market leverage has some offers that accept ppv traffic.

i just started with media traffic so i don't have much to report on. so far i'm liking clicksor. their interface is easy to use and i get the full page pop up.

John, I had best experience with another smaller CPV network. And EWA accepts all kind of paid method traffic. Just contact RyanEagle on WF about it.

With the kind of experience you're having, I am almost sure that you would be accepted in a blink

Hope that helps.

Leiva,

Doesn't traffic Vance have a $1,000 min to start?

Have you got a a good ROI from there traffic?

Barry

thanks for your input.

i'm getting traffic, i'm just not getting clicks. i'm thinking that "free trial" offers may convert better so my next campaign will be one of those. i'll let it run for a week and see how that goes.

hmm, maybe their traffic is garbage after all.

Are you having any luck?

What type of offer(s) are you testing?

Are you testing more than one offer? Rotating offers?

Regards,

John

Definitely give LeadImpact a try. We are constantly getting more and more users/audience for you guys. We are currently working on making some improvements to the website, including better reporting, but would like to hear what you guys want.

One thing that we notice is that people tend to use the same keyword lists amongst all of their marketing practices, but PPV/CPV is so much different. You need to be specific with your words, but also don't need to load up every single variation out there. Contact the LeadImpact Account Specialist for questions on your accounts.

I mentioned this in another post, but we are trying to get more active on these types of forums, so if you have any PPV/CPV questions fire away.

Just in reading these forums I haven't seen favorable reviews for Clicksor. Have you given LeadImpact a try yet?

STOP! Unless you are willing to waste a lot of money testing.

True that it is the fastest way to test it is also the most expensive way. If you are going to test using that tactic, then at least rotate 3-5 offers to improve your chances. And absolutely track everything!

Always remember that proper targeting is the key. Think "relevance" (as I state quite often).

Regards,

John

We have seen this trend with new advertisers to our system and to be honest that is too many keywords. Often times that many keywords just involves every single variation of the same thing which is somewhat useless given that our keyword technology will work off the shortest match. So even if you have something like:

example.com
example%20com
Example*com
example+com

The keyword "example" would trigger off all of these URL's.

Another issue with that many keywords is the overall campaign cap constraint becomes a hindrance to the delivery of the traffic. Let's say you have 9000+ campaigns, but a cap of $10 per day. Of those 9000+ keywords, it's highly likely that only 10-20 of them are even getting traffic, because honestly the other ones are too specific and will NEVER get traffic. You will have a reporting nightmare sifting through those words to figure out what is working.

We have seen this method from common PPC methods where casting a wide net makes sense, but with PPV it's the opposite. You should start with your most targeted keywords and then start venturing out into more general terms. Your traffic will be lower, but your conversion rate should be higher.

Also, as a side note with Neverblue, don't enable keyword passthrough in our system. The way it appends to the url actually breaks the link.

good luck and happy to have you as a new advertiser!

what are you guys using to rotate offers?
do you have a full blown script or is it just a snippet of php code?

I use Prosper202 which is self-hosted. If you don't want to host, then use tracking202.

Also, in NeverBlue, you can place/edit/delete your own tracking code(s).

RE: Where To Start - begin with a group of 30 targets (50 maximum). Start your research by working backwards from the offer you want to promote. Use Alexa, Quantcast, and Compete to look at the sites feeding the most traffic to the offer. Look at the other sites that are similar to those feeder sites (visitor affinity). Look at the demographics of the visitors for all of the sites - feeders and affinity sites. Use that info to your advantage.

Regards,

John

Yes, that is all you need to do on your end. I would definitely start with a smaller amount of targets and utilize the conversion tracking report to see what keywords are leading to conversions. Once you do this you will know the individual profitability of keywords and can bid up accordingly.

No, our pop overs come from opening a brand new IE browser session, so this is completely separate from tab opening.

I am not sure that any PPV network offers that, but I may be mistaken. Any particular reason you are looking for that type of pop?

Completely agree here...too often people associate adware with spyware. They are two completely different things. LeadImpact is an adware network as well. Our install/uninstall process is completely transparent and the user knows exactly what they are getting when joining our network of users.

getting about the same results for quiz campaign, 1500 views no conversions, highly targeted, 30-50 domains

either im way off on my targeting or something else is wrong here.

& im not sure why offer rotation is prohibited?

PM me your account and we'll take a look and send you some suggestions.

The technology of Zango was purchased and is now being operated as LeadImpact.

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The normal turnaround for kw/campaign approval is one business day, but we have recently had an influx of keywords in the queue which may delay that a day or two. Mondays are the most busy days as we are catching up from the weekend. If you are experiencing a longer than expected delay please don't hesitate to email us

Not sure why they recommended $2K for success, but I can understand the concept of having a number that you are willing to invest in. A $25 minimum definitely doesn't give you the data needed to see if things are successful. At LeadImpact the minimum is $200 to start, but with any business venture I think you need to be willing to invest and spend to figure out what is working. I cannot give you an exact number as it will vary between people/business types.

Regardless of how much you spend track all of your results. You need to know what works for you and focus your spend there. Spend money on whats working and stop wasting money on what's not working!

if someone suggested i put 2k into my account i would run - unless of course
what you are offering is VERY HIGH TICKET and HIGH DEMAND
i would say that the acc manager was looking to feed off you rather than give you
solid advice

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im curently testing my 200$ now, so we shall see what happens. i couldnt see how it could be worse then media traffic, i was informed that MT has the junkiest traffic around, thoughts?

what other traffic sources are working for you?

It's actually normal for the good CPV companies to pay up front, traffic seems to convert differently with all of them, what other CPV companies were you working with?

Sorry the traffic didn't convert for you. PM me your account and I can look into it.

When you say, "converts well with other traffic"...were these other PPV traffic sources or a completely different traffic source?

The $200 up front goes directly to the traffic that is delivered to you. At anytime you can get a refund of your unused funds (normally within 1 business day). I guarantee our refund policy and process is MUCH better than the other PPV networks out there.

Got it, just replied

For anybody that is trying to PM us, we just upgraded to War Room Member, so we can now PM with everyone.

Thanks!

The system will not accept keywords longer than 4 words. I assume that was the issue, but I'll get back to you on PM.

Only if your NeverBlue AM removed the tracking pixel from their system.

lol finally someone mentions this.... don't get me wrong, PPV can be very lucrative and when you find a few converting pockets you can get an amazing amount of traffic, but gurus always talk like it's the cheapest traffic source around. $10 CPM is not cheap, and that's without getting into bidding wars. You can get cheaper CPMs on ppc, fb, pof, and even major magazine sites that deal almost exclusively with branders. That's not even mentioning the countless other tier 2 traffic sources out there.

That said, it is tough to compare a leaderboard or 300 x 250 banner with a pop-up that completely interrupts the user. Utilized correctly, that pop up is extremely powerful as you have a chance to fully divert someone's attention, whereas many have banner blindness.

The argument and bonus for PPV of course is it's lower barrier to entry and slack rules. Plus since you can take a url based approach to targeting, it can give you good targets to approach on direct buys later.

Also keep in mind, contextual popup traffic isn't the only traffic these PPV networks have, ask them about the rest of their inventory, you can many times get into it with a lower barrier of entry as well.

If you are paying $0.001 per view, you are paying $1 CPM, not $10 CPM, but I see where you are going with this train of thought. Banners are cheaper and they are cheaper for a reason. Like most things prices are driven by the market. Banner ads may be cheaper, but often times you are dealing with Run of Site/Network targeting at best.

With PPV you get keyword targeting, which allows you to narrow down a targeted audience. PPV also delivers the user directly to your website. At best with banners you can buy in a certain vertical and demographics, but you are still shot-gunning the impressions.

I am not saying that PPV is the only way to go, but just showing you the reason why PPV can be useful in your marketing arsenal.

I just emailed you the error screen we were seeing from our offices, it was a server "Bad Request" error. Someone else in the office was able to see the ad so your keywords and ad have been approved.

Yeah , P202 works very well with LeadImpact and other CPV networks.
Be sure to track the keywords that bring you conversions , so later you can remove the bad performing ones and turn a positive ROI.

There are some good videos on p202 site that show how to set it up.

Also , the fact that you got 1 conversion is a good sign ,so try tweaking a bit more your campaign.

Bobby, I hope that this helps you.

First...keywords DO NOT provide the best targeting when marketing through the PPV channel, urls are the BEST way to go when your looking for conversions rather than volume of traffic.

Second...if conversions are your #1 focus (it should be.) it is better to with less keyords/url's. It is better to scale up and make money, than to scale down and lose money.

Being new and if you are on a limited TESTING budget, you WILL want to start with 50-250 SNIPER TARGETED URLS FIRST. Track and monitor getting rid of the ones that are not converting for you, as you are adding more TARGETED ULRS.

Bobby, there are school of thought which differ on the process which I just gave you above. I personally believe that it is per situation. A marketer MUST make the wises decision for themselves.

Seasoned + Deep Pockets = MASS LOAD of KEYWORDS and URLS...

New+ Limited TESTING Budget = LOW NUMBER of ULRS...URLS...URLS...

I hope this helps you Bobby!

To your Success!

saw your other post and think it's pretty much covered there, for help with lead impact just speak with them on here, they have an active user account and seem to be very friendly and helpful, for mediatraffic just apply and they will contact you (or you can call them)

Is there any chance that we can do tracking with blogspot?

We are looking to add that option in the near future.

Too many scammers on paypal and if you do not sell a physical product and even if you do it is so easy for a buyer to get a charge back on you.

There is a large majority of scammers. They will buy products that include no shipping info and they are just about guaranteed a refund.

I think you need to try others ppv advertise networks like poponclick.com
They pay for popunders impressions so if you have good traffic then you will get profits for sure

I agree with skygod about long waiting for the keywords to be approved. Nevertheless, I get most of my conversions from leadimpact. Others are just eating my money

I've been really disappointed with LeadImpact of late. Couple things I've seen-

1) 4 days or so to approve any campaign/changes or reply to emails

2) No account manager assigned to my account- not sure if this is normal, but I thought we got assigned someone

3) Set a daily budget for a campaign, got charged more than that amount for the day's traffic on at least a couple occasions

4) I have a campaign that registers about 3200 impressions YTD on the CPA side, but I've been charged for about 3600

5) I had an offer I was DLing to that was approved. I added some keywords and they were refused because the LP had an "exit pop"... I've never been able to recreate this in IE, Firefox, or Chrome. I sent an email requesting clarification and noting that the LP had already been approved *and also suspended the campaign so as not to run afoul of their TOS*. Several days later, I got an email back just saying that there's a pop-up when you close the page (not really clarification) and that they shut down the other keys that they'd previously approved as well (only after I pointed it out, AND I had already deactivated the campaign).

I am not sure why, but it seems like the quality of service with LI has really gone down in the last month or two. Started out ok, but i've been really disappoitned lately. Is anyone else seeing this?

Hey, I'm new to Lead Impact. I had a question about url bidding. Can you target specific page or only the main domain?

I'm new to CPA, but not to internet marketing.

Just started using Lead Impact with Horrible Results! But I set my daily limits at $10-$20 so I cut them off fast!

I spent $20 to make $2.25

I have spent another $15 on very targeted traffic and either I get no traffic (even after optimization to be in the top 2) or when I go with a large list that is still targeted I get traffic that does not convert hense the additional $15. And I'm using very targeted keywords direct linking to offers my AM have told me are converting 12%-40% On a variety of different offers in different niches.

I have also tested targeted domain type-in traffic as I own a lot of domains as well and got zip! The only CPA offer I got to convert at about $20% was to my list with a personal recommendation. That made me a whopping $25!

How people are making $1000 a day I not sure.

I get the process...

1.Find a good offer that AM says is converting. CHECK
2.Build targeted keyword list. CHECK
3.Send PPV Traffic with Keyword Tracking CHECK.
4. Weed out the bad keywords but in this case it seems to be ALL OF THEM!
5. Ramp up the good KEYWORDS that convert.
6. Repeat processes 3-5 at alternate traffic sources.

Did I miss something? Is is Direct linking just a total joke and not the way to go at all! I have found direct linking not to work before in other "Adult" ventures yet the same traffic send though my landing page converted really well.

Any suggestions?

Sorry to hear that our network didn't work out for you. For the campaigns you were running, did you have keyword level tracking? It sounds like you did have some conversions. If you knew the words that are converting you can turn off all the other ones.

if people have used their services - they are entitled to judge as crap - this does not mean it necessarily had anything to do with their marketing skill, personally i would tend to listen to the buyer of a service rather than the seller of a service - who obviously will tell you they provide great service blah blah bah

LI allows audio and video.

My only complaint about leadimpact is the amount of time they take to approve keywords. I regularly find that it takes at least 3-4 days. Why is this? Other networks do it in 24 hours.