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Questions Regarding Email/Zip Submits

by Monthy
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Hi folks,

I have some questions today concerning email/zip submits:

1. When promoting an offer of this type, do I get paid really after an email or zip code is submitted on the submit page? I opened a bunch of preview landing pages of the offers I'd like to promote (I am with PeerFly) and tried to put in my own email address and see what would happen and in all cases I ended up on another page where I was prompted to fill in more information (my first and last name, my cell phone number, etc.). So, do I really get paid when the email is submitted already or when all of the boxes in the entire chain of pages has been filled out?

2. What I've also seen pop up after submitting an email address was a content-locker which required me to fill out some additional CPA offers to finally claim the free give-away that the primary offer was pitching. Isn't this shady/unethical? I think the person who visits the email submit site should get they landed there for right after submitting the email, am I wrong?

3. How does the advertiser who runs an email submit offer make money? Do they blast email newsletter series at their subscribers and make money promoting someone else's product or their own? In the case mentioned in question 1 (when the advertiser also requires physical address and cell phone), do they also send tangible mail to their prospect? What is the standard scenario?

Monthy
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  • Profile picture of the author x64

    1. When promoting an offer of this type, do I get paid really after an email or zip code is submitted on the submit page? I opened a bunch of preview landing pages of the offers I'd like to promote (I am with PeerFly) and tried to put in my own email address and see what would happen and in all cases I ended up on another page where I was prompted to fill in more information (my first and last name, my cell phone number, etc.). So, do I really get paid when the email is submitted already or when all of the boxes in the entire chain of pages has been filled out?
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  • Profile picture of the author salmansafder
    Ask AM. They will surely assist you in this matter.
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    • Profile picture of the author Monthy
      Originally Posted by salmansafder View Post

      Ask AM. They will surely assist you in this matter.
      Not so sure...
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  • Profile picture of the author vask
    Yes, for email and zip submits you just need the visitor to input those fields to get paid. Scrubbing is also a rampant issue within those types of offers.

    Imo, email submit offers are unethical within itself - but I do a lot with rebills so it would be pretty hypocritical of me to be talking about the ethics of these offers.

    Email submit offers make money by driving traffic through their co-registration path where they monetize you in various ways, including email marketing.

    The first page is the email submit page. It's the easiest page to get to convert. Then in an attempt to add more value to the email, they will ask for your name, address, and phone number.

    Then they ask you a series of questions in an attempt to qualify your lead so that they know what types of offers and products to market to you.

    They'll ask questions like "Do you own a home?" - and if you reply "Yes" then you will be sent products related to owning a home, such as mortgage or insurance offers. They also will sell your email and information to companies according to what you answer.

    After that, the user is then shown some CPA offers to fill out which they can usually "skip" - which will finally bring you to a content locker.

    If the user gets past the content locker - they are then bombarded with more offers and things to sign up for or buy.

    It goes a lot deeper than what I've explained in this post - but that's the gist of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizoppmaster
    I have worked with submit advertisers before and seen their backends. They scrub on average 50-90% and will just turn up the scrub rate to make the traffic back out for them.

    I wouldn't waste your time with submits unless you have really good quality traffic that will keep the scrub rate low and keep you on the offer for a decent amount of time.
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  • Profile picture of the author bob33229
    Email submits are waste of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisBa
    Originally Posted by Monthy View Post

    Hi folks,

    I have some questions today concerning email/zip submits:

    1. When promoting an offer of this type, do I get paid really after an email or zip code is submitted on the submit page? I opened a bunch of preview landing pages of the offers I'd like to promote (I am with PeerFly) and tried to put in my own email address and see what would happen and in all cases I ended up on another page where I was prompted to fill in more information (my first and last name, my cell phone number, etc.). So, do I really get paid when the email is submitted already or when all of the boxes in the entire chain of pages has been filled out?

    2. What I've also seen pop up after submitting an email address was a content-locker which required me to fill out some additional CPA offers to finally claim the free give-away that the primary offer was pitching. Isn't this shady/unethical? I think the person who visits the email submit site should get they landed there for right after submitting the email, am I wrong?

    3. How does the advertiser who runs an email submit offer make money? Do they blast email newsletter series at their subscribers and make money promoting someone else's product or their own? In the case mentioned in question 1 (when the advertiser also requires physical address and cell phone), do they also send tangible mail to their prospect? What is the standard scenario?

    Monthy
    It looks like most of your questions have been answered, just my two cents about email submits. They have a very high scrub/shave rate, they often aren't a good long term solution. I only recommend using them if you are getting started and want a way to learn the industry and promoting CPA offers on a low budget, but I recommend moving on to ther offers ASAP.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monthy
    Thanks guys for your replies. Very appreciated. Vask put an especially good response. Thanks a bunch!

    I have more questions, though:

    1. Is it predictable what scrub/shave rates I'm going to see with my traffic?

    2. What's even the difference between scrubbing and shaving? I think scrubbing is not getting paid for the lead because it turns out invalid. Is this correct? If so, what is shaving then?

    3. I guess if I really am to send my traffic to an opt-in or squeeze page, I should at least do so for my own benefit. What I mean is, build a list myself instead of sending the traffic to a third-party opt-in page. Do you agree and do you do this actively?

    Monthy
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    • Profile picture of the author vask
      Originally Posted by Monthy View Post

      Thanks guys for your replies. Very appreciated. Vask put an especially good response. Thanks a bunch!

      I have more questions, though:

      1. Is it predictable what scrub/shave rates I'm going to see with my traffic?

      2. What's even the difference between scrubbing and shaving? I think scrubbing is not getting paid for the lead because it turns out invalid. Is this correct? If so, what is shaving then?

      3. I guess if I really am to send my traffic to an opt-in or squeeze page, I should at least do so for my own benefit. What I mean is, build a list myself instead of sending the traffic to a third-party opt-in page. Do you agree and do you do this actively?

      Monthy

      1. Your scrub rates depends on the advertiser's greed and your traffic quality. If you give them good quality traffic, they'll probably shave you less. There's no actual way to find out for sure though. Like what bizoppmaster said above, "will just turn up the scrub rate to make the traffic back out for them."

      2. Scrubbing and shaving are the same thing.

      3. Building a list is something I wish I did when I first started out. With proper list management, you can make money off your list forever. With that said, I don't build a list for every single campaign. It depends on the type of campaign I want to run. If I'm running a dating campaign, I'm most likely just linking to the offer, but if I were to run a health or financial campaign, I'd probably build a list. Campaigns come and go, but a list is forever.
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