How much did you spend on your CPA education

12 years ago

I'm not going to say how much I spent, but you could "start" with $100 with paid traffic but it won't get you too far.. but it really depends on what types of techniques you will be using, if you are using "free" techniques like seo, article marketing, youtube, etc - then the $100 could be realistic

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outwest

12 years ago

Hi no I am talking paid traffic not SEO
SEO Takes WAY too long

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silverace 12 years ago

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

I'm not going to say how much I spent, but you could "start" with $100 with paid traffic but it won't get you too far.

Originally Posted by outwest

Hi no I am talking paid traffic not SEO
SEO Takes WAY too long

he just answered your question
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- outwest 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by silverace
  
  he just answered your question
  
  no he didnt,
  saying 100 bucks wont get you far with paid traffic is like saying if a tornado hits you you will probably get hurt
  
  kind of something which is understood already
  
  I had one guy tell me he opened a leadimpact acct , with 500 bucks, tried 12 campaigns , 8 of them were "winners" and scaled up from there (I find this hard to believe given even experienced Pro's say it takes them 10 campaigns to find one profitable one
  
  Then I see lots of guys say it costs them 400 dollars to test one campaign. Given that they also say it takes 10 campaigns tested to find one profitable one, to me that translates to 4000 dollars spent to find a profitable campaign
  
  thats where I am confused.
  I have posted this question before and people act like its a dumb question. To me its a very valid question. If it costs 4000-5000 dollars when starting paid traffic to start getting to profitability, (on average) I think this is very relevant and important to let newbies know that. So far I am just speculating based on what I have read
  
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Mr Lim

12 years ago

Over $500, on ebooks and campaign.

I don't have any successful story in paid traffic but in free traffic.

It hurts to see the downfall for newbie like me.

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silverace

12 years ago

it isn't a dumb question, but people aren't comfortable to put information like that out on a public forum. it's a personal thing, that's why most people don't want to say what they earn, spend to earn that etc. mostly because you also get a lot of pm's with the same question and" what are your keywords & campaigns & offers??????".

Also, there isn't 1 good answer for this. some people are lucky and instantly hit a winner, some people have to spend 3k to get their first winner, some more, some less. knowing what other people did won't get you anywhere, taking action does.

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outwest

12 years ago

Originally Posted by silverace

it isn't a dumb question, but people aren't comfortable to put information like that out on a public forum. it's a personal thing, that's why most people don't want to say what they earn, spend to earn that etc. mostly because you also get a lot of pm's with the same question and" what are your keywords & campaigns & offers??????".

Also, there isn't 1 good answer for this. some people are lucky and instantly hit a winner, some people have to spend 3k to get their first winner, some more, some less. knowing what other people did won't get you anywhere, taking action does.

"take action" is something I hear a lot
but to me its not that simple, the numbers need to make sense to me

for example
lets say you are correct and lots of people take 3k to 4k spent to hit a winning campaign

There was a guy on one of the paid forums I read his history, he had at 3 months into the buss 20 campaigns running, he said they averaged 15/day each, so 300/day net
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he also said he had tested 200 campaigns to find those 20 winners
ok so far so good

but
If it takes 3k-4k (300-400 per campain, x 10 campaigns) to find ONE winner

Ok avg campaign is making 15;/day profit
that took 3000 dollars to find that campaign, so thats 450/month "profit" on that campaign
but wait
if it costs 3000 dollars to find that campaign, that 450/month is not profit yet
until I recover my 3 grande, I am still in the hole

Ok so at 450/month
net on that campaign, it takes 6.5 months of that campaign being up and running and maintaining that income, for me to get to break even. How many campaigns run that long? from what I have seen not that many, before they are killed, Campaigns die all the time

My question is, if my figures above are accurate (correct me where I am wrong) how do people make money in this business?

As a numbers person, to me it only seems to make sense, if my numbers are correct, that the campaigns must be making way more than 15/day, in order for this business model to make any sense (each campaign)
or else it would have to cost you WAY less than 3-4k to find each successful campaign

one way or another the numbers I posted are not viable. So either I am woefully misinformed,
or the business model has some cracks in it

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silverace

12 years ago

Originally Posted by outwest

"take action" is something I hear a lot
but to me its not that simple, the numbers need to make sense to me

but
If it takes 3k-4k (300-400 per campain, x 10 campaigns) to find ONE winner

Ok avg campaign is making 15;/day profit
that took 3000 dollars to find that campaign, so thats 450/month "profit" on that campaign
but wait
if it costs 3000 dollars to find that campaign, that 450/month is not profit yet
until I recover my 3 grande, I am still in the hole

this is where you think all wrong. I don't say it will take 3-4k to find 1 winning campaign, but it's what it takes for some people to see their FIRST winning campaign. theres a point when you just get a "click" and start to see the dots connect. you'll learn when to cut a losing campaign faster(after $15 spend for instance) so you can find winners quicker. also, not every campaign will make $15 a day. some can make $100 a day, some more. the point is you don't have any numbers because it's - different for everybody - depends on niche - depends on traffic source - depends on your marketing capabilities. etc etc..

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Mr Lim

12 years ago

Originally Posted by silverace

this is where you think all wrong. I don't say it will take 3-4k to find 1 winning campaign, but it's what it takes for some people to see their FIRST winning campaign. theres a point when you just get a "click" and start to see the dots connect. you'll learn when to cut a losing campaign faster(after $15 spend for instance) so you can find winners quicker. also, not every campaign will make $15 a day. some can make $100 a day, some more. the point is you don't have any numbers because it's - different for everybody - depends on niche - depends on traffic source - depends on your marketing capabilities. etc etc..

This is what's the gold fact about. I'm not good in paid traffic but I know a few % of your traffic might be want to play the clicking game and there he goes to your link. That depends on alot of fact to find a winner campaign.

It sometimes depend on your luck too, ahaha...

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MTVida

12 years ago

Originally Posted by silverace

this is where you think all wrong. I don't say it will take 3-4k to find 1 winning campaign, but it's what it takes for some people to see their FIRST winning campaign. theres a point when you just get a "click" and start to see the dots connect. you'll learn when to cut a losing campaign faster(after $15 spend for instance) so you can find winners quicker. also, not every campaign will make $15 a day. some can make $100 a day, some more. the point is you don't have any numbers because it's - different for everybody - depends on niche - depends on traffic source - depends on your marketing capabilities. etc etc..

And to go even further, once a good campaign dies, it doesn't mean you're starting back at square 1. Your network may stop running the campaign, so you go find another network that still runs it. The advertiser may shut down the offer, but you know your traffic source is red-hot, so you look elsewhere in your niche. If your offer is solid, but your traffic source dries up or becomes saturated, you simply go testing it elsewhere with keywords/demographics that you know to work.

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harrisunderwork

12 years ago

@outwest - Do what you are comfortable with. The figures are never exact. I found the winner campaign in just 20$ its netting me what I replied you in PM.

What matter is you learn from the money you lost.

BTW, $4k for one winner campaign, no one will have that much patience.