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Hello,

I have been doing affiliate marketing for sometime and recently added CPA offers + PPC marketing to my arsenal. I have been doing pretty well with this and would like some guidance on how to take it from $500 a month to $5000 a month. I dont expect this to happen over night, but to get some tips & hints on how to drive traffic, monitor, and the sales funnel if you will.

I would like to talk to someone that makes 6 figures a year using PPC advertising for CPA offers. I would like to see your process. I would appreciate it.

Thanks,
Justin
#coach #cpa #figure
  • Profile picture of the author Tuan Vy
    Hey Justin.

    The first thing is finding something that works on a small scale.

    Getting a campaign profitable.

    Then learning how to scale your campaign to other sources and generate
    more traffic and more leads.

    This involves having access to traffic sources and cash flow to do so, as well
    as having an offer that can take on that volume.

    There is not a huge amount of difference effort wise for a campaign to go from
    $500 to $5k/month , it's pretty much the same work.

    Test Small, then find what works, improve on that and grow it, in a nutshell.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
      So if I have a campaign in the diet niche that typically makes more than I spend on advertising how would I go about scaling it up?

      Using other PPC networks with the same keywords?
      Adding new kewords?

      Originally Posted by Tuan Vy View Post

      Hey Justin.

      The first thing is finding something that works on a small scale.

      Getting a campaign profitable.

      Then learning how to scale your campaign to other sources and generate
      more traffic and more leads.

      This involves having access to traffic sources and cash flow to do so, as well
      as having an offer that can take on that volume.

      There is not a huge amount of difference effort wise for a campaign to go from
      $500 to $5k/month , it's pretty much the same work.

      Test Small, then find what works, improve on that and grow it, in a nutshell.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tuan Vy
    Number of things that could create more profit for you.

    You get paid more per sale/lead with that offer
    You create more campaigns, more traffic and sales.
    You find other traffic sources and get more volume.
    You try other types of advertising instead of PPC, like Media Buying etc..

    It takes time and there is an art to scaling campaigns but with experience
    you will get better at it and have your own method to scaling fast.

    Just grow it everyday, but do so where your still profitable.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
      Thanks,

      Do you have any popular media buying sites that I can look into?

      Originally Posted by Tuan Vy View Post

      Number of things that could create more profit for you.

      You get paid more per sale/lead with that offer
      You create more campaigns, more traffic and sales.
      You find other traffic sources and get more volume.
      You try other types of advertising instead of PPC, like Media Buying etc..

      It takes time and there is an art to scaling campaigns but with experience
      you will get better at it and have your own method to scaling fast.

      Just grow it everyday, but do so where your still profitable.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    When you start building campaign look for an ad networks / campaigns that have good volume potential, and room to scale up.

    Take what you are already doing, and think of ways to grow it, and/or pitch it to a more broader angle.

    Build off what you are already successful at. Try not start something too new.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
      I don't intend to start something new. This morning I created 5 other campaigns in different niches to try that but otherwise using all the same techniques.

      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      When you start building campaign look for an ad networks / campaigns that have good volume potential, and room to scale up.

      Take what you are already doing, and think of ways to grow it, and/or pitch it to a more broader angle.

      Build off what you are already successful at. Try not start something too new.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    So if I have a campaign in the diet niche that typically makes more than I spend on advertising how would I go about scaling it up?

    Using other PPC networks with the same keywords?
    Adding new kewords?
    - Add More Keywords. Make sure they're big enough to get good volume from. Don't waste your time on smaller keywords.

    - Test broader PPC campaigns settings.

    - Test more ads / offers / LP. Always be pushing for better conversions rates. The optimized this is, the easier it can be to find successful keywords.

    - Before media buying, I would max out PPC. There will be 5k /mo volume there, unless it is 7Search. Which could be trickier.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
      So for example would it be best to have campaigns like this:

      Campaign 1 - 50 keywords niche specific with offer 1
      Campaign 2 - 50 keywords product specific with offer 1
      Campaign 3 - 50 keywords broad with offer 1

      then after a week change to offer 2 and compare?

      Also what is LP?


      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      - Add More Keywords. Make sure they're big enough to get good volume from. Don't waste your time on smaller keywords.

      - Test broader PPC campaigns settings.

      - Test more ads / offers / LP. Always be pushing for better conversions rates. The optimized this is, the easier it can be to find successful keywords.

      - Before media buying, I would max out PPC. There will be 5k /mo volume there, unless it is 7Search. Which could be trickier.
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      • Profile picture of the author Tuan Vy
        Originally Posted by jpsween88 View Post

        So for example would it be best to have campaigns like this:

        Campaign 1 - 50 keywords niche specific with offer 1
        Campaign 2 - 50 keywords product specific with offer 1
        Campaign 3 - 50 keywords broad with offer 1

        then after a week change to offer 2 and compare?

        Also what is LP?
        Don't split test a week at at time then test another week with something different, split test all at the same time, rotate 50% to each offer 50/50.

        Things convert differently at different times of days and throughout the month, you want accurate data by testing evenly day by day.

        LP stands for a Landing Page, which is exactly like it sounds, a page a visitor lands on before they click through to your offer.

        It's mainly used for pre selling and creating higher conversion rates on your offer.

        I highly suggest you get used to using a Landing Page versus Direct Linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    I have been using 7search to find keywords then moving those to bing & adwords is that a solid plan?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tuan Vy
    If your seeing success on a campaign or specific niche then
    really just focus on that, don't try to many other niches at one time.

    Doing so you won't get a real feel for that niche or understand the voice of
    that niche...if that makes sense.

    Whatever your traffic source your on now master it, see how u can get
    more traffic from it.

    If your doing PPC then of course scale out and try other platforms..

    Like if Google is working for you, then try BING etc..

    If your not familiar with Media Buying then you'll probably lose money initially.
    So for now see how you can scale on your current traffic source.

    If you raise your bid can you get more traffic? You may make slightly less
    but then again you might make up for it with volume.
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    • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
      Ok scratch media buying for now lol. Typically my ads are #3 in position and as mentioned above I start with 7 search to "test" keywords then move the ones that produce sales over to Bing & Google.

      With the campaign I am doing now, I feel adding keywords I would have to be very broad like "new ways to lose weight" or "lose weight fast" which seem so general so I've been hesitant to use those keywords

      Originally Posted by Tuan Vy View Post

      If your seeing success on a campaign or specific niche then
      really just focus on that, don't try to many other niches at one time.

      Doing so you won't get a real feel for that niche or understand the voice of
      that niche...if that makes sense.

      Whatever your traffic source your on now master it, see how u can get
      more traffic from it.

      If your doing PPC then of course scale out and try other platforms..

      Like if Google is working for you, then try BING etc..

      If your not familiar with Media Buying then you'll probably lose money initially.
      So for now see how you can scale on your current traffic source.

      If you raise your bid can you get more traffic? You may make slightly less
      but then again you might make up for it with volume.
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  • Profile picture of the author jpsween88
    Yes, one thing that I have been looking into is a WP plugin maybe that easily allows me to create squeeze pages so that I can start building a list to maximize efforts
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    • Profile picture of the author Greedy
      Originally Posted by jpsween88 View Post

      Yes, one thing that I have been looking into is a WP plugin maybe that easily allows me to create squeeze pages so that I can start building a list to maximize efforts
      All of Tuan's advice has been spot on.

      Regarding a WP plugin for squeeze pages that is bit overkill.

      You could easily get squeeze page template, and setup your auto-responder with it.

      Must simpler way of going about things.

      But I agree list building and brand building maybe something worth testing. Sometimes I doesn't raise your profits much initially (you may have to do some testing/tweaking), but in exchange you can gain lots of long term stability.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    Also what is LP?
    Just saw this...

    A LP is a landing page, a page that pitches or pre-sells your offer a bit. A good LP could easily double you profits.

    I also highly suggest testing some LPs before squeeze pages.

    Find a good LP is probably the fastest way I can see right now to raise your profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author zeroaffiliate
    This is like a 3 way conversation

    Don't mind if i butt in...
    Tuan And Greedy are giving great advice and that's what you should do. Before you go and create a landing page or moving to another traffic. Try to optimize the campaign to max potential before moving to another traffic source.

    LP are great, and like what greedy has mention, you can easily get LP templates cheaply. You can outsource to people in fiverr to create one for you.
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