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i have lost hope of earning from internet marketting ...
it sucks ..
i have lost mt 200 $ ..got nothing in return
#cpa #sucks
  • Profile picture of the author hsk2010
    hey Mikerosoft
    What's wrong? I know just how difficult it can be to keep on moving without any ray of hope but trust me once you have overcome your difficulty, the view from the top is amazing
    Need any help? I will be glad to do so and I also noticed your post count is very less. You must keep asking plenty of questions so that you begin to learn
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  • Profile picture of the author joerudy1988
    What makes you think that? How long have you been trying this?
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  • Profile picture of the author david15923
    If you want to quit, go ahead, because nobody will stop it but yourself... I've seen a guy on this forum that spent like 1000$ on products, tools, etc. and he still didn't made 1 cent! He didn't quit, and I think latter on he had his first sale on click bank or whatever. RESEARCH about it first! Than you take action. Look for case studies, tips, tricks, ask for help etc. on how you are going to promote your offers and then just take action.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Even experienced marketers in CPA......lose money 9 times out of 10. They expect to, its part of the game. As they learn more and tweak and test, they lose less and less then break even on campaigns, then they add and subtract target urls etc , then they turn a profit. Thats how the game is played.
    Do you see somewhere a guarantee, spend money , and you make X amount ?
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  • Profile picture of the author BorisManUtd
    My friend once said "The only reasson to fail in Internet Marketing is leaving too early".
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    • Profile picture of the author warrior212
      Originally Posted by BorisManUtd View Post

      My friend once said "The only reasson to fail in Internet Marketing is leaving too early".
      I agree, it's a part of the journey to success, you just have to find the right methods.
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  • Profile picture of the author steve m
    I wouldn't give up, $200 is not a lot of money to lose in this game. iv'e lost a lot more then that. but once you get it right it all gets better.

    steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
      Originally Posted by steve m View Post

      I wouldn't give up, $200 is not a lot of money to lose in this game. iv'e lost a lot more then that. but once you get it right it all gets better.

      steve
      Yeah we lost more than that.

      OP thinks CPA is a heaven and he would earn his lazy money.
      There are not shortcut, if everyone join CPA would be rich, who want to work as service then.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Nothing in return? Not even $5? What offer(s) were you promoting and what traffic platform were you using?
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  • Profile picture of the author SCW19
    CPA does not suck. I make most of my money from it
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  • Profile picture of the author JamesMcCaferty
    Bro, your mindset is backwards.

    CPA clearly doesn't suck, and of course there are people that make money on it. Sure, you lost 200 bucks, and that may suck, but hopefully you can learn from it, improve, and hopefully come out better next time.

    Making it online is more of a mental endurance marathon anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shon Chris
    Originally Posted by mikerosoft View Post

    i have lost hope of earning from internet marketting ...
    it sucks ..
    i have lost mt 200 $ ..got nothing in return

    Look....cut the crap and stop feeling sorry for yourself.

    Wanna know why Allen calls this the WARRIOR Forum.

    I've been a Full time Internet Marketer for 11 years now.

    I've lost WAYYYY more than a couple hundred bucks.

    Theres value in losing money if you open your eyes.

    Heres what just happened to you......

    You learned What NOT to do.

    Guess what....my goal with ANY Paid Advertising I ever run is to....
    FAIL FAST.

    It comes down to 3 Stupid principles....

    -Fail Fast
    -Gain Data
    -Optimize (Separate the Wheat from the Chaff)

    You can do this .....I promise you.

    Now....go back to your affiliate manager(s) and ask them to give you
    at least 10 email submits that are Killing it with PPC.

    Then I want you to read my post ... http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...our-bi-ch.html

    By the way...the post applies to any type of paid PPC advertising...not just 7Search.

    Bottom line.....TOUGHEN UP.....keep putting up campaigns and pay CLOSE attention to the results.

    Thats where the GOLD lies....in the DATA.

    -Fail Fast
    -Gain Data
    -Optimize (Separate the Wheat from the Chaff)

    I won't apologize for being hard on you......this is not for the faint of heart.

    This sh*t is for WARRIORS.

    You CAN do this stuff. There is no doubt.

    Wish you the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author phlx
      Originally Posted by xzzxpimpxzzx View Post

      wow i did 24k last month on cpa how does that suck

      wow that's amazing. can you share any details?
      My friend and I read abit on this forum for a few months and tried CPA. and we can't figure out how anyone on the internet is stupid enough to fill out a CPA form.
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      • Profile picture of the author lukee
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        Originally Posted by phlx View Post

        wow that's amazing. can you share any details?
        My friend and I read abit on this forum for a few months and tried CPA. and we can't figure out how anyone on the internet is stupid enough to fill out a CPA form.
        This ^^ I have promoted my links and site a hell lot and my balance stil reads 0.00

        and email submits,etc. are pure scams from what i've found ,PURE SCAMS!
        please read my other thread about these scams as I can't yet post links
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by lukee View Post

          This ^^ I have promoted my links and site a hell lot and my balance stil reads 0.00

          and email submits,etc. are pure scams from what i've found ,PURE SCAMS!
          please read my other thread about these scams as I can't yet post links
          It's true there is a lot of misleading CPA offers around.

          Get a Free iPad 3. *Complete 18 offers that cost more than the price of an iPad 3 and be bombarded with email advertisements.


          Where did you promote your site and how much daily traffic were you getting? Most CPA offers only accept US traffic so maybe most of your traffic isn't from the US. Also, does the offer have a good conversion rate according to the stats on the CPA network and does it match your sites target audience?
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    • Profile picture of the author hostsdepot
      Originally Posted by xzzxpimpxzzx View Post

      wow i did 24k last month on cpa how does that suck
      Could you please tell me which network are you using ?

      Thanks in advance!
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  • Profile picture of the author domainarama
    $200? That wouldn't even be tuition for one college course. Think of the $200 you lost as tuition on your CPA101 course.
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  • Profile picture of the author Asper
    Everything backs out to a CPA that isnt branding.

    What kind of traffic are you driving? CPA might just be the wrong fit for your traffic and content. Matching traffic and content to the right mon method is the difference between making a fortune and making next to nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    CPA is a great business model, but it's definitely not a money making machine where you put $200 and get $500 back.

    $200 isn't everything you need to build a successful business, knowledge, effort, mindset, etc are a few other things that are very important for an internet marketer to be successful.


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  • Profile picture of the author mtmjohn
    Originally Posted by mikerosoft View Post

    i have lost hope of earning from internet marketting ...
    it sucks ..
    i have lost mt 200 $ ..got nothing in return
    Never give up, buddy!

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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    good one Yao
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  • Profile picture of the author smaxor
    If you don't have money to invest into your education and learning to buy traffic I'd start with SEO. To have success with paying for media you need to have some sort of an on going budget to test and learn.

    This isn't a get rich quick game. There's millions to be made but you need to put in the work and invest in your education.
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  • Profile picture of the author redbaron13
    I'm sorry, but I have to agree that CPA does suck. Forget the money you can make, from what I have seen, how can anyone feel good promoting such garbage? Everything I have seen on CPA is never ending worthless questions about stupid stuff, and endless advertisements. The whole thing to me feels like a fraud. I got this opinion from signing up for 2 different CPA networks, getting accepted, then going through the offers. I'm sure there are a small few out there that are not as bad, but the vast majority are pure GARBAGE!
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  • Profile picture of the author macker2298
    It's def not for everyone..you spent $200 but how much time did you put into it? it takes time to make anything work, any business model anywhere in the world and $200 is really not all that much.
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  • Profile picture of the author SirTestAlot
    I am feeling exactly the same way as the OP today. I keep trying campaigns that are failing. See my thread:
    http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...ml#post5958312

    Although I know success is just around the corner, but I wish I knew the best way to start making money. There are so many different methods people are using, I can't figure out which is the fastest way to profits....content blocking or not, ppc or ppv, $3 leads or $8 leads or $20 leads or $40 sales, squeeze page or not, direct linking to affiliate site etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnMoney
    Don't give up Cpa does not suck I started on facebook making $$ and making fanpages about hobby's i like and sports i like and started making money $$$ with my fanpages that I i know make a full time living. Don't quit just keep trying. You need to gather the right info then put into action. And stick with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jordyminty
    CPA does not suck, I myself make decent change with it. I have seen people generate $40K + with CPA, recently. If you know what you are doing it can generate huge cash.

    Myself, I am currently only making around $20 a day with CPAlead, but I have plans on increasing that to over $100 here soon. CPAlead is awesome, but I am contemplating switching my traffic around to other networks though to test rates, anybody with a suggestion? I am new to these networks, but so far this has been all I needed.
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  • Profile picture of the author rangeradith
    I guess you must move on and increase your spirit to be a success affiliater on CPA. Don't give up dude
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  • Profile picture of the author cloudstrife
    CPA is not crap. Start afresh.
    start in the motivation subsection.
    Then read this very subsection.
    You will attain incredible insight into how to make money online with CPA.
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    failure is feedback
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    • Profile picture of the author RussCashU
      Originally Posted by NicheDad View Post

      failure is feedback

      Couldn't say it anymore simpler and straight to the point. You need to work hard and learn, You cannot say "I'll spend $200 and make $2,000 right off the bat". Working hard, Optimizing and asking questions will make you that much better.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarkSmallwood
    I agree that one should never give up. You always need to give it your best, and never stop until you accomplish your goals.
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  • Profile picture of the author mogulmap
    Originally Posted by mikerosoft View Post

    i have lost hope of earning from internet marketting ...
    it sucks ..
    i have lost mt 200 $ ..got nothing in return
    My first go at internet marketing I made 6 sales of a $37 product but spent $1800 in advertising, you do the math..... I was destroyed!. That was over 6 years ago, I didnt know it at the time but looking back.... it was the best money I ever spent and the best lesson I ever learned!

    And by the way there were a bunch of failures after that one as well....

    Don't quit or you'll end up like the guy on the bottom! STAY HUNGRY!

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    • Profile picture of the author Goldenchute
      Hey, Don't Give Up!

      A little story about me. My wife fought breast cancer for 5 years, I had a kidney removed due to cancer as well. I set out to learn what I could and proceeded my IM journey. After our hardships, I felt I needed something else to fall back on besides my J.O.B. So looking to make a little extra to sock away for the future.

      I spent almost $600 in 2 months with CPA via PPV/CPV and decided that was not for me. Besides, using email and zip submit offers just didn't make enough back to keep that going. Oh, they do work well for me using MySpace. Yea, MySpace still works.

      A little over a year ago, I chose a very tough niche to go after. I knew it was going to be a long haul but, I did it just to keep me entertained at times. I chose the payday loan niche. I bought a domain with exact match domain. Oh, the offer is a CPA offer that pays over $45!

      I paid a guy $12 for a 850 word article here on Warrior Forum. He's a good writer especially for the Amazon product niches. I added a few extra pages of relevant information.

      Then I paid a lady here on Warrior Forum who will write an article (and they are very good), then the article is spun and submitted to article directories and blog networks. No BMR or the others that have been de-indexed. The process she follows takes about 3 months to complete an articles are always going out to keep link velocity even. That cost a little over $40.

      And then of course I would do my own MANUEL backlinking everyday. I would only go after about 2 or 3 a day. Nothing rushed.

      After 6 months of the site being live, I started earning a few commissions a month, that was pretty good. To this day, that CPA offer earns me 2 to 3 commission payments a day at over $45 a pop! And I don't do anything with that site anymore. It just keeps making me money :-) If the CPA is cancelled, I go find another and change the links on the site.

      Okay so what's the bottom line? No matter how many obstacles are thrown at you, keep moving! If this 55 year old man who's wife fought cancer for 5 years and I myself fought off kidney cancer and am here to tell you this story, why would you quit so easy????

      Making money online is NOT easy for most but, when you start to get the hang of it...just keep moving forward and it will come. If you can't afford to pay for traffic, don't! Go back and find a specific product or niche that you like and know about and start there. And stick to it. No matter what, stick with it like a pitbull on prime rib! Build out the website and stick to it. I have websites that I built last year that are now profitable.

      Now I build Amazon product sites, CPA offer sites and whatever fits my fancy. But, when I build out the website I stick to it until it brings in money. Then I move on.

      Of course, now I know how to make a little money via Plenty of Fish advertising, CPV/PPV and so on. But, I start one thing and stick to that ONE THING until it makes money or 6 months, whichever comes first.

      DON'T GIVE UP!
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      • Profile picture of the author SirTestAlot
        Originally Posted by Goldenchute View Post

        Then I paid a lady here on Warrior Forum who will write an article (and they are very good), then the article is spun and submitted to article directories and blog networks. No BMR or the others that have been de-indexed. The process she follows takes about 3 months to complete an articles are always going out to keep link velocity even. That cost a little over $40.
        I liked your story, except for this part how you said you're using SEO to make money with CPA.

        Please, everyone reading this, stop doing SEO right now, and learn how to use ppc/ppv/media to get traffic to your high converting (not low converting due to having to SEO the crap out of them) sites.


        Originally Posted by boosters View Post

        Don't go with PPC that will make you beggar. Do SEO and success.
        As said above, this is completely the opposite of the truth. Only morons doing PPC will become beggars. Intelligent people who actually learn how to do it first will do well.
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  • Profile picture of the author usazing
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    Originally Posted by mikerosoft View Post

    i have lost hope of earning from internet marketting ...
    it sucks ..
    i have lost mt 200 $ ..got nothing in return
    $200 is Nothing, when you looking to make $1000s

    Anyway Never Give Up, Look in the right way, do the right Thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author shuwangyan
    I am also testing water,alghough the results is dim,but I will climb,and continue,until I reach the top of the mountain.!!!
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    Don't go with PPC that will make you beggar. Do SEO and success.
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  • Profile picture of the author calfred
    Did you promote the right offer?

    Not all offers convert bro.

    IMHO, you would have to be real lucky to find a long term converting CPA campaign (if we're talking about high payout offers) with just $200.

    Come on. What kinda business can you start with $200? Step up and try pooling a budget of $1000 instead, bare minimum.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mr Lim
      Originally Posted by calfred View Post

      Did you promote the right offer?

      Not all offers convert bro.

      IMHO, you would have to be real lucky to find a long term converting CPA campaign (if we're talking about high payout offers) with just $200.

      Come on. What kinda business can you start with $200? Step up and try pooling a budget of $1000 instead, bare minimum.
      This is not kinda movitation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Eutaw
    I know it seems rough. But you are just getting started. Any business has growing pains. Don't give up. Just try something different.
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  • Profile picture of the author RySpencer
    There are so many people on here that are looking to help you out! Can you imagine. All it took was 1 post (your first) and all these people want to help you and tell you their life stories.

    Sadly, I do not think you have returned since you posted this
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  • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
    So with PPC CPA, apparently you have to waste thousands of dollars just to make a penny? That doesn't sound like a good business model to me. A good business model is something that requires as little investment as possible to make a profit. PPC seems too much like blind tweaking of knobs while you cross your fingers and hope something works... when the chances of it working are always stacked against you.

    I just don't see that as a "good" business model.

    Another thing about email submits I've never understood. You guys are saying they can tell by the fact that those email submits didn't result in "buys". Let me ask a stupid question, an email submit (most the ones I've seen) are promotions like "win a free ipad" or "win a free cheesecake factory card" etc etc.

    So let me get this straight, untill a person decides to go buy an ipod... (when thats not even what they're promoting they're promoting for you to win an ipod) you don't make any money? Thats pretty stupid and that alone would bug me out about email offers. These offers never appear to be selling anything. They also appear like they would attract people in droves who are looking for free stuff. So again, where is the whole buying behavoir happening with these email submits?

    WHEN are people actually buying something? I understand in higher converting offers like insurance or dating or teethwhitening, an actual PRODUCT is being advertised. But with email submits, you should get paid for getting an email because NOTHING is being sold. Emails ARE worth money, the fact so many of these networks will take countless emails, and not pay you, I say eff them.
    I tried running email submits a long time ago, got like 200 views advertising on forums, and not single penny made from it. These weren't friends, they were normal people. If that CPA company is waiting for these people to stop entering their competitions (that they are ADVERTISING) so they can go buy a "free" ipad, that honestly makes no sense to me whatsoever.

    Maybe I'm missing something, but to a degree email submits DO sound like a scam. Also considering how the email submits work, they keep bombarding you with offers you're not interested in, that are different from the original, so really, I don't see almost anyway in hell how you can make money with email submits.

    Number 1, theres nothing to buy.
    Number 2, they keep changing the offer, (like all CPA offers seem to do) to different things, hoping to get a bite, when it really just pisses people off.

    I think about myself filling out CPA offers before I even learned people were making money off them. There was NEVER A SINGLE OFFER I was able to complete begining to end, its just neverending popups & at the time, anytime I did a survey, I thought I was triggering a virus due to all the popups.

    I think the entire industry of CPA needs a serious reinventing. The way a lot of products are marketed is terrible, over promising always underdelivering. Always trying to get "free trials" out in order to get someones credit card number, then charge them 3 days later for a second trial they don't realize they even agreed to.

    Really, the people who run these CPA networks are roaches imo, scavengers looking to suck every last drop of blood they can from people. "Get your free teeth whitening trial" just pay shipping and its "FREE" lol. Then a few days later your free trial arrives, and someone hits your credit card up for $90.

    Thats why I've never felt like these networks deserve anything less than **** quality traffic. Who cares if its fake. Who cares if an account gets banned 5,000 times. I love how people are always trying to promote the idea of "being honest" when the networks themselves are ran on the most abhorrent form of greed that exists. Out right tricking people into paying for the shipping of free trials, telling people they can win 1 thing, then after they input their email, you tell them they can only win that 1 thing when they complete 15 other "platinum, gold, silver, copper, bronze" offers. However the hell its done, its crooked from the ground up.

    Thats why I say, learn your best to get over on these *******s, untill the networks clean their acts up, what in the world gives you incentive to clean your act up?
    I also think this would explain the many blackhat forums we have. But thats for another thread, on another forum. These people devote their lives to ripping off these networks, and I don't really feel bad for the networks one tiny bit. Look how they are run, how can anyone legitimately feel bad for them?
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  • Profile picture of the author david15923
    1 In email submits we are not paid by the user buying it, we get paid when someone puts their email and submits it. And the worst part of CPA is the email submits but the rest is legit.

    I would post my arguments but its just tooooooooo long of a post to do it :/
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  • Profile picture of the author Matthew NY
    lol, the OP hasn't even posted back since the beginning of the thread. I guess he doesn't care about anyone's opinions?
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by Matthew NY View Post

      lol, the OP hasn't even posted back since the beginning of the thread. I guess he doesn't care about anyone's opinions?
      thats because he is a troll
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