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7Search - Is it Real or a Joke?

by ecommercevisibility
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Hi,

I see a few threads here promoting 7Search. I did my own research and found nothing worth to give it a try. Who else knows 7Search other than IM people? Probably none.

Also their CTR is pathetic? I have Adwords CTR of about 23.75%, so why waste time and effort.

Paid posters and paid reviewers don't need to reply to this thread.

Thanks
#7search #joke #real
  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    If you use it the correct way, ie blocking certain ID's, using exact and phrase searches (ie NOT broad) you will make money from it.

    The quality of lead isnt as good as other forms of PPC however it depends on the type of offer you use. If you are trying to sell a $50 item then dont expect to do much, however if youre looking for email submits then fire in, however be prepared to have most of them scrubbed lol
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    • Profile picture of the author wizbiz
      Originally Posted by the_icon View Post

      If you use it the correct way, ie blocking certain ID's, using exact and phrase searches (ie NOT broad) you will make money from it.
      Really, did you check Referrer?
      You cannot convert BOT traffic it's ain't gonna sign up for anything.
      I personally checked each click Referrer, there was not even single legit
      website, all Fake/Junk 1 page/1 link.
      Their clicks are not real (Bots stay on page 0 seconds, just hits)
      and coming from small Junk websites.
      Most of the clicks from India, China, Korea and so on, even though I check
      US only. It's mystery to me how those guys stay in business, I guess you got
      what you paid for. If you just want to use traffic and watch clicks for fun,
      you might as well go with adf.ly then.

      Good luck.
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      What ad network would you recommend?
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  • Profile picture of the author chintz24
    You are right. It's quality is pathetic. However the traffic is dirt cheap and it is true "you get what you pay for."

    However it does convert. You cannot scale it, but its a good addition to your existing ppc campaign. I have had insane ROI's with 7search but not so great earnings. I mean I spent 37$ to make over 167$ (somewhat that figure). However there is no way I could scale it. My daily limit was 20$, I could not reach 3$ for my keywords.

    And it has its benefits over adwords like campaign security. Your adwords account could be banned any minute, 7search will not do that (again low quality). However I do not believe that we should give this google "tyranny" an opportunity.
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    • Profile picture of the author likeabird70
      Originally Posted by chintz24 View Post

      You are right. It's quality is pathetic. However the traffic is dirt cheap and it is true "you get what you pay for."

      However it does convert. You cannot scale it, but its a good addition to your existing ppc campaign. I have had insane ROI's with 7search but not so great earnings. I mean I spent 37$ to make over 167$ (somewhat that figure). However there is no way I could scale it. My daily limit was 20$, I could not reach 3$ for my keywords.

      And it has its benefits over adwords like campaign security. Your adwords account could be banned any minute, 7search will not do that (again low quality). However I do not believe that we should give this google "tyranny" an opportunity.
      I totally agree with you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Same
    Well 7Search traffic quality isn't the best one, but I started my PPC career there... So no bad words about them.
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    • Profile picture of the author ichthyander
      Originally Posted by Same View Post

      Well 7Search traffic quality isn't the best one, but I started my PPC career there... So no bad words about them.
      Did you continued with 7search or moved to other PPC networks? If yes, can you please mention some better PPC networks besides adsense/adcentre?
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      • Profile picture of the author Same
        Originally Posted by ichthyander View Post

        Did you continued with 7search or moved to other PPC networks? If yes, can you please mention some better PPC networks besides adsense/adcentre?
        Nope, I'm already moved out from 7search.

        I'm lack of time right now because of the uni, so I only use several networks - Facebook, POF and sometimes Bing ads.

        By the way, whole summer I used/tested bunch of international PPC networks... Don't stick with only with big ones.
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        • Profile picture of the author aaheroe
          Originally Posted by Same View Post

          Nope, I'm already moved out from 7search.

          I'm lack of time right now because of the uni, so I only use several networks - Facebook, POF and sometimes Bing ads.

          By the way, whole summer I used/tested bunch of international PPC networks... Don't stick with only with big ones.
          can you please tell me other pcc network that you used after move from 7search
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  • Profile picture of the author cohenpapar
    i used it 1.5 years before. maybe i got 20k traffic but not only one sales
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  • Profile picture of the author ichthyander
    I have already 100 clicks still no conversation, even though I strictly maintained the EXACT match. Lets see what happens next
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by ecommercevisibility View Post

    Hi,

    I see a few threads here promoting 7Search. I did my own research and found nothing worth to give it a try. Who else knows 7Search other than IM people? Probably none.

    Also their CTR is pathetic? I have Adwords CTR of about 23.75%, so why waste time and effort.

    Paid posters and paid reviewers don't need to reply to this thread.

    Thanks
    Why does CTR matter? As long as CTR is consistent then IMO all you should worry about is epc and profit
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  • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
    I've only tried emails submits on 7search, and you can get leads. Whether your campaign will be profitable or not is a different story.
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    • Profile picture of the author Technito
      I've wasted a lot of money with 7Search. You can get some leads but 7Search's publisher's are made up of mostly incentive based click networks, which is a big waste of your time and money.

      And their CL (Click Free) traffic is totally bogus traffic. It's not even real traffic. I won't even get into that, because I could fill up this page with my experience with that.

      My advice, stay away from them and stick with Adwords/Adcenter, or even FaceBook when it comes to PPC.
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  • Profile picture of the author itravel2004
    I just sign up 7 search, 15 clicks on my squeeze page but no opt in
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Why don't 7Search make their approval guidelines for publishers more strict so incentive based click networks cannot drive traffic. This way, the traffic will be higher quality and more people will want to use their network.

    Or would doing so, make them even more low volume because they don't have a big enough budget to get good publishers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Marcus C
    Hi ecommercevisibility,

    7Search is definitely real and has been around for a very long time. I've never actually used it myself, but I have a couple of friends who do pretty well on there.

    If you spend time testing their traffic with your offers, you'll get the answers your looking for.

    - Marcus
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  • Profile picture of the author williamrs
    t's not a joke. 7Search isn't the best traffic source out there, their volume and quality aren't great, but their CPC is lower, which can be a compensation.

    I myself don't use 7Search because I don't think it's worth my effort, I think it's much better to work with AdWords and AdCenter, which can deliver a lot more traffic, but if you're getting started and want to learn how to do search PPC 7Search is a possibility.


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  • Profile picture of the author richbabe
    I agree &search is the place to learn how it all works cheap traffic ! but dose not convert i tryed it out for 1 month spent alot not much happened in return so gave it up!
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  • Profile picture of the author rising_sun
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    Why you think it's a joke ??????????????,
    It's real,and 100%.
    It's a reliable and trusted site I have ever seen.
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    • Profile picture of the author got2know
      I've just had 500+ clicks in the last 2 days on an ad, and had zero back for it.

      I'm advertising free software, so basically I had 500+ clicking on the ad offering free software and no one actually downloaded it.

      Campaign deleted!
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      • Profile picture of the author Ampli
        Originally Posted by got2know View Post

        I've just had 500+ clicks in the last 2 days on an ad, and had zero back for it.

        I'm advertising free software, so basically I had 500+ clicking on the ad offering free software and no one actually downloaded it.

        Campaign deleted!
        what you advertised free software download but got no download after 500 clicks thats weird.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        I haven't heard many good things about it but I could only draw judgement if I actually used it...which isn't likely!


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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    I am using it. I think its the cheapest means of PPC campaigning. I don't think its effective like Google adword. But its Good.
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  • Profile picture of the author 7SearchBrad
    Originally Posted by ecommercevisibility View Post

    Hi,

    I see a few threads here promoting 7Search. I did my own research and found nothing worth to give it a try. Who else knows 7Search other than IM people? Probably none.

    Also their CTR is pathetic? I have Adwords CTR of about 23.75%, so why waste time and effort.

    Paid posters and paid reviewers don't need to reply to this thread.

    Thanks
    I'm sorry to hear of your negative experience with 7Search. If I can be of any assistance with specific questions as it relates to your past campaigns please let me know. Our network of traffic partners tends to ebb and flow as we analyze the quality of traffic being sent from our partners and as we begin to receive traffic from new sources. We use our click fraud technology to monitor and validate our traffic sources to eliminate as much poor traffic as possible. Feel free to email me directly at bstanley at 7search dot com.
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    • Profile picture of the author servnu3000
      I am running 17 campaigns and in several niches and so far nothing seems to work except for the occasional conversion. So far in the last 7 days I have 1million+ impressions, 200+ clicks and 1 conversion on a playstation 4 freeby. My Earnings are $2.40 over 7 days running 17 campaigns.
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      • Profile picture of the author QtoBrooklyn
        Originally Posted by servnu3000 View Post

        I am running 17 campaigns and in several niches and so far nothing seems to work except for the occasional conversion. So far in the last 7 days I have 1million+ impressions, 200+ clicks and 1 conversion on a playstation 4 freeby. My Earnings are $2.40 over 7 days running 17 campaigns.
        Don't expect to earn much from freebie offers like email submits. Firstly they scrub a lot, secondly everyone and their grandmother is running email submits on 7search.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    Have you even set up an account with 7search? Or are you just posting some negative or suggestive things you've read on here about the 2nd tier search engine?

    Well 7search is like any other 2nd tier search engine ppc, in that the quality of traffic isn't like google, but neither is the cost. You can get decent traffic for the money, but you have to track to see where conversions are taking place.

    Otherwise, you don't get any profit or ROI. Most people spend some money there, and don't make any money back, then they come on the forum and complain that it doesn't work.

    Yes it does work.
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  • Profile picture of the author pacelattin
    I have written about 7search, tested 7search, promoted 7search.

    It a great but sometimes horrible traffic source. Sometimes you can make bank, sometimes its a crudload of fraud.
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  • Profile picture of the author kinyash
    i consider 7search an entry level network for many affiliates. After you have made a good amount you can then move up to the big boys (adwords and all). Bottom line is we have lots of affiliates breaking even with their campaigns on 7search and what you need is just do lots of testing and tracking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    7Search has been working great for me. It does work well with CPA.

    But with that being said, it is NO Adwords.

    Also judging by your name you do eCommerce, 7Search is not a great place for eCommerce. I would stick with Adwords.

    My tip would be to block back refers.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecommercevisibility
    Thanks all for your input.

    So the verdict is it is not worth the effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author skybridgedomains
    I found that 7search had poor quality traffic but thats not to say it won't work for everyone.

    It is good to have multiple sources of income these days though so this is where it could work and be a consideration, depending on what you have for sale.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    I'm voting for 'it's a joke.' I'm not going to put any more money in there. I'd rather move the budget to Facebook.

    Have you ever seen the 'search engines' people are allegedly coming from on 7Search?
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Dinero
    7Search is a joke and a waste of money. The volume sucks and the traffic quality sucks too (almost no convertions). Note that I have only tested for clickbank offers, dont know about how it works with CPA
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  • Profile picture of the author filippatrick24
    What are altnernate (besides Adwords, Bingwords and Facewords (lol?)) advertising PPC methods that will bring legit traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author eresource
    7 Search is definitely a joke.

    How they make money is by making their own network of fake sites then send bot clicks so basically they keep all your money.

    Once in awhile, they'll spend a few bucks and actually send some legit leads to selected people, usually someone on WF so that they can start a thread saying they made $XXX with 7 Search in order to draw in new sign-ups.

    That's what I think.
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  • Profile picture of the author MichaelBartley
    wow. thanks for this thread guys i am currently testing on 7search hoping to at least come across some offers that will convert. currently tracking
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  • Profile picture of the author olelar
    I have had no success with 7 Search. Spent about $100 there. I would not recommend it!
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  • Profile picture of the author johnbrown12
    it's only good for zip submits kind of CPA offers but not good in long run
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  • Profile picture of the author AshTJ
    7search isn't bad at all, you just have to make sure you've eliminated the poor quality traffic and keywords that don't convert. I've got a dating campaign with a single keyword making me $5-$25 in profit per day.
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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    I've used 7search and had decent results via cpa. Some offers converted and some were crap. So if the user has to make enter an email and that's it, then you may have a good conversion rate and make a decent roi.

    You need to track like mad though and see what converts. Your affiliate manager too will let you exit out of certain traffic sources that you deem to be bogus.
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    • Profile picture of the author im0001
      Originally Posted by tjaysen70 View Post

      I've used 7search and had decent results via cpa. Some offers converted and some were crap. So if the user has to make enter an email and that's it, then you may have a good conversion rate and make a decent roi.

      You need to track like mad though and see what converts. Your affiliate manager too will let you exit out of certain traffic sources that you deem to be bogus.
      Can you check to see if you received any traffic from adlux.com which converted?

      That's a referral url in 7S, btw.
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  • Profile picture of the author makie
    The offers that converted for me when I was using 7search last year were Free NFL Jersey Offer and a Recipe toolbar download offer both were with Maxbounty. I just checked they have that NFL Jersey on Maxbounty right now if your using 7search with no success I would try that NFL Jersey offer.
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    • Profile picture of the author im0001
      Originally Posted by makie View Post

      The offers that converted for me when I was using 7search last year were Free NFL Jersey Offer and a Recipe toolbar download offer both were with Maxbounty. I just checked they have that NFL Jersey on Maxbounty right now if your using 7search with no success I would try that NFL Jersey offer.
      Thanks but this post will make it very competitive as others will try it too
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  • Profile picture of the author badboy_Nick
    7Search is a second tier PPC platform, so their traffic quality is naturally a lot lower than Google or BING. I mean personally, I don't know ANYONE who doesn't use Google for their search queries ... ok some use BING but they are a minority.

    I have tried 7 search and my results were pretty much the same: It didn't make me a profit and the traffic quality just wasn't there. That's why I ONLY stick to Adwords or BING nowadays. 90% of my traffic now comes from Adwords and 10% from BING and the merchant is happy. Win-win for everyone.

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    • Profile picture of the author im0001
      Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post

      I have tried 7 search and my results were pretty much the same: It didn't make me a profit and the traffic quality just wasn't there. That's why I ONLY stick to Adwords or BING nowadays. 90% of my traffic now comes from Adwords and 10% from BING and the merchant is happy. Win-win for everyone.

      Nick
      Nick, but you drive a Ferrari so you can afford Adwords any time - in the meantime we camel riders have to stick to 7Search for the time being
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  • Profile picture of the author MaroshIS
    7search ? Their traffic was garbage for me. I asked for a refund after 4 days testing it.
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  • Profile picture of the author brentb
    I have no problem with 7Search. I am taking down solid 200%+ ROIs on sales. NOT AFFILIATE LEAD OFFERS! Low volumes though obviously.

    When I coach in PPC I get them to run profitable PPC campaigns in 7Search first. Then when you step up to the big boys, its super easy with all the tools and settings that Adwords and Bing have and you can focus on beating the competition much easier when you don't have to worry about PPC basics.
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    • Profile picture of the author im0001
      Originally Posted by brentb View Post

      I have no problem with 7Search. I am taking down solid 200%+ ROIs on sales. NOT AFFILIATE LEAD OFFERS! Low volumes though obviously.

      When I coach in PPC I get them to run profitable PPC campaigns in 7Search first. Then when you step up to the big boys, its super easy with all the tools and settings that Adwords and Bing have and you can focus on beating the competition much easier when you don't have to worry about PPC basics.
      Good profitable keywords not all that cheap anyway. So it is possible to make a profit but you still have to have decent capital to play with. You won't get far with a few hundreds for good keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    I swither on 7search tbh.

    Previously I had bad results however with the right offer you can make good returns. At the moment I have a profitable campaign with a coupon offer from Peerfly.

    Previously with around 5 different niche offers they returned bad results. You just need to market the correct offer.
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    @the_icon

    Can I ask what budget you've allocated to that campaign and how much you went into the red before it was profitable?
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    • Profile picture of the author the_icon
      Originally Posted by im0001 View Post

      @the_icon

      Can I ask what budget you've allocated to that campaign and how much you went into the red before it was profitable?
      Tbh it was profitable from the start. I hadnt used 7search for a while, had some spare funds in the advertiser account and decided to punt it. I didnt expect it to return anything tbh but hey ho.

      Once I realised it was turning a profit, I took out all the bad traffic and non converting keywords and it was doing ok for a few days but since yesterday afternoon the conversions have dried up.

      The keywords are 12c and I am converting 1 every 5 on average. Payout is $1.20 so roughly doubling my money. Have stopped it this morning as its not working anymore.

      My opinion on 7search is dont spend too much on testing as the traffic isnt the best quality however its good enough to start off on before jumping to other sites. Too much is up to you however. For this offer, with a return of $1.20, I would need 1 every 10 clicks to convert to break even.

      If I spend $12 then thats 100 clicks. So theoretically if I am getting 100 clicks on a deal like this and none are converting then its a case of moving on. However what I would do is take it at intervals. Say every 20 clicks or so.

      Also bear in mind when you place your ads. The more likely type of people to click coupon ads for example are people that arent working or housebound so the best time to place the ads is during the day. If you are doing gaming offers then night time would be the best etc etc.

      One bit of advice that is relevant before selling anything to anyone, is knowing who you are selling too. Once you know that then you can sell them what is relevant to them.
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  • Profile picture of the author im0001
    @ATAC,

    Your offers need to pay $10 each to break even. You're a brave guy.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesawu
    I still use it ever so often for list building. It's not the best but if you narrow down a few words after extensive testing and removing bad sub id's it will work just fine. The only problem I have with 7search is that it is not scalable.
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    was not impressive for me when I started
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  • Profile picture of the author Stumickel
    As a mess of others I have had awful encounters with 7search. I suppose a ton of the traffic is fake. Its shabbier than bing or adwords for every click yet that's only since you get a ton of fake clicks. I suppose toward the finale you will wind up using about the same measure per conversion as on the different engines with no place close to the capability to scale as you have with the huge 2. I recently tried it with couple of CPA crusades and things didn't go as I needed ! The great thing is allow direct link to your offers.
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  • Profile picture of the author wesleywinter
    I have never had much luck with 7search. I tried it awhile back but nothing would convert. I am not saying it doesn't work but I sort of gave up on it awhile ago. I am sure if you put the time and effort into learning it then you could get some decent conversion rates.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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    It is absolutely useless and not worth your time. It is worth the time of someone who has zero budget however. They can get a look at how to test a campaign and possibly make a few dollars. For big money, it is not worth it.
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