, $3 leads or $8 leads or $20 leads or $40 sales, squeeze page or not, direct linking to affiliate site etc.

Don't give up Cpa does not suck I started on facebook making $$ and making fanpages about hobby's i like and sports i like and started making money $$$ with my fanpages that I i know make a full time living. Don't quit just keep trying. You need to gather the right info then put into action. And stick with it.

CPA does not suck, I myself make decent change with it. I have seen people generate $40K + with CPA, recently. If you know what you are doing it can generate huge cash.

Myself, I am currently only making around $20 a day with CPAlead, but I have plans on increasing that to over $100 here soon. CPAlead is awesome, but I am contemplating switching my traffic around to other networks though to test rates, anybody with a suggestion? I am new to these networks, but so far this has been all I needed.

I guess you must move on and increase your spirit to be a success affiliater on CPA. Don't give up dude

CPA is not crap. Start afresh.
start in the motivation subsection.
Then read this very subsection.
You will attain incredible insight into how to make money online with CPA.

failure is feedback

I agree that one should never give up. You always need to give it your best, and never stop until you accomplish your goals.

My first go at internet marketing I made 6 sales of a $37 product but spent $1800 in advertising, you do the math..... I was destroyed!. That was over 6 years ago, I didnt know it at the time but looking back.... it was the best money I ever spent and the best lesson I ever learned!

And by the way there were a bunch of failures after that one as well....

Don't quit or you'll end up like the guy on the bottom! STAY HUNGRY!

$200 is Nothing, when you looking to make $1000s

Anyway Never Give Up, Look in the right way, do the right Thing.

I am also testing water,alghough the results is dim,but I will climb,and continue,until I reach the top of the mountain.!!!

Don't go with PPC that will make you beggar. Do SEO and success.

Did you promote the right offer?

Not all offers convert bro.

IMHO, you would have to be real lucky to find a long term converting CPA campaign (if we're talking about high payout offers) with just $200.

Come on. What kinda business can you start with $200? Step up and try pooling a budget of $1000 instead, bare minimum.

I know it seems rough. But you are just getting started. Any business has growing pains. Don't give up. Just try something different.

There are so many people on here that are looking to help you out! Can you imagine. All it took was 1 post (your first) and all these people want to help you and tell you their life stories.

Sadly, I do not think you have returned since you posted this

So with PPC CPA, apparently you have to waste thousands of dollars just to make a penny? That doesn't sound like a good business model to me. A good business model is something that requires as little investment as possible to make a profit. PPC seems too much like blind tweaking of knobs while you cross your fingers and hope something works... when the chances of it working are always stacked against you.

I just don't see that as a "good" business model.

Another thing about email submits I've never understood. You guys are saying they can tell by the fact that those email submits didn't result in "buys". Let me ask a stupid question, an email submit (most the ones I've seen) are promotions like "win a free ipad" or "win a free cheesecake factory card" etc etc.

So let me get this straight, untill a person decides to go buy an ipod... (when thats not even what they're promoting they're promoting for you to win an ipod) you don't make any money? Thats pretty stupid and that alone would bug me out about email offers. These offers never appear to be selling anything. They also appear like they would attract people in droves who are looking for free stuff. So again, where is the whole buying behavoir happening with these email submits?

WHEN are people actually buying something? I understand in higher converting offers like insurance or dating or teethwhitening, an actual PRODUCT is being advertised. But with email submits, you should get paid for getting an email because NOTHING is being sold. Emails ARE worth money, the fact so many of these networks will take countless emails, and not pay you, I say eff them.
I tried running email submits a long time ago, got like 200 views advertising on forums, and not single penny made from it. These weren't friends, they were normal people. If that CPA company is waiting for these people to stop entering their competitions (that they are ADVERTISING) so they can go buy a "free" ipad, that honestly makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Maybe I'm missing something, but to a degree email submits DO sound like a scam. Also considering how the email submits work, they keep bombarding you with offers you're not interested in, that are different from the original, so really, I don't see almost anyway in hell how you can make money with email submits.

Number 1, theres nothing to buy.
Number 2, they keep changing the offer, (like all CPA offers seem to do) to different things, hoping to get a bite, when it really just pisses people off.

I think about myself filling out CPA offers before I even learned people were making money off them. There was NEVER A SINGLE OFFER I was able to complete begining to end, its just neverending popups & at the time, anytime I did a survey, I thought I was triggering a virus due to all the popups.

I think the entire industry of CPA needs a serious reinventing. The way a lot of products are marketed is terrible, over promising always underdelivering. Always trying to get "free trials" out in order to get someones credit card number, then charge them 3 days later for a second trial they don't realize they even agreed to.

Really, the people who run these CPA networks are roaches imo, scavengers looking to suck every last drop of blood they can from people. "Get your free teeth whitening trial" just pay shipping and its "FREE" lol. Then a few days later your free trial arrives, and someone hits your credit card up for $90.

Thats why I've never felt like these networks deserve anything less than **** quality traffic. Who cares if its fake. Who cares if an account gets banned 5,000 times. I love how people are always trying to promote the idea of "being honest" when the networks themselves are ran on the most abhorrent form of greed that exists. Out right tricking people into paying for the shipping of free trials, telling people they can win 1 thing, then after they input their email, you tell them they can only win that 1 thing when they complete 15 other "platinum, gold, silver, copper, bronze" offers. However the hell its done, its crooked from the ground up.

Thats why I say, learn your best to get over on these *******s, untill the networks clean their acts up, what in the world gives you incentive to clean your act up?
I also think this would explain the many blackhat forums we have. But thats for another thread, on another forum. These people devote their lives to ripping off these networks, and I don't really feel bad for the networks one tiny bit. Look how they are run, how can anyone legitimately feel bad for them?

1 In email submits we are not paid by the user buying it, we get paid when someone puts their email and submits it. And the worst part of CPA is the email submits but the rest is legit.

I would post my arguments but its just tooooooooo long of a post to do it :/

lol, the OP hasn't even posted back since the beginning of the thread. I guess he doesn't care about anyone's opinions?

Don't give up and continue using the network to get success