Is Craigslist to CPA dead?

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Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

Thanks for your help!!
#cpa #craigslist #dead
  • Profile picture of the author crunch
    well if ur iframing that must mean that ur incentivising right? and no doubt the offer does not allow that. in that case ur gonna have to spoof the refera, knock up a legit landing page to use. that should keep your AM happy.

    Untill none of ur leads convert and the advertiser complains anyway...
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  • Craigslist is so hard to use now a days. I think you would be better off posting on myspace.com
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    • Profile picture of the author authork
      Originally Posted by GoogleSearchToday.com View Post

      Craigslist is so hard to use now a days. I think you would be better off posting on myspace.com
      Are you talking about a myspace page or myspace classifieds?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Thanks Everybody.

    Crunch: I only did 100% iframe so that I could say check this out if you want and then have a relevant domain instead of having a long affiliate link. Not incentivizing though.

    HonestBiz: Thanks, the offer is pretty useful and could be helpful. Spin off of your CL idea in your WSO. A few of the people actually emailed me back and said thanks, so it should convert on the advertisers side? Its not a fine print or stupid email submit type offer.

    Google: I will check out myspace.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloVTB
    Has anyone read the "New Acceptable Use Policy", at Neverblue? It has a paragraph about Craigslist.. basically prohibiting every activity with that page. I'm wondering if anyone still manages to get that done nevertheless..
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    • Profile picture of the author jintv
      Originally Posted by PabloVTB View Post

      Has anyone read the "New Acceptable Use Policy", at Neverblue? It has a paragraph about Craigslist.. basically prohibiting every activity with that page. I'm wondering if anyone still manages to get that done nevertheless..
      But what you can do is, instead of referring the visitor straight to the advertisers page, why dont you refer the visitor to your site it will some benefits.

      1. Your website traffic increase.
      2. Search engine rating will increase, as people who had visited your site will refer to their friends.
      3. Visitors have more offers to use from, intsead of one offer when you send them to the advertiser page.
      4. least but not last, you increase the value of your website, which you may sell if it gains so much traffic.


      Cheers ,and good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Nowimhere, I would say def get the WSO. Its 10 bucks! You should be able to make that back up in no time using any of the methods

    Lead evolution is too expensive for me too I don't mind manually getting the craigslist.org email addresses, I just have no idea how to send out a bunch since CL has filters like crazy. Perhaps there is software out there that does this???
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    • Profile picture of the author Momof2
      Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post




      That's right nowimhere, Craigslist is not dead.


      Yea if you want to make money off ebay you got to be an affiliate. It's called ebay partner network. Pays over $20 bucks per sign up! Now imagine if you had a few ebay auctions on your site and one of your visitors wanted to place a bid and they were not a member of ebay? They click on the display auction....sign up to ebay...and "Ka Ching" you get paid in your sleep!
      Isn't the ebay partner network hard to get into now? I used to be an ebay affiliate, and lost it somehow, and now they have denied me.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    The reason most won't accept cl traffic is the craigslist user was normally tricked into doing the offer. This makes for a shitty lead. Merchants don't like shitty leads, networks don't like affiliates that generate shitty leads. If you're doing it and "getting away with it" you'll get caught sooner then later. There are plenty of legit ways to generate leads without using CL.

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    • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
      Hey PPC-COACH.... Whats with the bad words man.... I agree with honestbizpro, If people on this forum start thinking they can talk like that, I don't think I would be around for very long.



      Thanks,

      Micah Rush
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe's Market
        Thanks for the info on CL. I have tried a few before without great success but after reading this will give it a try again using multiple methods.

        Thanks, Joe
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      • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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        Originally Posted by MicahF7 View Post

        Hey PPC-COACH.... Whats with the bad words man.... I agree with honestbizpro, If people on this forum start thinking they can talk like that, I don't think I would be around for very long.



        Thanks,

        Micah Rush
        I never knew shitty was so offensive. I have heard worst on television. Doesn't your coach teach you how to run job offers, on craigslist, and then run them through cpa offers on craigslist? Well if that is true than I can understand PPC-Coach word usage.
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        • Profile picture of the author MicahF7
          Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

          I never knew shitty was so offensive. I have heard worst on television. Doesn't your coach teach you how to run job offers, on craigslist, and then run them through cpa offers on craigslist? Well if that is true than I can understand PPC-Coach word usage.
          Hey Thomas, are you talking about Luke Sample?

          The answer to that would be NO. I was already making a ton of money on CL before I joined Luke... And the way I was doing it, the advertisers, networks, and myself LOVED it. So we skipped that method with his coaching.


          And NO, CL to CPA is not dead.


          Micah Rush


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    • Profile picture of the author NBN
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      The reason most won't accept cl traffic is the craigslist user was normally tricked into doing the offer. This makes for a shitty lead. Merchants don't like shitty leads, networks don't like affiliates that generate shitty leads. If you're doing it and "getting away with it" you'll get caught sooner then later. There are plenty of legit ways to generate leads without using CL.

      I get your point
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  • Profile picture of the author affiliatesmiami
    cl and craigslist is deffinetly not dead you just have to use some creative marketing ;-) I was doing about 3k per month on autopilot. I stopped because I don't want to have to buy pvas.
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  • Profile picture of the author NBN
    This sounds interesting
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  • Profile picture of the author NBN
    Can anyone recommend a good ebook to learn about this; a free one would be great, I'm tired of spending hard earned money on filler stuff that doesn't teach much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike CPAMF
    CPA networks are harsh when it comes to CL or other free classifieds, social bookmarking/networking strategies. They usually have it outlined in their TOS-s. However if you get creative and know how to fly under the radar then there's definitely some money to be made.
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  • Profile picture of the author sweetrock82
    No its not dead but you need to be careful so that you don't get banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tony Vercetti
    Definitely not dead, its possible that some niches are performing less than they were before, but there is still money to be made on CL if you are creative, and spend the time to test out different campaigns and ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author ToddieM
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    Yea it depends on what type of offer you are promoting. There are certain types of posters there that you can create an entire system around.
    Would you believe I got turned down by the eBay Partner affiliate network?
    I'd sailed through all my CPA apps, and when I saw this matching up CL to eBay buyers, I really got interested.
    Does your WSO include how to get your eBay partner app accepted?
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by John34 View Post

      Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.
      More than likely you are not tricking people to sign up which is why they are converting.
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    • Profile picture of the author SFranklin
      Originally Posted by John34 View Post

      Craiglist is not dead and anyone saying "craiglist leads do not convert" are dead wrong,I have been doing $5k+ in profits just from leads i get it from craiglist and never been questioned by network or AM for quality of leads.

      Thats great news! I just got the CPA WSO and can't wait to get started trying out craigslist and some of the other methods in it. Definitely worth the $10!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    I think the funky language should be nipped now before it gets worse...soon we will be calling each other names...why not raise the bar..not lower it.

    I can't believe that would even get debated.:confused:
    There is no debate to this. If I want to use the word shitty than I can. It described the leads PPC-Coach was talking about perfectly.

    You need to grow more of a thick skin if that word upsets you so much. Besides, I think you are exaggerating too much here. No one is calling any names by using the word shitty. It does not lead to anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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    Originally Posted by wallush View Post

    I agree. It can get a lot worse.
    Adding to your post count? Worthless post.
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  • Profile picture of the author robsuccess4l
    I think a balance of Craigslist, USFreeads and Backpage one take leverage the advantages of classified advertising pretty well. I don't like Kijjiji much though. Anyone else want to chime in?
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Dolan
    You forgot Gumtree in the list ... :-)

    Anyone hard up can always take a look - I think I have the first serious trial version available of what could be a high ticket software. But I don't have time to do seminars which would be why you have to pay me $1500 ... so I sell for $67 in my WSO.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneytize
    craigslist is still very profitable
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    • Profile picture of the author unlanthony
      I had one of my pubs mail to CL, not good, I almost lost my campaign from my advertiser. My advertiser received many complaints from CL about spamming their list.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Chandler
    Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

    Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

    Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

    Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

    Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

    Thanks for your help!!
    It can depend on the advertiser's offer. Most of the time they will spell it out if they do not allow it, but cragslist or not - spam is spam - so be careful on who/what & how you do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author webpromotions
    I certainly hope that Craiglist to CPA is dead...its not what it was intended for.

    Is everyone here too young to remember when Ebay was a great place to buy and sell real products?

    Lets see...Has Ebay recently pissed off all of their sellers AND buyers because:
    a. they enjoy it and they like being the big bad 'PayBay' guys?
    OR...
    b. they had no choice because they couldn't figure out a better way to deal with all of the marketing spam?

    Lets all sit back and watch Craigslist be destroyed too...(and lets encourage it too...)
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  • Profile picture of the author webpromotions
    Thats really just saying that you have to be 'smart' to spam CL. Same with Ebay. That doesn't argue against my point that this is NOT the kind of thing these sites were made for.

    Personally, I never go to Ebay and CL anymore because of the spam and fraud.

    I used to buy my daughter used video games on Ebay all the time...now I find it more worthwhile to drive to a local buy/sell/trade store in town because I won't be bombarded with BS spam and fraud crap.

    Its really bad that everyone wants to spam CL and Ebay to the point that they alienate their real customers...but its even worse that many of these same people start threads on this forum bitching about policies that CL and Ebay put in place to deal with this stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author LeivaMatias
    Pablo you mentioned some things about Neverblue and Craigslist. That is very true.

    But these guys are now mainly scraping and "emailing" to these people. So now that falls under the category of Email Marketing.

    Many people are not posting ads like before, and using an autoresponder to circulate through CPA offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author iTechSolutions
    Yes they can track and its not allowed.

    $10 inveastment in honestbizpro WSO is well worth of
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  • Profile picture of the author kposs
    So, can someone give me a clue, pretty please? I was burned badly by stupidity in direct CL to CPA.

    What can you do between CL and CPA so that you are playing by the rules? Can you send CL to a squeeze page to add them to your list, then send them CPA offers? Or will the same rabid people from CL that would complain if you sent them direct to the CPA offer just get on your list, see who you're promoting and contact them anyway?

    I just do not see a way around CL people notifying your CPA network. Some people have nothing better to do, I guess
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    • Profile picture of the author that-cpa-guy
      Just wanted to chime in on this...

      craigslist to an offer = bad, don't do it however craigslist to your autoresponder (aweber) = email traffic and is totally acceptable since you provided your aff links via email.

      Also, just to note, I read this whole thread and the dude that was complaining about bad language that wasn't even spelled out, that is silly. This is business, gotta have a thicker skin that that my friend.

      I can honestly say craigslist is not dead as far as cpa goes, you just have to be smart about the structure and the angle that you present. It is getting harder, that is for sure. I usually post in all the major cities as well as reply to people who posted under certain search kw's.
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      • Profile picture of the author JoeHudson
        Have you had any success with this method? I was starting my first CPA campaign similar to this method and was afraid that i would get banned from my network.
        Method: From CL job section to my landing page with aweber form, then autorespond in 24 hrs with unemployment survey. GO or No?
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        • Profile picture of the author Kenster
          Also consider the relationship you have with your AM and your experience level. If you are brand new, chances are your AMs will not like CL traffic and you will not get paid.

          If you have history and they know you can generate good traffic, then thats another story. I have had CL campaigns where my AM lowered payout below street because it was converting but not as well. At the end of the day, if the advertiser is making money and the network is making money, they will be flexible assuming they trust you!

          Be smart. Also, try driving CL traffic to your site and then sell from there.

          ken
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    • Profile picture of the author ManuelGonzalez
      Originally Posted by kposs View Post

      So, can someone give me a clue, pretty please? I was burned badly by stupidity in direct CL to CPA.

      What can you do between CL and CPA so that you are playing by the rules? Can you send CL to a squeeze page to add them to your list, then send them CPA offers? Or will the same rabid people from CL that would complain if you sent them direct to the CPA offer just get on your list, see who you're promoting and contact them anyway?

      I just do not see a way around CL people notifying your CPA network. Some people have nothing better to do, I guess
      you have to send CL traffic to your own landing page. When i use to do this i was making about 2k A DAY!!!! Look reasoning is because Cl users complain to affiliate network and to advertisers. the goal is to stop those complaints. anyways thats all bh (spaming) so i'm not going into detail about how to lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kenster
        Originally Posted by JayPeete View Post

        I have been reading through all of the threads and whew!

        If it is this hard to do it, why not just use another accepted method. There are many to choose from.

        I just needed to chime in on this one because why risk getting banned...

        CL isnt that hard. It takes creativity but its not hard at all.

        Some affilaite managers wont care so if this is true, then you dont have to worry about getting banned. At best, they may tell you that your CL traffic isnt converting and not pay you commission, but unlike ppc and paid methods, so what, it was free so you dont lose anything

        If your AM or network doesnt let you, then yes, you do have that risk



        Originally Posted by ManuelGonzalez View Post

        you have to send CL traffic to your own landing page. When i use to do this i was making about 2k A DAY!!!! Look reasoning is because Cl users complain to affiliate network and to advertisers. the goal is to stop those complaints. anyways thats all bh (spaming) so i'm not going into detail about how to lol.

        Yes, CL is still a goldmine. With a little creativity you can reasonably easily make over 1k per day. MANY MANY people are doing it. The amount of traffic is insane and yes they are cracking down on this, but they have been for a long time. It will take more and more creativity to get around, but right now its still def worth it.


        And dont think that this is all blackhat stuff. Craigslist is traffic and you can bring in good honest leads. There are a lot of blackhatters and ewhorers who give it a bad reputation (rightfully so) but there are still very legit ways...thats why some AMs let me and other use it.


        my 2 cents


        kenster
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  • Profile picture of the author Solidsnake
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    Originally Posted by Kenster View Post

    Hey Guys, pretty new to the CPA game and PPC has eaten up almost all of my funds , so I tried marketing to CL the other day...

    Sent out a few emails to craigslist.org addresses with a hyperlink to an I-framed CPA offer and got a few conversions.

    Do CPA networks allow this? Can they even track it actually came from an email I sent to craigslist people?

    Hope it's allowed so I can start earning some money to use on PPC again!

    Thanks for your help!!
    It's actually depends on the offer... if the offer allow email then do it..
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  • Profile picture of the author dropship
    Some networks do not allow any type of CL advertising including emailing, so just be aware of their policies before you do it.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings
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    • Profile picture of the author Jay Truman
      Originally Posted by ChrisBa View Post

      stay away from craigslist..
      yes, please stay away, more money for me .
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  • Profile picture of the author Nato Guajardo
    Yeah, stay away from Craigslist if you hate money. It's true that posting on CL can be a challenge but once you learn the techniques and strategies the sky is the limit.

    I am working with several Warriors that are killing it on Craigslist right now. If you don't want to take the time to learn Craigslist then you can always outsource to a professional.
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  • Profile picture of the author Shakul
    Most of the networks dont allow Craigslist.

    It also depends on the CPA offer which you are promoting, say, if the CPA offer is CPS, then there will not be any problem.

    Also, some advertisers creates a issue when they find that leads are coming from CL. CPA offer that pays $9 per page submit usually have a field where user have to enter their phone number and when advertisers/CPA Network see that you are making $xxx per day from just one CPA offer, they will personally ask from lead..and they will get to know that you are promoting through CL.

    Bottom line:

    ...Promote CPA offer that pays per sale/free trial and mostly you will remain safe.
    ...Dont make $xxx in one day using CL.
    ...Have a good relationship with your AM, so even if something goes wrong, you will not loose your account, if you are making good income from other CPA offers..It depends on many factors.
    ...CL is a goldmine. You just need to find a good match b/w cpa offer and CL section.

    Start making $xx per day, few dollars and then increase it slowly and slowly...Dont make $500 in your first day!

    Shakul

    Edit: There are many other ways to make money from CL. You really dont need to go after posting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jay Truman
      Originally Posted by Nato Guajardo View Post

      the sky is the limit.
      yeah i agree craigslist really is a goldmine. more posts=more money. sky really is the limit and 4 figure days aren't out of reach...

      Originally Posted by Shakul View Post

      Dont make in one day using CL.
      if you belong to many networks you can get up to that in a day.

      i agree if your doing craigslist stuff, talk to your AM and make sure everything is okay. some don't mind the traffic, but it depends...
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  • Profile picture of the author dropship
    The bottom line is that if you are promoting CPS products, there shouldn't be any issues at all.
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  • See my manager in an affiliate network told me
    " they accept any method which don't harm the advertiser "
    If this don't hurt then go
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  • Profile picture of the author webatomic
    So what about responding to CL wanted ads? Is that usually ok? If I respond to a wanted ad with a (cloaked) affiliate link, is that ok? Or would it have to be a link to my own site to be acceptable? Or is none of that acceptable?
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    • Profile picture of the author Shakul
      Originally Posted by webatomic View Post

      So what about responding to CL wanted ads? Is that usually ok? If I respond to a wanted ad with a (cloaked) affiliate link, is that ok? Or would it have to be a link to my own site to be acceptable? Or is none of that acceptable?
      Usually, I assume you will be responding with email submit offer or such. So, there will not be any problem at all if you keep it under radar.

      However, I usually go after big offers which pays at least $9 per lead.

      Shakul
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      • Profile picture of the author webatomic
        Originally Posted by Shakul View Post

        Usually, I assume you will be responding with email submit offer or such. So, there will not be any problem at all if you keep it under radar.

        However, I usually go after big offers which pays at least $9 per lead.

        Shakul
        Well I'd want to go for bigger offers as well. But is that violating anything by replying to a wanted ad via email with an aff. link? I used to do this with Ebay and had some success.
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        • Profile picture of the author Shakul
          Originally Posted by webatomic View Post

          Well I'd want to go for bigger offers as well. But is that violating anything by replying to a wanted ad via email with an aff. link? I used to do this with Ebay and had some success.
          If you see it from CPA network point of view, then they dont allow CL marketing at many times.

          If you look it from the recipient point of view, then he will be slightly ok, that he has a chance to get a free iphone or a free trial to zzz..lol

          Now, the answer to the question whether it is violating any CPA network rules or not. The answer more or less is yes. However, none of the CPA network will tell you straight forward that they will allow this and if you ask them they will tell you "this will violate out TOS and we do not allow CL marketing".

          However, even if you send the leads using this, no one is gonna to ban you if you keep it under radar.

          Spread your earnings across different networks.
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          • Profile picture of the author TE2
            Originally Posted by Shakul View Post


            However, even if you send the leads using this, no one is gonna to ban you if you keep it under radar.
            Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

            I used a different major (not CL) free classified site to test an offer in June and got a "you are in violation of the Publisher TOS" email from the CPA network.

            I explained my error, questioned their warning (could not find it in their TOS and pointed out some vagueness), promised that the error was corrected, and that I would not do it again.

            They reiterated that it was a violation, said they accepted my explanation and paid me my June commissions.

            My point is, they make the rules and they will ban you.

            I probably escaped banishment only because of the vagueness and maybe I am too valuable to them.

            Regards,

            John

            ps - Learning experience - I could have avoided it had I cloaked my link properly. I forgot to and they could see my referrer. Sometimes it pays to slow down and make sure you have everything set up correctly.
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            • Profile picture of the author Shakul
              Originally Posted by TE2 View Post

              Been there, done that, got the t-shirt...

              I used a different major (not CL) free classified site to test an offer in June and got a "you are in violation of the Publisher TOS" email from the CPA network.

              I explained my error, questioned their warning (could not find it in their TOS and pointed out some vagueness), promised that the error was corrected, and that I would not do it again.

              They reiterated that it was a violation, said they accepted my explanation and paid me my June commissions.

              My point is, they make the rules and they will ban you.

              I probably escaped banishment only because of the vagueness and maybe I am too valuable to them.

              Regards,

              John

              ps - Learning experience - I could have avoided it had I cloaked my link properly. I forgot to and they could see my referrer. Sometimes it pays to slow down and make sure you have everything set up correctly.
              Exactly.

              If one doesnt cover his ass properly, then they will ban and most of the times will not even pay.

              But if one covers his tracks properly, goes slowly in starting, make sure that leads converts at advertiser end and have a good relationship with AMs and even send leads to CPS offers, then he will most probably get paid

              Shakul
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              • Profile picture of the author Nato Guajardo
                Originally Posted by Shakul View Post

                But if one covers his tracks properly, goes slowly in starting, make sure that leads converts at advertiser end and have a good relationship with AMs and even send leads to CPS offers, then he will most probably get paid

                Shakul
                Yup. Do this and you will be ok. Don't get greedy and scale up too quickly.

                If you do scale up I would recommend spreading it around several CPA networks to be safe. This is what I do and have never been in trouble.

                I'm actually glad that affiliates don't want to go through all the hassle to post on craigslist. Less competition for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    I have come along way in my cpa and cl marketing over the past months and I have a few things to add...

    First, yes, be careful because cl violates most TOS as noted above. Some am's dont mind if they are converting on the advertisers end, but be careful because most am's and networks dont allow this at all.

    Second, if done properly, cl is STILL a goldmine, you just need to be creative. As a demonstration to a few people I have been coaching, I let them pick an offer and told them I bet I can make money with it. Set up a few very creative ads, autoresponses and landing pages and voila, got a few conversions a day ($35 payout). This is without fancy software like auto-posters and such.

    The point is, there is still money to be miled from cl
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Just remember if you do promote on craigslist, make sure the offer allows it - i'd hate to see a fellow warrior lose there commission due to a technicality.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sam_Jones
    Craigslist is hard job now, but as someone suggested, you could try referring people to your website with CPA offers on it. That may prove safer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    Craigslist to CPA is not a good idea. You could have your comissions withheld or your affiliate network account deleted.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Affiliit View Post

      Craigslist to CPA is not a good idea. You could have your comissions withheld or your affiliate network account deleted.


      It can be a good idea, especially for those who don't have the capital to invest in PPC. BUT you MUST make sure this traffic is at least unofficially allowed by your affiliate manager.

      Your AM may tell you that you should drive your cl traffic to a blog or landing page first and then if the traffic converts from the blog or landing page, its completely legit. In the end it comes down to what your affiliate manager allows. If he says absolutely no cl...dont do it
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    There are other ways to get free traffic, IMO it's best to stay away from CL.

    I've heard of AM's saying CL traffic is allowed, until pay day comes and the merchant finds out it was from CL and noone gets paid. This won't always happen, but it could. Just be careful if you are promoting with it!
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  • Profile picture of the author janvera
    When it comes to CPA try to always have a legit landing page because you never know when your advertiser is going to be strict and ban you!
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  • Profile picture of the author bozz723
    Craigslist still dominates. You just need to know how to work it. It is actually 100x better now because a lot of people gave up on it. Also of course the CPA companies frown upon you iframing an offer and sending it to random craigslisters.
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    • Profile picture of the author Roid
      Originally Posted by bozz723 View Post

      Craigslist still dominates. You just need to know how to work it. It is actually 100x better now because a lot of people gave up on it. Also of course the CPA companies frown upon you iframing an offer and sending it to random craigslisters.
      Hey Bozz723,

      I am interested in learning more about your program. I tried to send you a PM, but since I don't have 50 posts, I'm unable to send any PM's. Is there another way to contact you?

      If any of you have programs for newbies, I would be interested in hearing about them. Due to health problems, I need to learn how to make money from home.

      Thanks!

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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    Craigslist can also be a good source to drive traffic to an adsense site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kenster
    Criagslist is ALIVE...

    It continually gets tougher and you must be resilient to evolve with it, but it is sitll a ginormous traffic source. The traffic is free and abundant, so even tohugh conversion may not be great, profit is.

    Its funny because the methods I use on CL are soo basic its pathetic. I think people overthink and think theres some secret software that has to be used to make money using CL. Thats what I thought when I first started to, its simply not true. Just be creative.


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  • Profile picture of the author JayPeete
    I have been reading through all of the threads and whew!

    If it is this hard to do it, why not just use another accepted method. There are many to choose from.

    I just needed to chime in on this one because why risk getting banned...
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    • Profile picture of the author allened
      My friend was looking for a date on CL and got hit with the usual dating site reply backs.
      He was so pissed that he took it upon himself to visit the sites, find the affiliate/cpa network and report the trick.

      These are real people with real pains and to "pretend" like you're a girl and then hit them with cpa offers or worst, spam them with other offers once you have the email address is bad Karma.

      This business model will be stopped simply because once you find something that's free and easy to abuse, then the whole world will abuse it hence ..... it will become saturated and stopped.

      "Build a house on a solid foundation and you'll always have a home"
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      • Profile picture of the author ManuelGonzalez
        Originally Posted by allened View Post

        My friend was looking for a date on CL and got hit with the usual dating site reply backs.
        He was so pissed that he took it upon himself to visit the sites, find the affiliate/cpa network and report the trick.

        These are real people with real pains and to "pretend" like you're a girl and then hit them with cpa offers or worst, spam them with other offers once you have the email address is bad Karma.

        This business model will be stopped simply because once you find something that's free and easy to abuse, then the whole world will abuse it hence ..... it will become saturated and stopped.

        "Build a house on a solid foundation and you'll always have a home"
        I like that "Build a house on a solid foundation and you'll always have a home" I wonder what CL is doing to stop the spam. I mean if you post a dating ad you get flooded with spam. Like 20+ messages withing the first few hours. Seriously this cant keep happening, i wonder what cl has up their sleeve. Knowing them tho, they probably will start trying to file lawsuits on the advertisers lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author Robyn8243
          When you go to the Jobs section on Craigslist, you are now greeted with a warning about Affiliate Scams and are told that you should try to report them. My daughter was recently looking for a job, and a lot of what is posted in the job section is nonsense.

          So if you are using Craigslist to scam/trick people, then even if you send them to an intermediate page to hide the referrer, you can still get caught. You can look at it as: "Some people don't have anything better to do" Or... "Perhaps people have many other better things to do, and resent wasting their time on bogus offers."

          However, if you think outside the box, instead of trying to copy every deceptive method used by everyone else who purchased the same ebook as you did, it is not too difficult to find ways to reach the Craigslist audience in a way that people will be grateful for your offer.

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  • Profile picture of the author infebious
    you get so much junk mail from CL anymore it seems like.
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  • Profile picture of the author plester
    Hi Kenster,

    I just got a great craigs list marketing pprogram 2 days ago myself and it's miles above any others i've seen.

    it sounds like it's just what you're looking for,the guy who put it out is named Kenny Cannon.

    you can probably do a search here on the WF and find it or if not you can go to his blog and check it out.

    KennyCannon.com

    That is NOT an affiliate link,simply a link to his blog.

    Hope that helps.

    Paul
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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Nash
    I wouldn't call Craiglist dead. But it is oversaturated, definitely.

    But what I do besides my other projects, is that Im collecting CL-emails via "CL EmailHarvesting"-Programs. Which will help me sending out different CPA-Offers.

    Search for a harvesting-tool that collects emails in CL by category. I.e, if you do have CPALeads that are about Pets (Dogs, Cats etc.) then its pretty obvious that you need to harvest emails from the same category over at CraigList. And then just send out your emails.


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  • Profile picture of the author Arfan
    On Craigslist it says "FUN FACT: Reporting a scammer's "affiliate ID" to their affiliate marketing program often results in confiscation of the scammer's ill-gotten gains by the affiliate program." So I would not really recommend it.
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  • Profile picture of the author hotftuna
    "stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings "

    Let's say you figure out how to get relevant traffic from CL to your own web page (w/o tricking). Visitors click-thru relevant cpa ad links.

    Do you think that this model would violate any cpa tos?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by Arfan View Post

      On Craigslist it says "FUN FACT: Reporting a scammer's "affiliate ID" to their affiliate marketing program often results in confiscation of the scammer's ill-gotten gains by the affiliate program." So I would not really recommend it.

      Yes, but some advertisers dont mind craigslist traffic. If you are doing it properly, you can get good leads for the advertiser and that is why some affiliate managers will let you test/run cl campaigns.



      Originally Posted by hotftuna View Post

      "stay away from craigslist.. most places do not allow it, if you get caught you will most likely lose your earnings "

      Let's say you figure out how to get relevant traffic from CL to your own web page (w/o tricking). Visitors click-thru relevant cpa ad links.

      Do you think that this model would violate any cpa tos?


      This is 100% true if you arent allowed to use cl or you fake your traffic and they learn its from cl. In my experience, Craigslist traffic violates almost all networks TOS but that doesnt mean AMs will not let you try it. Doubtful they will let you if you dont have history with them or are driving decent traffic for a while with them. In other words, prob wont let noobs try.


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  • Profile picture of the author Todd-O
    As a newbie I dont really know if CL is dead for CPA. I use it for buying and selling physical goods all the time and I consider it a great part of the "underground ecomomy". I recently tried out posting to multiple CL cities by using information I found on YouTube. The guy said to make your ad a jpeg image and you can post all over the US. Well, I can tell that this information is already outdated. It looks like you need to kep your self ahead of the curve when using CL for CPa.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukinara
    uhm, I ran some CL traffic a while back, make some cash, and so far, only one advertiser ban me. They didn't say that my CL traffic quality is bad, it;s just that they don't like to see more competitors on CL
    oh well, yeah, it's worth, but you have to be careful
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by yukinara View Post

      uhm, I ran some CL traffic a while back, make some cash, and so far, only one advertiser ban me. They didn't say that my CL traffic quality is bad, it;s just that they don't like to see more competitors on CL
      oh well, yeah, it's worth, but you have to be careful


      Thats a good point. I have heard from a few sources that many networks have network wide policy that CL is not allowed because they themselves are promoting va CL and dont want the competition. In this case you have two options...

      1. Use a network that does let you drive CL traffic to offers

      2. Get CL traffic but then convert that traffic to another kind. For example, drive CL traffic to a landing page with opt in, then use this email traffic to your offer. Again there are many ways around it, some are very sticky with the network and some not so sticky. Be creative, but be smart. In the end the network and the advertisers are partners...you want everybody to make money.


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  • Profile picture of the author janicejan
    I haven't had any success with Craiglist but there are a few who gained from it, maybe my procedure was just wrong and it's the reason why I am not doing CPA on craiglist.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChadH
    CL to a lander isn't necessarily called CL traffic. A lot of AM's will allow you to do it this way.
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  • Profile picture of the author CPVee
    CL spam is reaching a new low...

    I want to sell my car, put an ad up locally.

    Got a short response from a semi-legit non-spammy looking email address.

    I responded.

    The guy(rather his script) then asked me to look up insurance rates for him on my vehicle for sale and gave me his affiliate link to a insurance signup.. WTF?

    Like I'm going to take my time to get the guy who inquired about my car insurance quotes?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    Craigslist is now better than ever in my opinion because a lot of marketers went else where. You just have to fly under the radar and get PVA accounts(easy if you know what to do).

    There is always opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    Originally Posted by honestbizpro View Post

    I always had great success with CL because I never direct link..always to a niche blog first. Never get accused of spamming or breaking TOS that way.
    Exactly...setting up a custom autoresponder is also a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author cpa-money
    it`s a little tricky.


    i do think the best way to do it is with email auto responder.
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliit
    I'm going to be flat out honest - you can make money on facebook, but almost everything your doing is against the terms of service for both your network and affiliate offers, networks are cracking down on this now, they are not only not paying affiliates, but are banning there accounts. I'm not saying don't do it, just know the consequences if you get caught.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    I'm curious if Kenster has had all his commissions paid out from his CL traffic over the year since this thread was started?
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  • Profile picture of the author imageworx
    Found this thread interesting, so I checked with one of my AM's ...they said as long as it's not direct link from CL and the offer allows it, they're ok with it....
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by imageworx View Post

      Found this thread interesting, so I checked with one of my AM's ...they said as long as it's not direct link from CL and the offer allows it, they're ok with it....

      Yep, some will consider it web traffic if there are layers in between, many will not.

      I personally haven't had any commissions denied due to craigslist traffic but my most recent craigslist endeavors have been list building not CPA offering. Bigger fish to fry and I now try and focus on sustainable campaigns that work more autopilot. Craigslist is a lot of work and is always changing
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  • Profile picture of the author skygod
    I think most EDU pubs use email marketing and making $10k a day, i'm thinking if they are using craigslist to email EDU offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author mobetman
    This thread is interesting. Was thinking of getting into marketing on Craigslist and other classified sites.

    Is it still an effective place to market or is it dead?

    Any suggestions of method/techniques to use?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kenster
      Originally Posted by mobetman View Post

      This thread is interesting. Was thinking of getting into marketing on Craigslist and other classified sites.

      Is it still an effective place to market or is it dead?

      Any suggestions of method/techniques to use?

      Yep, take a look through this thread. The main thing is that you normally want to direct CL traffic to a hub first and then monetize from there or even further upstream.

      A lot of people don't "get" this concept, but its important to get so you don't get in trouble and so everybody wins in the supply chain equation!
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