This is what ACTUALLY happens with our PaYDAY loan Leads! A huge turnoff :(

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Hey there,

I am new to CPA thing but not a complete newbie, I was curious and looking around to know how the structure works and what is the system etc.. I found this guy who was doing pretty cool with Payday loan leads, I got connected with him and asked him today to elaborate how the process works,

Now he's doing Payday campaign really good and netting atleast $30k /mo, you know what the first thing he said? "It's a scam!!!!"

The basic structure goes like this, we set up a campaign and test/track and optimize everything as an affiliate, CPA networks sell the leads to the bigger fish and you know how down this economy is and how almost all the people are looking for financial help and credit and everything,

They call these leads up from their centers located offshore (So they can't be tracked back!) or contact them with any other form and say they are pre-qualified for what ever amount they clicked while filling up the form and those people looking for hope and finance gets out of control and jump from their sofa, then what they say to these people is: To process the loan and get you the money that you are seeking, you'd have to pay (token amount/processing fees/ or any other fancy word), and we can process your application and get you your money asap!

Now they take $250 - $500 with these loan-seeking people and that's their earning! That's what they pretty much do! There's no money-lendering agency in the back ground, no people get their loan as promised even after having paid the token amount, they take the money and "adios" it is!

This is what happens behind the scene folks, I even asked another dude who is running an off-shore call center which pretty much does the same process, the only difference is, they fill out leads online from their ends, but the process is the same!

Now, many or most of the affiliates may not about this dark world in the back ground! But Ultimately we are the one who initiates the freaking process for them


It's a huuuuge turn off to know those all people hopefully looking for money gets to pay money to these merchants to scam them!

It's been a while, I have known how those Diet pill and other trial offer works but this payday loan thing was an epic turnoff for sure!

I don't know if dating sector is any good or not, I don't know now if there is "active thousands of members" on their network that our "Victim" can meet or these merchants just take money and fly away!

Just wanted to pass the wold to you all, I still hope this is not how everything rolls

Peace


(P.S: Please write down about the legit companies that you know who are really providing the value and sought-after loans to the folks, please write down the name of the companies, if you know abt it)
#huge #leads #loan #payday #turnoff
  • Profile picture of the author IhaveAdream
    Feeling the same here.

    The more we learn about these industries, the darker it gets.
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  • Profile picture of the author PPC-Coach
    Uh.

    What about the legit loan companies?

    This post is the beauty of the internet. If it's posted, it's true. I'm sure there are scammers out there, (there are in every business in the world), but you're painting a negative picture with a very large stroke of the brush.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mysterious Dave
      Originally Posted by PPC-Coach View Post

      Uh.

      What about the legit loan companies?

      This post is the beauty of the internet. If it's posted, it's true. I'm sure there are scamers out there, (there are in every business in the world), but you're painting a negative picture with a very large stroke of the brush.


      PPC Coach, As I said in the thread, I desperately wish I am the one who is completely wrong here, I really do.

      Anything I said in the thread about the "System" is completely based on the startling reply I get from the person who is working on it for years from now. I have just written the dark site about affiliates and these Payday leads, trust me, you'd be literally knocked out when I'll tell you what and how payday loans leads are processed and generated at off-shores in the call centers.

      Again, I am really rooting for me to be wrong and I still believe there would be companies out there who wont be running these scams. Just asking if you know any decent companies that actually processes the loan and end-user gets the fund he desires...
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      • Profile picture of the author kendido
        This is really sad in many ways. On the side of we the affiliates, we are part of the culprits as we originate the thread of duping unknowingly. On the other side, people who are down to their last dollars are being wiped clean. Then the so called Payday loan companies are even worse than the Nigerian scams. The question is: Are tehre really legitimate ways of making honest income?
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        • Profile picture of the author Mysterious Dave
          Originally Posted by kendido View Post

          This is really sad in many ways. On the side of we the affiliates, we are part of the culprits as we originate the thread of duping unknowingly. On the other side, people who are down to their last dollars are being wiped clean. Then the so called Payday loan companies are even worse than the Nigerian scams. The question is: Are tehre really legitimate ways of making honest income?
          Exactly, you got it,

          Not only I feel bad for all those affiliates who obliviously help them start the process and hand over the leads, but the most pathetic condition would be of an end user, I mean can you even imagine those who are left with handful of money and are desperately looking to just get through the month, and then comes these companies with their "Pre-approved, upto $10,000 payday loan offer" and charge them their last back, the process doesn't stop here, even after paying so called "Token Charge" the end user doesn't ever here back from these companies, they are left with full of hopes that they would get their loan for sure since they were pre-approved and they even paid for token money for the loan

          Still I am looking for someone to read the thread and post the reply with the name of the legit and decent companies who don't just get the money and fly!
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  • Profile picture of the author GimmeTheLoot
    Anyone here ever use Blue Global Media for pay day loan offer?
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  • Profile picture of the author Greedy
    The question is: Are tehre really legitimate ways of making honest income?
    Of course you can!

    Pay Day Loans are banned in a lot of states. More are being added all the time.

    There are some offers in CPA that people may feel are unethical.

    When I personally feel that way about an offer, I just don't promote it. That is all you really can do.
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    • Profile picture of the author vask
      Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

      When I personally feel that way about an offer, I just don't promote it. That is all you really can do.
      Greedy says it perfectly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mysterious Dave
        Originally Posted by Greedy View Post

        When I personally feel that way about an offer, I just don't promote it. That is all you really can do.
        Originally Posted by viasq View Post

        Greedy says it perfectly.

        Of course not promoting the offer is all we can do, just wanted to come here and wanted to know if any of you guys know abt legit company for payday that doesn't take victims to the ride of hell.

        I just didn't want to be biased on the reply of 3-4 individuals active in this field and thought would come here and ask you guys if that's the scene for this niche
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  • Profile picture of the author DaveWarrior
    I have no plans of entering this niche for this reason. At best, these companies would offer loans at exorbitant rates not really helping anybody. There are other niches such as dating where I feel it's a bit sketchy, but more of a lesson learned for the sucker who buys.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrPete2000
    It's a double edged sword... wherever there is money to be made, you'll get all kinds of people wanting a piece of the pie.

    I've been involved in IM/Aff Marketing for a long time and like to think that it's not all bad, that we are genuinely helping to connect consumers to merchants and collecting a percentage for our honest service.

    But, sometimes you hear/read about stories like: this Verge article (it seems a little too larger than life to be totally true, but you get the idea)

    Overall, I think the industry is legit and there are a lot of good affiliates and honest merchants out there just leveraging each others' skills and resources to reach new customers.

    (at least I hope so)
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  • Profile picture of the author Jetmir
    Anyway, there are hundreds of honest people(merchants, affiliates) who appreciate honest work just like there are hundreds of people who think nothing but scamming.
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