I Went from 0 to $21,000 in 40 Days - Thanks WarriorForum

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A bit of history about me. I have a good established blog in tech niche that was earning me nice $1200-$1500 a month. It was doing good in all the Panda and Penguin updates until the May 25 Penguin update where I lost 80% of the traffic and earnings. It was a big eye-opener for me. I am (was) not a big fan of having multiple small blogs and thought I would make it big with just 1 blog.

So, starting May 26, I looked into different ways of making money. 1 way was to make multiple niche blogs and the other one, Affiliate Marketing with paid traffic. I choose the later for 2 reasons:

1) Instant Results
2) Unlimited money making potential

So ahead I went and started reading everything I could about AM. I quickly found WarriorForum and am glad that I did. I went ahead and read almost every thread in this sub-forum for about a week. There's so much knowledge on this forum that if you stick with just 1 method, you will make bank pretty easily. I joined a few other forums too and read everything I could lay my hands on. I know that taking action is the best learning experience but I needed to make sure how everything works and how to track and optimize stuff before-hand.

I started with facebook ads on 11 June 2012 but was really disappointed at the start. I chose dating vertical and all my ads got disapproved every single day for 7 days straight. I would submit ads in the morning, wait for them to approve till noon and submit more ads and wait for approval till the evening. I never saw 1 ad approved in that entire week and boy was I frustrated. Which brings us to June the 18th. My entire batch of about 30 ads got approved. I submitted more ads based on them and got the total of about 300 ads in 10 different campaigns. I resumed all ads right away and set daily budget to $20 on each campaign which is $200 for the entire day. The first day went without a conversion. I spent only $105 mostly because I was bidding a bit lower than what FB recommended. On the second day, I decided to up my bids and paused all campaigns but one. I put it at $200 daily budget and put the bids at $0.68 CPC. I saw 2 conversions 20 minutes in and was so happy to realize the '+' sign in Prosper202 actually changes to a '$' sign when you get a conversion. Happy moment. I have no idea why changing the bids had an affect on conversions but I never changed them on that campaign afterwards. (or maybe a different day was converting different, no idea though.)

I saw 2 more conversions in the rest of the day but nothing fancy. Spent total $100 and made $22 back. This was before any optimization and I knew I could make it profitable (reading all those case studies really helps). Second day ended with almost break-even. Spent $100 to make $98. It has been an exciting ride ever since. I made more campaigns, added more offers and in the coming month started doing PoF ads. I was just checking my various accounts and have made $21090.50 since I started running ads on 18 June 2012. Not bad for first 40 days huh?

Now, I know most people here don't like revenue figures so I am going to post ad spend and profit too. And for ADHD readers, here is a nice little TL; DR for you.

Date Started: 18/June/2012
Traffic Sources: Facebook and PlentyOfFish
First Profit day: 21 June 2012 ($3 profit)
First $100 day (revenue): 1 July 2012
First $1000 day (revenue): July 25 2012
Total Spent in ads: $5,186.30 (Around $5300 after adding the Forex fees)
Total Profit: ~14800 after deducting hosting and other expenses.
Vertical: Dating
Best offers: FindMeLove, Richmen, True.com

I am so glad my blog was hit by penguin. I wouldn't have tried AM otherwise and would have never gotten 10 month's worth of profit in just 1 month. WarriorForums and some of the members here really helped to make a big difference in my success. Salute to everyone especially my Affiliate managers, without whom this would never have been possible.

I didn't make this thread to brag. I simply made it because maybe some of you need a bit of push and to know what really is possible. I am not a smart guy and am actually pretty far from it (otherwise I would have started doing AM a lot earlier ) and if I can do it, anyone can. Just keep believing and keep taking risks. When I spent my first $100 on FB ads, I had no intention of seeing anything in return (which actually happened) and this helped me in spending more the next day. If I had gotten scared after losing the $100, I would have never made profit in the next few days and would have easily given up. This would have really wasted the $100 ad spend.

Really looking forward to the coming months and see how everything pans out.

I would be happy to answer your questions as long as you don't ask me for LPs, ad copies and targeting .
#$21 #dating #days #facebook #pof #profits #warriorforum
  • Profile picture of the author talbrice
    Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

    I never saw 1 ad approved in that entire week and boy was I frustrated. Which brings us to June the 18th. My entire batch of about 30 ads got approved..
    Thanks for this inspiring post.
    1 question: Have you changed something that caused your ads to be approved all the sudden?
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    • Profile picture of the author erkut
      congratulation the key of success is always testing
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  • Profile picture of the author moiurbd
    I want to earn money through cpa .Will u help me?
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  • Profile picture of the author Trevor
    Thanks man for this great and inspiring post. It only proofs to us that we as marketers should not rely on one income stream and should always strive to diversify and put the eggs into more baskets than just one.

    Google is your friend and you should treat it that way, but over the years we've been taught that we cannot rely on it. In fact, best practice is to rely on your own and become completely independent with your business model.

    Dating is an ever-green niche and there's a lot of money to be made within it. You are very generous sharing your best-converting offers with us - thanks for that!
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    • Short of hitting a dating site. FB must be the best place to use these ads on. Just goes to show what can be achieved if you hit the right target market.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jetmir
    Thank you for making such a valuable and inspiring post. I truly mean it.
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  • Profile picture of the author abdoue
    I'm inspired

    thank you very much
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  • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
    Originally Posted by talbrice View Post

    Thanks for this inspiring post.
    1 question: Have you changed something that caused your ads to be approved all the sudden?
    I changed a couple of things. First, FindMeLove has a low myWOT score so I guess that's why it wasn't approved. Second, I wasn't mentioning the name of dating service in ads - which is a must for Facebook. Facebook never told me what to change and it was just a matter of trial and error really.
    Originally Posted by moiurbd View Post

    I want to earn money through cpa .Will u help me?
    You can ask your questions here, I will try to answer as long as the questions don't threaten my campaigns.

    I actually wanted to diversify my earning streams ever since google started with all the wildlife schemes but never got around to it. The Penguin finally gave me the push I needed.

    Also, I don't have enough post-count to reply to PMs so I won't be able to reply there.
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  • Profile picture of the author speedylikesKJ
    I always say don't ever give up and stick with just one traffic source avoid jumping. ... A great lesson for those who try 2,3 ads and get disappointed after losing ... That is a fact no campaign is winner from the day one

    Difference between you and others is that you did n`t complained on some forum saying facebook sucks, my ads not getting approved instead you did tried and tried again
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  • Profile picture of the author Larbi Rahmani
    great to read posts like these,
    thanks for sharing, really inspiring.
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    • Profile picture of the author seriousbsnz
      Im sorry im a bit of a cynic. Im not saying you are full of it, but it just seems kinda of fishy to me that you joined in june only have 8 posts and were able to succeed in such little time. I just smell a pitch or referral coming.
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    Shh OP, don't share the money making secrets!
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    Awesome case study.
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  • Profile picture of the author prisha
    What a disappointment. This is the first thread I read on this website. I am totally new to this whole thing and yet even I can see this guy is a total fake.
    I hope the rest of the website is like this.
    Darn.
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by seriousbsnz View Post

      Im sorry im a bit of a cynic. Im not saying you are full of it, but it just seems kinda of fishy to me that you joined in june only have 8 posts and were able to succeed in such little time. I just smell a pitch or referral coming.
      I am sorry I don't have 1000+ posts with threads like "What is the best CPA network" and "Should I direct link" or "What bid to put in Facebook". I don't like to create useless threads and although I am new to AM, I have been making money online from a very long time. You are entitled to your opinion and I really don't care if you believe me or not. Either way, I have nothing to gain or loose.


      Originally Posted by prisha View Post

      What a disappointment. This is the first thread I read on this website. I am totally new to this whole thing and yet even I can see this guy is a total fake.
      I hope the rest of the website is like this.
      Darn.
      I guess people want to believe no one is making money. I have seen people saying Ryan Eagle is fake and his cars are rented. I have seen people say how a screenshot look photoshopped when someone shows them they make 36K a day.

      Yes, rest of this forum is like this thread too. You will find people making 100K a day and they are all liars. No one makes money online and you should go back to your day-job.

      Although I really hate post screenshots, here you go.

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      Can we end "Is this real?" now or do we need to discuss whether this screenshot is edited?
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      • Profile picture of the author seriousbsnz
        Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

        I am sorry I don't have 1000+ posts with threads like "What is the best CPA network" and "Should I direct link" or "What bid to put in Facebook". I don't like to create useless threads and although I am new to AM, I have been making money online from a very long time. You are entitled to your opinion and I really don't care if you believe me or not. Either way, I have nothing to gain or loose.



        I guess people want to believe no one is making money. I have seen people saying Ryan Eagle is fake and his cars are rented. I have seen people say how a screenshot look photoshopped when someone shows them they make 36K a day.

        Yes, rest of this forum is like this thread too. You will find people making 100K a day and they are all liars. No one makes money online and you should go back to your day-job.

        Although I really hate post screenshots, here you go.

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        Can we end "Is this real?" now or do we need to discuss whether this screenshot is edited?

        Im sorry if i offended you. I just dont understand if you are making that much, what are you still doing hanging around on the forum?

        Again im not accusing you of anything but can you answer this for me?
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        • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
          Originally Posted by seriousbsnz View Post

          Im sorry if i offended you. I just dont understand if you are making that much, what are you still doing hanging around on the forum?

          Again im not accusing you of anything but can you answer this for me?
          I really don't know how to answer this. As I said in the OP, just wanted people to know this is possible and this can be done without buying all those WSOs and tools people think are necessary for making money. And I like the idea of helping people just because I know how much I appreciated when someone helped me when I was starting out.

          Hope that answers your question.
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          • Profile picture of the author seriousbsnz
            Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

            I really don't know how to answer this. As I said in the OP, just wanted people to know this is possible and this can be done without buying all those WSOs and tools people think are necessary for making money. And I like the idea of helping people just because I know how much I appreciated when someone helped me when I was starting out.

            Hope that answers your question.
            I can understand that so i apologize for upsetting you. I am just at the point where im making good returns with ppc and cpa and once I feel im a little more accomplished I will be doing the same thing because like you said, no one really helps you out in the beginning. They say the will but in one way or another they want your money.
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      • Profile picture of the author nhynes57

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        Congratulations on your success. Very inspiring.

        Two questions.
        Are you direct linking or using a custom lander?

        US or International?

        Hope it stays profitable for you.

        Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      Originally Posted by prisha View Post

      What a disappointment. This is the first thread I read on this website. I am totally new to this whole thing and yet even I can see this guy is a total fake.
      I hope the rest of the website is like this.
      Darn.
      well if you are new to this then how would you know if he is a fake? if you don't have anything to contribute to this forum then don't bother posting
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    • Profile picture of the author ben565
      "What a disappointment. This is the first thread I read on this website. I am totally new to this whole thing and yet even I can see this guy is a total fake.
      I hope the rest of the website is like this.
      Darn."

      prisha you have new to this forum so you know if he is a fake? and if you dont have anything to contribute than don't bother posting here anymore
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    • Profile picture of the author outwest
      Originally Posted by prisha View Post

      What a disappointment. This is the first thread I read on this website. I am totally new to this whole thing and yet even I can see this guy is a total fake.
      I hope the rest of the website is like this.
      Darn.
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  • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
    How many landing pages are you using? Do you use angles?

    I think my AM downfall will be my unwillingness to create landing pages.. With dating offers I only direct-link. Gotta stop being lazy..
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    • Profile picture of the author seriousbsnz
      Originally Posted by shimmi View Post

      How many landing pages are you using? Do you use angles?

      I think my AM downfall will be my unwillingness to create landing pages.. With dating offers I only direct-link. Gotta stop being lazy..
      This is why i have been sticking with ppc until i understand how to make outstanding lp's. Actually as of this morning i just threw up some ads on facebook and directcpv after making a site with coffeecup. Its actually pretty easy to set up a landing page, you just need to make sure you have all the links and tracking set.
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    • Originally Posted by shimmi View Post

      How many landing pages are you using? Do you use angles?

      I think my AM downfall will be my unwillingness to create landing pages.. With dating offers I only direct-link. Gotta stop being lazy..
      To be honest with you direct linking to a dating offer is the best way to go. Depending on where you advertise 1) people don't want to enter their email just to go to another page and enter all their initiation again (kills conversions) 2) say you are using a page that has 2 pictures with attractive males/females and say sign up here to talk to them then I have tested that it converts well.

      These are just my results from background knowledge testing it from PPC and media buys.

      PPV is a waste of time until you know your conversion #'s.
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      • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
        Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM View Post

        2) say you are using a page that has 2 pictures with attractive males/females and say sign up here to talk to them then I have tested that it converts well.
        Many dating sites provide different LPs with their offers that are similar to what you are describing. You're basically saying i should stick to those and not bother making my own? Because if I were to make my own, it would be similar to what you described, and it would direct people to the dating site's LP after.
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        • Profile picture of the author Huyzy
          Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM View Post

          To be honest with you direct linking to a dating offer is the best way to go. Depending on where you advertise 1) people don't want to enter their email just to go to another page and enter all their initiation again (kills conversions) 2) say you are using a page that has 2 pictures with attractive males/females and say sign up here to talk to them then I have tested that it converts well.

          These are just my results from background knowledge testing it from PPC and media buys.

          PPV is a waste of time until you know your conversion #'s.
          Direct linking is NOT the best way to go all the time. It really does depend on where you advertise. Just because you don't direct link doesn't mean you're always trying to capture email leads.

          The thing that people don't understand about email marketing is that you can remarket them different related niche product all the time.

          Say you get 5% conversion for one product. Just from direct linking.

          When you get an email list, you can market 7 different products to them that are all related. You get 1% conversion from each product, but in the end, you still make more money!

          Plus, you don't even have to capture email leads. Sometimes the direct link doesn't capture the attention that it needs. Let's say you're promoting a dating offer, and the offer page just looks like a membership index site. From that moment, you should already know that will burn your money in advertising fees. You should be creating a landing page , perhaps ones with more graphic (e.g. a hot girl on a landing page, with a chat box). When they click that landing page, it'll redirect them to the dating offer link.

          The way it works is that you capture their attention with the big image of the hot girl and a chat box, making them want to communicate with her, after making the male audience pumped up, then drive to the website to sign up.

          if you just point it in membership index, most males won't bother to sign up because all they see is just another match.com



          And don't say PPV is a waste of time. PPV traffic is far more cheaper than PPC and is very good with testing. If you never done PPV successfully, you have not done it right.
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  • Very good post. If this was your very first ad them you lucked out so much!!

    What I would suggest is not to get your hopes up for a while running different ads because this ad (even for an expert) pulls in pretty well. Basically for every $1 you put in you got back $4(ish). That's pretty good.

    If the ad isn't dead then don't share your niche be greedy and take it to the bank!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Very inspiring . I am sure your thread going to inspire lots of warriors .

    Everybody should learn from your thread that diversification is very important . At the same time , focusing on one traffic source at a time is also very critical .
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by shimmi View Post

      How many landing pages are you using? Do you use angles?

      I think my AM downfall will be my unwillingness to create landing pages.. With dating offers I only direct-link. Gotta stop being lazy..
      I split test every single offer with and without a landing page. Making one isn't that difficult really. You just need 1 proven LP and then edit it for different offers and different angles. Atleast that's what I do.

      Originally Posted by nhynes57 View Post

      Congratulations on your success. Very inspiring.

      Two questions.
      Are you direct linking or using a custom lander?

      US or International?

      Hope it stays profitable for you.

      Thanks
      Both and both.

      Originally Posted by DanDasilva15YearOldIM View Post

      Very good post. If this was your very first ad them you lucked out so much!!

      What I would suggest is not to get your hopes up for a while running different ads because this ad (even for an expert) pulls in pretty well. Basically for every $1 you put in you got back $4(ish). That's pretty good.

      If the ad isn't dead then don't share your niche be greedy and take it to the bank!
      Thanks. I plan on doing that .
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  • Profile picture of the author contentwriting360
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    Seems like I got to start the CPA campaign, too. I got to learn it first. That's a very inspiring post. Thanks Puff!
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  • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
    Hey OP,
    I am in the midst of having some success with direct linking right now, although it's still a small amount. I'm about to switch to split testing my landing pages and so I have some questions.

    1) Does a lander work better for you all the time?
    2) How long till an offer dies out on FB ads for you?
    3) Do the weekdays convert as well as weekends?
    4) How tough is the US market compared to the international market? I suppose that you would need a really creative angle + high bids & budget to get somewhere.

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by mtmjohn View Post

      Congratulations! Very interesting and inspiring! Keep it up!
      Thanks
      Originally Posted by nicktnack View Post

      Hey OP,
      I am in the midst of having some success with direct linking right now, although it's still a small amount. I'm about to switch to split testing my landing pages and so I have some questions.

      1) Does a lander work better for you all the time?
      2) How long till an offer dies out on FB ads for you?
      3) Do the weekdays convert as well as weekends?
      4) How tough is the US market compared to the international market? I suppose that you would need a really creative angle + high bids & budget to get somewhere.

      Thanks.
      1) No, not always. Some offers work better direct linked.
      2) Depends on the demo. If it is large, the ad is good for 20+ days. If the demo is <50K, it dies out in a week for me. I just keep more ads ready and swap them up when things slow down.
      3) Weekends convert better for dating offers. Mondays are the worst for me.
      4) Yes, exactly.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
        Hey OP, a few more general questions. When an offer dies, do you wait for perhaps 1-2 weeks before coming back to promote it again? Also, running the offer over a weekend, I did not successfully manage to scale it. For example:

        Day 1: $50 budget split between 2 campaigns, 25-25 and I got 90% ROI
        Day 2: $100 budget split between 2 campaigns, 50-50 and I got 35% ROI

        Is it always a hit and miss and how much you would say I should use as a budget to profit better on the weekends?
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  • Profile picture of the author biz_online
    Great case study... way to stick it out..
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  • Profile picture of the author Tamalkrishna
    Sorry to hear that you have started finding new ways to earn money. If you have a blog and full of useful information you can still earn money from your blog. If all of your blog posts are unique and useful for people, it should not take long time to get so many visitors again from your site. Remember, whatever updates Google makes, it will always give value to unique and useful contents that people like. So if you have loyal readers of your blog, you should never be afraid of loosing visitors to your site. Stick to it. You will succeed.

    Never depend on only one source of Traffic. Rather spread words about about your website all over the internet. So there can be a lot of ways from where traffic can come to your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author tonywarrior2
      Originally Posted by Tamalkrishna View Post

      Sorry to hear that you have started finding new ways to earn money. If you have a blog and full of useful information you can still earn money from your blog. If all of your blog posts are unique and useful for people, it should not take long time to get so many visitors again from your site. Remember, whatever updates Google makes, it will always give value to unique and useful contents that people like. So if you have loyal readers of your blog, you should never be afraid of loosing visitors to your site. Stick to it. You will succeed.

      Never depend on only one source of Traffic. Rather spread words about about your website all over the internet. So there can be a lot of ways from where traffic can come to your site.
      umm ... err ... lol ...
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  • Profile picture of the author salam541
    thanks 4 sharing your success story
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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    CPA offers really have potential to make big money. not kidding. The key to success, it's not just about how much money you have, it is also about what mindset you have. I am making money with CPA offers too, so what you think cause what you get. BTW, good job!
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  • Profile picture of the author scout99
    Would love to know (but don't expect you to share) what you did to get your ads for RichMen approved. FB has denied each and every one of mine! And they've all been very tame and generic. I GIVE UP!
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  • Profile picture of the author dmarseller
    Thanks for you inspirational review. I'm trying to make money but It's very difficult. xD.


    Regards!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaizen5
      Inspiring post. I also tried AM with FB Ads and direct linking to some offers like scholarships, World of Warcraft Goods, Dating and so on. But it was a total waste of time and money. I had no success with my methods and tested various types of ads for nothing. I still try to earn some money on different income streams. I hope I will have more success with two small niche sites in the future. Good Luck!
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    Good stuff man, congrats on your winnings and reaching your short-term goals!

    Check your Inbox, sent you a cool PM you might wanna check out

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  • Profile picture of the author ResultsDriven
    Congratulations man! Most people don't get it when everyone says: TEST, TEST, TEST! You did a great job though. Dating offers on POF will never go out of style.
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  • Profile picture of the author RiskTaker
    Whats the deal with "Forex" expenses, and why is Forex investments in the online business investment?
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    • Profile picture of the author ResultsDriven
      Originally Posted by RiskTaker View Post

      Whats the deal with "Forex" expenses, and why is Forex investments in the online business investment?
      The OP means that they're paying exchange rate fees for paying POF in a different currency than their native bank account's.
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  • Profile picture of the author milanopcclub
    what is your cpc
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by scout99 View Post

      Would love to know (but don't expect you to share) what you did to get your ads for RichMen approved. FB has denied each and every one of mine! And they've all been very tame and generic. I GIVE UP!
      Use a landing page.

      Originally Posted by nicktnack View Post

      Hey OP, a few more general questions. When an offer dies, do you wait for perhaps 1-2 weeks before coming back to promote it again? Also, running the offer over a weekend, I did not successfully manage to scale it. For example:

      Day 1: $50 budget split between 2 campaigns, 25-25 and I got 90% ROI
      Day 2: $100 budget split between 2 campaigns, 50-50 and I got 35% ROI

      Is it always a hit and miss and how much you would say I should use as a budget to profit better on the weekends?
      I haven't created separate campaigns for weekends. I just meant, overall, weekends perform better for dating ads.

      Budget, as much as you can. It really depends how much you want to spend on an ad or campaign.

      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      Good stuff man, congrats on your winnings and reaching your short-term goals!

      Check your Inbox, sent you a cool PM you might wanna check out

      Nick
      I need 50 post count to reply to PMs. Will email you later .

      Originally Posted by milanopcclub View Post

      what is your cpc
      1/4 of my EPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author CallawayItIs
    Thanks OP for the inspirational post. I'm sure this will give Warriors some motivation to take action!
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  • Profile picture of the author uzumaki
    This is what I'm looking for, great inspiration for CPA starters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
    thank you for this post
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    1,test,test and test
    2,never give up
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    • Profile picture of the author JacMer
      Great job PM - Inspiration is a good thing
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      Thanks for the inspiration, its always nice to see other people helping others out. Keep up the good work
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    • Profile picture of the author GAldane
      Great work! Having been in the CPA game a long time, I know it can be difficult sometimes but when it works...look out!

      And oh yeah, POF is goldmine if you know how to work it with dating offers
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      • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
        Originally Posted by womendollars View Post

        Are you doing this with a PPS/CPA at $30+ or a email submit/zip at much less? Also, would you recommend masking a url with a domain or framing it in an html page with hosting?
        Dating offers as stated in OP.
        Check with your AM, many offers don't allow it.

        Originally Posted by womendollars View Post

        Are you direct linking for deals? Can I just fwd a domain or frame on with an existing LP on the offer that the network offers?
        You can do anything you want as long as the offer allows it.

        Originally Posted by GAldane View Post


        And oh yeah, POF is goldmine if you know how to work it with dating offers
        Sure is.
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  • Profile picture of the author ResultsDriven
    I have a question for you, how do you feel running dating on FB compared to running them on POF? (I've used POF, just not for dating offers)
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  • Profile picture of the author bergeny
    congrates , i heard many stories of trial and success in here ,please tell me do you have a nother income ??
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  • Profile picture of the author BILLSBILLION
    Congratulation on your success,you have a right mindset and you will prosper a lot!Can you please share with us --
    -Which Networks are you working with.
    -How do you make your landing pages(this is my mental block),any advice on this will be helpfull.
    -Which hosting services are you using.
    -and are you member of any paid forum?
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  • Profile picture of the author iknowhow
    Hey PuffMatic , great post anbd thanks for shring your experience!

    Couple questions. What tool/software do you use to create quality LPs? Do you create a site on new domain per campaign or do you have a single generic dating site where you build LPs for all your 10 dating campaigns?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author iknowhow
    Hey PuffMatic, great post and thanks for sharing your expertise!
    Couple questions. What software or tool do you use to create your LPs and how long it takes per LP (provided you have all the ad copy and graphics at hand)?
    Do you use 1 generic dating domain to host all your 10 campaigns or do you create a keyword-rich domain per campaing?

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    It's pretty fascinating that WF can literally be your one and only resource to learn how to do nearly every path in Internet Marketing. May take some digging, but there is really a tremendous amount of value here!

    Pretty exciting stuff!
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  • Profile picture of the author spmarketer
    Wow! Great story.. Keep it up and hope it continues. I am new to CPA and I sent you a PM here. I left my email so you can respond. Look forward to hearing from you.
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  • Profile picture of the author baliboy
    thanks for your share.. hope I can follow what you reach...lol..
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  • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
    Hey, is there a trend where your weekday FB campaigns don't do well? I convert really well on the weekends but the past 2 days has been kinda low right now, even with a fresh batch of ads.

    Any tips to refresh the campaigns to bring back up the conversion rate?
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    Awesome, Congrats.
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  • Profile picture of the author xphiltre
    Very inspiring post

    I have been trying out CPA marketing using 7search and overall it is profitable, but the search volume for some of the offers I promote are just way too low for me to scale it. So I tried to replicate the same ads on Facebook but they just keep rejecting me with generic errors and it's really frustrating!

    Can I know if your ads perform better on FB or PoF overall? Cause I'm thinking of trying out PoF but unsure if I should just continue to try more on FB first. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author cathyanderson
    This thread is just such an inspiration to everyone here! I am so happy for your success! I have been looking into cpa and ppc for a while but I haven't taken the leap. I wanted to get some more training because I know you can lose money. That's part of the "risk" involved with IM.
    Again, Congrats!!!
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    really inspiriting!!! I'm planning to touch on the CPA field and it's good to see someone willing to share their success stories here
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  • Profile picture of the author dswconsulting
    I'm in the same reading phase you were in a month ago. What case studies really seemed to help you fully grasp the AM subject? Did you read mostly case studies from WF?
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  • Profile picture of the author Eutaw
    Lots of info. Look forward to hearing more about your success.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kaizen5
      Wow this is great an very inspiring. I hope you share more excellent case studies like these with us in future. I still work on a strategy to market dating sites in a similar way.

      Have you got some recommendations or experiences which datig site works best?

      Good Luck and more Success in the Future
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    Great stuff here, thx for taking the time to post and share with others- it DOES help!
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    good story bro.. there is always a bad experience in IM. that experience makes us stronger.
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by ResultsDriven View Post

      I have a question for you, how do you feel running dating on FB compared to running them on POF? (I've used POF, just not for dating offers)
      PoF is 100 times easier to master than FB. FB is a beast and it takes time (and money) to master it.

      Originally Posted by BILLSBILLION View Post

      Congratulation on your success,you have a right mindset and you will prosper a lot!Can you please share with us --
      -Which Networks are you working with.
      -How do you make your landing pages(this is my mental block),any advice on this will be helpfull.
      -Which hosting services are you using.
      -and are you member of any paid forum?
      I am on almost all the big networks. NB, EWA, MB, C2M etc.
      I use DreamWeaver.
      I use 100TB.com
      Yes.


      Originally Posted by iknowhow View Post

      Hey PuffMatic , great post anbd thanks for shring your experience!

      Couple questions. What tool/software do you use to create quality LPs? Do you create a site on new domain per campaign or do you have a single generic dating site where you build LPs for all your 10 dating campaigns?

      thanks
      Dreamweaver and PhotoShop. I have a basic template setup and change it for different offers. I will make a new LP if my angle requires it.
      Originally Posted by nicktnack View Post

      Hey, is there a trend where your weekday FB campaigns don't do well? I convert really well on the weekends but the past 2 days has been kinda low right now, even with a fresh batch of ads.

      Any tips to refresh the campaigns to bring back up the conversion rate?
      Try split testing the same offer with a different networks. Might be the scrub.
      Use a different offer if you have to.
      Originally Posted by dswconsulting View Post

      I'm in the same reading phase you were in a month ago. What case studies really seemed to help you fully grasp the AM subject? Did you read mostly case studies from WF?
      Yes. Look around the forum - there is a ton of good info here but as Kenster said, it requires some digging.
      Originally Posted by Kaizen5 View Post

      Wow this is great an very inspiring. I hope you share more excellent case studies like these with us in future. I still work on a strategy to market dating sites in a similar way.

      Have you got some recommendations or experiences which datig site works best?

      Good Luck and more Success in the Future
      I have posted 3 good offers that converted for me in the OP.
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      • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
        Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

        Try split testing the same offer with a different networks. Might be the scrub.
        Use a different offer if you have to.
        Thanks OP, I'm actually coming along well with a offer on FB so far (the weekends at least) but I'm still far from scaling it. If you don't mind me asking, how are you scaling your best campaigns for profit? Do you just ramp up the budget?
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        • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
          Originally Posted by nicktnack View Post

          Thanks OP, I'm actually coming along well with a offer on FB so far (the weekends at least) but I'm still far from scaling it. If you don't mind me asking, how are you scaling your best campaigns for profit? Do you just ramp up the budget?
          When I get a feel for CTR of the ad, I put the bids at $2-$3 per click. I never end up paying that much amount but I get the volume. If you have .1 % CTR and bid $2, you will get $0.10-0.70 CPC depending on the country.
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          • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
            Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

            When I get a feel for CTR of the ad, I put the bids at $2-$3 per click. I never end up paying that much amount but I get the volume. If you have .1 % CTR and bid $2, you will get $0.10-0.70 CPC depending on the country.
            That's new. Never thought to try that strategy before. I always assumed increasing the budget would also increase conversions for FB ads but this isn't always the case. For example, sometimes my daily ad spend of $50 gets more conversions than a $100 ad spend on the same weekend. I'll try it on an existing high CTR ad and see how it goes.
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  • Profile picture of the author ashcornejo
    What's peguin? And forex. && congrats! I know its true cause I work with people on my team of Internet marketers who all make 40k $ plus a month!! I'm hitting 200$ a monh but I just started! && still learning SEO and all that crazy stuff. I LOVEe working from home. Never going back to stupid 9-5s
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  • Profile picture of the author MrGelin
    Thank you for the inspiration. I am gretful. - Aspiring IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author morpheoz
    Great stuff, very inspiring.

    Time to get back on the horse.
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    how mutch spend to facebook ads?
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    • Profile picture of the author mptrading
      Very inspiring post as others have said, so inspiring I've been at it trying to get some dating offers to conversion. So far nothing, focusing on US & Italy on a few different offers, just haven't found that one, or haven't gotten enough clicks maybe.

      Since you've been great in answering questions, here's some more;
      Are You doing payperleads, paypersale, paypersignup? if ppl is it soi or doi?
      also how many clicks til you saw your first conversion and what's your average conversion rate?

      I just feel like I'm tossing money out the window right now and could use any bit of guidance you can offer, thanks.


      and btw I was looking at true.com since you mentioned it and found this unfortunate article:

      True.com Bankrupt and Owes $100M

      performinsider. com/2012/08/true-com-bankrupt-and-owes-100m/ (space b4 the com, since I can;t post links yet :-\ )
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      • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
        Originally Posted by mptrading View Post

        Very inspiring post as others have said, so inspiring I've been at it trying to get some dating offers to conversion. So far nothing, focusing on US & Italy on a few different offers, just haven't found that one, or haven't gotten enough clicks maybe.

        Since you've been great in answering questions, here's some more;
        Are You doing payperleads, paypersale, paypersignup? if ppl is it soi or doi?
        also how many clicks til you saw your first conversion and what's your average conversion rate?

        I just feel like I'm tossing money out the window right now and could use any bit of guidance you can offer, thanks.


        and btw I was looking at true.com since you mentioned it and found this unfortunate article:

        True.com Bankrupt and Owes $100M

        performinsider. com/2012/08/true-com-bankrupt-and-owes-100m/ (space b4 the com, since I can;t post links yet :- )
        I only promote CPL offers, DOI and SOI.
        Depends on how good the offer is and how good my ads are. I get anywhere between 4%-10% CR on a direct linked offer. That means you should get a conversion for every 25 clicks if your ads are good.

        There are many other offers than True.com. Try them out.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashwin83
          Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

          I only promote CPL offers, DOI and SOI.
          so that means you're not doing the dating offers anymore?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ericparke
    Awesome work! Best post Ive seen on the warrior forum
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineAddict
    This looks like a cheap advertising from a facebook employee. Isn't facebook sending bots instead of real visitors? I have read more stories like that compared to successful facebook ads stories.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicktnack
      Originally Posted by OnlineAddict View Post

      This looks like a cheap advertising from a facebook employee. Isn't facebook sending bots instead of real visitors? I have read more stories like that compared to successful facebook ads stories.
      Oh right. And the leads generated are from bots? I'm getting paid by bots that sign up for my ad? I would love it if 'FaceBook bots' could generate leads for me and still get me paid. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author mshajid
    Great post I was inspired with your post Well Facebook Advertisement campaigns are working
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  • Profile picture of the author DomainerMatt
    Nice post.. interesting read. I have been interested in AM before but I've never had the guts to invest money in advertising.. I mean you said you spent $5k in advertising, starting with about $100 per day? I'd like to give it a shot, just don't want to invest $100 a day yet. Maybe one day! Congratulations with your success!
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  • Profile picture of the author Meesta
    I do have to admit, this is a very inspirational thread! Congratulations OP on making your first amount of bank.
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  • Profile picture of the author mitchmelkonian
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    This is some seriously good info mate. Instead of releasing a wso you gave this away for free. I have seen people (lurking in wf for long) that they take one simple method and make it a wso. But you gave it away for free. Seriously good stuff here! Congrats!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yildiz
    Thanks OP for the inspirational post. I'm sure this will give Warriors some motivation to take action!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blackman
    Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post




    I would be happy to answer your questions as long as you don't ask me for LPs, ad copies and targeting .
    Hi PuffMatic,
    since i read your inspiration article I would like to ask you 2-3 questions about Findmelove/Date-connected if possible :

    -do they approve e-mail marketing ?
    -I have the possibility to re-direct huge not targeted traffic directly to their affiliate tracking link (if its a good idea I need your opinion)
    - Do I have to create landing page and to put the link there and then to start advertising by my methods ?

    Thanks in advance.
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  • Profile picture of the author ahmar2
    Thanks a lot for this inspiring posts. I am new to CPA and threads like this will definitely help me to get most out of this business
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  • Profile picture of the author pjayaswal
    Great post.... Congrats on your success.... Way to go!
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  • Profile picture of the author Blade Runner 77
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mptrading View Post
    Very inspiring post as others have said, so inspiring I've been at it trying to get some dating offers to conversion. So far nothing, focusing on US & Italy on a few different offers, just haven't found that one, or haven't gotten enough clicks maybe.

    Since you've been great in answering questions, here's some more;
    Are You doing payperleads, paypersale, paypersignup? if ppl is it soi or doi?
    also how many clicks til you saw your first conversion and what's your average conversion rate?

    I just feel like I'm tossing money out the window right now and could use any bit of guidance you can offer, thanks.


    and btw I was looking at true.com since you mentioned it and found this unfortunate article:

    True.com Bankrupt and Owes $100M

    performinsider. com/2012/08/true-com-bankrupt-and-owes-100m/ (space b4 the com, since I can;t post links yet :- )
    I only promote CPL offers, DOI and SOI.
    Depends on how good the offer is and how good my ads are. I get anywhere between 4%-10% CR on a direct linked offer. That means you should get a conversion for every 25 clicks if your ads are good.

    There are many other offers than True.com. Try them out.

    Hi Puffmatic and responders too, very interesting all.
    Can some one explain these terms please?
    'I only promote CPL offers, DOI and SOI.'
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    • Profile picture of the author mptrading
      Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88 View Post

      Can some one explain these terms please?
      'I only promote CPL offers, DOI and SOI.'
      CPL: Cost Per Lead, meaning your advertiser(affiliate network, unles working direct with the company) pays you per signup, not actual purchase, or it is generally the case.

      which is different from CPA, which is Cost Per Action, which generally means the amount your affiliate pays you when someone pays for something, be it a product/service/whatever, they have to put money in your advertisers hand.

      SOI/DOI: refers to email signups, Single Opt-In & Double Opt-In. SOI is when you pop your e-mail in and you're registered w/o confirmation, DOI is the same but you have to confirm your e-mail address to finish the offer, and this is when you're click turns into an actual converting lead.
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    thank you for this post
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  • Profile picture of the author CPAleadJeremy
    Inspirational story!

    Keep up the great work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Exel
    Great thread, PuffMatic. CPA has always looked interesting and lucrative to me and plan on getting into it soon. This kind of threads helps a lot. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author pikerones
    PuffMatic

    Hello!
    can you link us which warriorforum treads was most helpful for you.
    it will help us

    thank you for sharing your success!

    Regards,
    Pikerones
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    • Profile picture of the author pikerones
      Originally Posted by pikerones View Post

      PuffMatic

      Hello!
      can you link us which warriorforum treads was most helpful for you.
      it will help us

      thank you for sharing your success!

      Regards,
      Pikerones
      can you help us?))
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    REALLY NICE GOOD WORK
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    Do you use a lander to build your email list and then promote them over and over again or just a gateway to the offer?
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    may i know in which service you are using to get that earning?

    I am asking that cause i am frustrating after banned from adsense
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  • Profile picture of the author Topper99
    I only saw one reference to directcpv. What kind of luck have you had with directcpv?

    Thanks!!
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  • Profile picture of the author newbie_warrior
    do you have any mailing list I can subscribe to, to get more information on what you are doing?
    Or maybe a personal blog you constantly post to?
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    From which affiliate is this pic?

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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by newbie_warrior View Post

      do you have any mailing list I can subscribe to, to get more information on what you are doing?
      Or maybe a personal blog you constantly post to?
      Not at the moment.

      Originally Posted by pikerones View Post

      From which affiliate is this pic?

      You will know if you can read.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scrape
    Wow! WTF! That what f*ckng amazing. I think I will go with paid traffic now
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  • I use affiliate links on my websites, but get nothing like that return from them. After reading this thread, I'm going to have to spend a week or so reading up more about how best to utilize these affiliate accounts as obviously I could earn a living from them, as opposed to the few quid pocket money I currently make from them.
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  • Profile picture of the author MilkerFocus
    The Key Question is Which Angle ( Interest ) you are using?
    Which Type of Picture do you use? Style?
    Which age range are you target to?
    I know if you tell us, you may lost some benefit.
    But just give us some tips.
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  • Profile picture of the author ajitam
    A great success story! I like reading such matters! I hope that you will soon read my success story. I am working hard on it
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  • Profile picture of the author Emmanuel Sopitan
    Great and interesting. Well done. Would you not think the just concluded london 2012 olympic plays a major role as a factor? Just an observation but all good.
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  • Profile picture of the author spmarketer
    I am a newbie and I know this might be a dumb question to you all but.... How do you advertise on POF or I should say a specific site? Did you just have it on your signature or how do you advertise to a specific site?
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    Amazing story! Congrats on not giving up also...
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    congratulation, well done.
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    Thank you for sharing you story, it was very inspiring.
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  • Profile picture of the author KEEPn TRYn
    Good story Puffmatic!

    How do you think you would have done it if your coudn't have afforded the paid advertizing? I really am a "trying to be" bum marketer.
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    Congrats on your success. Image testing can be annoying with FB traffic but when you get a winner it can get going fast. Great job!
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  • Profile picture of the author womendollars
    Are you doing this with a PPS/CPA at $30+ or a email submit/zip at much less? Also, would you recommend masking a url with a domain or framing it in an html page with hosting?
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  • Profile picture of the author womendollars
    Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

    A bit of history about me. I have a good established blog in tech niche that was earning me nice $1200-$1500 a month. It was doing good in all the Panda and Penguin updates until the May 25 Penguin update where I lost 80% of the traffic and earnings. It was a big eye-opener for me. I am (was) not a big fan of having multiple small blogs and thought I would make it big with just 1 blog.

    So, starting May 26, I looked into different ways of making money. 1 way was to make multiple niche blogs and the other one, Affiliate Marketing with paid traffic. I choose the later for 2 reasons:

    1) Instant Results
    2) Unlimited money making potential

    So ahead I went and started reading everything I could about AM. I quickly found WarriorForum and am glad that I did. I went ahead and read almost every thread in this sub-forum for about a week. There's so much knowledge on this forum that if you stick with just 1 method, you will make bank pretty easily. I joined a few other forums too and read everything I could lay my hands on. I know that taking action is the best learning experience but I needed to make sure how everything works and how to track and optimize stuff before-hand.

    I started with facebook ads on 11 June 2012 but was really disappointed at the start. I chose dating vertical and all my ads got disapproved every single day for 7 days straight. I would submit ads in the morning, wait for them to approve till noon and submit more ads and wait for approval till the evening. I never saw 1 ad approved in that entire week and boy was I frustrated. Which brings us to June the 18th. My entire batch of about 30 ads got approved. I submitted more ads based on them and got the total of about 300 ads in 10 different campaigns. I resumed all ads right away and set daily budget to $20 on each campaign which is $200 for the entire day. The first day went without a conversion. I spent only $105 mostly because I was bidding a bit lower than what FB recommended. On the second day, I decided to up my bids and paused all campaigns but one. I put it at $200 daily budget and put the bids at $0.68 CPC. I saw 2 conversions 20 minutes in and was so happy to realize the '+' sign in Prosper202 actually changes to a '$' sign when you get a conversion. Happy moment. I have no idea why changing the bids had an affect on conversions but I never changed them on that campaign afterwards. (or maybe a different day was converting different, no idea though.)

    I saw 2 more conversions in the rest of the day but nothing fancy. Spent total $100 and made $22 back. This was before any optimization and I knew I could make it profitable (reading all those case studies really helps). Second day ended with almost break-even. Spent $100 to make $98. It has been an exciting ride ever since. I made more campaigns, added more offers and in the coming month started doing PoF ads. I was just checking my various accounts and have made $21090.50 since I started running ads on 18 June 2012. Not bad for first 40 days huh?

    Now, I know most people here don't like revenue figures so I am going to post ad spend and profit too. And for ADHD readers, here is a nice little TL; DR for you.

    Date Started: 18/June/2012
    Traffic Sources: Facebook and PlentyOfFish
    First Profit day: 21 June 2012 ($3 profit)
    First $100 day (revenue): 1 July 2012
    First $1000 day (revenue): July 25 2012
    Total Spent in ads: $5,186.30 (Around $5300 after adding the Forex fees)
    Total Profit: ~14800 after deducting hosting and other expenses.
    Vertical: Dating
    Best offers: FindMeLove, Richmen, True.com

    I am so glad my blog was hit by penguin. I wouldn't have tried AM otherwise and would have never gotten 10 month's worth of profit in just 1 month. WarriorForums and some of the members here really helped to make a big difference in my success. Salute to everyone especially my Affiliate managers, without whom this would never have been possible.

    I didn't make this thread to brag. I simply made it because maybe some of you need a bit of push and to know what really is possible. I am not a smart guy and am actually pretty far from it (otherwise I would have started doing AM a lot earlier ) and if I can do it, anyone can. Just keep believing and keep taking risks. When I spent my first $100 on FB ads, I had no intention of seeing anything in return (which actually happened) and this helped me in spending more the next day. If I had gotten scared after losing the $100, I would have never made profit in the next few days and would have easily given up. This would have really wasted the $100 ad spend.

    Really looking forward to the coming months and see how everything pans out.

    I would be happy to answer your questions as long as you don't ask me for LPs, ad copies and targeting .
    Are you direct linking for deals? Can I just fwd a domain or frame on with an existing LP on the offer that the network offers?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    wow that's really amazing that you got those results...good job. Yeah prosper is awesome at tracking conversions and knowing where your traffic is coming from.
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  • Profile picture of the author RUGI
    I appreciated your information would appreciate that you advise as to Placing Ads. I have been researching but did not come to that method. I was under the impression one can use one's website to promote products. But the how of the multiple campaigns is not clear. All that I understood is you put and paid for individual ads manually. Please kindly explain. If you are also knowledgeable about pay per lead (email or contacts) campaigns would love to learn and willing to pay you.
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  • Profile picture of the author helpwz
    after read your story,I'm very exciting,hope you'll persist
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  • Profile picture of the author HostWind
    These stories are far and few between but it looks like you are part of the 1% that took the action and made it happen. A big congratulations!
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  • Profile picture of the author Abo Yossi
    Originally Posted by PuffMatic View Post

    A bit of history about me. I have a good established blog in tech niche that was earning me nice $1200-$1500 a month. It was doing good in all the Panda and Penguin updates until the May 25 Penguin update where I lost 80% of the traffic and earnings. It was a big eye-opener for me. I am (was) not a big fan of having multiple small blogs and thought I would make it big with just 1 blog.

    So, starting May 26, I looked into different ways of making money. 1 way was to make multiple niche blogs and the other one, Affiliate Marketing with paid traffic. I choose the later for 2 reasons:

    1) Instant Results
    2) Unlimited money making potential

    So ahead I went and started reading everything I could about AM. I quickly found WarriorForum and am glad that I did. I went ahead and read almost every thread in this sub-forum for about a week. There's so much knowledge on this forum that if you stick with just 1 method, you will make bank pretty easily. I joined a few other forums too and read everything I could lay my hands on. I know that taking action is the best learning experience but I needed to make sure how everything works and how to track and optimize stuff before-hand.

    I started with facebook ads on 11 June 2012 but was really disappointed at the start. I chose dating vertical and all my ads got disapproved every single day for 7 days straight. I would submit ads in the morning, wait for them to approve till noon and submit more ads and wait for approval till the evening. I never saw 1 ad approved in that entire week and boy was I frustrated. Which brings us to June the 18th. My entire batch of about 30 ads got approved. I submitted more ads based on them and got the total of about 300 ads in 10 different campaigns. I resumed all ads right away and set daily budget to $20 on each campaign which is $200 for the entire day. The first day went without a conversion. I spent only $105 mostly because I was bidding a bit lower than what FB recommended. On the second day, I decided to up my bids and paused all campaigns but one. I put it at $200 daily budget and put the bids at $0.68 CPC. I saw 2 conversions 20 minutes in and was so happy to realize the '+' sign in Prosper202 actually changes to a '$' sign when you get a conversion. Happy moment. I have no idea why changing the bids had an affect on conversions but I never changed them on that campaign afterwards. (or maybe a different day was converting different, no idea though.)

    I saw 2 more conversions in the rest of the day but nothing fancy. Spent total $100 and made $22 back. This was before any optimization and I knew I could make it profitable (reading all those case studies really helps). Second day ended with almost break-even. Spent $100 to make $98. It has been an exciting ride ever since. I made more campaigns, added more offers and in the coming month started doing PoF ads. I was just checking my various accounts and have made $21090.50 since I started running ads on 18 June 2012. Not bad for first 40 days huh?

    Now, I know most people here don't like revenue figures so I am going to post ad spend and profit too. And for ADHD readers, here is a nice little TL; DR for you.

    Date Started: 18/June/2012
    Traffic Sources: Facebook and PlentyOfFish
    First Profit day: 21 June 2012 ($3 profit)
    First $100 day (revenue): 1 July 2012
    First $1000 day (revenue): July 25 2012
    Total Spent in ads: $5,186.30 (Around $5300 after adding the Forex fees)
    Total Profit: ~14800 after deducting hosting and other expenses.
    Vertical: Dating
    Best offers: FindMeLove, Richmen, True.com

    I am so glad my blog was hit by penguin. I wouldn't have tried AM otherwise and would have never gotten 10 month's worth of profit in just 1 month. WarriorForums and some of the members here really helped to make a big difference in my success. Salute to everyone especially my Affiliate managers, without whom this would never have been possible.

    I didn't make this thread to brag. I simply made it because maybe some of you need a bit of push and to know what really is possible. I am not a smart guy and am actually pretty far from it (otherwise I would have started doing AM a lot earlier ) and if I can do it, anyone can. Just keep believing and keep taking risks. When I spent my first $100 on FB ads, I had no intention of seeing anything in return (which actually happened) and this helped me in spending more the next day. If I had gotten scared after losing the $100, I would have never made profit in the next few days and would have easily given up. This would have really wasted the $100 ad spend.

    Really looking forward to the coming months and see how everything pans out.

    I would be happy to answer your questions as long as you don't ask me for LPs, ad copies and targeting .
    congratulations for your success and keep going....
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  • Profile picture of the author t0113k
    thanks it realy help me...
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryon Cook
    Thanks for the post.
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  • Profile picture of the author gtone
    I am so encouraged by your story. Thank you so much for sharing your success story. I have been trying CPA myself and different ad on facebook but because they were not converting, I left it. But I will go back and try it again. And this time I will succeed.

    Thank you again.
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  • Profile picture of the author koppster
    Everyone appreciate a success it is what motivates everyone.
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  • Profile picture of the author newbie_warrior
    Do you also split test even the interest? Or do you put a bunch (more than 10) of specific interests that is related to the offer in this case dating? Or do you just use 1 very generic interest and just split test on the other demo component like age, country, sex etc..???

    This interest part is tricky for me right now...

    Also what is a good CTR to start making maybe a 100% ROI? 0.3%?? Assuming you get paid $5 per lead or whatever is the payout in the dating niche..
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  • Profile picture of the author juntenx
    wow how can .. please teach
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  • Profile picture of the author Vitico809
    Very great post PuffMatic, highly motivating. Im planing on starting on POF soon, my question is how do find international traffic (i guess US is super competitive), is there decent volume outside the states? Do they convert well in international countries?
    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rob3rts
    Not good if you havent got $5k to spend tho right>
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    • Profile picture of the author PuffMatic
      Originally Posted by newbie_warrior View Post

      Do you also split test even the interest? Or do you put a bunch (more than 10) of specific interests that is related to the offer in this case dating? Or do you just use 1 very generic interest and just split test on the other demo component like age, country, sex etc..???

      This interest part is tricky for me right now...

      Also what is a good CTR to start making maybe a 100% ROI? 0.3%?? Assuming you get paid $5 per lead or whatever is the payout in the dating niche..
      It depends on how good your ads are. For example a risque ad will get a lot of clicks but not much CR. At the same time, an ad that tells people what to do will get a good CR but not a good CTR. You have to find a mixture of both.

      Personally, my best campaigns have been with ~0.1% CTR.


      Originally Posted by Vitico809 View Post

      Very great post PuffMatic, highly motivating. Im planing on starting on POF soon, my question is how do find international traffic (i guess US is super competitive), is there decent volume outside the states? Do they convert well in international countries?
      Thanks.
      There is good volume internationally and it has been easier to convert for me. My guess is that international traffic hasn't been bombarded with all those free iPad and dating ads yet.

      Originally Posted by Rob3rts View Post

      Not good if you havent got $5k to spend tho right>
      We all start at the bottom. I started with a $50 limit account and currently have two $5K limit accounts.
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