i'm shocked by plenty of fish!!!

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i submitted my first ad on plenty of fish yesterday it was a dating offer and after 24 hours my ads status went from pending approval to needs creatives i made some changes and ran it again same thing has happened again i changed that offer with another dating offer..within a minute after submitting the ad the ads status went from pending to running and within a minute i had 46617 imps and 24 clicks with zero conversion and burned $ 25 just like that does this usually happens or there is something went wrong with my ad? i still believe that my ad didn't run long enough to have that much impressions.
what are your thoughts guys on this?
#ad networks (cpm/cpl, display) #fish #plenty #shocked
  • people live on that site!
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  • mr finnj i know people live on that site that is why i'm advertising on it but what are you trying to say?
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    • well IMO reason was high bid , And To be honest i like to burn my testing budget as fast as i can so i can have initial data .... In your case i guess your creatives were not attractive enough to get good number of clicks ?
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  • Sounds like you had a high bid and very little targeting, maybe try to tighten your targeting
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    • crisba the suggested bid was .40 to .80 and i chose 50 was that a bad decision? how much bid do you usually start with? plus my targeting was way higher than usually i targeted 3 countries at the same time lol silly me .but is okay i have learnt a good lesson and gain confidence along the way.
    • I guess you are right brother
  • seems you have bad ctr. try to review your landing page and targeted keyword.
  • Does PoF only offer PPV? Or do they also have a PPC model? Also, is there a minimum deposit/budget I must invest to try with them? Thanks guys.
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    • The last time I visited PoF they requested a $1,000 upfront deposit so I ran away. Don't know if this changed.

      My question for this Forum is: did somebody made a good ROI in PoF?
      If so, can you roughly inform the figures?
    • Does anyone know if there is a minimum?
  • cheaper ways to use PoF lol good luck with the ppc
  • You must have set your ad for instant distribution. Had you set it to "evenly", it wouldn't have happened.
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    • no trevor i set for distribute evenly. the problem was i targeted to large audience.
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  • My suggestion is rise your bid at your next testing, I find better CTR with bidding higher but again if your ad copy not perform well then you will burn money faster
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    • my bid was .50 ten cents more than the suggested bid are you saying i should rise more? plus pof is very much restrictive than i expected they don't approve ads with revealing pictures they give way too much lame excuses to reject your ad sometimes they go like "your ad text is sexual and 100% percent free" has this ever happened to one of your ads? and what kind of images do you use for your ad?
  • I'm not an expert in POF but do have some experience. My guess is you have too broad target audience and too high bid. Why don't you try lowering your bid? The last time I placed a bid there, I set it at $0.20 with very narrow target (country, gender, age, marital status, number of login, etc).

    From my understanding, as you request more targeted audience, you would pay higher bid. Oh, and my above bid give me 6-10 clicks for only $1.5 though my creatives (yes, it's plural) are quite plain.


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    • Hi Nubitol, I guess that by now you got some more clicks over there.
      Are you promoting more than one product in PoF?
      Did you reach some sales conversions so far?
      Thank you
  • @Thair - What kind of offers are you promoting?
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  • dont worry it happens when it get things going for the first time. if you bid high and also go braod, you will burn budget lot quicker. you need to target your audience properly. Try to digg in as much as possible. Start bidding low, if no impression then slowly increase your bid,

    Try multiple creatives with images, adcopy and description. kills those ads quickly which get no to less clicks. give them few thousand impression if not no good then its time to kill.
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    • thanks aminur biding high and targeting much higher audience was the mistake i made luckily i didn't pay too much price for it $25 is nothing compared to what i have learned.
  • Erhm ... this is how advertising works. You try a traffic source, blow some money, see if it converts. If not, you can either tweak and see if things improve (on your website or on your PPC campaign) ... or go to another traffic source alltogether. But $25 is nothing, try going through $1-2k a DAY via PPC, then we're talking serious money

    Any questions just let me know,
    Nick
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    • Hey Nick, you mean budgeting $1.000/$2,000 a day just for testing your ads?
      Obvioulsy it may work better but you must have very deep pockets man
      What if you go with $1K and for whatever reason you fail? You'll surely stop that campaign but the $1k blew away.
      I think that getting some 300/400 clicks on ad and a std conversion rate with $50 in a good network it can be enough to roughly estimate the ROI of the campaign. If you fail, then you can either make some changes to your ad and/or LP and repeat with similar budget or switch to another network (not G. Adwords I would say).
    • Time to change your style,,,,,,,,
    • $1-2k for testing alone? man, you must have rockets of money in your pocket.
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    Use more targeting. You need to specifically target a smaller audience.
  • What CTR % do you desire in order to keep an ad running? What CPC do you like for POF?

    how many impressions before you kill an ad?
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    • 0.15%CTR and above. i use cpm .and as for the impressions i kill the offer if it gets 3k impressions without a click.
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  • You need to specifically target
    you can google : Plenty of Fish Advertising Platforms VIDEO Case Study- NOOB friendly
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    • thanks buddy am definitely going to check that out.
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  • If I remember correctly, POF has a minimum of $25 or possibly $50 dollars.

    Is your offer that broad? I mean, is it for use in 30 countries like you listed? Try to limit your target, by age, sex, status (single), and maybe try one country? USA?
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    • yes the minimum deposit is still $25. you right i barely targeted more than 3 countries in that offer and the amount of impressions it received in matter of seconds was like i targeted the whole world i didn't know pof had such a huge members which is a good thing for me because i realized the half of the entire world of daters live in that site and if i target small piece of them rather than all of them i will have my hands full of money in no time
  • Get an account on Plenty of Fish and look at other people's ads see what they are doing. Come up with ways to make things better.

    Nothing is going to convert on your first try. Keep testing.

    1. Find a good offer.
    2. Build a good landing page.
    3. Find a good image for the ad.
    4. Test the hell out of it.

    Check out my free guide...

    How I Made $1,000 off Plenty of Fish | GreedReports
  • Thanks for all the chatter on this. I think we all make mistakes with new services when we use them the first time. OP is right though - his $25 education is invaluable in the long run and now that he has shared his experience we've learned on his dime too. Question, though, with 24 clicks and 0 conversions were you linking directly to a sale page or did you at least collect their contact information for dripping through your system?
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    • yes i linked directly to the offer page and i think this is the main reason they didn't sign up most of the dating sites have long form to fill and people don't like that .
  • Welcome to the ocean, my dear. If you got a little boat and even worse, little knowledge about this industry, you'll fall easily. However, if you got a big ship, there are big chances you're gonna make it.

    Get it?
  • Try being super targeted in your ad copy also. ie:

    {gender:default}
    {age:default}
    {state:default}

    By using these tags you can include the user’s gender, age, or the state they live in on your ad title or description. Here is an example:

    Title: Low Insurance Rates in {state:the US}!
    Description: We have the lowest rates for {gender:people} {age:25+}.

    This was from some dudes blog, but I keep a copy just to remind me.
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    • OK ::Insert Noob Comment now:: I have been trying out the whole POF campain with a Dating CPA. I basically wanted to know how to create more than one account after being banned, without a VPN or Private proxies. Is this possible. Like i said i am total noob so please speak to me like i am 2. I did rather well with the 1 profile i made and got over $240 in earnings so the profile i made and landing page are both great. For a test.
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    • thanks danny i will definitely use these tags in my next campaign
    • Great info Danny!
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  • That's crazy, probably super high CPC.
  • His CTR was what .36?

    If his targeting is OK and the traffic is decent, the he needs to adjust the creative.

    You cant say a creative is working if your CTR is .36% Your traffic must like your creative to work. So your traffic is either poor or your creative is not suited to the traffic.
  • You have to use all targeting options suitable for the offer that you are promoting . I also want to advice that you promote an offer which is targgted to a certain demogapohics . It is how to you exploit the power of POF ad .
  • Cpm is always about demographics if you have that option. I am very picky on cpm.
    POF used to be excellent, now customer service seems to be really bad, I wait for well over
    24 hours for an ad to go live sometimes.

    One more hint, always do your bidding at like .40 cents per thousand, and only put in about 3 dollars a day, this is easier to track and keeps you out of trouble, plus you can lower or raise you bid or change your demographics, I will also run about four ads at once for the same offer and different demographics, then tweak and combine as it goes.
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  • So many similar date ads on PoF. You really need to know lot about it and test a lot to fit in. I also burned $100 on PoF and never touched again lol. I needed to know more about it before testing which was my mistake
  • yeah dude POF rocks! You have to even out your impressions though...to 24 hours evenly. And then you must focus in on your audience...and really utilize their targeting feature...that is the key. And of course track. Once you find out the winning combination of targeting and which ads converts....blam....you can scale up and make some serious cash!
  • Make sure and change your min bid to something like .22 cpm (since your testing I'd start low and slowly raise it 0.01 every 3 days) until you get enough traffic to meet your budget

    Set your budget to distribute evenly throughout the day.

    Set your frequency to 3x limit per day (not visit!).


    Test multiple creatives, find ones that are 0.2+ ctr.
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  • Exact same thing happened to me, but with FaceBook. Try to target more accurately, eventually you will get it!
  • to be honest if you use POF for advertising, try something DIFFERENT then a dating affiliate,,I have used them before and did quite well, especially with a travel related affiliate. I've also used a clickbank aff site--based on weight loss, just trying to help
  • I know people are applauding pof, but I have used them from day one, it's not the same as the past man. They take so long to get back to you and if you change anything in your ad you have to wait to get approved again. I don't blame you.

    If you want immediate results then use trafficvance or one of the other ppv networks. Won't be as cheap.

    Even Facebook is easier to get started on cpm than pof is.
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  • Bots perhaps?
  • Target smaller demographics. Use more targeting options.
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    Actually I have also heard these things about POF. But never seen these in my eyes.
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  • I agree with hustlinsmoke try trafficvance , personaly POF is not as good as it used to be in the past. but htis is just my opinion.
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    • I guess it depends on the offer for me, PPV and POF are both their own challenges.
  • Whats the minimum deposit to get started in POF?
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    • $25... some places you may have to pay a tax.
  • $25 minimum
  • Need a better offer on the back end
  • You can lose a lot of money very quickly there. Target more tightly.
  • May be your ad is not interesting or you cannot target your audience so it happen I think,
  • You must use a good landing pages + Banners advertising attractive
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    i'm shocked by plenty of fish!!!

    i submitted my first ad on plenty of fish yesterday it was a dating offer and after 24 hours my ads status went from pending approval to needs creatives i made some changes and ran it again same thing has happened again i changed that offer with another dating offer..within a minute after submitting the ad the ads status went from pending to running and within a minute i had 46617 imps and 24 clicks with zero conversion and burned $ 25 just like that does this usually happens or there is something went wrong with my ad? i still believe that my ad didn't run long enough to have that much impressions. what are your thoughts guys on this?