You are more of a CPA Ninja than you know!!!

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So I have been doing CPA since my first days online and have taught family, friends, and strangers how to put together successful campaigns.

One thing that always amazes me when I speak to CPAers is that they know SO MUCH more than they think they know yet they don't actually implement what they know.

For example...

I will go over somebody's campaign after they claim it's a loser. The landing page looks okay and their overall setup of the campaign looks okay. However, they didn't do a single split test of the lander and didn't weed out clear loser keywords (if applicable). People know that optimization and tracking is uber important but they don't do it. You know more than you think but it's super important to actually implement what you know.

So my question...why is there such a disconnect here?

Here is my advice...for your next campaign...do the whole process like you know you should be doing it. Don't take any shortcuts. Do the research, do the tracking, do the testing, do more testing, and more. ONLY then should you get frustrated if your campaigns never work out

~Kenster :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Tocholke
    I do that exactly. I'm actually so close the hitting positive ROI but the split testing phase intimidates me. I don't know what I should be changing on the lander or ad. Do you make a major change and go from there? Or do you just keep making tiny changes and tweaks at a time? I'm also scared that by the time I get the campaign optimized the offer will be dead. My offers dont seem to last long. I get a couple days with good conversions then it completely dies.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeMorgan
    Nice tips Ken .

    As far as paid advertising is concerned ...testing is very critical . It is hard to know what until you test it .

    The whole is first identify parameters for a certain campaign and test everything until you get winner .

    For instance , Let's take PPV ...

    The main parameters in PPV marketing are the targets , Landing pages and Offers . First you need to test combnantion of targtes , variation of landing pages and offers . Run your testes for certain period of time and cut of poor performing targets , offers and landing pages and focus on the winners .

    I also want to point out that the vast majority don't test angles .
    Let me tell you the truth angles are the most important thing that you really need to test .
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    • Profile picture of the author thesilvershield
      Originally Posted by Mike Morgan. View Post

      Nice tips Ken .

      As far as paid advertising is concerned ...testing is very critical . It is hard to know what until you test it .

      The whole is first identify parameters for a certain campaign and test everything until you get winner .

      For instance , Let's take PPV ...

      The main parameters in PPV marketing are the targets , Landing pages and Offers . First you need to test combnantion of targtes , variation of landing pages and offers . Run your testes for certain period of time and cut of poor performing targets , offers and landing pages and focus on the winners .

      I also want to point out that the vast majority don't test angles .
      Let me tell you the truth angles are the most important thing that you really need to test .
      Could you please give a little detail about how you test angles?
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  • Profile picture of the author Parry
    Great post by Kenster! Optimizing campaigns is the only way to profit from them. Most people give up before they do a single test of their campaign.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Parry View Post

      Great post by Kenster! Optimizing campaigns is the only way to profit from them. Most people give up before they do a single test of their campaign.

      Absolutely true. People know that it's super hard to find a winning campaign before optimization but they still seek that campaign. It's a better idea to find a campaign that shows potential (even if it's still a loser) and then optimize the heck out of the campaign and turn it into a winner.

      Must easier to go that route!
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  • Profile picture of the author harrysehgal12
    Kenster can you pm me your mail or contact details. I need to ask you something regarding cpa. You can add me on skype- harrysehgal
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Smith
    Awesome post Ken!

    You are right. If you are not testing and tracking then you are not going to have the opportunity to monetize your campaigns or running offers.

    I do it for EVERYTHING...but I am a numbers guy. Numbers matter in marketing and if you are not using them then you are leaving money on the table. SIMPLE FACT!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Absolutely correct Jonathan...I'm a numbers guy too so it's fun, but even if you're not, you need to suck it up and just do it! Numbers matter!
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  • Profile picture of the author johny53
    Pretty much exactly what we do; great results thus far.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasontim86
    Yea alot of people give up after they "tested" different headlines, or bullet points, and say it doesn't work, and that they have "tested" it.

    Well if you ask me, the sequence should be "TEST ANGLES FIRST, THEN TEST LANDERS".

    First you come out with different angles say if you're promoting ringtones, you can test
    1) Musics (people that love a certain artists)
    2) Movies (movie sound tracks anyone?)
    3) Games (Angry bird. weeeeeeeee~)

    Then say when you find "Movies" angle is actually working better, then work on split testing different headlines and copy for the landers..

    But to make it short, testing is the lifeline of our business, knowing WHAT to test in sequence also makes a huge enough impact to speed up the profitability search.
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