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30 Dollar Game Plan?

by Olen
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I'm putting together a $30 a day game plan and trying to figure out how to approach it. My goal is to make $30 a day, consecutively. I'm thinking of using 7search, cpa companies like Maxbounty, Peerfly, etc. Probably zip submits, downloads and anything else that looks good.

Now for the reality check. I'm still figuring out prosper202 and I think I can get it going. I got one campaign on Peerfly that's starting to read right but then the 7search traffic dried up so I can't say for sure.

So I still have some fine tuning there. PPC coach's tracker looks good but I don't think that's available to the public. I have Tracking Demon but I don't think it works with 7search as far as figuring out what IP's to block. And cpvLab is too expensive right now. So it's Prosper at this point.

So for $30 a day, which would be $900 a month, I guess I will need $450 to start with if I'm figuring on 50% ROI? And from what I read on the WF, probably need 10 campaigns per cpa company. (That's running 3 campaigns of similar types from each) So let's say to get to that many I would need to crank out at least 3 a day to start and give each one $5 a day, starting the bidding at say .05 ? If this is not the way to look at this please let me know. Also I understand that there is so many variables that determine if I get even one winning campaign out of 10. Like the cpa company, the ads, the keywords used.

Also another reality check is in the beginning, setting up tracking correctly with the different networks may not run smooth enough to get 3 up a day. Anyway these are my thoughts at the moment.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    You're over thinking things a bit, but are on the right track.

    I think it is time for you get started.

    Don't be frustrated if things don't work like you calculated or as easy as you expect.

    Just how things work out at times.
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    • Profile picture of the author MTVida
      I would suggest that you start out with just one at a time. Get one basic campaign running and work through any problems you encounter. You don't want to get overwhelmed by the process as first.

      Then once you get to the point of being able to set up campaigns easily, you can start split testing networks and offers and running multiple campaigns. Walk before you run
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      • Profile picture of the author Rob Irwin
        Originally Posted by MTVida View Post

        I would suggest that you start out with just one at a time. Get one basic campaign running and work through any problems you encounter. You don't want to get overwhelmed by the process as first.

        Then once you get to the point of being able to set up campaigns easily, you can start split testing networks and offers and running multiple campaigns. Walk before you run
        Very good advice here. Pick out an offer that is converting well, pick a search engine or site to buy traffic from, and work on making that one campaign profitable. You will learn a lot from doing this.

        7search is generally a good place to start and Peerfly has plenty of good offers, so you are on the right track.
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  • Profile picture of the author JP Sauve
    Hi Olen. Hopefully I can insipire you a little. I started online marketing in 1997 with the goal of $30 per month to pay for connection to the Net. Stick it out and success will come.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I think you can do it. No question about it because you believe in yourself. Some people want to earn money online but don't really think they can do it so good for you that you are a firm believer.

    When you start, there is a good chance that things will not work for you as planned. There is also a good chance that you will lose some money. Test things out and you will find what works best for you.

    Never give up on your $30 per day goal and you will reach it sooner then later.

    Let us know in the near future of your results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
    Never give up. If you are just starting out you might fail but you have to learn from your mistakes. $30 a day is achievable. Good Luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author Olen
      Thanks for all the comments. I put up another Peerfly campaign yesterday in 7search. I left it at .05 bids and just used their keyword research tool. It appears to be tracking correctly. I'll put up another one today.
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      • Profile picture of the author Olen
        I put up one campaign and when I checked the link, the offer page triggered my malware software. This is the first time this has happened out of 4 campaigns. Do you ignore this or is it a sign to just move on and get another offer?
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        • Profile picture of the author Silentkiller1
          You might be not in the targetted country the offer is allowed for. You are only getting redirected so you can avoid the malware notifications but still check the offer link with proxy.
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        • Profile picture of the author Greedy
          Originally Posted by Olen View Post

          I put up one campaign and when I checked the link, the offer page triggered my malware software. This is the first time this has happened out of 4 campaigns. Do you ignore this or is it a sign to just move on and get another offer?
          I'd message your AM about it and see what's up.

          Good thing you checked the link.
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          • Profile picture of the author Olen
            I went through hidemya$$ to check it and it still didn't work so I contacted the account rep and she said the campaign is active and probably experiencing a redirect. So not sure how this works probably best to move on...
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            • Profile picture of the author Olen
              I just noticed I had a conversion in one of the Peerfly campaigns by looking at the report page at Peerfly. This is not showing in my prosper202. Can anyone tell me what would be causing this?

              Thanks,

              UPDATE: I just noticed the global postback at Peerfly wasn't there anymore??? Not sure what happened. That must be the problem.
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        • Profile picture of the author bqpennell
          Originally Posted by Olen View Post

          I put up one campaign and when I checked the link, the offer page triggered my malware software. This is the first time this has happened out of 4 campaigns. Do you ignore this or is it a sign to just move on and get another offer?

          Get a different offer, a lot of download offers will trigger a virus scanner and if it triggers it for you it will for someone else, This will only make you look bad and hurt your over all goal of being successful
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  • Profile picture of the author MarketingJessie
    It can be done. I have a tracking system I can set you up with for FREE in the next few weeks that is better than prosper or any other ones on the market.

    Find your market that you want to dominate and go from there. Some FREEBIE stuff is a good start but its not going to last long term.

    Start doing something else like building a list and offering products on your backend.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Yeah stop fighting the offer and just drop it. Treat offers like disposable diapers.

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    • Profile picture of the author Olen
      That's good to know if something triggers virus. Just move on. I did, I have 5 up now on 7search and peerfly.

      I hear you MJ on the list and backend, it's just over my head right now. I would love to get $30 a day coming in every day first. Maybe it's the rookie way of looking at things but it's one more thing to learn with aweber, landing pages and writing converting emails and such. I will get there though.

      Thanks everyone for the encouragement!
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      • Profile picture of the author Olen
        Can someone tell me if this is normal as far as the numbers matching up, just so I know going forward. These are my stats from Sunday on 3 campaigns. None of these clicks are by me checking things.

        25 clicks in prosper202 (in account overview)
        11 uniques 24 raw at Peerfly
        23 clicks in 7search
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        • Profile picture of the author Greedy
          Originally Posted by Olen View Post

          Can someone tell me if this is normal as far as the numbers matching up, just so I know going forward. These are my stats from Sunday on 3 campaigns. None of these clicks are by me checking things.

          25 clicks in prosper202 (in account overview)
          11 uniques 24 raw at Peerfly
          23 clicks in 7search
          Are you using a landing page?
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          • Profile picture of the author Olen
            No this is direct linking
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            • Profile picture of the author Olen
              Ok, this has taken awhile but I got 7 campaigns in Peerfly and just launched one with Maxbounty. I can't tell if MB is tracking correctly yet but Pf appears to be tracking correctly in Prosper202.

              So my next question after reading a lot is how to go about making these fail fast or is there another approach to see what I got. They're all "downloads" at the moment so I guess I should focus on zip submits. I'm still trying to formulate a game plan here by getting more MB and NeverBlue going so I can rotate similar offers. Or should that be rotating offers within the same CPA company.

              Questions also,
              1. Where should the bidding start? I started everything at .01 to test things except when they wouldn't let me.
              2. How many impressions do I need on a keyword before I decide the ad is not working?
              3. And I'm aware of "angles" but really don't have one yet, I'm just putting in popular keywords from 7search and google keyword tools and running broad match.

              Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_icon
    Going back to your OP, I would say that you are on the right track. Although you are over-working your calculations. Most new people who start out online give up when they realise they have to work at it so having your mindset is putting you ahead of the curve to start with.

    Re how much you want to make etc etc. There is no set amount you have to spend to make xxx. Just remember you want to make more than you spend. Its sounds obvious but is all too true in CPA. Testing is the way to go. 7search is always a good place to start to make some quick cash and then you can move on to PPC/PPV etc etc

    If a campaign isnt returning a profit after say $5 (assuming your using 5c clicks thats 100 clicks remember) then something is wrong somewhere. Either the traffic quality is bad or you may be targetting the wrong people with the wrong offer etc.

    But it sounds like you have your screwed on and you know you have to work at it to get it to work so good luck.

    Re your clicks difference, its rare to get all 3 tallying up. Your network will scrub some off (although they say they dont do it lol) if the traffic quality isnt the best, ie not expected to make money for them.

    Remember if someone likes your ad they may click on it from 7search (who dont count duplicate clicks from the same IP), however they may bookmark and go back to it again later to fill it out. So in turn the person is visiting twice however 7search are only tracking 1 if you see what I mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author leliahawkins31
    believe in yourself, just be patience focus on your single work then you can proceed to multiple work as you succeed. perfect time and blessings will come to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fox30
    50% ROI is great, but a bit optimistic to start. I would estimate your RIO as conservative as possible, depending on your source of traffic, etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author Olen
      @the_icon

      """If a campaign isnt returning a profit after say $5 (assuming your using 5c clicks thats 100 clicks remember) then something is wrong somewhere. Either the traffic quality is bad or you may be targetting the wrong people with the wrong offer etc."""

      Didn't see this til just now. So basically this is let the campaign start all keywords at .05 and go for about $5 and see what you got? And then decide what ads need changing for the amount of impressions you have vs number of clicks "if any" or something else like 7search needs aff ID's blocked?
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      • Profile picture of the author Olen
        Hi,

        For an update I got 8 campaigns running for a total of 343 clicks and one conversion. Not sure what to show on here for analysis because prosper202 was showing a conversion on one that didn't happen so my numbers are skewed.
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        • Profile picture of the author Olen
          Maybe this will work, I downloaded the CSV files from the 3 networks so I could compile them together. According to 7search I've spent $12.76 for 286 clicks over this same time period.


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  • Profile picture of the author ab12
    Interesting very interesting
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