[Case Study] Newbie tries to earn $$$ with Mobile CPA

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Because taking action is a thousand times better than only reading topics on the Warriorforum, I decided to dive into Mobile CPA without any real knowledge about it.

First of all, why did I start this thread?
- I want to meet people that are also doing Mobile CPA (maybe start a Skype group?).
- I'd really like to get feedback from you guys.
- To keep me motivated to have those $100+ days .

I started a few days ago with applying to CPA Networks and to Traffic Networks. Yesterday I was finally accepted to a CPA network and started my first campaign; a dating offer that pays $0.94 for filling in a form (Canada only).

I set my bid to $0.01 and my daily budget to $5.00. These are my results:



A few questions:


- How can the clicks on my Traffic Network differ from my CPA network?
- The tracking says only 10 clicks came out of Canada, what's the reason for this? (I use bit.ly as tracking system)
- Do you guys have some tips for me?

Thanks a lot. Really hope to make some money the next couple of months .
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    - How can the clicks on my Traffic Network differ from my CPA network?
    Server errors, tracking errors, landing page issues, ect. As long as it is under or around %5 difference, I don't worry about it too much.

    - The tracking says only 10 clicks came out of Canada, what's the reason for this? (I use bit.ly as tracking system)
    Geo-trageting isn't perfect so there is room for error.

    Don't use Bit.ly as a tracking system. Use Prosper202 or iMobitrax.

    You need to get the tracking right, because then you start investing your ad money into getting you data.

    - Do you guys have some tips for me?
    Test a lot of images. Read all you can on CPA and Mobile Traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      Server errors, tracking errors, landing page issues, ect. As long as it is under or around %5 difference, I don't worry about it too much.



      Geo-trageting isn't perfect so there is room for error.

      Don't use Bit.ly as a tracking system. Use Prosper202 or iMobitrax.

      You need to get the tracking right, because then you start investing your ad money into getting you data.



      Test a lot of images. Read all you can on CPA and Mobile Traffic.
      - I know it can differ a little bit, but 500 clicks, and 31 clicks? That's a big difference.

      - About tracking, I will try Prosper202.

      - The campagin I launched yesterday was a text add. I will try an image tomorrow .

      EDIT:

      I'm trying to use Prosper202, but I don't really understand how to add the SubId's.

      My affiliate link is as followed:

      aid=52967&linkid=B136421&subid=&subid2=&subid3=&su bid4=&subid5=

      Now, how should I add the [[Subid]], [[c1]] etc?

      Maybe like this?

      aid=52967&linkid=B136421&[[subid]]=&[[C1]]=&[[C2]]=&[[C3]]=&[[C4]]=

      Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author NeilMoran
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Lacer View Post

        - I know it can differ a little bit, but 500 clicks, and 31 clicks? That's a big difference.
        I'm trying mobile for cpa offers and have been using Buzzcity, one thing I noticed is that although I only want US/UK/AU/CA traffic I was getting quite a bit of traffic from Asia/Pacific Region.
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  • Profile picture of the author 100k
    Did you get any conversions from the 500 clicks?

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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
      Originally Posted by 100k View Post

      Did you get any conversions from the 500 clicks?
      I made 1 conversion, so that's $0.94.

      The problem is, I'm not really sure if people really land on the offer.
      I've used a proxy and I get redirected to all kinds of other things
      (win an iPhone etc.)

      My traffic source showed 500 clicks, my CPA network showed around
      30. So if only 30 people really saw the offer, and 1 converted, than I
      could have made around:

      500/30 x $0.94 = $15.67.

      If this is really the case, it would be a great RIO.

      I'm not sure if this is the case though.
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      • Profile picture of the author 100k
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Lacer View Post

        I made 1 conversion, so that's $0.94.

        The problem is, I'm not really sure if people really land on the offer.
        I've used a proxy and I get redirected to all kinds of other things
        (win an iPhone etc.)

        My traffic source showed 500 clicks, my CPA network showed around
        30. So if only 30 people really saw the offer, and 1 converted, than I
        could have made around:

        500/30 x $0.94 = $15.67.

        If this is really the case, it would be a great RIO.

        I'm not sure if this is the case though.

        Nice...

        You need to find out why you are such massive difference in tracking!

        Contact the network and talk to them, they might be able to help you figure it out.

        Other than that, get the conversion rate of the clicks up to 0.1 - 1 % then you will make some nice $$$$

        I think images will do better.
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        • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
          Originally Posted by 100k View Post

          Nice...

          You need to find out why you are such massive difference in tracking!

          Contact the network and talk to them, they might be able to help you figure it out.

          Other than that, get the conversion rate of the clicks up to 0.1 - 1 % then you will make some nice $$$$

          I think images will do better.
          Yeah I've contacted my CPA network and my Traffic network. For now I've only got a reply from the CPA network. They say I should contact the traffic network. I think the reply of the traffic network will be the same, and that I should contact the CPA network...

          I will try an image as soon as this is fixed. Thanks for the tip .

          Hope to solve this soon so I can make some money .
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  • Profile picture of the author thecyb
    1. $0.01 per click is pretty cheap so maybe that's the answer - traffic quality is not so good and have many bots.

    2. IP diversity in mobile traffic is very low sometimes, especially if visitors are from the same area. I had a situation before when 15 really unique devices shared a single IP and some trackers counted them as one unique visitor.
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  • Profile picture of the author expl0it8z
    what network are you using with your PPC?
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
      Originally Posted by thecyb View Post

      1. $0.01 per click is pretty cheap so maybe that's the answer - traffic quality is not so good and have many bots.

      2. IP diversity in mobile traffic is very low sometimes, especially if visitors are from the same area. I had a situation before when 15 really unique devices shared a single IP and some trackers counted them as one unique visitor.
      I have installed Prosper202 and yesterday I got 213 clicks, and it also shows 213. The problem is, only 100 are unique clicks. And I think 90% is done with a Blackberry, isn't that strange? I've selected a lot more devices than only Blackberry.

      Originally Posted by expl0it8z View Post

      what network are you using with your PPC?
      I use BuzzCity.

      I still have Ads Balance left so I will keep trying, this time with an other offer. It could be that the offer is the problem.

      Keep you guys updated .

      Jeremy.
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      • Profile picture of the author flinserl
        Originally Posted by Jeremy Lacer View Post

        I have installed Prosper202 and yesterday I got 213 clicks, and it also shows 213. The problem is, only 100 are unique clicks. And I think 90% is done with a Blackberry, isn't that strange? I've selected a lot more devices than only Blackberry.
        Hi Jeremy,

        The reason you're getting 90% BB is because RIM is located in Canada! Believe it or not: BB's are more popular up there than iPhones or Androids! Go check for yourself through BuzzCity's Campaignplanner: As of today BB's are at ~50%, followed by iPhones with ~26%, and then Androids with ~8% (!).

        That's why you're getting so many BB's in your stats! Pls notice: BB users are mainly business folks, whereas iPhones/Androids are for Youth/kids, "cool people" and pretty much everyone else

        Keep that in mind when targeting, or you're wasting money!

        Also: Banners on BB's will be tiny! I just checked, and according to BuzzCity's stats most BB's used are the "older" ones with the screen only half the size of the phone!

        If your campaign allows it, you might want to consider choosing text ads over images. Choose an ugly, slime-green over magenta or so, and people will notice even on a tiny screen

        Hope, that makes sense?!?!
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnDS
    Jeremy, PM me your Skype.

    I've also started to invest big time in Mobile CPA. We can help each other, Skype group is a great idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jeremy Lacer
      Originally Posted by JohnDS View Post

      Jeremy, PM me your Skype.

      I've also started to invest big time in Mobile CPA. We can help each other, Skype group is a great idea.
      Great John! I've sent an PM back.

      I've applied to other networks because my current network has a small amount of Mobile Offers.
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      • Profile picture of the author jayfluff
        Just started hammering mobile myself i like airpush and had ok luck so far and as far as tracking look into ad-x
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        • Profile picture of the author slasz
          wanna join group also, i just do it last month and got some stat as attach
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          • Profile picture of the author affiliaterocks
            Originally Posted by slasz View Post

            wanna join group also, i just do it last month and got some stat as attach

            Congrats on your earnings Maybe, you want to share of what
            you have been doing on your campaign....thanks!

            Be Bless,
            Julius
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          • Profile picture of the author IhaveAdream
            Originally Posted by slasz View Post

            wanna join group also, i just do it last month and got some stat as attach
            Great CR there, what kind of offer and which CPA network are you using?
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  • Profile picture of the author DavidAtias1
    Originally Posted by Jeremy Lacer View Post

    Because taking action is a thousand times better than only reading topics on the Warriorforum, I decided to dive into Mobile CPA without any real knowledge about it.

    First of all, why did I start this thread?
    - I want to meet people that are also doing Mobile CPA (maybe start a Skype group?).
    - I'd really like to get feedback from you guys.
    - To keep me motivated to have those $100+ days .

    I started a few days ago with applying to CPA Networks and to Traffic Networks. Yesterday I was finally accepted to a CPA network and started my first campaign; a dating offer that pays $0.94 for filling in a form (Canada only).

    I set my bid to $0.01 and my daily budget to $5.00. These are my results:



    A few questions:


    - How can the clicks on my Traffic Network differ from my CPA network?
    - The tracking says only 10 clicks came out of Canada, what's the reason for this? (I use bit.ly as tracking system)
    - Do you guys have some tips for me?

    Thanks a lot. Really hope to make some money the next couple of months .
    Hi,

    You made the right decision to start Mobile and CPA.
    I'm doing mobile for 6 month now.

    - How can the clicks on my Traffic Network differ from my CPA network?
    Mobile has no advanced tracking tools, so, there are a lot of non matching details between networks..
    But it's ok, it's always like this.

    - The tracking says only 10 clicks came out of Canada, what's the reason for this? (I use bit.ly as tracking system)
    I'm really dont know what is the problem, but for mobile i'm not recommend to use advanced tracking systems like Prosper202 or something like this...
    Most of the Mobile CPA networks have build in tracking system, for example in my CPA network - MobPartner.

    - Do you guys have some tips for me?
    My only tip for you is to split and split and split...
    Split testing will take you from loose money to earn money..

    What CPA network you use?
    What advertising network you use?

    Cheers,
    David
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  • Profile picture of the author dosapati
    Keep us posted Laser..
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  • Profile picture of the author rmiller420
    Hey David,
    I am with mobpartner but I am not getting the parameters that I want to track. For example I want get the Ip or the country of the click. Can you tell me how to do it ? I am using callback url configuration.

    I entered my Buzzcity id and hashtag to generate the callback url and pasted in the leftside box in mobpartner. Which option do I need to choose out of these two ?

    Server2Server or Pixel ?
    Server2Server (HTTP GET)
    Server2Server (HTTP POST)

    Also Jeremy would like to join the skype group can you let me in? In b/w I made my first conversion $14 spent $16 So far.. It would be great if somebody helps out with tracking
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  • Profile picture of the author CpvTrafficPro
    Thanks for the share, I havent dabbled into mobile yet
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Hi guys, also giving mobile cpa a try.
    Just started a campaign, will let you know the details.
    Did the skype group start, if yes, can I be a part of the group ?
    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author mashe
    Hey! I also started with Mobile CPA and PPC. I'm using BuzzCity and MobPartner. I'm in a period of split and split and split. At the moment I have 4 campaigns with 5$ daily budget good targeted to get the most quantity of clicks/conversions.

    I'm trying with CPI offers, but I also watch a CPS offer that could have some conversions.. I'm interested in the mobile cpa group, would I enter it?

    Drop me a MP if you want to create a new one with your skype or whatever you use to chat
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  • Profile picture of the author Nuutero
    I recently started mobile CPA too. I'm using Buzz City to drive traffic and waiting to get approved to MobPartner. I can't wait to start working with them, they have some epic offers. I am interested in joining a Skype group, message me if you ever decide to organize one.
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  • Profile picture of the author WillyS
    Hi Jeremy,

    I'm motivated by your results!

    I'm totally clueless about mobile CPA.

    Can you point me in the right direction how to get started?

    Thanks!
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