Recommended hosting $100+ per signup? or is that BS

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Hosting Affiliate programs? They say they pay so much per signup, question is have you ever gotten paid that?

Hostgator? So many reviews I have read say they shave and pull any trick in the book not to pay their affiliates. That I do not need

Bluehost? I heard some really odd things about them, surprisingly.
Dreamhost? have heard mostly good

iPage ? some iffy stuff

So who have you used? and have they been reliable? and PAID you

Do you avoid places that pay out (supposedly 100 bucks per signup)
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  • Profile picture of the author chintanshah
    They wil pay you at hostgator if the user has stuck around for more than 3 months.
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by chintanshah View Post

      They wil pay you at hostgator if the user has stuck around for more than 3 months.
      Question is have you promoted them? and if so what percentage of your signups eventually end up hanging around and you get paid?

      I saw a post from one guy he said his friends needed hosting, he was making websites for them, 5 of them signed up
      they stayed 6 months, all of them. Those were legit signups all stayed SIX MONTHS............he got shaved down to one signup. Now if thats not scammy, i dont know what is


      I have read tons of similar complaints

      Your signup paid his bill late so we are not paying you, they must be current, yes they were only 1 day late but sorry this cancels your commission. etc etc etc etc etc

      Heck I even entered in Google
      shaving Dreamhost
      what comes up on top?

      Hostgator shaving complaints, not dreamhost
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  • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
    Hostgator is a scam. If you got hosting traffic check out hosting programs at cj.com
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    cj.com is just a reseller

    if the company is scammy, signing up through cj wont change that
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  • Profile picture of the author kpmedia
    The high-paying affiliate hosts became large due to the high payouts. All those fake "top 10" lists suggested them for payouts alone. Those hosts grew. The now-larger hosts therefore attract a lot of fraud, being a bigger target. Many of them also deteriorated in quality, with growth outpacing stability. Between fraud and legitimate-but-unhappy customers, you end up with 50-90% of your commissions gutted by the time the 90-day clearance passes.

    HG has historically been good for hosting quality, even with their growth, but the affiliate program is mostly aggravating. They attract thousands of fraud orders per day. The larger the company, the bigger the target. Some of the fraud orders go through affiliate links, which causes the headache. Repeat customers are also considered invalid at HG, so a person "switching back" to a host can be marked invalid, too. (The "switch back" is because many HG customers find it gets worse, not better, at other so-called "unlimited" hosts.)

    Just my observation.
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by kpmedia View Post

      The high-paying affiliate hosts became large due to the high payouts. All those fake "top 10" lists suggested them for payouts alone. Those hosts grew. The now-larger hosts therefore attract a lot of fraud, being a bigger target. Many of them also deteriorated in quality, with growth outpacing stability. Between fraud and legitimate-but-unhappy customers, you end up with 50-90% of your commissions gutted by the time the 90-day clearance passes.

      HG has historically been good for hosting quality, even with their growth, but the affiliate program is mostly aggravating. They attract thousands of fraud orders per day. The larger the company, the bigger the target. Some of the fraud orders go through affiliate links, which causes the headache. Repeat customers are also considered invalid at HG, so a person "switching back" to a host can be marked invalid, too. (The "switch back" is because many HG customers find it gets worse, not better, at other so-called "unlimited" hosts.)

      Just my observation.
      so who do you recommend for hosting affiliate programs, you seem to know your stuff
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      • Profile picture of the author Kingfish85
        Originally Posted by outwest View Post

        so who do you recommend for hosting affiliate programs, you seem to know your stuff
        Smaller companies. KPMedia is absolutely correct. You may not get as high of a payout, but at least you have piece of mind that the customer is being treated as a valued customer.

        The reason HG, GoDaddy etc are as big as they are, is because of affiliates, definitely not their service. Now, HostGator, is somewhat of an exception, because they are probably one of the better managed "unlimited" companies. They are slowly slipping though.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebMarketingDiva
    I'm a Hostgator affiliate, but I've only been using them for my web design clients, so I KNOW who I am sending to Hostgator and can track whether or not they've paid me... and I have gotten paid on all of them... with a little work.

    I like Hostgator as a hosting company, so I do send my clients there.

    Here are a few tips in dealing with Hostgator as an affiliate...

    1. Hostgator will only pay $100 if you do more than a certain amount of sales/month (I can't remember what that minimum is). But if you sign up as an affiliate for Hostgator through CJ.com, they give you $100 flat on every sale. When I called Hostgator to complain about this, they upped my commission to $100.

    2. Hostgator will NOT pay you your commission if the customer does not pay their bill in time, and does not stick around for at least 3 months. BUT, when I've contacted support to complain about not getting paid when I should be, they have always ended up paying me.

    3. Hostgator will not pay you if the customer already has an account at Hostgator.

    Bottom line, you have to stay on top of your commissions. Use their tools in the back office to track them. And if they don't pay you for someone, dispute it with them... like I said, I've gotten paid every time (as long as they've been a customer for at least 3 months).

    Hope that helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author towhidzaman
      Good Tips. helpful, Thanks.
      Originally Posted by WebMarketingDiva View Post

      I'm a Hostgator affiliate, but I've only been using them for my web design clients, so I KNOW who I am sending to Hostgator and can track whether or not they've paid me... and I have gotten paid on all of them... with a little work.

      I like Hostgator as a hosting company, so I do send my clients there.

      Here are a few tips in dealing with Hostgator as an affiliate...

      1. Hostgator will only pay $100 if you do more than a certain amount of sales/month (I can't remember what that minimum is). But if you sign up as an affiliate for Hostgator through CJ.com, they give you $100 flat on every sale. When I called Hostgator to complain about this, they upped my commission to $100.

      2. Hostgator will NOT pay you your commission if the customer does not pay their bill in time, and does not stick around for at least 3 months. BUT, when I've contacted support to complain about not getting paid when I should be, they have always ended up paying me.

      3. Hostgator will not pay you if the customer already has an account at Hostgator.

      Bottom line, you have to stay on top of your commissions. Use their tools in the back office to track them. And if they don't pay you for someone, dispute it with them... like I said, I've gotten paid every time (as long as they've been a customer for at least 3 months).

      Hope that helps!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chr
    HostGator does in fact pay for their affiliates. They have a policy where the person must be a new customer and stay active with a domain name pointed to the name servers after 2 to 3 months. Most hosting affiliate programs have a policy like this, but with HostGator more commissions get filtered out. This is because HG has short contract durations (ie. you can get one month at a reasonable price) and because they off a coupon that makes the first month cost a penny. Those things make the initial conversions way higher (and I think the number of active conversions after three months decently larger).

    As kpmedia seems to have experienced, and I have experienced my self, you loose a lot of commissions when referrals are inactive, fraudulent, or turn out to be duplicates.

    I'd like to caution you away from recommending hosts based on the commissions they offer. Ultimately I would suggest things based on whatever is the best for the user. I think it would be a lot more satisfying to run a highly useful website than a highly successful website.

    I run a HostGator affiliate site, and I've had some success with it, but it feels silly. Its better than a lot of affiliate sites--I don't make the same dumb positive claims with no negative claims and I don't have a silly disclaimer about how I'm completely unbiased despite the giant commissions I get--but its not really useful and doesn't add a whole lot of value to the visitor (they would have found coupons elsewhere if not at my site). Now I'm think about starting a new venture with a hosting information site that's not BS and that at least temporarily and maybe permanently won't use affiliate links.

    I havn't use all the affiliate programs you listed but here's how I would rank the hosting quality:

    Hostgator - Good
    DreamHost - Decent
    Ipage - Bad for demanding sites, fine for small basic sites

    I'd like to respectfully challenge one of KingFish's points. While some small hosts are good, I would strongly disagree with the idea that small hosts are almost always good.

    Also, kpmedia, I'd like to thank you-I have a lot of respect for your hosting page/site.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Thanks all the comments so far
    One question, for those who say HG is good but you have to keep an eye on them

    what percentage of your signups. end up eventually sticking around for the required time period and you get paid your commission on them?
    10%, 20% 30% etc?
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    • Profile picture of the author Same
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Thanks all the comments so far
      One question, for those who say HG is good but you have to keep an eye on them

      what percentage of your signups. end up eventually sticking around for the required time period and you get paid your commission on them?
      10%, 20% 30% etc?
      It's all about your traffic.

      Let's say you have agreement with HG that you're going to send incentive leads to them. For example, you're offering free services to small business owners, so they register under your affiliate link. All the time, you can contact your lead and ask about stuff. Did you paid for the hosting, what's going on and bla bla bla. Then Hostgator can't shave or steal your leads. Who are new in HG affiliate they're most of the times experiencing Dublicate, Inactive account status. If your lead using coupon, your lead probably will need to call them or send ID, proof of address.

      But, if you're sending PPC, SEO traffic... then all your leads are in HG hands. I'm sending really high quality traffic to them, and I'm getting approved only about 30-40% of my leads, that's crazy. Anyway, you can always talk with them, say that it is bull****, why so many leads are inactive and bla bla bla.

      For example, I was sending about 40+ leads in 2 months. All leads were incentive. I had close contact with them, after 2 months only 60% of my leads were approved, I contacted HG, explained situation that I have contact with my leads, sent some leads emails ss, and after few days all leads were approved ( which paid on time for sure )

      Anyway, in my opinion, they should make smaller payout and not steal leads. It's really frustrating, when you work hard and half of your leads are stolen.

      What about payments - All payments are on time, no problem. Just new accounts have to wait 60 days of verification. That means if you sent leads July, you'll get paid only on October.

      P.S. HG should update their affiliate system. As they promised 2 years ago. LOL!

      If you're going to work with HG, pm me, we can talk.

      Originally Posted by Chr View Post

      It really depends on the methods you use to promote it. I expect that people who just list coupons on coupon sites and make videos showing people how to get a free month have a very small % get paid out. If you work with people who have established websites and a need for hosting, I expect the % is pretty high.

      I'm around 50%
      Even leads like that is the problem with HG... No matter what your lead is, no matter if he's paying on time, HG can shave/steal your lead anyway. They just put lead status as a Inactive. Unless you contact them and explaining how the hell nearly 50% of my leads are Inactive and etc. I guarantee you at least 10% of leads become active on your aff. account. That's the sad true of HG.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chr
    It really depends on the methods you use to promote it. I expect that people who just list coupons on coupon sites and make videos showing people how to get a free month have a very small % get paid out. If you work with people who have established websites and a need for hosting, I expect the % is pretty high.

    I'm around 50%
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  • Profile picture of the author Same
    @WebMarketingDiva,

    Well, HG doesn't deal affiliate related questions over the phone.
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  • Profile picture of the author kcom
    It is not a scam I have been paid by Hostgator for one referral. Little hard because it is such a competitive market. I think WebMarketingDiva has the right idea, by combining it with offline, so you are meeting the needs of your clients.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I dont think it is necessarily on the up and up just because people have gotten paid

    the read I get on the situation is, hostgator will pay, but if you have no way of verifying all your leads they will shave the leads, and steal some of them

    do other hosts do this? I am sure the answer is yes
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    • Profile picture of the author Same
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I dont think it is necessarily on the up and up just because people have gotten paid

      the read I get on the situation is, hostgator will pay, but if you have no way of verifying all your leads they will shave the leads, and steal some of them

      do other hosts do this? I am sure the answer is yes
      I tried bluehost. They love to mess with your referrals cookies. I received payout from them, but I also noticed that the precentage of shaved/ or stolen leads were bigger than in HG, because Hostgator most of the times pay for the shaved leads when you contact them about it.

      Anyway, it's hosting business. Go for trusted in-house hosting aff. programs, follow rules, fight for every lead, and everything will be fine. There is no need to get 100% approval rate of all your leads. The payouts are high, so they're getting dozens of fraudulent and fake leads every day.. That's why (probably) your leads are being shaved and etc.

      So.. what traffic you're going to send to hosting companies?
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    I was reading a thread on another site where a guy said that Bluehost sends an email to people who do not complete the signup process quickly. It tells them to "clilck here " and continue the signup

    the only thing is, suddenly the affiliate link, which WAS there when you sent them to sign up, magically disappears in the email signup link they are sent

    total horsecrap,
    I do see one guy making excellent money on this site
    Passive Income: The Smart Passive Income Blog
    where he posts his monthly income and also his affiliate sales broken down

    imagine how much that guy is losing though, to this practice
    If It were me and I was even thinking of sending them lots of traffic, or for example if I were him, I would test it out myself to see if they are doing it to my affiliate link, and if they were I would say, Ok either stop stealing my leads or I take my traffic elsewhere
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    • Profile picture of the author Same
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      I was reading a thread on another site where a guy said that Bluehost sends an email to people who do not complete the signup process quickly. It tells them to "clilck here " and continue the signup

      the only thing is, suddenly the affiliate link, which WAS there when you sent them to sign up, magically disappears in the email signup link they are sent

      total horsecrap,
      I do see one guy making excellent money on this site
      Passive Income: The Smart Passive Income Blog
      where he posts his monthly income and also his affiliate sales broken down

      imagine how much that guy is losing though, to this practice
      If It were me and I was even thinking of sending them lots of traffic, or for example if I were him, I would test it out myself to see if they are doing it to my affiliate link, and if they were I would say, Ok either stop stealing my leads or I take my traffic elsewhere
      Well hostgator offers very lucrative deal. $125 p/lead is very big money. Probably they have 100+ new accounts every day, even more.

      Well, and one more funny thing about HG Recently I contacted them about my "Inactive" leads, and been told that they're not scam out anything, we're paying $1M+ per month to our affiliates **** like that. So they said They can't fix - everything is correct. After 2-3 hours checked same leads - all Active

      That's funny, - 8 leads active in the few hours period.

      I can't say that Hosgator is scamming people, but I bet many commissions are gone from accounts who making 30k$-50k$ per month. It's just high market offer, so you don't need to be angry - in anyway you'll make bunch of cash.
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      • Profile picture of the author DJL
        Has anybody worked as an affiliate for Eleven2.com (formerly SharkSpace)?
        I am very happy with their service as a customer, so considering promoting it.
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